@@jonnysoto718 those tethers are sitting in that shop laughing while a blue eyed devil calls us Nrs.... Black Americans and Black Carribeans are not brothers.... thasa fact
Can somebody explain to me, why Black people from here taking pride in their culture and accomplishments are racists, but puerto ricans, dominicans, and jamaicans and people from various other islands showing their flags and being proud of their culture isn't racist?
Exactly. All these other races/nationalities hate seeing FBA's take credit and be proud of our creations/accomplishments. FBA's have the most accomplishments, so if anybody should be proud and happy, then it should definitely be us.
@@DominicanAndCivilizedHow many times have we had to hear tethers and foreigners tell us we have no culture? Isn't that talking crazy? So that's where the attitude comes from. We're returning that energy. Tethers come over here and get a little footing and they start looking down on FBA. We're not with that and we're going to check it every time... because none of them would be over here if it wasn't for us. They wouldn't be able to get rich if it wasn't for FBA.
If they don't know what FBA is then they're going to know now. We are 43 million strong in this country non-immigrants descendants of American black slaves. Unsubscribe to this ignorant bullshit ASAP.
Oh you just gonna act like Lord Jamar didn't have Ruby D on his show, him and his mans were the first Puerto ricans in Hiphop and they said there were no Puerto ricans in Hiphop before that and that was in 76. Ask yourself why is he so mad to admit Blacks invented hiphop and everybody else contributed to it 🤔. His own man smooth the engineer said Joe said racist slurs about blacks!
Not only that Lord Jamar and DJ Phase (who was there from the beginning). Challenged Fat Joe, Busta, Krs, and any latino and African/Jamaican etc to a debate live. None of them took the challenge and were all quiet. Crazy Legs talking about wanting to fight Lord Jamar instead of debating. They know damn well what they are saying is bullshit. There own latinos Charley Chase & Ruby Dee admitted it came from American blacks!
Joe sound corny and bitter he know good and damn well they didn't create shit and Math is even more corny for co-signing this nonsense. FBA creation that you are allowed to participate in. Never forget you are a guest and you starting to wear out your welcome. You too can be evicted ✌🏾
@@ST-wj1hqthere is no fba, that is some online nonsense started by Yvette Carnell and hijacked by Tariq nasheed. African American/ Afro Caribbean is the same . Always has been always will be.
I got to go out and defend Lord Jamar. He has had some of the earliest Puerto Ricans in the game come out to validate his claim. He also never discredited the Puerto Rican contribution in the early days of hip hop. If Puerto Ricans were at the root of the tree, black folk were the soil, the seed, the spore that created it. My question is, if Puerto Ricans were the so-called architects, then why don't we have any strong cultural resemblance from typical Puerto Rican sounds or instruments at that stage or any stage of hip hop?
First off, who’s claiming to be “architects”? I thought we WERE talking about contributions. Second, Fat Joe also Cuban… surprise, Cuban and Puerto Rican music share most of the same “sounds” and instruments. And guess what used damn near all of them? _Apache,_ the Incredible Bongo Band’s version, inarguably one of the most important breaks in the whole history & especially at the beginning in those developmental stages
@@montemojica29 appreciate you not deflecting and actually having something very mature & thoughtful to say in those 3 emojis. Too many people use the “I aint even gonna respond to that” excuse but not you, you would never do that ✊🏾
@@joojoobawbullshit nothing in hip-hop sounds like Tito Puente it all sounds like James Brown, if it came from your culture why didn't you make that in your homeland?
lol u won't get a closer dna match to any other black folk than Carribeans. plus the amount of Carribean legends that helped build the game.... u foolish but people not in the know aways talk the loudest
@AceHunter-o1i Joe is my guy but he's wrong on this one. Blacks started it and Ricans started doing what we were doing. They were the first outsiders to join. Facts
This is our culture… FBA/Freedman are the creators of this hip hop. Stop the bs. Also Melle Mel was on Tariq Nasheed’ s hip hop documentary Microphone Check so what is he talking about.
I’m not FBA but to see those BLK men Laughing and not checking the Whyt man Joe. Is why our FBA family feel a certain way.. I get it.. Get Tarik Nasheed on give him right to reply..
Foundational Black Americans not tolerating anymore fleecing of our culture. That's why y'all really mad. Delineation will show who the true innovators are and always have been.
I don’t understand why every time they have these interviews about the history of Hip Hop they always interview Fat Joe why don’t you interview the founding fathers of Hip Hop they still around living in their mid to late 60’s and 70’s and get the truth but you know why they don’t interview the founding fathers because they cant handle the truth.
Which is sad as grown men, seeing all these younger Puerto Ricans try to rewrite history when you can talk to one older than Fat Joe in the Bronx walking down the street and get the actual truth 😂
@ Exactly I’m born and raised New Yorker who grew up during the early stages of Hip Hop everything Fat Joe is saying is a absolute lie like you say just go to the Bronx and talk to the old heads like me and get the truth🤷🏾♂️
Facts , they is more of us dying and being part of this then them. The founding Fathers and Mothers need to come out on TH-cam with Fat Joe in it. He will see even the old Ricans will tell him who inspire them to hip hop. Facts
When yall gon have Black Americans present when yall Hispanics n Caribbeans talking this shyt ? Its never Black Americans present when they making these claims
TH-cam channel " The Culture Since 1971 " started the conversation about hip hop origins. Y'all tried to ignore Black Americans from Bronxdale who was there from the start!! We protecting our culture ✊🏽🇺🇸
FBAs invented Hip Hop, just like we invented Gospel, Soul, Ragtime, Country, Blues, Jazz, R&B, Funk, Disco, Rock n Roll, etc. etc. No one is saying others didn't contribute, but FBAs have always been the initial source, that's all we've been saying. Fat Joe was telling people the creation story of Hip-Hop was on some 50-50 us and them, so we had to shut that false narrative down..
Italian,Irish , Puerto Rican, African American all help shape hip hop in beginning u guys don't get NYC before gentrification....joe only saying blk n Puerto Rican n that's a lie it was Italian n Irish n Puerto Rican n Hispanic n black Americans of course
Foundational black Americans is not a crew,or organization. It means blacks that are from America since the beginning of it. Tariq nasheed isn’t the leader either. It’s no leader it’s just us black Americans proud to be from here just like y’all rep pr.. rep Jamaica,rep dr. We just rep our country also.
FBA is just a movement. Tariq nasheed is definitely the leader because he makes all the rules that u all have to follow. If you disagree with anything he says then you are no longer FBA.
@@christophergreen6820 your not a nation your a citizen in white america by way of slavery FBA have no authority or run any industries in America & infact the white man brought Africans & Carribbeans to replace yall lazy FBA
@@LaronWarReadythat’s just not true. It’s simply replacing African American with Foundational Black American, so we can’t be co-oped by political opposition by outside forces anymore. Tariq Is like Howard stern Tom lykis just a comedian and historian who people like to listen to. We’ve changed our name at least 4 times colored, negro, black, African American, and now Foundational Black American.
@@RH_DBAfricans are quick to say that we are not African , the reason we are called African Americans because Jessie Jackson and Al sharptond demanded we be called that because they were inspired after watching the movie roots . Wtf ? I don’t want to be called African American.
It took me sometime. But now I know. He has been on a Nationwide campaign against FBA's. Biting the hand that's fed him for decades. He let it go to his head......as Brand Nubian Proclaimed it would
@@creoleking206 Yes, there is a lot racism amongst so called latinos that needs to be addressed. Fat Joe should address this at some point to create more balance to the conversation. The thing is, it’s a very nuanced issue. Latinos are a mixture of different people, even more so after the Spanish conquest. Some descend from the conqueror, so they’ll have the same spirit as the conqueror. Some descend from the 10 tribes of Jacob who migrated to the western hemisphere over 2500 years ago. It’s more nuanced than most people understand or are willing to say.
@@SupaNatural28 well the FBAs who are his peers are killin him. These guys get in their home and talk bad about us. Walk out g the door and do everything they can to imitate
@betbet5606 if that's true that's very rare. Black ppl are very accepting that iswhy Eminem and Joe etc could get into hip hop. Cardi b talks about Spanish Colorism. Ancient Egypt isn't black and neither is Moses soon Tupac will be latino lol. Ppl always stealing Black ppls creativity.
@phillybul215 Forever Broke Again... you can Keep those Letters 🤣😂🤣😂 That's weak and Not Original... we all know Black Americans got influenced by Black Caribbeans since we been playing musix Instruments waaaaay before The Black South 💯💯 Grafitti started in Philly by Cornpuff was the funniest Joke I heard in my Life 🤣😂🤣😂 since Latinos been throwing up the Anarchy Sign since the 40s 😂🤣 it's Sad how Fake Culture Sound...spreading Lies with Fake Facts 🎶💯🎶
@americasmaker we been Ryhming to Drums and Guitars since the 40s...its called TROVA 🤣😂🤣😂 you Not saying Nothing just spreading Lies and misinformation 💯 💯 what do you know about NYCulture....this ain't California 💯 Go Re-Educate yourself...4REALZ...💯 BRRRRRR....STICK'EM...FAT BOYZ... BROOKLYN REAL RAP MUSIX STARTED IN BKLYN THE BRONX JUST GAVE IT A NAME...We Built Different Over Here.. BIRTHPLACE OF LEGENDS... CITY OF KINGS 🎶💯🔥💯🎶BKLYN718 💯
FBA is not radical its truthful. Im half Afro Latino/FBA, grew up in the NY area, and moms is from the Bronx. Now that context is provided, Im here to say Blk Americans created the artform we come to know as Hip Hop. 💯 This is undeniably the truth. Joe's issue is he's too egotistical to do the knowledge. Nobody gives af about your money. You made much of it off of claiming Black American culture. Problem is, that so called Black and Brown coalition has ran its course.
Joe you are misinformed and you’re being intellectually dishonest. Trying to include another group into the “origin” of an FBA art form is dangerous and disrespectful!
