Petscii Robots - The FINAL Update
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0:00-Intro
1:12-Invitation to VCF Southwest
1:56-The Oric Atmos
3:52-The Enterprise 128
5:00-Print N Play mini arcade
5:24-MS-DOS Version
14:30-Atari 7800
16:33-Super Nintendo
18:07- Game Profits
21:19-Sales for each version
22:52-Tired of doing ports
24:04-Open Source
25:18-Phasing out merchandise sales
26:18-Abandoned ports
28:00-Winning prizes on Twin Galaxies
28:44-Sequel to Petscii Robots
29:47-Sneak preview of X16 manufacturing
Releasing it on Steam (through DOSBox or something) would probably be a way to actually get the game in the hands of a more serious quantity of players who watch these videos casually but don't have the hardware. And that method of sales would have no hardware, logistics, or time costs, while simultaneously having a far larger potential customer base. Consider a Steam release!
@@MidoseitoAkage
GOG would be much more fitting, it's a home for old games and 8-Bit guy has made this game for multiple old platforms. I can imagine a bundle of all of the completed versions being sold at GOG.
@@frozyre7854 Yeah and you not need the app itself to make it work.
Or go all the way and make a native pc version lol, could even be used as a base for modern consoles
Supplant doom as the most ported game ever
That'd be one way, but it feels like he's trying to recreate the entire sensations of the old computer games: The box, the inclusion of extras, etc.
@@frozyre7854 He's not going to do more ports so.... this doesn't make sense to do
Unfortunately labors of love often don't make much money. Your work is amazing and you've added so much to so many retro PC communities. Thank you for your work.
How did you reply 4 days ago?
Why are you commenting 4 days before it’s posted? And why the spoiler?
@@boomfloppatherealone5062 This was probably put up on his Patreon first.
@@EndOfForever i have no money
My ideas never seem to make much money either.
RIP Scott Robison. On his obit, it states "collaborating with other programmers with projects such as the Penske Robots Game for the Commodore 360"
Oh wow, just read that. Someone must have misheard Petscii and just put in a word they knew and mixed up xbox 360 and Commodore.
@@user-yr1uq1qe6y Yep. I chuckled a bit but then felt bad. But had to share.
Didn't know Scott personally but I totally would get a chuckle out of that because that's hilarious.
The correct systems would be the C128 and C64 with a REU
Honestly dude, I would not mind paying $10-15 more per copy if you make a little more. I think the quality and community collaboration you are doing is awesome. You keep this community alive, and I can't thank you enough for it.
@@yellowblanka6058 bro, relax he proved hes barely making anything
I love stuff like this. Fantastic job!
@@yellowblanka6058 How would you know how much effort he put in? Do you have indie game you developed? How much effort did you put in?
It's honestly sad to hear Scott Robinson passed away. The commodore 128 is one of, if not my favorite 8 bit machine, and he was the one who brought a dedicated version of petscii robots to the system. I will never forget how he fulfilled my dream of seeing petscii robots actually being used in the native commodore 128 mode. God bless him.
He kind of proved the C128s gaming capabilities and may well have inspired the Eye of the Beholder team to focus on the C128.
@@danielmantione Agreed
I know it's hard to write while grieving, but I found his obituary and this struck me: "Finishing his degree inspired him to start collaborating with other programmers with projects such as the Penske Robots Game for the Commodore 360 he was rebuilding." Ouch...
@@fuelvolts I would hope whoever writes my obituary gets the name of my work right!
@@nonstopmaximum2141 The end of life procedures have been lagging so far behind how people's lives have changed. There's nothing in place for updating and retiring your online platforms, letting people know, telling all your most obscure friends, even putting a nice cheap online obit up so people can go "what ever happened to ___?" and look it up.
Thank you for all you do for the retrocomputing community.
He complains in every movie, he complains every moment. If something bothers him, he shouldn't do it.
@@nnnnnn3647 Its all down to how you look at the situation. See, for me, I didnt see David complaining, I saw him being honest, and frank... something I personally appreciate. Maybe look at things a little different mate and you wont feel so miserable all the time. Just sayin'
@@mharding1258 I've been watching his videos for some time now and I see growing frustration. It's like he's complaining that the viewers bother him.
