I was literally just about to comment that. The difference is the Jews who have been displaced, enslaved, fled and moved assimilated into the countries they ended up in and become successful and prosperous.
Hundreds of thousands of Jews forced out of their homes for the 'crime' of having the same religion and heritage as the zionists. No one cared simply because they were Jews while also telling the world it has nothing to do with anti-semitism.
Exactly. These people don’t know basic history or facts yet have the audacity to tell others to educate themselves. Look in the mirror. 🇮🇱 people were in the land way before.
It's mythology the bible not real history ben don't have a clue Jewish do not pre date the Palestinians in them lands they was there a good 1000 years before Abraham ever arrived
@@THEDOGFATHERL11 No, the bible is not mythology; and you have no evidence to prove your statement true. However I do have evidence to back up my statement, action. Do what God says to do and you will see by way of action that it is true, just like when you do math in college or anywhere on earth; do your math and find out instead of being that student that does nothing but accuses the teacher.
@@THEDOGFATHERL11😂😂😂😂 wow wow wow, so un educated...bruh, google is free, ya don't need the bible...FAIL! Arabs are from Arabia, not too difficult now...repeat after me....Arab....Arabia...ok once again, Arab....Arabia.....Greeks....from greece....italians....from Italy....jews...from judah 👊
These people complaining have nothing to do with the land. It’s not their business, I don’t see why anyone even pays any attention to them. In 1948 when Israel officially became a country again, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled, never to return. It’s time Israel does the same.
@thatguy3468 You’re the same clown who I debated in a Corey Gil Shuster video, in which you haven’t replied in 5 days🤡 Yes, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled. It’s not like Chinese people came to Saudi Arabia and kicked out the Arabs. That’s exactly what Israel did! A bunch of people from a different continent come in and kick out the native population. And when you said “In 1948 when Israel became an official country again” tf what? Wdym? The Kingdom of Israel was made in the IRON AGE, 3000 years ago! They are not native to Israel. They are native to Egypt (where Moses lived) or Iraq (where Abraham was born.
@thatguy3468 You’re the same clown who I debated in a Corey Gil Shuster video, in which you haven’t replied in 5 days🤡 Yes, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled. It’s not like Chinese people came to Saudi Arabia and kicked out the Arabs. That’s exactly what Israel did! A bunch of people from a different continent come in and kick out the native population. And when you said “In 1948 when Israel became an official country again” tf what? Wdym? The Kingdom of Israel was made in the IRON AGE, 3000 years ago! They are not native to Israel. They are native to Egypt (where Moses lived) or Iraq (where Abraham was born.
It's clearly spiritual in my opinion because it just goes beyond brainwashing to an impossibility to believe the nonsense that's believed. Well said my friend.
It is Spiritual. I agree. God (The alpha and Amega - the I am who I am, the God of the Jew's - down through Abraham who was chosen by this same God, came Israel). There fore, God has chosen the Jewish people to be known as Israeli. Now the world, (those who do not know or accept God), do not want Israel to exist because they are in rebellion to God's ways and hate the people of God, God's chosen people the Jews, who are Israeli by default of God's choice. Even if currently they have not all returned to their home of Israel.
The Philistines were a people who vanished, and there is no connection to the new nation formed in the last century, who are basically refugees from Arab countries.
@@Rasengun_MP40 You can't take a DNA test to find out if you are Jewish. Israel is the land for the Jews. That is those who obey the commands from the God of Israel. This is all long written down; more cannon than anything any modern philosopher has spoken or scientist.
Yet we in the UK get thrown in jail for wanting Muslims to go home and they have zero ties to the UK. Is their a more hypocritical people than Muslims?
I have. And when he says most of the land for the proposed Jewish state was Jewish owned, that’s simply not true. Only a small percentage had actually been purchased by Jews
There ruins of a Synagogue in Gaza which predates Islam by more than 100 years. Prior to 1948, “Palestinian” currency was stamped “Eretz Israel,” (Land of Israel).
@@squid_3 no such thing as “ruins” of Native American village, they didn’t build with stone any other materials that would last. Native American lands weren’t stolen, they were purchased… learn history. Native Americans weren’t indigenous to America, they came from Asia during the last Ice Age. Most Native Americans were killed by other Native Americans, they weren’t living in peace and harmony. When Europeans arrived, they didn’t just stark t killing Native Americans . The main cause of death for Native Americans after Europeans arrived was diseases which Europeans had gained immunity. They didn’t snow what germs were and it wasn’t intentional. If you back far enough, Europeans and Native Americans shared the same ancestors.
Jews lived in the land not 3000 years ago. Jews lived in Israel 3000 years continuously. From the Bible to NOW. He misses the words "continuous presence." Also he wants to invent a time machine and UN divide historic Palestine.