1. Rap been in black American music since the 1920s pigmeat Markham here comes the judge and who got the number dropped 1968. Kool herc party didn't exist until 1973. Pigmeat rapped on a break boom bat beat. James Brown music was being played not Bob Marley or Tito Puente. The break dancing moves had been around since the 1930s plus tap dancers was doing the same moves in the 40s 50s and 60s. I don't understand how people can think playing records that has a break down and dancing to break down of a beat is a invention lol all the elements of hip hop been around pre hip hop. Jamaican Toasting has no influence on rapping. Black Americans been rapping since the 1920s toasting didn't come around Jamaican until the late 60s and 70s. Black Americans been flowing and since the 1920s. Black Americans invented jazz, blues, rock, country , r&b, soul music, house music, so many other genres. Its hilarious how people think dudes playing down south records on.a turn table and using dance moves that been around for decades is a creation lol Kool herc wasnt the first to break records. Puerto Ricans and Caribbeans did not create hip hop. James Brown even rapped on in black and Im proud. Most of James Brown beats is already broken down. Graffiti also existed pre hip hop. The lies have to stop. Black Americans don't listen to Caribbean music. Jazz influenced reggae not the other way around stop it
@@idk4778 deal with it hip-hop comes from elements of black American music, which is FUNK that is Ohio the Midwest Detroit and Chicago. It’s a mixture so slow your ass down. This is why you guys are getting cold out saying that it’s a Brooklyn or New York thing it’s a American black thing slow your ass down.
@@idk4778nonsense the origins of rap doesn't sound like Tito Puente, it doesn't sound like Bob Marley, the origins of rap sounds like James Brown. We never needed a Caribbean influence in our art forms as FBA
Im done with Joe. As a Foundational Black American I realize my culture and ancestry is not the same as West Indians and Caribbean or so called Latino folks. Im not aligning with them. Now it uou have the spirit of the great PR Arturo Schomburg, the great Trini Stokley Carmichael and The magnificent JA, Ma4cus Garvey im not aligning with them.
What are we talking about?? Its all documented!! Fat Joe wasn't there. All the pioneers that are still alive has said on video that hip hop comes from Black American culture, Grand Master Flash, Melle Mel, Herc, Caz, ShaRock, DJ Hollywood, Charlie Chase, Whippa Whip, Ruby Dee. Idc what any emotional person is claiming. They all said it was started by black Americans. Period! Everyone other group contributed just like Jazz and Rock.
Yes, and on your way to there, you’re gonna pass by all types of “blacks/caribbeans/ricans/latinos/etc.” all getting along just fine and loving each other like family.
Majority of New York is anchor babies, there's more black people with immigrant parents than there are black people with black american parents. Their influence is broader and they understand the agenda more than we do because most migrants hate their own countries. Trying to rewrite history in our faces.
Y'all going to let Fat Joe disrespect Lord Jamar like that on a black platform? This is why fat joe gets away with ehat he does because blacks don't check him
@ST-wj1hq Bruh no black people allowing that period. Y'all can have yall FBA movement, but any black is no co-signing a white hispanic talking like that. Alot of FBA has been given Fat Joe pass years which is why he talks crazy.
I lived in NYC for over 20 years. I lived near Broadway uptown around a lot of 🇩🇴... it was no big happy family. I lived in Harlem. It was never a big "Black and Brown coalition. People were separated by race for the most part.
Here's the issue people have with Joe, "No matter how radical he may think a Puerto Rican group maybe, he would not aggressively disrespect them the way he just did FBA's", Because he knows he would have to answer to all Puerto Ricans no matter what that group views are. Yet, here these goofies are giggling up with him. None of these clowns had the heart to question what he's saying.
I get you a bit, but I don't completely agree, I'm half and half. So I see both sides of the debate differently. On the rican side we have our what we call shit eaters in Spanish. We can't stand those fux because they think they better than most Ricans because of things like, they consider themselves pure Ricans. I think he's looking at it from that same stand point. You got fba dudes saying fux fat Joe and he ain't one of us, so he's coming at them with that same energy. From my view, I know music and so much more has been stolen from our people and it looks like the same play, I don't think it is but I get why my people would be apprehensive against my other people😂. For the most part its a miscommunication of what's really being said. To add to it, I'm from NY and there's a difference to my black family from NY and someone from North Carolina. A New Yorker will get that bond more a brother NC looking like fux those Ricans, I've seen it myself, same as a Rican from the island that don't know shit about hip-hop jumping in to lay claim. It's a little more complex than it needs to be if you ask me.
@@PrinceSonCheebaHoffa is constantly disrespecting black Americans and why I stopped watching because he said SLICK SHID ABOUT SLAVERY WEN BOOSIE WAS ON HIS PODCAST dude lowkey highkey always saying foul shid about da south and his music is garbage
@@betbet5606what most Blacks outside of NY don’t understand is that there’s a serious riff between Boricuas from the island vs Boricuas born & bred here aka Nuyoricans. Nuyoricans more so align with Black Americans. But we are the same people that’s why our spirits connect. For example I’m Black American but I listen to reggae and salsa because that music got soul.
You asked the question like he wasn't saying it in 93. Pac, Snoop, Biggie, nobody said a word to him. Big Pun used it all the time too. Nothing cool about it just trying to figure out why people choose to have an issue with it 30 yes later after he's said I 50 billion times 😂
@@melanatedwarrior3530 because there is a certain culture that comes from the hood, brother. Not saying it’s a good culture, but it shapes people nonetheless. Most (not all) of “blacks and latinos” descend from the 12 tribes. Not sure how familiar you are with scripture or if you even believe in it, but it’s all true. This is our real history. Most of us actually descend from the same ancestors.
Bruh yall took James Brown beats which is a FBA from Carolina, Muhammad Ali was rapping b4 hip hop, he's from Kentucky. Pigmeat Markham "Here comes the judge" came out in 68 they was rapping from Carolina. Most of the beats yall used were FBA mainly from the south, midwest or west coast, Maze, Isley Vrothers, Al Green, Zapp, Parliament, Issac Hayes, EWF etc the facts r tge facts
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Obviously Puba was the best, but when puba went solo, i did bump in god, we trust more than the reel to reel. If you are real hip hop head, you know what i'm talking about. And joe did too. Punks jump up to get beat down, took over a whole summer. Joe is taking this to a place.He doesn't need to take it to. As you can read the comments, he might have to have a conversation and apologize to lord j. I doubt it, but he should because he just went all the way bad.
No black people let him run wild. The only time Fat Joe is around black people is when it's time to make money. Other than that he surrounds himself with puerto ricans. Constantly using the N-word🤷🏿
Well said....he set now so dont care. But guess what? He likes being in the spotlight so being called out by an entire population/community will hurt him. Make him an example,,,,CANCEL
Black people created rap music . Just like rock and roll and jazz and even country and they trying to take that from us too. Ricans did not create shit. If they did it would be in Spanish not English. Just like their music Miranga and all that other shit
It is disrespectful. We are a family we are a lineage and to have this pop goes the weasel mf disrespect us is crazy. Look at the comments fam I’m so proud of us FBA’s. We ain’t letting it slide.
There is no problem with jamaicans but stop lying about orgin no one is not cool with Puerto Ricans it's just the origin that is getting twisted you're from Forrest houses fat joe you know that you're twisting it up . This is sad damn math you truly hurt yourself on this one.
@@tadah21 Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects, Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
what the diff from a Jamaican and a Puerto Rican to you?? weirdos in this comment section all eating rice and beans and stew chicken lmao American education has failed you
Sorry Fat Joe is wrong! The “ Breaks “ has been apart of FBA culture musically before the term Hip Hop was coined! Hip Hop comes from the Breaks! As far as Break Dancing the older BX participants said “ Blacks stop Break Dancing around 75-78 during the Disco era and when dudes started rapping on Wax..Puerto Ricans picked up the art form in the late 70s early 80s! They changed the dance form by Breaking off beat and added their flavor but they didn’t create “Breaking” “Rapping”” Fashion” or “The musical scores that are sampled even to this day!” ( The Funk) There are Puerto Rican ( including Joe), legends, in hip-hop but the creation No..
Joe ant no fkn Legend we taking that,,,, just like he tookit from Jamar... right? Name me a Puerto Rican Legend that helped create Hip Hop? Im really ignorant and need this education....
You can tell he's using the n word in a disrespectful, racist way. I'm over him. The men in the room keep laughing everytime he says it. I think they were uncomfortable.
@@R.Blackstonethese “carribean” men are “black” . See the problem is no matter how hard you try reality keeps getting in the way of y’all’s delusion. African American and Afro Caribbean are the same people.
2:27 Niccas laughing in the back as Joe says that typical rhetoric discerning a black man? “Radical racist”? C’mon fam. He already Latin saying nicca left and right when y’all probably fight if anyone else says it but what’s another topic… yikes
Yeeeaaaaaahhhh let him publicly run his mouth and discredit himself even further. Hip Hop was created by Foundational Black Americans and he is a guest in that house. An unwelcome guest now.
How is it Racism when people are proud of there culture!! Joe is crazy I can’t jack any Spanish dude saying anything about my people y’all crazy for this in my opinion.
This is why I stopped dealing with math. The fact that he's allowing Joe to disrespect a legend is noticeable. Joe said his brother carried the crates; that's a terrible role to help.
Dear nyc carribbeans and latinos 1. Rap has been around since the 1920s and 30s in black American music 2. Break dancers at herc first party was black Americans who initiated the black Americans tap dancers. Spinning on the floor has been done in the 1930s. 3. Break Beats kool herc was playing james brown music not reggae which was influenced by black American jazz. James brown music has breaks in it. Herc was playing black American music not carribbean or latino music at his party. 4. Graffiti been around since the 1960s 5. Go listen to pigmeat Markham here comes the judge and who got the number in 1968..all the elements of hip hop exist outside of hip hop. Nyc is just the place to give it a name..hip hip always existed in black American culture. The problem is people are uneducated on hip hop
None of that stuff was hip hop. People were throwing things in baskets before basketball invented. The creation started HERE IN NYC! Hip hop was created by black americans but Caribbean americans played a MAJOR ROLE in the creation.