@@nnnnnn3647 Right. He even has videos where he complains about people sending him stuff for free.
@@Okurka. The guy has a middle-age burnout problem.
I'm impressed that you got your material costs down to 25 dollars. When I was looking into doing something similar, my materials cost not including the cost of shipping or labor was almost 40. Kudos to you.
David, please know that you need never apologize for anything. You have enriched all of our lives so much with your videos!
Yeah, It makes me sad that he's apologising and all that...
Agreed, why would he be greedy for selling a game he developed? People online can be so stupid.
I completely understand what you’re saying about the merchandise sales. I am really excited to see more historical documentaries in the future!
Me too!
My favorite segments, and you can tell he enjoys doing them too.
7:34: Treating the CGA colours as semi-greyscale is a REALLY wise choice. It's also what used to happen back in the day. A LOT of CGA owners did not have colour monitors, and you're right: Sometimes greyscale looked better.
Agreed. My Compaq Portable 286 looks so good with CGA graphics in green phosphorus. My Portable XT uses an EGA card and it's not that bad, but albeit, the CPU is a bottleneck to a point. If I could OC my Portable XT to 9.16MHz, that would be amazing. I also need to make the internal speaker to work with my Sound Blaster 2.0
TV people !!!!!!
why you cry monitor on Nintendo ??????
Long time viewer, first time commenter here. I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for everything you do, David. Your videos have helped me get through a lot of difficult spots. I don't know how many times I have watched the entire Commodore history series to calm me down after a difficult workday. Your creations have enriched my life, and I'm sure the lives of countless others. Don't let the negativity so common here online get you down. If these changes will help you live a better life, then that's what is really important. And while it saddens me that your merch sales are ending, the prospect that it means more videos sounds like a win-win for everyone. All glory to the -Hypnotoad- 8-Bit Guy!
Well said!
I always wondered if merch was worthwhile for the bigger TH-camrs. Glad to hear you're reinvesting in your documentaries, which are great and the reason I started watching many years ago.
Regular stuff like t-shirts and other branded items are very lucrative, it's how most big TH-camrs get rich. LTT for example makes the majority of their revenue from their store.
@@dingo596 great point! I can also see that David does a lot, if not all of the work himself. LTT has been a FAST growing business, but David chooses to stay small. Also, LTT has about 10x the subscribers of David
Also, Linus used to work for the now-defunct tech retailer NCIX, which allowed him to leverage the company's connections with the major component manufacturers, such as Intel, AMD, ASUS, MSI, Corsair, NZXT, etc., after he parted ways with NCIX.
TH-cam is crap community, you need products for your channel ?
Time traveler ? you took the local train ? What show you run here ?
reinvesting ??? ITS JUST TH-cam, A CHANNEL !
Your trash on the Channel, sell that trash ? Just do a normal webshop please ! Get skills ! how to run a channel !!!!!!
I'm always impressed with how productive you are and the breadth of your talents. I don't blame you for wanting to refocus your efforts on making videos, which I never miss.
Having purchased games from you, I knew you were selling them to cheap. I would have gladly paid two times what you sold it for, maybe three. Don't sell your self short. As others have said, thank you for all you do!
just copy the roms, why you cry money here?
donate the money to Google ? WHY TH-cam ?
You could also add a TH-cam thanks button. That way we could support you in a very easy way as well.
Thanks for all the hard work and effort you put into this project
Why are you commenting 5 days before it’s posted?
@@johnnylongfeather3086patrons get early access
He complains in every movie, he complains every moment. If something bothers him, he shouldn't do it.
@@nnnnnn3647 what?
I appreciate all you do on this channel thanks for the upload 👍
LOVE to hear that more documentaries on the way! Don't forget about the Solar and Home Networking stuff as well, those are really fun projects to see you update us on. Glad to see you refocus your passions rather than completely burning out completely like other TH-camrs. I always consider my patreon money well spent on your channel.
Why are you commenting 2 days before it’s posted?
