World's First | Tailstock Gearbox Machining | Lion Lathe Restoration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- Let's build the world's first Aftermarket 2-Speed Tailstock Gearbox. We are crazy and we know it. Enjoy watching 500gb of footage crammed into 32 min of solid action!
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The machining brings back memories I was a Tool & Die Maker for 35 years. Always great to see inventors at work. Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much
Striving to make a project the best you can is how we all learn and improve. This'll be something to be proud of.
100% agreed
Nice job! I have a suggestion which I learned myself. Really simple stuff can be made without mistakes going along. If it get's a little more complicated, as your gearbox certainly is, it really pays to make a plan in CAD or an reasonable accurate sketch by hand before start. I know it's an extra effort, but it pays of when you make stuff. Ideally you only have to handle/machine a part once and when assembled you're done. Off course tweaking is always a part of the process but adding length to already cut plates doesn't have to happen when you work like this. I'm a designer/builder for 28 years now and I learned the hard way. Get an idea, make a drawing and select all the materials you need when doing so. Make simple drawings to print (or draw) for the parts to be made. Make the parts, assemble and be happy. Hallelujah! Thank you for sharing your honest journey! Best! Job, the Netherlands
Thanks for the feedback. I know it to be true. I just didn’t know how to use cad at the time. Learning the program was on my goal list for this year and I started this project last year in October. I’m already knee-deep and using fusion 360 as we speak.
Very nice work Kyle.
The design, weldments, fit and finish.
Outstanding work.👍👍💯
Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it Ed.
Ok,you just upped your badassery eleventeen percent! please paint this a off the wall color!! we need a double thumbs up button!
lol no crazy color just white but it will not disappoint I promise
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair White is cool,saw a Monarch over the top resto painted white. good choice
This is so cool. I love the idea of retrofitting. Nice work, but I wouldn't expect anything else!
Thanks Greg
Great project; we don't see this level of work very often. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
Thanks
I have enjoyed your rebuild, looking forward to more.
More to come! Lots more
Fantastic build, enjoyed the process. 🐞
Thank you
Wow what a great video, some amazing machining. I love that you show your "errors"
Thank you very much!
adam booth, take notes on content creation for projects! this is awesome stuff! I enjoy every one of these videos!
Appreciate that man. Thanks
That's looking Awesome Great job
Thanks
If there is such a thing as re-incarnation I want to come back as a machine shop. Thank you sir for sharing.
Absolutely
wow wow wow...great footage, love the down the spindle bore shot on the Kearny Trecker at 14.44......
Yeah it’s a great shot
Nice work on an interesting project. You have a knack for editing your video. Good story telling.
Thank you very much!
19:20 .. That looks REALLY good so far!!!!
Thank you
Great video! Subscribed! Waiting on part 2.
Thanks for the sub! Part two Saturday
Outstanding work....
Many thanks!
Looks good you don’t mind putting the extra work in to get it right 👍👍👍
Agreed
good job 👏🏻
excited to see post two
Absolutely
That is a great improvement to the tailstock.
Indeed
That finishing pass with the fly cutter 🙌
Yeah
Smooth!
My Ikegai A-20 came with a 2 speed tail stock, comes in handy for drilling big holes!
I bet
Great job! I have a stock lathe with 2 speed tailstock - Huichon 5. Two speed is very useful when you have to drill large diameter.
Good that’s my hope in adding this one
That's a good lesson to be learned always make some kind of blueprint 😊😊
Yes indeed!
Nice job! That's a factory feature on most Kingston Lathes. They give you selectable 1:1 or 5:1 ratios. Very handy feature to have! I use it quite often.
Yes indeed. Lots of nicer lathes have them
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair even the Taiwanese stuff is come with it these days
@@elanjacobs1 true
Fun fact: The North Korean lathe "Kusson 3" also has two speeds in the tailstock: 1:1 and 1:5.)
@@eachday5705 very nice
Olá amigo que maravilha de trabalho!!!
Acompanhando, abraço e boa sorte sempre!!!
Thank you
Nice work, you are a braver man than me designing something like that on the fly.
Looks like it is working for you though.