@@intelligentHoodGenius586 Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects, Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
👀👀...Hip-Hop is actually Jamaican Culture...Kool Herc is Jamaican and just basically had everybody turning up to his own dub-plates. and of course he knew all the cool niggas. he a real rasta. so he put all of them on some tracks. all the cool niggas remember that part. Well Sugar Hill gang was the formula. and just like the Jamaican national phrase goes..."Out of many,One people"... One fist...like Tommie Smith and John Carlos...John looked completely black...but I think know that's not the case
Not to mention tried to have us sell out to someone they installed not 1 person voted for her a women who always was Indian but when it came to her running for president and she needed that black vote she turned black , Mexican, Chinese etc she a chameleon just like Obama. The people are waking up and we are tired of these celebrities they need a reality check frfr there’s no them with us.🫡💯💪🏿❤️
@flyyygirl87 I feel you. But why we let him feel comfortable using that in public in the first place? Why check him now? I get it. I watched, and it didn't feel good at all. I actually never like when he says it, but him using it towards a group that's pro Reparations is crazy to me
Fat Joe represents the disrespect Hispanics display all the time ,,, we accept them give them culture & then they turn around & say it was their culture. He’s out of his mind
@ idk I think someone said he was Bajan but I don’t think so because what Bajan man calls people from Barbados “Barbadians” so idk I think he might be “black American” 🇺🇸 idk for sure
@@keymikescott2308 I'm not even Spanish or black and I was embarrassed by him using the world like that. Likes he's black. He think because he is from hood he is automatically black.
Well, I don’t see how your prophet Tariq really helped the streets of LA to get better. He just managed to take some of that inferiority complex y’all got off of your shoulders, but yall still struggling. Tariq lives in the whitest neighborhood in LA and ain’t gonna live next to yall anytime soon 😂😂😂
@@SuperShinobi95you are an “African-American” . “Black” is a color , it is not an identity. “Black” is also an English word. We are not defined by Europeans nor should be divided by them.
Nah Fat Joe is wrong here. A real dialogue needs to be had. No funny business. The issue is this, New York prides itself on being a melting pot, but the Black Americans who were there before any Puerto Rican, or other Black immigrants are the ones who built the foundation. Black Americans embraced everyone and as a result Puerto Ricans, Jamaicans, etc., developed an entitlement to Black American culture to where they are taking credit for creating a culture that is Black American at the root. Nobody said Puerto Ricans didn’t contribute and that Caribbeans didn’t contribute, but give credit to Black Americans for laying the foundation to this culture we call Hip Hop. This is coming from a New Yorker born and raised in Harlem, with family all over the Bronx and parts of Queens. There is a difference between Creation, Contribution, and participation. These words are not interchangeable. We are giving contributors and participants creation credit and that is where the issue is and people not knowing the difference.
@ This was already proven false. This is why Fat Joe going around lying. Had yall not been out here lying in the first place there wouldn’t have been an issue.
@@chubbywubby90 how when there’s videos in the 1940’s with black Americans doing there thing dancing and rapping-damn it makes no sense for you people to be so ignorant and uneducated DAMN THERE IS SO MUCH PROOF OUT HETE, you just want to be saying shit just to be fan shit get educated. BEAUTIFUL BLACK AMERICANS MADE DSMN NEAR EVERY MUSIC GENRE EVEN HIPHOP. LOLLOL lol LOLLOL lol LOLLOL lol lol
Joey should have never did this! Go watch Microphone Check the documentary! The “”creators of Hip Hop” say that PRs weren’t involved with the creation! You are literally disrespecting the creators! Most American genres of music were invented by FBAs & we suppose to believe the blackest one wasn’t???? 🤦♂️ Get out ya feelings Joe! Give the FBAs the props! Also you can’t give Tariq shine - Tariq is a GLOBAL respected OG out here! Flex been across the finish line! 🫡 💯
@LaronWarReady I agree! It was one sided! It was the TRUTH side! You 🧢 - ing too! For months Tariq tried to get the so called PR creators to be in the documentary & NONE showed up or volunteered! He was doing TH-cam videos begging them to be involved & they gave him the run around! Yall forget Tariq is a “historian” - you gotta come correct & with facts! His ish ain’t barbershop talk brah! He took trips to NY searching for cats & no one wanted the smoke! 💯
@@emoneybagz8629 Miss me with that nonsense. U believe everything your leader tells you. That documentary is garbage and bias. Only an FBA is gonna subscribe to that trash. He is an educated brother but he has was too much pride and that is gonna be his downfall.
Homie a conquistador. I’m black. I grew up in a black Spanish household of all different color. Can speak as fluent Spanish as anyone, name any food, actually studying Puerto Rican history in college. Black people started hip hop. Hip hop will forever be a black thing.
Hip-hop isn’t only DJs and rhymes, Puerto Ricans were major parts of breakdance and graffiti crews back in the day that helped build the foundation of this culture. And DJ Disco wiz was the first Puerto Rican DJ not Charlie chase @melanatedwarrior3530
@@lawr8th Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects, Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
The great migration happened from the south to the north and they brought their culture with them! Kool Herc said he got it from the black Americans on a couple of videos.
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952ny didnt become like that until the late 90s when fba moved out of that sesspool,pick up a book and learn some history
I'm from NYC and know damn well they didn't start hip hop. They were the first culture to participate. It's crazy how ppl just wamt to jump on the bandwagon of erasing our history. They had freestyle why he not claiming that.
So if the first to create the official techniques that make a Hip Hop DJ a Real Hip Hop Dj are credited by Herc and Flash, who are both Caribbean and not fba culture, and if the first Mc is credited to Coke La Rock, who is a Jamaican/Caribbean descendant, and if the first breaking crew that introduced breaking to the whole world is the Puerto Rican crew name The Rock Steady crew, and by the way, if also the official breaking move patterns was created and credited to the Puerto Rican crews not fba, and if the most valuable graffiti arts and graffiti artists in the whole world is by Puerto Rican/Haitian, and if the one who invented the movement and even named it Hip Hop is Afrika Bambaataa (Caribbean) and the zulu nation, it clearly means that all the creators of Hip Hop Culture are Caribbean not fba. The facts are there in black and white, so if that’s what the facts shows and prove, how can can fba claim ownership of something that clearly was not created by FBA? So even when Joe said 50 / 50 he was very generous about it cuz if we actually do the real math about the beginning of Hip Hop , Graffiti, Breaking, DJ, Mc, the math will equal 85% Caribbeans which includes Ricans because Ricans are obviously Caribbean too for those who didn't know that
@SLPGroundSoundMusic Hip hop is derived from the cultural art forms and styles of Black Americans. All those Caribbean dudes you just named came over here and assimilated into our culture. They didn't bring nothing over here culturally from the Caribbean that led to the creation of hip hop.
@@SLPGroundSoundMusic you missing the point dummy …hip hop comes from the other music we created …just let us have our stuff …y’all doing too much …stop acting like it’s based off love too cause y’all hate us too …tired of y’all
@@phillybul215 sdff1. The concept of the "Merry-Go-Round," as invented by Herc, symbolizes the idea of looping or repeating breaks. This technique is fundamental to the identity of a hip-hop DJ. To fully appreciate the significance of Herc's merry-go-round, one must understand that it laid the foundation for breakdancing; without it, both the merry-go-round and the and Breakers, hip-hop culture itself may not have emerged. 2. Flash's Quick Mix Theory represents the evolution of Herc's merry-go-round concept. What distinguishes Flash's approach is his refinement of the merry-go-round technique, integrating scratching as an instrument while manually mixing tracks simultaneously. 3. The original creator of breaking is Spy, a Puerto Rican. who is confirmed by Herc, Crazy Legs and every real breaker / Bboys ! and Spy Himself to be the first Breaker/Bboys that they ever seen. 4. Julio 204 played a pivotal role in establishing the graffiti movement in New York from 1967 to 1970 and was also Puerto Rican.,,, Taki 189 Himself confirm that his inspiration was by seeing Julio 204 Tags all over New York, Which makes Julio 204 the Beginning of the Tagging / Graffiti movement in New York. 5. Coke La Rock himself said that, The work "Jibaro" by The Puerto Rican Felipe Luciano of the Last Poets served as an inspiration for MCing. The Last Poets were comprised of individuals from African and Caribbean backgrounds, not fba 6. Bambaataa was instrumental in unifying the various elements of hip-hop and establishing the movement itself. Analyzing the contributions, it becomes evident that Caribbean artists were key creators and innovators of hip-hop, a statement grounded in factual evidence rather than personal opinions. Basically, when they say James Brown, or Funk, soul, Jazz, or ect, its all contributions to Hip Hop development, not hip hop creations! just like Salsa, Mambo, Bolero, plena, bomba or ect, its all contributions of developing the sound, thats all it is, because what was actually invented in Hip Hop was the merry-go-round concept, and the Quick Mix Theory concept, the rest of the art forms are rooted to ancient and medieval civilizations our civilizations just added/Contributed or revolutionized those art forms !!! Prior to Herc's introduction of the merry-go-round, all DJs were merely playlist DJs; they did not loop breaks in the way that Herc did, which is what defined the hip-hop DJ. This information is well-documented, supported by published accounts, and validated by hip-hop scholars, pioneers, and participants who were present during these pivotal events. The evidence regarding the key figures who instigated significant changes in hip-hop is indisputable and factual and not based on feelings based opinions and delusional lies..
FBA always show love, but this is just about telling the truth. Others contributed greatly to Hip-Hop, but it was FBA that started it. No hate to anyone.
How do u have hiphop without Jazz, RnB, Funk, Soul, Disco music? Literally every genre black Americans created . Why does no one ever ask Fat Joe this? Who were the PR and Jamaicans who had a hand in creating these? ? Easy answer, none.