@@johnnylongfeather3086 he releases his videos 2 or 3 days early for patrons, idk why it says the vid was released 50 minutes tho it’s weird i saw this like 3 days ago
@@petegaming8901 That's how TH-cam works. If you upload a video and set it as unlisted, the moment you (re)list the video, the "upload date" is the moment you set it to listed. EDIT: Added the word you to the second sentence.
I had a Gravis Gamepad as a kid. It came with a little arcade stick you could screw in to the D-pad. Not a bad PC gamepad for that time.
When the 8bit guy says its going to be a long video, i get excited and prepare a pot of tea
I think it only makes sense now to move on from the Planets and the Petsciis and focus solely on the Commander X16 so that it can thrive.
You've done an amazing job for the community.
I definitely appreciate being open about not having interest in physical asset sales and the PETSCII series as a whole anymore. Seeing how much stuff you do behind the scenes as shown in your videos, I was worried that your time is essentially split between videos, programming, getting purchases together and sleep. I’m glad you’re making this announcement/change to help make your life a bit easier and focus more on things you have an active passion for. Keep it up iBookGuy!
Even though I haven't purchased the game, I see this whole game series as a win in the modern times for retro computers and gaming systems. Also, it's regrettable to hear that Scott passed away, but I hope his work lives on, and it inspires others to pursue the passion.
What you have done for the community (speaking for retro gaming in general) has been absolutely astounding. There is nothing but achievements to look at there, and you'll be there awhile doing just that. It's ok to admit you enjoyed the journey but are now ready to close this chapter and move on to the next. Nothing lasts forever and the impact you have created more than speaks for itself. Just look at all the inspiration and enthusiasm you have generated over the years, even from people who don't even own any of this stuff but just enjoy your videos.
It's sad to see this era of Retro gaming end, but look at how many times it ended before only to pop up again. No one thought there would be games released for ANY of these machines in 2023, you have defied all odds and should no guilt about whatever decisions you need to make now. You've give me years of enjoyment just watching your videos and the progression of the passion this community has.
David, please let me be honest with you. I think 'burn-out' is a common feeling right now. Don't apologise. Move on to the next project, by all means.
plus it's annoying when you're making enough money and so adding new work to your pile just isn't worth it. even IF you get it to a place of being profitable, you start going "do I really need more money? It won't be enough to retire on anyway, it'll make no difference in my life."
I second this. Can hear/feel the burnout and weariness over it all. That never leads to good places trust me. Sometimes you got to walk away for your own wellbeing.
@@KairuHakubi , why be ashamed of having another skill, let alone one that you are also good at in your life?
@@paxhumana2015 I think you misunderstood, we're talking about when you're burned out on work, to the point that it doesn't matter if people are giving you money, if they're _giving you more work to do_ it feels like a net loss. Even IF you're making a decent hourly rate, which it sounds like here he isn't.
I bought the MS-DOS download version last week and I love your game! I started to follow your channel pretty much around the time of your first Petscii Robots video and was really excited when I saw this port finally available on your website. Thank you for all the amazing things you do on your channel, both on and off camera! Greetings from Germany.
I took a break from retro games for 2 years and it is amazing to come back to your channel. Now I must buy your games!
1:22 - I can honestly say that I’ve never heard “alumni” pronounced that way before.
Glad to see you're not going to bother with all of the physical sales and ports anymore if they were dragging you down. I came to your channel originally for the documentaries so I'd love to see more of those. I'm interested to see where the commander x16 goes as well.
Dude, a showcase of your genius and the skills and passion of the retro gaming community. With multiple Slurm's McKenzie references and a clip?! What could be better?? Thanks for the great video! Hats off to you sir!
Don't let this make you fed up, mate. I've been in the gaming business for years and it is a hard one. You are amazingly talented and driven and your channel is VERY loved!
It sounds like he has a case of burn-out from being overwhelmed with so many requests for various ports. Also add in his Commander X16 project that's been occupying his time as well. I don't even work in a demanding field such as game development and I am all too familiar with burn--out when it comes to doing the same task all day everyday. It gets very tiring and you want to do something else to break up the tedium of it all.