I like your filming style, saves me skipping ahead while people take measurements and tell me how many extra thou's they are going to take off.
Absolutely thanks
Love it! Need one for my G0602 ;)
Thanks
Worlds first is a little stretch here. My Lathe at work has a selector for direct drive or a 1:5 reduction on the tailstock. That machine is from 1998 !
2 speed tailstock are extremely common. What I have never seen before is someone adding a legit one to an existing unit. That is the first. If you have proof of someone else doing this send the evidence my way!
Pretty.
Thanks
I own an old herbert no.2d turret lathe, it was a tail stock auto feed with 3 rates of feed ran off of the saddle feed, not much variety but you dont really need 50 different speeds for drilling. An old lathe but a beast
Wow that’s cool
Impressive!
Thank you
Curtis at Cutting Edge Engineering Australia needs one of these
Yeah
12:50 That rubber work mat in this shot, is fairly expensive! .. I made an apartment in my house with a closet turned into a tiny toilet and shower! :) ...
I used this rubber mat stuff for flooring! ... VERY slip resistant and with the 1/2" X 2" Plastic baseboard, and generous use of silicone sealer?? It made the little washroom floor 100% water tight!
Very nice
Hahaha “it’s about to get really boring in here at the boring” but really…this is an awesome rebuild. What a cool idea.
Thanks
Holy Smokes 19:19........that is Art my Friend.........very tasteful and beautiful.....
I don't know much about art, but it would look great with my carpet, drapes and furniture........
Seriously, do you have a background in art, because the video you shoot and capture and
this or of attention to design and detail sure makes it look that way......Best Wishes from Florida, Paulie
No I don’t just ocd. Never picked up a camera before TH-cam. All self taught on pretty much every skill I got. Took a few college classes in welding and automotive but other than that I am 95% self taught.
Thanks for using a soft hammer this time!
lol. This video was filmed on October. I got them you’ll see me use them sometimes. Sometimes you won’t. Such is life
Excellent Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Great cool good things
Awesome
Finally someone who is actually roughing with their lathe and not babying it. Healthy feed, speed, depth of cut.
What depth of cut did you take? 4mm? 5mm?
Exactly .250
Good stuff. That bandsaw was frigging flying though. I’d change the speed on it and it should be able to get through 4130 no issues. I cut alot of inconel with surface speed of about 60 feet per minute.
Yeah probably
Several older lathes had two speed tailstocks. Axelson and monarch too I think had that option. But not on small lathes.
Very cool good to know
Wow! You are knocking this one out of the park. Was that a Suburban Tools fly cutter you were using?
Yes it was!
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Sweet. I have been eyeing one. Worth the money?
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 yeah it is. Honestly you can also make a good one it’s nothing special from an engineering point of view but it is the nicest premade one there is. I have all the different bar sizes. Rigidity is the key to success though. I use it on the bp mostly with the shorter bar. It works well but is less effective as you go bigger on diameter just w vibration. On the k&t it’s like cheating, so ridged, basically perfect finish every time insert is not damaged.
I've never seen a Power Feed tilstock .. it would be handy for drilling!
Indeed it will be
Would like some more info maybe a video on your HBM. Never seen a Mikwaukee HBM.
I’ll get to it. no Milwaukee hbm your seeing a 4H but I have a Lucas hbm
Please tell me your welding jig was an old, no longer used mill table.
A thin layer of MIG nozzle gel will save or minimize cleaning up any welding oopsies on the mill table.
Nice looking fab job...
Yes it’s an old boring mill table
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Whew!! Had me stressin' for a minute, there... LOL
bravoo
Thanks
Hell yeh
Are you going to get as in depth with that Lucas HBM you mentioned in that update vidya as you are with the Lion? Because this series has been amazing
No lol. I wish. Maybe… but probably not this project is 2 years long maybe 2.5. I can’t have my hbm down for 3-4 years I need it to start paying for itself but you know me even cleaning it up will get some upgrades and fixes done just have to set a deadline so I can actually get it running in a reasonable time.
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair alright that is pretty fair
31:31 is that a Suburban Tool fly cutter you are using ?
Yes it is o highly recommend
That is no normal roughing end mill. That is a wave-cut/crest-cut end mill. Somewhat rare these days, but really good. Nice to see one!