They laughing but ain’t nothing funny
Elaborate brother
@@jonnysoto718self explanatory brother
Nobody smilin with these agents no mo?😂
@@jonnysoto718 those tethers are sitting in that shop laughing while a blue eyed devil calls us Nrs.... Black Americans and Black Carribeans are not brothers.... thasa fact
@@yungplex9503shut up you aint on nuffin😂
Can somebody explain to me, why Black people from here taking pride in their culture and accomplishments are racists, but puerto ricans, dominicans, and jamaicans and people from various other islands showing their flags and being proud of their culture isn't racist?
Exactly. All these other races/nationalities hate seeing FBA's take credit and be proud of our creations/accomplishments. FBA's have the most accomplishments, so if anybody should be proud and happy, then it should definitely be us.
It's not racist to me 🤷🏻♂️ I don't have an issue with. I do have an issue when ya talk crazy about us to get your point across though.
@@DominicanAndCivilized We only "talk crazy" in response to other groups talking crazy 🤷🏾♂️
@@Davo32310 That's funny cuz we believe we're responding to what's said about us too.
@@DominicanAndCivilizedHow many times have we had to hear tethers and foreigners tell us we have no culture? Isn't that talking crazy? So that's where the attitude comes from. We're returning that energy. Tethers come over here and get a little footing and they start looking down on FBA. We're not with that and we're going to check it every time... because none of them would be over here if it wasn't for us. They wouldn't be able to get rich if it wasn't for FBA.
See the problem is they think black music just started at hip hop …we started every single genre of music …
🎯 All American music has Black origins
@@micrenaissance9819the music has African origins.
@@sway9044 WRONG! All American music has Black American (FBA) origins
@@joshbrown3060
And Black AmeriKKKans have Afrikan Origins.
"You cannot revolt against a people whose values you share." - Dr. Amos N. Wilson
Some Puerto Rican have black African in them
I see the comments passed the vibe check!!!!😂 blk Americans stand on our square from these culture vultures! ✊🏾
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Black Americans are lost and kiss the white man’s ass too much. We hate ourselves. These comments only show we are ready to war against ourselves.
If they don't know what FBA is then they're going to know now. We are 43 million strong in this country non-immigrants descendants of American black slaves. Unsubscribe to this ignorant bullshit ASAP.
We created every genre of American music. What makes yall think we needed help creating Hip Hop?
Very easy to say tbat after using the help.
You didn't create the English language. You didn't create rhyming
I’m black and I’m tired of that rhetoric. If we created Hip Hop then why Massa is still running this sh!t business wise???
Puerto Ricans started Hiphop!
@@HatersHaveOpinion1lies
This what happen when you let someone run wild in your house….they start thinking they own the place….
😆 facts I hate to laugh but it’s true. Stop letting folks like this infiltrate and try to rewrite history.
he grew up in the house. Joe is an insider. anyone that didn’t grow up in the Bronx in the 70’s and 80’s are outsiders. 🤷🏾♂️
Yall miggas outsiders
Man, you ain't never lie.
You from NY?
Nobody outside New York was ever inspired by a Puerto Rican rapper…
Nobody inside New York either. Stop playing with us 😂
I was born n raised in the BX and i ain't never been inspired by no rican rappers🤣
@@QLivinExactly 🤣
Correct
your great grandfather was property
Oh you just gonna act like Lord Jamar didn't have Ruby D on his show, him and his mans were the first Puerto ricans in Hiphop and they said there were no Puerto ricans in Hiphop before that and that was in 76. Ask yourself why is he so mad to admit Blacks invented hiphop and everybody else contributed to it 🤔. His own man smooth the engineer said Joe said racist slurs about blacks!
Bro every Puerto Rican said or heard some black racist shit said in old house hold
Not only that Lord Jamar and DJ Phase (who was there from the beginning). Challenged Fat Joe, Busta, Krs, and any latino and African/Jamaican etc to a debate live. None of them took the challenge and were all quiet. Crazy Legs talking about wanting to fight Lord Jamar instead of debating. They know damn well what they are saying is bullshit. There own latinos Charley Chase & Ruby Dee admitted it came from American blacks!
@@gilbertrodriguezjr5508 We don't care about no Latinos bruh, y'all irrelevant! Most blacks folks only see Ricans on TV from NY or Florida.
@@gilbertrodriguezjr5508 Yeah that's why we shouldnt fwu guys anymore. You not like us. Fba + other on code blks all day.
Joe sound corny and bitter he know good and damn well they didn't create shit and Math is even more corny for co-signing this nonsense. FBA creation that you are allowed to participate in. Never forget you are a guest and you starting to wear out your welcome. You too can be evicted ✌🏾
Facts!!!
@@ST-wj1hq oh I meant him too when I said allowed to participate
facts
@@ST-wj1hqthere is no fba, that is some online nonsense started by Yvette Carnell and hijacked by Tariq nasheed. African American/ Afro Caribbean is the same . Always has been always will be.
@@squab39 Joey Crack spoke facts!!!!
I got to go out and defend Lord Jamar. He has had some of the earliest Puerto Ricans in the game come out to validate his claim. He also never discredited the Puerto Rican contribution in the early days of hip hop.
If Puerto Ricans were at the root of the tree, black folk were the soil, the seed, the spore that created it.
My question is, if Puerto Ricans were the so-called architects, then why don't we have any strong cultural resemblance from typical Puerto Rican sounds or instruments at that stage or any stage of hip hop?
First off, who’s claiming to be “architects”? I thought we WERE talking about contributions. Second, Fat Joe also Cuban… surprise, Cuban and Puerto Rican music share most of the same “sounds” and instruments. And guess what used damn near all of them? _Apache,_ the Incredible Bongo Band’s version, inarguably one of the most important breaks in the whole history & especially at the beginning in those developmental stages
@joojoobaw 😂😂😂
@@montemojica29 appreciate you not deflecting and actually having something very mature & thoughtful to say in those 3 emojis. Too many people use the “I aint even gonna respond to that” excuse but not you, you would never do that ✊🏾
And. Doesn’t change what he says now
@@joojoobawbullshit nothing in hip-hop sounds like Tito Puente it all sounds like James Brown, if it came from your culture why didn't you make that in your homeland?
Y’all letting this guy sit up here and throw the N word around is disgusting.
@flyyygirl87
Pipe down! FBA gonna tighten Fat Joe sloppy a$$ up with the quickness.
"You cannot revolt against a people whose values you share." - Dr. Amos N. Wilson
Welcome to nyc.. where the Latinos say it more than the black ppl
@@flyyygirl87 embarrassing 🙄
Fat Joe been saying that word for decades. Now it's a problem?
Math is not FBA thats why he sitting over there giggling, gotta keep an eye on those West Indians too.
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lol u won't get a closer dna match to any other black folk than Carribeans. plus the amount of Carribean legends that helped build the game.... u foolish but people not in the know aways talk the loudest
exactly
Yep
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what element of hip hop was created by Latinos and please don't mention anything after 1973?
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Right.
Exactly 🤣
Puerto Ricans created Rock Dancing in the 60's which became Breaking, Locking, and Popping
@robertovasquez6279 That lie has already been DEBUNKED. Y'all copied our funk dance to come up with your so-called rock dance🤣
I'm from the Bronx. Born and raised. 1980s child. I think It's disingenuous for Joe to double down on this path. Not a good look.
I'm on Sedgwick Ave been here since day 1 Joe is right!
@@AceHunter-o1ino he is not
@AceHunter-o1i Joe is my guy but he's wrong on this one. Blacks started it and Ricans started doing what we were doing. They were the first outsiders to join. Facts
Mecc gonna represent! Let em know mecc! Math a Joe crack fan!
@@PleaseDoReadfacts
This is our culture… FBA/Freedman are the creators of this hip hop. Stop the bs. Also Melle Mel was on Tariq Nasheed’ s hip hop documentary Microphone Check so what is he talking about.
Keep quiet
@@trollsoultakerhell666 u keep ur mouth closed y'all can get messed up out here don't hide behind a cpu
Take it easy tough guy@@twongreen9968
F/anatical B/uckbroken A/coltyes that allowed themselves to be named by a cointelpro William O Neal grifter have no culture!
Exactly 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I’m not FBA but to see those BLK men Laughing and not checking the Whyt man Joe. Is why our FBA family feel a certain way.. I get it..
Get Tarik Nasheed on give him right to reply..
Exactly!!
💯💯 it's disgusting!
We're not your family
@@byanymeansnecessary3052 As long as Tariq Nasheed lives in this all white neighborhood, I won’t take anything he says seriously…
Your ignorance promotes white supremacy. The same white supremacy that divided African decent by skin tone. Do you know what "black" even means?
Foundational Black Americans not tolerating anymore fleecing of our culture. That's why y'all really mad. Delineation will show who the true innovators are and always have been.
Yall need to chill with the everyday made up acronyms...Nobody scared if yall with the divisive bs.
Lol foh. Yall used to be ADOS but it flopped so now its FBA and it aint taking off either so i'm just waiting for the next rebranding
Everyone in da world follows black culture but black culture doesn’t follow da world
So stfu and delineate then. Nobody cares. We dont wanna be linked to anyone that thinks like u anyway
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Fat Joe respectfully you are done and was the weakest link in your group you robbed
@@m.o.bmindonbusiness5584 nah, Joe, like puff and Big, got to shine after Pun's demise and he rode that favor till today😂
@@m.o.bmindonbusiness5584 and the survey says you are wrong.
@@m.o.bmindonbusiness5584 To who, rap a verse, not hook without google
@@m.o.bmindonbusiness5584i actually agree with Fat Joe, lol, for once, gotta stand for unity not segregation, and. Lord Jamar is a Bozo
@@m.o.bmindonbusiness5584 a millionaire legend baby
I don’t understand why every time they have these interviews about the history of Hip Hop they always interview Fat Joe why don’t you interview the founding fathers of Hip Hop they still around living in their mid to late 60’s and 70’s and get the truth but you know why they don’t interview the founding fathers because they cant handle the truth.