It also doesn't help that he doesn't get to turn a profit from all of his hard work. So his frustration understandable. I hope he's able to profit from his Commander X16 when he has a few of them ready for sale. :)
I 100% love you being totally serious about the financials.
It brings your whole project to a new light. I very much respect all of your hard work that is not financially bringing a return
If I buy the game and also want to donate your work fairly, how much would I have to pay? I live in Germany. I couldn't live with the fact that you are taking a loss for your great work. People like you are infinitely important to the retro computing scene.
Keep it up and may the 8-bit gods be with you!
I just checked and the shipping prices (Europe) have increased to $25 so you can feel less guilty.
I'm guessing there's a way to do a one-time donation on Patreon? And I'm pretty sure he has a patreon I'd be shocked if he didn't.
I paid extra for the signed version. I figured that money goes straight to him.
I'm in the same boat. I just bought the Amiga and SNES versions as downloads to run on my Gotek-powered A500 and in an emulator, respectively. I figured that'd make up for it.
The sad irony is if these games came out in the era the computers they ran on were popular, they'd have been worth millions. D:
Yeah I dont have a machine that can run this game. But I can tell you as a kid I would have begged my parents to buy this
@@TheHomelessNinja i mean all the ports are open source, all you have to do is pick the version you wanna play, get the right emulator then play it lmao.
not that difficult
I am so sorry to hear about your friend. And your videos have been both entertaining and informative, and I've learned quite a bit from them --- they certainly filled in a gap about something I wanted to learn about when I was a teenager and a young adult when I saw all those computers from the late 70s through the whole 80s, but I never really could because my family (and later on I) couldn't afford a computer back then. So I thank you for all the work you've put into making them.
Awesome! I really enjoy playing Planet X3 on my DOS machine. Look forward to playing Petscii Robots! Surprising to learn of your margins. You could sell this for much more. Most of us in the retro game scene are willing to spend some dough on this hobby.
Might be selfish of me to say, but if that means you'll be making more videos again, I'm happy to hear this.
Oh my god, I had no idea you were making so little profit on physical game sales! Your dedication to the craft is admirable. I'll admit I'm an Australian who bought physicals to support you. I absolutely agree with charging us whatever it costs you for shipping, though I'm confused how it costs so much.
I've said it before, but I reckon you should outsource production & shipping of the physical games. Though with shipping from the US being so expensive, maybe it'd be good to do it in China - shipping from there is ridiculously cheap (I heard the Chinese government subsidises it?), and labour is cheap too.
I'd also suggest providing a price breakdown on each product listing in the store to show buyers how little of the price is profit and how much labour is required. And add a name your price / extra donation option for those who are buying primarily to support you.
Why are you commenting before it’s posted? And why the spoiler?
@Johnny Longfeather don't read the comments before watching then lol. Besides, this is a TH-cam video, not Avengers Infinity War
Postage out of the US is a greater mystery than posting TO US (From Europe I always send surface mail which is cheaper ) It really depends on what postage services can be found for the size/weight combinations. And that is before declaring the international tariff code and dealing with import and sales duties in the arriving country
oof, china.. kinda have their fingers in enough pies already yknow
This was an extremely interesting series of videos, to see the process behind such a project. Even when sales are stopped the value provided by this TH-cam series remains. Thanks!
I must admit, I always wondered whether there would ever be a port for the Macintosh line of computers (since I only have two Vintage Machines, a 1988 Mac Plus and a 1982 Sharp MZ80 A, and I know which one is more well known, that and the 80A isn't working at the moment... anyway).
But when it comes to plans and projects, it's always a good idea to know when to stop especially when said project is 3 years down the line and has made very little profit. I have watched your videos for well over 5 years, which makes this 19 year old feel old, and I have seen you pour your heart and soul into every project you've undertaken and video you've posted. What you have done for the retro / vintage computing community is simply beyond words and I speak on behalf of all us computer enthusaists that people like you are what keep the community alive and thriving. Keep it up, know when to take breaks and always do what you feel like doing.
SNES version is stunning! Great work man, great work.