Absolutely thanks for letting me know got it cheap looked cool
@@VanoverMachineAndRepairTheir sinusoidal flute profile helps reduce cutting force but in theory should still leave a smooth finish. Weldon marketed/markets these as great for titanium and exotic alloys. Should also reduce chance for chatter considerably.
@@romanvarcolac2238 great to know yeah I think it was Weldon or another w brand
I’ve been considering doing the same to my koping
It’s a bunch of work but I am sure will be well worth it
I enjoyed the video and the machining, but even after watching the beginning several times, I still missed the reason why you want a 2 speed gearbox. Is it that sometimes it does not go the full distance fast enough, or you want to be able to go in slower sometimes for delicate drilling? Maybe it is me and just missing the explanation. Hopefully someone can enlighten me so the reason matches the fun video of machining. :)
It just adds more capabilities. On most nicer machines they have two speed tailstocks especially on bigger machines. Fast speed helps bring quill in and out quick where as low speed reduces input torque required on handle for big drills
Many lathes come with gearboxed tailstocks its nothing new or groundbreaking ?
Your right. What is ground breaking is adding one to a tailstock that doesn’t have one. How many people you seen do that?
@ 25:50, don't we all wish we could mill like that with a manual mill?
Yeah lol
16:45 that looks like a Skicut end mill, Putnam maybe ????
Maybe bought it cheap on eBay
We have a lathe that has a built in box like this. I can push a 2” twist drill like nothing.
Awesome looking forward to it
22:22 Darn Engineers are always making design changes after you already made the part.....
Great Modification........D.E.S.S.A, [Darn Engineers Society Seal of Approval]
Thank you very much
good job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Use coolant or oil on those big drills. You'll cook them in no time otherwise.
Yes I am aware
Why not Vee the plate before assembly/welding?
You can do both. V after helps cut into old welds to ensure through penetration. I do both
My tailstock got 10 speed Allison automatic transmission... :D :D
Very nice. That a good one
Im all for it but is it really necessary?
Is excellence ever necessary.
0:18 is that massive straight edge or are you happy to see me?
Both
What is the purpose of such a tailstock gearing?
High range for speed low for torque
Are you no longer using any thrust bearing for the screw to case, as was originally designed? You do not want to have axial load on plain bearings…which is what it looks like you are using. Maybe you just haven’t showed us the full plan yet.
Yeah both bearings thrust and radial
All the lathes that I run have a 2 speed gear box from the factory
Excellent. Many lathes have two speed gear boxes. the newer lions come with them as well so I really wanted to add one to mine to bring into the newer style.
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair yeah it’s a handy feature to have when you need it…… but nice build looks good 👍🏻
@@user-xo5vw9gk3x thanks
nice. nothing new about a two speed tailstock, in my 33 years as a Tool and Die Maker, I've used two engine lathes that had this feature.
Your right. What is new is adding it to a pre existing single speed unit
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair the last one was a sharp brand and you had to get it just right to work properly. I like yours more... :)
@@yelims20 thanks
I always buy new but if you had restored a piece of machinery/equipment I would change and not hesitate to buy used from you. Ray Stormont
Really appreciate it ray it would be so expensive lol
WHY DO THEY APPLY BLUE INK OF THE SURFACE
Help see scratch pass easier
Our old lathe in the firm has a speedbox in it, so its not the world first xD
A two speed tailstock is not worlds first adding one to none existing one is.
Ok
👍
Isn't every video a dramatic recreation of past events?
Yes
You very rarely use and lube or coolant - WHY
My lathes are not set up for coolant. This new lathe will be. I got brand new oil set up and k&t but it’s such a mess. Mostly it makes a mess and it’s makes it hard to see on video.
I like that you're building something useful and interesting, but I don't think this is worlds first :) There are engine lathes that ship with 2 or 3 speed tailstock gearbox, primarily to help with drilling operations.
Worlds First implementation from single speed. Many lathes have two speed. Never seen anyone add one.
You don’t wear rings in a machine shop! Even a novice knows this !
Safety police!
Too crappy to be usefully
Your absolutely right