Exactly. This segment was disgusting
Which is sad as grown men, seeing all these younger Puerto Ricans try to rewrite history when you can talk to one older than Fat Joe in the Bronx walking down the street and get the actual truth 😂
@ Exactly I’m born and raised New Yorker who grew up during the early stages of Hip Hop everything Fat Joe is saying is a absolute lie like you say just go to the Bronx and talk to the old heads like me and get the truth🤷🏾♂️
Facts , they is more of us dying and being part of this then them. The founding Fathers and Mothers need to come out on TH-cam with Fat Joe in it. He will see even the old Ricans will tell him who inspire them to hip hop. Facts
Word!
When yall gon have Black Americans present when yall Hispanics n Caribbeans talking this shyt ? Its never Black Americans present when they making these claims
Era of exposure....
They 304’s that’s why…
TH-cam channel " The Culture Since 1971 " started the conversation about hip hop origins. Y'all tried to ignore Black Americans from Bronxdale who was there from the start!! We protecting our culture ✊🏽🇺🇸
FACTS!!!🎯🎯
They def don’t want to mention them at ALL . Anytime talking about this DJ Phase should be apart of the convo . They scared of the truth .
FBAs invented Hip Hop, just like we invented Gospel, Soul, Ragtime, Country, Blues, Jazz, R&B, Funk, Disco, Rock n Roll, etc. etc. No one is saying others didn't contribute, but FBAs have always been the initial source, that's all we've been saying. Fat Joe was telling people the creation story of Hip-Hop was on some 50-50 us and them, so we had to shut that false narrative down..
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@michaelg3573 they dont want to address this. They just want to throw the grenade in the room and then run.....and then call it hatred on FBA's part.
So no black people with Caribbean heritage played a role? That's surprising.
@BakerClassics played roles?..yes. Started or originated roles? No
@@BakerClassicsThey contributions but didn't have anything to do with the creation of Hip Hop
Black Americans from the Bronx have said ricans have nothing to do with creating hip hop
Italian,Irish , Puerto Rican, African American all help shape hip hop in beginning u guys don't get NYC before gentrification....joe only saying blk n Puerto Rican n that's a lie it was Italian n Irish n Puerto Rican n Hispanic n black Americans of course
@@BoceGarcia mannnnnn beat it. You know exactly who created hiphop.
@@BoceGarciaHILARIOUSNESS 😂😂
@@ReddReigns08and we know exactly who ruined it with drugs and murder
@Bpt_chino203 Yea, tether culture vultures like yourself 💯
Foundational black Americans is not a crew,or organization. It means blacks that are from America since the beginning of it. Tariq nasheed isn’t the leader either. It’s no leader it’s just us black Americans proud to be from here just like y’all rep pr.. rep Jamaica,rep dr. We just rep our country also.
FBA is just a movement. Tariq nasheed is definitely the leader because he makes all the rules that u all have to follow. If you disagree with anything he says then you are no longer FBA.
@@christophergreen6820 your not a nation your a citizen in white america by way of slavery FBA have no authority or run any industries in America & infact the white man brought Africans & Carribbeans to replace yall lazy FBA
@@LaronWarReadythat’s just not true. It’s simply replacing African American with Foundational Black American, so we can’t be co-oped by political opposition by outside forces anymore. Tariq Is like Howard stern Tom lykis just a comedian and historian who people like to listen to. We’ve changed our name at least 4 times colored, negro, black, African American, and now Foundational Black American.
Facts I’m FBA
@@RH_DBAfricans are quick to say that we are not African , the reason we are called African Americans because Jessie Jackson and Al sharptond demanded we be called that because they were inspired after watching the movie roots . Wtf ? I don’t want to be called African American.
BEEN peeped Joe's card...... He's trash, been trash.
Facts
You peeped what? Huh? English please...
@100timessquare .... You utilize "huh" but don't understand "peeped" .... Then this isn't for you
It took me sometime. But now I know. He has been on a Nationwide campaign against FBA's.
Biting the hand that's fed him for decades.
He let it go to his head......as Brand Nubian Proclaimed it would
@@Lovely-ff7uv ... Exactly. Sometimes, it takes time. But once we see.... We should NEVER forget.
Y'all allowed this PR/Cuban to disrespect Foundational Black American people, Math unsubscribed
Math is Caribbean himself he’s not FBA
Duly Noted 🙄 ✊🏾1
Half of nyc from the Caribbeans dummy & Puerto Ricans & Carribbeans made hip hop
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 you didn't make anything
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 no they didn't
I'm tired of people trying to take credit for the shit we created. Black people stand tall 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
We? You included in that, huh?
Everything
That's a fact!!! We don't rock with Tether Squad!!! 💪🏿 💪🏿 💪🏿 💪🏿 💪🏿
This didn't help Fat Joe at all. Anytime blacks call out the anti-racism in latin America that Joe knows about were racist. You changed on us Joe.
While calling us “Broke niggahz” the Descendants from Africans enslaved in this country smh New York gotta hold this L
@@creoleking206 Yes, there is a lot racism amongst so called latinos that needs to be addressed. Fat Joe should address this at some point to create more balance to the conversation. The thing is, it’s a very nuanced issue. Latinos are a mixture of different people, even more so after the Spanish conquest. Some descend from the conqueror, so they’ll have the same spirit as the conqueror. Some descend from the 10 tribes of Jacob who migrated to the western hemisphere over 2500 years ago. It’s more nuanced than most people understand or are willing to say.
@@creoleking206 nah it’s always been there it’s a industry thing they don’t like us just our money that’s it.
His skin color changed? Always been like that.
Rosie Perez said on national television that Latinos are racist towards Blacks.
Y’all let this conquistador get on your platform and disrespect Black Americans and Lord Jamar? Where tf is Math Hoffa from?
He’s not FBA
He's a Caribbean Tether
@@terrencemalone2110Why you say that
Math is a tether
Exactly
Math is laughing because he isn't American either. So he doesn't care.
Yes
Im Haitian I still dont appreciate the slander
@@LUstCoTvu just on code #SALUTE
Chris Rock said it on his album and never mentioned Puerto Ricans
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@@flatbkush6 so fat Joe saying he black in the intro lol
Cancel and unsub
Math Hoffa for laughing and Fat Joe for not knowing Hip Hop History.
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Foundational Black Americans are the Legends!!🇺🇸
Facts!
Legends of what ? Lol yall the white man lap dog
agreed and i'm not even fba.
Facts 🇺🇸
BIGFACTS💯
You think Fba is Broke! Joe you and your fathers and moms didn't even like us messing with each other. You stop it.
FBA definitely not broke. But to guys like Joe, Maybe.
@SupaNatural28 Joe is one dude and he is Broke compared to Jay so we ain't gonna do that.
@@SupaNatural28 well the FBAs who are his peers are killin him. These guys get in their home and talk bad about us. Walk out g the door and do everything they can to imitate
That goes both ways brother, I'm black and Rican, my black fathers family gave him a hard time just like my rican mom's fam.
@betbet5606 if that's true that's very rare. Black ppl are very accepting that iswhy Eminem and Joe etc could get into hip hop. Cardi b talks about Spanish Colorism. Ancient Egypt isn't black and neither is Moses soon Tupac will be latino lol. Ppl always stealing Black ppls creativity.
A Puerto Rican, Jamaican and Trinidadian tryna tell us about FBA
@phillybul215 Forever Broke Again... you can Keep those Letters 🤣😂🤣😂
That's weak and Not Original... we all know Black Americans got influenced by Black Caribbeans since we been playing musix Instruments waaaaay before The Black South 💯💯 Grafitti started in Philly by Cornpuff was the funniest Joke I heard in my Life 🤣😂🤣😂 since Latinos been throwing up the Anarchy Sign since the 40s 😂🤣 it's Sad how Fake Culture Sound...spreading Lies with Fake Facts 🎶💯🎶
@@phillybul215 you’re from Philly. Stick to your jawns and learn something. We know where and how it started.
Yeah, it started from black American culture. There are no precedents for Hip Hop on your islands.
@americasmaker we been Ryhming to Drums and Guitars since the 40s...its called TROVA 🤣😂🤣😂 you Not saying Nothing just spreading Lies and misinformation 💯 💯 what do you know about NYCulture....this ain't California 💯
Go Re-Educate yourself...4REALZ...💯
BRRRRRR....STICK'EM...FAT BOYZ... BROOKLYN REAL RAP MUSIX STARTED IN BKLYN THE BRONX JUST GAVE IT A NAME...We Built Different Over Here..
BIRTHPLACE OF LEGENDS... CITY OF KINGS 🎶💯🔥💯🎶BKLYN718 💯
You're all North Americans just like you all like to lump all Africans as one. So what's the issue?
FBA is not radical its truthful. Im half Afro Latino/FBA, grew up in the NY area, and moms is from the Bronx. Now that context is provided, Im here to say Blk Americans created the artform we come to know as Hip Hop. 💯
This is undeniably the truth. Joe's issue is he's too egotistical to do the knowledge. Nobody gives af about your money. You made much of it off of claiming Black American culture. Problem is, that so called Black and Brown coalition has ran its course.
Joe you are misinformed and you’re being intellectually dishonest. Trying to include another group into the “origin” of an FBA art form is dangerous and disrespectful!
1. Rap been in black American music since the 1920s pigmeat Markham here comes the judge and who got the number dropped 1968. Kool herc party didn't exist until 1973. Pigmeat rapped on a break boom bat beat. James Brown music was being played not Bob Marley or Tito Puente. The break dancing moves had been around since the 1930s plus tap dancers was doing the same moves in the 40s 50s and 60s. I don't understand how people can think playing records that has a break down and dancing to break down of a beat is a invention lol all the elements of hip hop been around pre hip hop. Jamaican Toasting has no influence on rapping. Black Americans been rapping since the 1920s toasting didn't come around Jamaican until the late 60s and 70s. Black Americans been flowing and since the 1920s. Black Americans invented jazz, blues, rock, country , r&b, soul music, house music, so many other genres. Its hilarious how people think dudes playing down south records on.a turn table and using dance moves that been around for decades is a creation lol Kool herc wasnt the first to break records. Puerto Ricans and Caribbeans did not create hip hop. James Brown even rapped on in black and Im proud. Most of James Brown beats is already broken down. Graffiti also existed pre hip hop. The lies have to stop. Black Americans don't listen to Caribbean music. Jazz influenced reggae not the other way around stop it
Black Americans don't listen to Caribbean music is a lie. I've been to international carnivals and met a lot of Black Americans
Hiphop started in America!!! Black Americans, it’s our shit
Hip hop started in NYC, Bronx and Brooklyn, not all black Americans were involved
@@idk4778 deal with it hip-hop comes from elements of black American music, which is FUNK that is Ohio the Midwest Detroit and Chicago. It’s a mixture so slow your ass down. This is why you guys are getting cold out saying that it’s a Brooklyn or New York thing it’s a American black thing slow your ass down.