Super excited for the X16 video!!! honestly I think Petscii Robots has been quite unfairly criticized from the community. From complaints about it being brought up to much in videos to people just being rude. I think you did the best job that could be asked and since burnout didn't seem to strike real hard until years later, its obvious how much love has been put into it. I don't own any of the systems it can be played on but I love the videos of development. Makes me feel like I witnessed a game development cycle that hasn't been done since the 80's, like witnessing a bit of history which is super cool. Good luck with these endeavors fellow Texan!
Great job as always. And you deserve all the kudos in the world for open sourcing things and allowing others to run with it (like producing NES cartridges). It really shows how much you care about the community
The concept of a mouse-operated version of a "Planet X#" game is very appealing to me. I'd be very interested in playing that on steam, as it would remind me of the early 90's pc gaming i grew up with.
I can't wait to hear more about the Commander X16. It's a crying shame you didn't make as much of a success off of Petscii Robots and its various ports as you did Planet X2 and X3, but I'm reminded that for every success an indie developer has, they're expected to have a failure or two to balance it out. I'm planning by my next paycheck to buy a digital copy of the Robots Genesis port to show my thanks and support, but I do want to thank you for giving such an ambitious game dev project a sporting try. As far as I'm concerned you've succeeded in my heart, dude.
That's the one thing I don't get is why he didn't just do digital only from the beginning. It would be all profit without any time or extra expenses
"I can't wait to hear more about the Commander X16."
There certainly was a lot unpacked in this video, and you certainly have my respect in how much enthusiasm and dedication you've had for the retro computing/gaming community for years. I understand that there is a point where it gets a bit much, but I am glad you've managed to make such great projects come alive at all. Please do focus on what you feel is most important in your life. :)
I happily own physical copies of Planet X2 and Planet X3 along with PETSCII Robots for the Sega Genesis. I've literally just placed an order for MS-DOS, Commodore 64, and the Super Nintendo because I think the game is great, I like multiple versions of a game on multiple systems I own, and to help give you my support.
The NES port would certainly have been awesome, but I get where you're coming from and I certainly wish you the best!
Greetings from Plano! Seeing your videos always reminds me of the first computer I ever used, which was a Tandy CoCo 2 that I found in my grandmother's storage room. Tried programming BASIC on it for hours with a black and white TV at the age of 8. Such fun times. If only I had games for it or knew more. Thank you for continuing to provide amazing content on the early computers!
As someone that lives in New Zealand and picked up both games to play on my collection of PC hoarders paradise, thanks for selling it internationally! I had no idea that you were selling the products out of your pocket. And hope that some of that comes back to you over time! Also good to hear your going to focus on some other stuff, go and have some fun!
Thank you for the video and the game!
I love these long videos, they are so well made, times goes fast watching them. You did an amazing job with Petscii Robots, the fact that there are that many ports shows how people are attracted and interested by it. I do understand that you can get tired of the project, mainly after spending that much time on it, thank you for releasing it in open-source too!
Do you plan on releasing the source code for one of the Z80 platform?
Regarding your will to do historical/documentary videos like before, I admit I really liked them, I would love to see new ones in the future!
Watched this video with a smile on my face. I'm probably never going to play it but hearing your dorky ramblings on it, and seeing that random people would just take your game and lovingly ported it is heartwarming. I loved this saga.
Petscii Robots was a great project. Hope to see new games from you in the future. However, an idea of you making more videos makes me even happier. Keep it up!
Hey David, I have been following your channel for some time and I enjoyed almost every video about retro computers and of course the petscii robots game development. I totally agree with you and the phasing out of the merchandising. You have accomplished design, development, and porting to different systems.. this is really an unique experience and I would like to thank you for sharing the secrets behind the scenes from the hard work and dedication of doing it. Cheer up and move on to something that motivates you.
Your efforts were monumental and your passion is awe inspiring. Keep on keeping on however you see fit 👍
Don't go to the burn out, David!
You're not the 8 bit guy, you're the Amazing 8 bit guy! All the creation stuff you've done and doing is simply incredible!
Secret it, he's actually 7 bits plus pairity.
Seeing how passionate you are with your work is inspiring and keeps pushing me through all the self-defeating thoughts hindering my personal goals in vintage hardware enthusiasm/revitalization! Thank you for your quality content, man!