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Who else was involved and what element of hip hop did they create?
@@idk4778nonsense the origins of rap doesn't sound like Tito Puente, it doesn't sound like Bob Marley, the origins of rap sounds like James Brown. We never needed a Caribbean influence in our art forms as FBA
@@idk4778True, except It started In The South Bronx. Then the rest of the boroughs.
Im done with Joe. As a Foundational Black American I realize my culture and ancestry is not the same as West Indians and Caribbean or so called Latino folks. Im not aligning with them. Now it uou have the spirit of the great PR Arturo Schomburg, the great Trini Stokley Carmichael and The magnificent JA, Ma4cus Garvey im not aligning with them.
What are we talking about?? Its all documented!! Fat Joe wasn't there. All the pioneers that are still alive has said on video that hip hop comes from Black American culture, Grand Master Flash, Melle Mel, Herc, Caz, ShaRock, DJ Hollywood, Charlie Chase, Whippa Whip, Ruby Dee. Idc what any emotional person is claiming. They all said it was started by black Americans. Period! Everyone other group contributed just like Jazz and Rock.
It was Jamaicans, puerto ricans and a few fba
@chubbywubby90 Thats Cap. Grandmaster Caz already debunked that.
@@chubbywubby90 stop lying, I’m half Caribbean myslef and that cap, it wasn’t a few fba it was fbas that’s it
Kool Herc was one of the main pioneers of Hip Hop. He’s yaadie born n raised in Kingston.
@@dannypatton3559Say it louder !!!
Time to locate this barbershop and see whats to the disrespect for black Americans coming from here.
Yes, and on your way to there, you’re gonna pass by all types of “blacks/caribbeans/ricans/latinos/etc.” all getting along just fine and loving each other like family.
@@Emmanuel-ix4ycas long as we all high on blocc nobody can point out the real problem
@@Emmanuel-ix4ycso
@@Untoldgoat facts, we need better communication in our communities as well. We aren’t really taught to express ourselves.
Majority of New York is anchor babies, there's more black people with immigrant parents than there are black people with black american parents. Their influence is broader and they understand the agenda more than we do because most migrants hate their own countries. Trying to rewrite history in our faces.
This 2 min promo intro needs to stop
“They’re getting away with this !” Hoffa voice 😂
Yeah I like yo show Math but leave the rapping to professionals😂
Please & thank you !
So pretty much you're saying dont promote other stuff on a solid platform theyve built okay got it 👌🏿👎🏿
Damn hate is realer than ever
Okay, Im hating now, FBA CREATED HIP HOP y'all wanted in because we're fly as hell. Respect the Creators
Fat Joe 👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
James Brown started hip hop enough said
Y'all going to let Fat Joe disrespect Lord Jamar like that on a black platform? This is why fat joe gets away with ehat he does because blacks don't check him
go back to Ghana
Yup! Your absolutely right!
@ST-wj1hq Bruh no black people allowing that period. Y'all can have yall FBA movement, but any black is no co-signing a white hispanic talking like that. Alot of FBA has been given Fat Joe pass years which is why he talks crazy.
these are bajan tethers. not like us.
@@ST-wj1hq he's bajan.
Lord Jamar slander wont be tolerated...
He's a 🤡
He did say the world is flat, we can't go down that road
@@MaJo-h9h It will
@@betbet5606 Some will. Ignorance is bliss.
@@kh7688 it will not douchebag
I lived in NYC for over 20 years. I lived near Broadway uptown around a lot of 🇩🇴... it was no big happy family. I lived in Harlem. It was never a big "Black and Brown coalition. People were separated by race for the most part.
The whole NYC is separated by race.. But blacks and Puerto Ricans specifically grow up in a lot of the same hoods
Here's the issue people have with Joe, "No matter how radical he may think a Puerto Rican group maybe, he would not aggressively disrespect them the way he just did FBA's", Because he knows he would have to answer to all Puerto Ricans no matter what that group views are. Yet, here these goofies are giggling up with him. None of these clowns had the heart to question what he's saying.
Math ain't FBA. And i doubt the others are FBA on both sides, either.
How has he ever disrespected Black Americans?
I get you a bit, but I don't completely agree, I'm half and half. So I see both sides of the debate differently. On the rican side we have our what we call shit eaters in Spanish. We can't stand those fux because they think they better than most Ricans because of things like, they consider themselves pure Ricans. I think he's looking at it from that same stand point. You got fba dudes saying fux fat Joe and he ain't one of us, so he's coming at them with that same energy. From my view, I know music and so much more has been stolen from our people and it looks like the same play, I don't think it is but I get why my people would be apprehensive against my other people😂. For the most part its a miscommunication of what's really being said. To add to it, I'm from NY and there's a difference to my black family from NY and someone from North Carolina. A New Yorker will get that bond more a brother NC looking like fux those Ricans, I've seen it myself, same as a Rican from the island that don't know shit about hip-hop jumping in to lay claim. It's a little more complex than it needs to be if you ask me.
@@PrinceSonCheebaHoffa is constantly disrespecting black Americans and why I stopped watching because he said SLICK SHID ABOUT SLAVERY WEN BOOSIE WAS ON HIS PODCAST dude lowkey highkey always saying foul shid about da south and his music is garbage
@@betbet5606what most Blacks outside of NY don’t understand is that there’s a serious riff between Boricuas from the island vs Boricuas born & bred here aka Nuyoricans. Nuyoricans more so align with Black Americans. But we are the same people that’s why our spirits connect. For example I’m Black American but I listen to reggae and salsa because that music got soul.
why is he using the N word?
Are you from the hood?
You asked the question like he wasn't saying it in 93. Pac, Snoop, Biggie, nobody said a word to him. Big Pun used it all the time too. Nothing cool about it just trying to figure out why people choose to have an issue with it 30 yes later after he's said I 50 billion times 😂
@@Emmanuel-ix4yc What does being from the hoid have to do with ppl saying a word that has absolutely nothing to do with them or their ppl🤔
@@melanatedwarrior3530 because there is a certain culture that comes from the hood, brother. Not saying it’s a good culture, but it shapes people nonetheless. Most (not all) of “blacks and latinos” descend from the 12 tribes. Not sure how familiar you are with scripture or if you even believe in it, but it’s all true. This is our real history. Most of us actually descend from the same ancestors.
@@Emmanuel-ix4yc That culture you're speaking of is Foundational Black American culture, and it has absolutely nothing to do with ricans
Bruh yall took James Brown beats which is a FBA from Carolina, Muhammad Ali was rapping b4 hip hop, he's from Kentucky. Pigmeat Markham "Here comes the judge" came out in 68 they was rapping from Carolina. Most of the beats yall used were FBA mainly from the south, midwest or west coast, Maze, Isley Vrothers, Al Green, Zapp, Parliament, Issac Hayes, EWF etc the facts r tge facts
The greeks invented rhyming over a beat
I cant believe yall let this dude get up here and speak this anti black bs. Now im interested to know where these guys family from.
Unless your gonna have Tariq Nasheed come on your show stop having these non FBA keep on your platform trying to hijack our culture
White Joe should have left this alone
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Math disappointed in you, get educated on life, he diss us and u said nothing, he called us broke and yall started laughing? That’s funny?
Yall NY ninjas not like the rest of us. We actually have pride in our race and lineage. We not bout to allow nobody disrespect our legends.
Nah us NY niggas know about infiltration began. The show is full of tethers that’s all.
Fat Joe is one of our legends!! 😂😂😂...And thank god us New Yorkers ain't like the rest of yall. If we were, Hip Hop wouldn't exist!
Those in that room aren't American Freedmen
@@100timessquare with out black Americans hip hop wouldn't exist
@@100timessquare Hip Hop wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for artist like James Brown! Who was from South Carolina!
Lord Jamar was not whack on those Brand Nubian records
He was just as dope as Sadat and Grand Puba
Definitely #3 out of his crew why lie 😅
Lies you tell 😂😂😂😂😂
@@kingme9105 he was not, stop it please
He was just a verse filter of the group 😅
Obviously Puba was the best, but when puba went solo, i did bump in god, we trust more than the reel to reel. If you are real hip hop head, you know what i'm talking about. And joe did too. Punks jump up to get beat down, took over a whole summer. Joe is taking this to a place.He doesn't need to take it to. As you can read the comments, he might have to have a conversation and apologize to lord j. I doubt it, but he should because he just went all the way bad.
Fat Joe got some corporate money now he thinks he can beef with black Americans.😅
No black people let him run wild. The only time Fat Joe is around black people is when it's time to make money. Other than that he surrounds himself with puerto ricans. Constantly using the N-word🤷🏿
What?
Ya be saying anything. sad fr.
@@DomeStik-he2gnyou a stupid tether or somethin??
Well said....he set now so dont care. But guess what? He likes being in the spotlight so being called out by an entire population/community will hurt him. Make him an example,,,,CANCEL
Black people created rap music . Just like rock and roll and jazz and even country and they trying to take that from us too. Ricans did not create shit. If they did it would be in Spanish not English. Just like their music Miranga and all that other shit
I feel like it’s disrespectful to my lineage because I’m a Foundational Black American and if it wasn’t for my ancestors, there would be no hip hop.
It is disrespectful. We are a family we are a lineage and to have this pop goes the weasel mf disrespect us is crazy. Look at the comments fam I’m so proud of us FBA’s. We ain’t letting it slide.
There is no problem with jamaicans but stop lying about orgin no one is not cool with Puerto Ricans it's just the origin that is getting twisted you're from Forrest houses fat joe you know that you're twisting it up . This is sad damn math you truly hurt yourself on this one.
@@tadah21 Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects,
Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School
Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
what the diff from a Jamaican and a Puerto Rican to you?? weirdos in this comment section all eating rice and beans and stew chicken lmao American education has failed you
sounds like you not from the Bronx lol
@garrycamp Forrest houses sounds like you new to the culture but okay you got it. Ask joe about lovebug starski
Sorry Fat Joe is wrong! The “ Breaks “ has been apart of FBA culture musically before the term Hip Hop was coined! Hip Hop comes from the Breaks! As far as Break Dancing the older BX participants said “ Blacks stop Break Dancing around 75-78 during the Disco era and when dudes started rapping on Wax..Puerto Ricans picked up the art form in the late 70s early 80s! They changed the dance form by Breaking off beat and added their flavor but they didn’t create “Breaking” “Rapping”” Fashion” or “The musical scores that are sampled even to this day!” ( The Funk) There are Puerto Rican ( including Joe), legends, in hip-hop but the creation No..
who cares, sounds like you not from the Bronx lol
Joe ant no fkn Legend we taking that,,,, just like he tookit from Jamar... right? Name me a Puerto Rican Legend that helped create Hip Hop? Im really ignorant and need this education....
You can tell he's using the n word in a disrespectful, racist way. I'm over him. The men in the room keep laughing everytime he says it. I think they were uncomfortable.
no he's not. clown.
None of the black men in this entire clip said the n word yet we have the none black saying it 10 plus times & they all just up there giggling 🤔
They all Caribbean not black American
I swear Spanish people say N:66@ more than anybody these days
@@RC-jp6vdFacts they do and it never sounds right!
@@R.Blackstonethese “carribean” men are “black” . See the problem is no matter how hard you try reality keeps getting in the way of y’all’s delusion. African American and Afro Caribbean are the same people.
sounds like you not from the Bronx lol
He up here spreading misinformation
Joey not like us…
And y’all are NOT “Spanish people”, either 😂 Spaniards don’t count you amongst their ranks, STOP IT.
Hell naw!
2:27 Niccas laughing in the back as Joe says that typical rhetoric discerning a black man? “Radical racist”? C’mon fam. He already Latin saying nicca left and right when y’all probably fight if anyone else says it but what’s another topic… yikes
Yeeeaaaaaahhhh let him publicly run his mouth and discredit himself even further. Hip Hop was created by Foundational Black Americans and he is a guest in that house. An unwelcome guest now.
😂😂😂
Why is he disrespecting black Americans?!?! See this is why it’s important for us to delineate from these people who come to America with hatred.
He's talking about the FBA group. He's not talking about us regular black Americans who by the way do not identify as FBA
@ fba is a lineage, it’s not a group. So whether you identify as Fba or not, if your lineage traces back to slavery in America you are indeed FBA.
@@misfittv313He's disrespecting Black Americans throwing the Nword around like he's a Black American. Fat Joe been canceled in my book.
@@willybeeman8468 You are compromised my boy. You are looking at your neighbour as the enemy. Take a deep look.
@@misfittv313
Most of us would say we created hip hop and he would say we're wrong... he's talking about all of us.
FBA and Tariq Nasheed gone have a field day with Fat Joe on Twitter lol
Tariq is a clown he FBA but make money of Haitian documentaries
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952
homie can’t make a historical documentary about Haiti?? It’s all facts. What’s wrong with that?
@ if FBA so great & if all Caribbeans & Africans do us feed off FBA according to Tariq why are you profiting off Haitians & not your FBA community
@@dosumthin01 Nothing about haitian history is facts. Haiti paid for its independence
From afar lol
Now his baby sitters started the fist adlibs 😭😭😭
How is it Racism when people are proud of there culture!! Joe is crazy I can’t jack any Spanish dude saying anything about my people y’all crazy for this in my opinion.
This is why I stopped dealing with math. The fact that he's allowing Joe to disrespect a legend is noticeable. Joe said his brother carried the crates; that's a terrible role to help.
I don't think math is African American. His folks from like Jamaica or somewhere?>
@soundcheck2k7 🎯 At some point, when will we all realize that African Americans need to only stick with African Americans
Dear nyc carribbeans and latinos
1. Rap has been around since the 1920s and 30s in black American music
2. Break dancers at herc first party was black Americans who initiated the black Americans tap dancers. Spinning on the floor has been done in the 1930s.
3. Break Beats kool herc was playing james brown music not reggae which was influenced by black American jazz. James brown music has breaks in it. Herc was playing black American music not carribbean or latino music at his party.
4. Graffiti been around since the 1960s
5. Go listen to pigmeat Markham here comes the judge and who got the number in 1968..all the elements of hip hop exist outside of hip hop. Nyc is just the place to give it a name..hip hip always existed in black American culture. The problem is people are uneducated on hip hop
None of that stuff was hip hop. People were throwing things in baskets before basketball invented. The creation started HERE IN NYC! Hip hop was created by black americans but Caribbean americans played a MAJOR ROLE in the creation.
@@intelligentHoodGenius586 Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects,
Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School
Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
@@LaronWarReadytell him
👀👀...Hip-Hop is actually Jamaican Culture...Kool Herc is Jamaican and just basically had everybody turning up to his own dub-plates. and of course he knew all the cool niggas. he a real rasta. so he put all of them on some tracks. all the cool niggas remember that part. Well Sugar Hill gang was the formula. and just like the Jamaican national phrase goes..."Out of many,One people"... One fist...like Tommie Smith and John Carlos...John looked completely black...but I think know that's not the case
Do not include all Latinos in this one. Direct yourself at Puerto Ricans from New York only. We have nothing to do with this one.
The sad thing is Fat Joke is being disrespectful to ALL Black people, not only FBAs.
Excommunicate this tether once and for all! Him calling FBA broke n words is the nail in the coffin.
Not to mention tried to have us sell out to someone they installed not 1 person voted for her a women who always was Indian but when it came to her running for president and she needed that black vote she turned black , Mexican, Chinese etc she a chameleon just like Obama. The people are waking up and we are tired of these celebrities they need a reality check frfr there’s no them with us.🫡💯💪🏿❤️
@flyyygirl87 I feel you. But why we let him feel comfortable using that in public in the first place? Why check him now? I get it. I watched, and it didn't feel good at all. I actually never like when he says it, but him using it towards a group that's pro Reparations is crazy to me
@ I never liked it myself frfr
But you are broke 😂. He wasn't lying
Puerto Ricans not with us …they just the best at imitating us …before hip hop they was wearing long hair and cowboy boots
@@phillybul215 your not from New York
@ this gotta be a rican …stop copying us smh …
@@Regdollaz456 and u aint black
@@Regdollaz456 I have family from NYC that told me this …
@@phillybul215 look at grandmaster flash he was wearing the same thing
Aw man Tariq bout to have a parade with this one 😂😂😂😂
Fat Joe represents the disrespect Hispanics display all the time ,,, we accept them give them culture & then they turn around & say it was their culture. He’s out of his mind
That’s the first thing I thought 😂 and black authority
Math Hoffa might be a tether he never had Tariq on the podcast…where math family from?
@ idk I think someone said he was Bajan but I don’t think so because what Bajan man calls people from Barbados “Barbadians” so idk I think he might be “black American” 🇺🇸 idk for sure
Nobody in the room was black lettin that man speak like that
And we’re tired of it. Tired of people associating black with skin tone not the black Americans being a linage.
@ facts shit is sad only group of ppl to b divided like that
@@keymikescott2308 I'm not even Spanish or black and I was embarrassed by him using the world like that. Likes he's black. He think because he is from hood he is automatically black.
The n word i mean
New York FBA need to stand up! Where y’all at? Stop letting your brothers revise history.
Im black American all day
Well, I don’t see how your prophet Tariq really helped the streets of LA to get better. He just managed to take some of that inferiority complex y’all got off of your shoulders, but yall still struggling. Tariq lives in the whitest neighborhood in LA and ain’t gonna live next to yall anytime soon 😂😂😂
@@SuperShinobi95you are an “African-American” . “Black” is a color , it is not an identity. “Black” is also an English word. We are not defined by Europeans nor should be divided by them.
Nobody fucks with this FBA Tariq bullshit in real life
Black American here 💯💯💯🫡
Best hip hip documentary out #MicrophoneCheck
Nah Fat Joe is wrong here. A real dialogue needs to be had. No funny business. The issue is this, New York prides itself on being a melting pot, but the Black Americans who were there before any Puerto Rican, or other Black immigrants are the ones who built the foundation. Black Americans embraced everyone and as a result Puerto Ricans, Jamaicans, etc., developed an entitlement to Black American culture to where they are taking credit for creating a culture that is Black American at the root. Nobody said Puerto Ricans didn’t contribute and that Caribbeans didn’t contribute, but give credit to Black Americans for laying the foundation to this culture we call Hip Hop. This is coming from a New Yorker born and raised in Harlem, with family all over the Bronx and parts of Queens. There is a difference between Creation, Contribution, and participation. These words are not interchangeable. We are giving contributors and participants creation credit and that is where the issue is and people not knowing the difference.
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It was Jamaican and puerto rican immigrants in the 1970s that started it
@ This was already proven false. This is why Fat Joe going around lying. Had yall not been out here lying in the first place there wouldn’t have been an issue.
@@chubbywubby90 how when there’s videos in the 1940’s with black Americans doing there thing dancing and rapping-damn it makes no sense for you people to be so ignorant and uneducated DAMN THERE IS SO MUCH PROOF OUT HETE, you just want to be saying shit just to be fan shit get educated. BEAUTIFUL BLACK AMERICANS MADE DSMN NEAR EVERY MUSIC GENRE EVEN HIPHOP. LOLLOL lol LOLLOL lol LOLLOL lol lol
Calling FBA’s broke is wild. So disrespectful. Honor your mother and father or your days will be short on this earth.