Ive been watching and following your projects for years David, I know how hard it is to devote so much time to not only programming these games, but the logistics of actually making them a reality. I for one sincerely appreciate what youve done for the retro computing community and look forward to the Commander X16 launch and all other future endeavors.
Good call prioritizing your mental health and time by phasing out merchandise. Box sets are incredibly time-consuming and I’m amazed you’ve been able to do as many releases as you have!
I will just add my voice to the chorus of people thanking you for everything you do.
Hey! We love what you do for the retro gaming community! It's understandable being overwhelmed at some point. Some ups and downs on this episode. However it's always awesome to witness what you achieved and that you are straightforward about stuff. Thank you for all your work!
It's weird seeing computers I heard of when I was a kid, like the Oric, alongside computers I had no idea existed, like the Enterprise. When I was a kid, information flowed in mysterious ways! Or, to be more realistic, what I heard was basically second-hand marketing; I just heard what other kids had read and seen pictures of. I _might_ have heard of a computer with a joystick built in though.
Sorry to hear you weren't reaping the rewards of your hard work. I would've happily paid more if I knew this was the case, though I know some others would be unable to.
The idea that floppy disks are about to be dead and lost to history... that's sad. Such fond memories.
I remember buying floppy disks at my local grocery store to carrying them with me to download cheat codes, anime artwork, small games, etc. that I needed to splice in multiple parts with winrar just to be able to carry them from the Internet café back to home in multiple floppy disks back in the Win2000/XP era untill my father gave us a 1gb Kingstone USB pendrive that was like an adult's index finger in size, it was unbelievable the amount of flash games, videos, music and images that I could carry back then, now my pedestrian 500gb hdd can barely handle the operating system and a few games within its silicon plates, gonna need a better computer though.
Couldn’t someone start a company that produces them and sells them at 2x the „normal“ price? Or is there no demand anymore for floppy disks to make it profitable?
@@zombi1034 manufacturing them at scale is not trivial. it's the same with cassette tapes, the only ones that are still around are surplus stock. manufacturing more would require such a massive upfront investment that whatever niche interest there is can't justify the cost
How are they about to be dead, let alone lost to history? 90% of the 1,000 or so diskettes I've got around here work just fine. Floppy drives are still cheap and abundant...
The 720k ones.
Which were crap even back in the day. We couldn't get rid of our 720k drives fast enough for 1.44Mb ones.
You may not believe it 8-bit guy but you are an inspiration for many people. Of course there are the big corporates developing games and hardware, but that you and essentially a group of friends pull this is off is fantastic.
I am amazed of your patience with selling all this different ports and boxes, even at a loss.
I'm excited to hear that there may be more computer history videos coming up. I hope some of those will include restoration videos.
I think the correct move is to make sure whatever you're doing remains fun. Enjoyment is the wellspring from which all this content flows. So props for making some tough choices!
This is such a great video David! I loved the commentary about your operating / manufacturing costs at the end.
Thanks for the update video. I makes sense to reduce stress and refocus on what you enjoy. You have done a lot for the retro gaming and computing community.
Waiting for Billy Mitchell to send in speed runs... please don't sue me, Billy...
For what you're actually getting, $35 is peanuts for such an awesome package. Good on you, man. You rule.
I have been following you for so long now, and have always said you are the most genuine person I've seen online please keep up the good work and I look forward to all your future projects 😁
Thank you for the in depth update. Enjoy your time refocusing on what you love. We appreciate you
There's no shame in ending a project; you accomplished much and gave the retro community something new to stare and click on. Cheers.
Love how much you do for the community. Now that I've got my C64 up and running, I'll be purchasing a copy of Petscii robots and x2 for the c64 (I'm in the US, so hopefully you'll make some money :)) I also can't wait to get an X16! Very interested in the video on the manufacturing process.
I love the honesty, and the peek behind the curtain is a really valuable resource for people who might choose a similar path. But it's also a nice human reminder that it's a job that required work, someone has to do it, and it wasn't free. I'm glad you updated your shipping though!
It seems there were quite a few things that needed being said, and I certainly like the idea of you refocusing on your channel and projects like the X16.