Kool Herc is on tape saying he didn't start hip hop and he became Americanize and hip being around Black Americans 🤷🏽♂️
In Jamaica hip hop is called Yankee music. Yardies know it's not from the island
Grow your hair Jose! Show us what you really look like!!
Jose😬😂😭😭
Joey should have never did this! Go watch Microphone Check the documentary! The “”creators of Hip Hop” say that PRs weren’t involved with the creation! You are literally disrespecting the creators! Most American genres of music were invented by FBAs & we suppose to believe the blackest one wasn’t???? 🤦♂️
Get out ya feelings Joe! Give the FBAs the props! Also you can’t give Tariq shine - Tariq is a GLOBAL respected OG out here! Flex been across the finish line! 🫡 💯
Microphone check was completely one sided. He only interviewed people who was pushing that narrative.
@LaronWarReady
I agree! It was one sided! It was the TRUTH side! You 🧢 - ing too! For months Tariq tried to get the so called PR creators to be in the documentary & NONE showed up or volunteered! He was doing TH-cam videos begging them to be involved & they gave him the run around! Yall forget Tariq is a “historian” - you gotta come correct & with facts! His ish ain’t barbershop talk brah! He took trips to NY searching for cats & no one wanted the smoke! 💯
@@emoneybagz8629 Miss me with that nonsense. U believe everything your leader tells you. That documentary is garbage and bias. Only an FBA is gonna subscribe to that trash. He is an educated brother but he has was too much pride and that is gonna be his downfall.
Homie a conquistador. I’m black. I grew up in a black Spanish household of all different color. Can speak as fluent Spanish as anyone, name any food, actually studying Puerto Rican history in college. Black people started hip hop. Hip hop will forever be a black thing.
Just cause all the legends you know are black and Puerto Rican, that doesn’t mean hiphop was created by blacks and Puerto Ricans
U MUST B GEN Z EMO! FUCK OUTTA R!
Exactly, and even the first Puerto Rican Hip Hop dj ( Charlie Chase) said that they didn't help create Hip Hop🤣
@@melanatedwarrior3530 god damn that abe lincoln
Hip-hop isn’t only DJs and rhymes, Puerto Ricans were major parts of breakdance and graffiti crews back in the day that helped build the foundation of this culture. And DJ Disco wiz was the first Puerto Rican DJ not Charlie chase @melanatedwarrior3530
@@lawr8th Lance Taylor (born on April 17, 1957), also known as Afrika Bambaataa (/ˌæfrɪkə bæmˈbɑːtə/), is an American DJ, rapper, and record producer from South Bronx, New York City. He is notable for releasing a series of genre-defining electro tracks in the 1980s that influenced the development of hip hop culture. Afrika Bambaataa is one of the originators of breakbeat DJing. Born Lance Taylor to Jamaican and Barbadian immigrants, Bambaataa grew up in the Bronx River Projects,
Joseph Robert Saddler (born January 1, 1958), known by his stage name Grandmaster Flash, is an American musician and DJ. He created a DJ technique called the Quick Mix Theory. Saddler's family immigrated to the United States from Barbados. He was raised in the Bronx, New York City, where he attended Samuel Gompers High School
Clive Campbell (born April 16, 1955), better known by his stage name DJ Kool Herc, is a Jamaican American DJ who is credited with being one of the founders of hip hop music in the Bronx, New York City, in 1973. Nicknamed the Father of Hip-Hop,
The great migration happened from the south to the north and they brought their culture with them! Kool Herc said he got it from the black Americans on a couple of videos.
What ? Half of nyc is from the Caribbeans if you not from nyc you can’t speak on hip hop
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952ny didnt become like that until the late 90s when fba moved out of that sesspool,pick up a book and learn some history
Bro hip-hop is new york thing bro sorry man
@@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 Facts!!
@@jermainehnbhwalls822 💯
Brah joe is white
If he was white, his name would be pleasantly plump joe .
White skin or Caucasian? Two very different things.
@@Elcapitan91Both. Joe got that pink Spaniard skin. He not Brown like the Taino's were.
@@user-yf4qx5ch9g So not Caucasian? Got it.
@@Elcapitan91 He ain't black american, which is all that matters. Debate the rest with your big head momma.
I'm from NYC and know damn well they didn't start hip hop. They were the first culture to participate. It's crazy how ppl just wamt to jump on the bandwagon of erasing our history. They had freestyle why he not claiming that.
So if the first to create the official techniques that make a Hip Hop DJ a Real Hip Hop Dj are credited by Herc and Flash, who are both Caribbean and not fba culture,
and if the first Mc is credited to Coke La Rock, who is a Jamaican/Caribbean descendant,
and if the first breaking crew that introduced breaking to the whole world is the Puerto Rican crew name The Rock Steady crew,
and by the way, if also the official breaking move patterns was created and credited to the Puerto Rican crews not fba,
and if the most valuable graffiti arts and graffiti artists in the whole world is by Puerto Rican/Haitian, and if the one who invented the movement and even named it Hip Hop is Afrika Bambaataa (Caribbean) and the zulu nation, it clearly means that all the creators of Hip Hop Culture are Caribbean not fba. The facts are there in black and white, so if that’s what the facts shows and prove, how can can fba claim ownership of something that clearly was not created by FBA?
So even when Joe said 50 / 50 he was very generous about it cuz if we actually do the real math about the beginning of Hip Hop , Graffiti, Breaking, DJ, Mc, the math will equal 85% Caribbeans which includes Ricans because Ricans are obviously Caribbean too for those who didn't know that
@SLPGroundSoundMusic Hip hop is derived from the cultural art forms and styles of Black Americans. All those Caribbean dudes you just named came over here and assimilated into our culture. They didn't bring nothing over here culturally from the Caribbean that led to the creation of hip hop.
@@SLPGroundSoundMusic you missing the point dummy …hip hop comes from the other music we created …just let us have our stuff …y’all doing too much …stop acting like it’s based off love too cause y’all hate us too …tired of y’all
@@phillybul215 sdff1. The concept of the "Merry-Go-Round," as invented by Herc, symbolizes the idea of looping or repeating breaks. This technique is fundamental to the identity of a hip-hop DJ. To fully appreciate the significance of Herc's merry-go-round, one must understand that it laid the foundation for breakdancing; without it, both the merry-go-round and the and Breakers, hip-hop culture itself may not have emerged.
2. Flash's Quick Mix Theory represents the evolution of Herc's merry-go-round concept. What distinguishes Flash's approach is his refinement of the merry-go-round technique, integrating scratching as an instrument while manually mixing tracks simultaneously.
3. The original creator of breaking is Spy, a Puerto Rican. who is confirmed by Herc, Crazy Legs and every real breaker / Bboys ! and Spy Himself to be the first Breaker/Bboys that they ever seen.
4. Julio 204 played a pivotal role in establishing the graffiti movement in New York from 1967 to 1970 and was also Puerto Rican.,,, Taki 189 Himself confirm that his inspiration was by seeing Julio 204 Tags all over New York, Which makes Julio 204 the Beginning of the Tagging / Graffiti movement in New York.
5. Coke La Rock himself said that, The work "Jibaro" by The Puerto Rican Felipe Luciano of the Last Poets served as an inspiration for MCing. The Last Poets were comprised of individuals from African and Caribbean backgrounds, not fba
6. Bambaataa was instrumental in unifying the various elements of hip-hop and establishing the movement itself. Analyzing the contributions, it becomes evident that Caribbean artists were key creators and innovators of hip-hop, a statement grounded in factual evidence rather than personal opinions.
Basically, when they say James Brown, or Funk, soul, Jazz, or ect, its all contributions to Hip Hop development, not hip hop creations!
just like Salsa, Mambo, Bolero, plena, bomba or ect, its all contributions of developing the sound, thats all it is, because what was actually invented in Hip Hop was the merry-go-round concept, and the Quick Mix Theory concept, the rest of the art forms are rooted to ancient and medieval civilizations our civilizations just added/Contributed or revolutionized those art forms !!!
Prior to Herc's introduction of the merry-go-round, all DJs were merely playlist DJs; they did not loop breaks in the way that Herc did, which is what defined the hip-hop DJ.
This information is well-documented, supported by published accounts, and validated by hip-hop scholars, pioneers, and participants who were present during these pivotal events. The evidence regarding the key figures who instigated significant changes in hip-hop is indisputable and factual and not based on feelings based opinions and delusional lies..
Black Americans created HipHop!! Y’all ain’t stealing that shit, no matter how many times you tell the lie
DJ Kool Herc is Jamaican.
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Kool Herc became a DJ in 73 hip hop started in 70/71.
Fat joe is 🧢
Hella disrespectful of Fat Joe
Because these black platforms don't check him and they never did.
How can these black men sent there and listen to this guy.
Because they are weak.
Because Joe runs with a crew of some of the biggest gangsters in New York .. ask 50 cent
FBA always show love, but this is just about telling the truth. Others contributed greatly to Hip-Hop, but it was FBA that started it. No hate to anyone.
They just want to colonize the culture then turn around saying that "we got it from them".
So Joe ducked an invitation to talk to Lord Jamar just to get on here and talk shit about him. I know when I see some sucka shit.
@FoxtheSxy FBA been showing love since the jump. That love aint nowhere NEAR being reciprocated
@@stayflykingobviously you don’t know about Joe.
Oh yeah they show love calling Caribbean’s coconuts & how they above all black people & Carribbeans & Puerto Rican started hip hop
Joe, you F up saying that. foundational black authority, lol smh. FBA is a lineage, not a crew or hate group.
Joe tweakin 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ he should’ve left this alone. Lord Jamar is solid and speaks facts in regards to lineage and hip hop history 💯
How do u have hiphop without Jazz, RnB, Funk, Soul, Disco music? Literally every genre black Americans created . Why does no one ever ask Fat Joe this? Who were the PR and Jamaicans who had a hand in creating these? ? Easy answer, none.
He knew not to say Foundational Black Americans
He did tho
No he didn't he said Foundational Black Authorities
@ he knew better
@@darwinashby7368 he didn’t