Thank you ! 🙂
The work that you have done with your projects are insane David. The amount of dedication and love are noticible. The comunity owe you a lot !
Love how transparent you are with everything. Great content like always.
Haha, I like how Bruce is reminiscent of the McClane sprite in Die Hard NES
Happy to support your efforts, great to see there's a market for creators and hobbyists in this sector. Can definitely see the care and effort that goes into these products
Maybe instead of removing physical sales just raise prices to the level you're going to be happy with. I'd rather the option be available but expensive than not available at all. Having physical copies is such a cool thing.
It is very cool. And...he is making more $ than he hints at. Me, and more than 3,000 others support him on Patreon to make stuff. That has to be accounted for when talks about $
This is very minor, but I can’t help but notice a few of the EGA palette assignments were made based on trying to get “close enough” to a colour in isolation, when substituting the overall function may have worked better. That probably needs a bit of application of colour theory though.
Eg the sky blue could have probably been mapped to one of the turquoises, and darker shades are often less fussed about their specific hue (a dark blue can often be better substituted with a dark grey or even a dark red than a lighter blue). I also find the dark turquoise being “medium grey” looks strange when there’s an unused lighter grey in the diagram, in that context the lack of hue may have been more important than the shade.
Of course this is all just speculation from the video, there’s always a balance to be struck. And I assume you tested other palette mappings before settling on this one.
I noticed some of the other ports like the SNES version were slightly more liberal with their palette map to make it work and I did think that looked a bit more cohesive. Eg the guy’s shirt is cyan instead of royal blue, so he’s not the same colour as the floor tiles.
Anyway, I reiterate my opening sentiment - this is very minor. It’s definitely not worth the extra labour to change given what you said in the rest of the video, but I feel as a colour nerd it’s gotta be said anyway. Depending on how it’s programmed (I’m guessing a 16-value table from palette number x to palette number y) maybe that’s a thing someone can do with the open source if they care.
From Wikipedia: "EGA produces a display of up to 16 colors (using a fixed palette, or one selected from a gamut of 64 colors (6-bit RGB), depending on mode)" I think there is still room for improvement...
Truthfully, EGA graphics have aged surprisingly better than first generation VGA graphics. First generation VGA graphics already looked extremely dated by the time the second generation came out
This video scared the CRAP out of me. From 12:20 to 12:26 there is a shadow over the image that moves across the screen. I'm watching at home alone at night, and it looked just like it was a shadow on my OWN monitor of someone moving behind me LOL. On a more serious note - what a great service you have provided to the community with your wonderful talents. Great job with all of it, congrats, and best wishes.
I live in the EU and I just got the signed Commodore collection as a birthday present from my kids and wife. What an amazing gift! Stunning presentation: Beautiful sturdy box, shiny stickers on it, all full-color manuals for each version one, all floppy's with custom stickers, the Petscii keychain, GREAT game and.. of course... your autograph ! Love it! It all shows you are a perfectionist with love for this game and these systems. I hope that when your energy returns, you will look back with satisfaction on all your efforts and then truly understand that this is a milestone in your life. Your efforts are GREATLY appreciated not only by me but by a global community. Thank you so much :-)
Warm regards from the Netherlands!
Knowing when to say "when" with labors of love can be the most challenging part. I know the numbers might not feel the part, but as a game developer I totally feel ya and salute you for what you and the various contributors you've worked with have accomplished on the game. Love my Genesis copy, and I guess I'm all the more glad I was privileged enough to purchase it directly from you in person!
David, your Slurms Mckenzie analogy is spot on for describing being tired on too much of a good thing.. 😅
Would have also accepted having too much Snoo Snoo
Thank you for all your work, and I'm glad you're gonna be back to making more videos, that's what most of us enjoy from your content.
I had a feeling it was a bit of a loss making exercise so when I ordered mine, I made sure to pay a bit more and get the signed version and bought a few in the same box. I hope it helped a little bit. Try not to be blown over by the negatives you're experiencing David. You've made some insanely great games for these old systems. I've got X2, X3 and Petscii robots sitting right beside me just now and am planning on having a play this afternoon on my amiga :)
@ James's petsky robot shaped arcade machine: What a lovely example for the dedication of your channel's community! Its a pleasure to behold!
Never feel embarrassed about making money on something, that you deserve to do! You definitely deserve to get a paycheck for all you have done! ❤
Truly said, how are you doing?
just copy the roms, why you cry money on TH-cam ?
donate it to TH-cam ??????
I hope he makes a version for handhelds such as GB/GBC, Sega Game Gear, Wonderswan, Lynx, Gameboy Advance and even Nintendo DS
I subscribe to roughly 50 or so different channels and this is by far my favorite one. While I understand there is a lot of work that goes into these videos, I wish you could release them more often than you do today.
I seem to like this game from its look! Well done, David! Also, I have to admit that I am in love with the PETSCII Robots soundtrack! Well done, Anders!
Honestly? What you've done for the retro PC gaming community is absolutely nothing short of miraculous. Hats off to you, David. I've been a silent watcher of your channel for years now. I never had a big interest in retro computers before I found your videos and I've absolutely loved every one I've watched (most multiple times at this point). Your passion for the topic is infectious. Looking forward to seeing more content from you in the future as you shift focuses! Keep up the amazing work!
I think you’d be surprised how popular the NES cartridge version would be with NES collectors.
But imagine how valuable it would be if it never gets released and only a few rare prototype cartridges would eventually circulate in the wild and show up from time to time. :)
Never underestimate the completionist mindset
Gotta collect 'em all!
@@dynagoat7374 This is true. I used to collect records like that and then I changed it so I collect all the tracks in the best format. I avoid tape and vinyl. Vinyl if no other way…
Very true. The only computer/console in the 8-Bit Guy's list I have is the NES, and I don't really have that much enthusiasm for the Genesis and SNES (or the space for a whole new retro PC just for one game). So, I've been waiting for the NES port since it was first talked about on this channel. Disappointing that it may not continue, but I hope someone picks this project up in the future.
David, thank you so much for all your videos. I think it’s awesome All the work that you’ve put into your video games. Sounds like you’re making the right decision focusing your attention on more history TH-cam videos. It’s not an overstatement to say is it your TH-cam channel has contributed to a spark of a revolution in the retro video gaming community. you’ve inspired me to take on computer projects of my own, I can confidently say yours is my favorite TH-cam channel. Please keep up the good work and high quality videos.😊👍
I loved your history videos you did with the tech from Texas series, please do more of those, definitely some of my favorite videos :)
I appreciate your honesty, you work you butt off and are really fair considering you're chipping in to send happiness to people.
With the game being made open source, there's a chance that it could be ported to ridiculous devices, like on what happened to DOOM.
Petscii robots ported to doom would be interesting 😄
@@turbinegraphics16 I was more referring to Petscii robots being ported to fridges, microwaves, iPods, graphic calculators and pregnancy tests, but somehow porting petscii robots into doom would be quite an achivement
Thanks for all these great videos and especially because you do it because your a true fan of retro tech.
Took note of your observations here, was sure to get the "Autographed" version this time to avoid doubt ;) (last time I figure I'd prefer an unobscured box art, but I dislike the idea I might have cost you 10 dollars on previous purchases). I have a suggestion for you though! Add a "tip" or "donation" option to your checkout screen? We all love that your making these videos AND great and collectable game gems (a fun game to boot) and feel certain none of us want you getting a decent reward for your works.
All the best! Hope you will keep enjoying making content for a long time to come.
Oh, real condolences on the unexpected loss of a friend, very sad. Though, a little less sad knowing the project he worked on is will be well loved by many and a great legacy :).
Thank you for the different ports!
I was impressed by the Oric port, because I know how capable yet limited that system is. It has 8 colors that can freely be used as background/foreground (a huge deal for that time), but they are set per line. You can switch them in line, but the place of switching contain no pixels. Pretty much what happens when a tile map is 1 byte so you have attributes or pixels(tile index).
A fun fact, Oric was created in Britain, but was much more popular in France and later in Eastern Europe (clones) even Brazil.
I'm sorry to hear that all the ports took the fun out of the project for you. Thanks for all the work you put in ❤