And just in case, tell this idiot that not a single archeologist proved the existence of the Great Israel or the Solomon temple, not a single one. So stop your LSD fantasy trips based on a magic book.
I had an Aunt that visited "Palestine" in 1946. It was some kind of Pilgrimage thing with her University...Temple Mount, Holy Sepulchre, etc were the visit sites, the rest was some kind of humanitarian aid project/Christian Mission. She died a few years ago or I'd ask her the details. What I do know (because I have it in my reading room) is the desk flag she brought home. It's a 180 degree turn of the current Israeli flag. It is white, with blue stripes on each end that represent the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea (from the river to the sea, right?). In between those stripes is the JEWISH Star of David. Why? Because there's been a Hebrew presence in the "Holy Land" that was once the Kingdom of Israel for thousands of years.
There were always jews living in the land they even called themselves Palestinian. The problem is with the zionist European jews or shall i say invaders.
The "Palestinian" Philosophy thus far: Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose.
@@squid_3Yes, just like there are no Spanish colonizers in South America, who didn't displace people but rather "married" with them, made them adopt a foreign language, and make Catholicism as the only religion - ring a bell?
"Baby brained," that guy said? Usually, people who attack your intelligence within debate/argument are people who practice the occult; they love that tactic and resort to it any time they are losing.
There is no official name Palestinian country There is no Palestinian nation There is no Palestinian land Can anyone or anybody of the whole world to proved what is the name of Palestinian currency of the land of Israel
@@jakecross4628 actually they stole home of Jews or from someone else. not all. some cases. also they didn't pay rent . or avoided taxes. nobody stole anything. what are you talking about? land is bought all the time. people get evicted all the time especially after a war that you didn't start.
Wasn't it also Christian land until Muslims invaded in around 630? Imagine the peace if it was still Christians and Jews and no Muslims as both religions have evolved over the centuries.
Without lies, …..dies. Yes, a lot of the whole world would live in peace without that “religion of peace”. Only communist/socialist countries would be oppressed by their government
True, the city of haifa evolved from the french crusaders order of the st.george knite order the monastery still active today the name is Stella Maris (star of the sea in French)
@@1seafisherIf the Palestinian Arabs are truly the descendants of this Caananites, which is doubted upon. Jews in general also have genetical roots with Caaninites (and may even be a subgroup), but they kept that Jewish culture for millennia unlike Palestinian Arabs who assimilated. Both may had roots from Caananites. Only one group maintained their ethnic identity. If Palestinian Arabs learn Caananite (which isn't even known, as the later languages like Phoenician, Aramean/Syriac and Hebrew are the earliest know there), then we'll talk. Most of them can't even admit they may have Jewish ancestry.
The "Land of Israel" is barely mentioned in the Old Testament: the more common expression is the Land of Canaan. When it is mentioned, it does not include Jerusalem, Hebron, or Bethlehem. Biblical "Israel" is only northern Israel (Samaria) and there never was a united kingdom including both ancient Judea and Samaria. .Even had such a kingdom ever existed and been promised by God to the Jews, it is hardly a clinching argument for claiming statehood after more than 2,000 years. In traditional Judaism there is no injunction to "return" to the "land of Israel". The ritual "next year in Jerusalem" that is part of the Passover Seder prayer was never a call to action, or to reconstitute a state. God say to Abraham: The land between Eufrat and the Nile will belong to you when the Messiah arrive to Earth. Has Messiah arrived? Or are you zionist Jew just stupid ? According to Talmud commentaries (Ketubot 111A) and Torah verses such as Exodus 2:22, any attempt to establish a Jewish state after the second 'exile' or before the coming of the Messiah is an act against God and illegal. It was still prevented even though the country was governed according to the teachings of the Torah. God still determined the Jewish nation to continue to live under the rule of other nations. If this prohibition is violated, God will inflict greater calamities on them.
@@zjzr08 Let me say first Judaism is not a race . Having Jewish ancestors means nothing. Muslim /Christian /Jewish aboriginal Palestinans can convert their religion. Anyway try read some of this book: *In the book "The Invention of the Land of Israel", " Professor Shlomo Sand, Israeli Historian at the University of Tel Aviv, deconstructs the age-old legends surrounding the Holy Land and the prejudices that continue to suffocate it. Sand’s account dissects the concept of “historical right” and tracks the creation of the modern concept of the “State of Israel” by nineteenth-century Christian Evangelical Protestants and European Jewish Zionists. This invention, he argues, not only facilitated the colonization of the Middle East and the establishment of the settler colonial State of Israel; it is also threatening the existence of the "Jewish state" today. The "Land of Israel" is barely mentioned in the Old Testament: the more common expression is the Land of Canaan. When it is mentioned, it does not include Jerusalem, Hebron, or Bethlehem. Biblical "Israel" is only northern Israel (Samaria) and there never was a united kingdom including both ancient Judea and Samaria. .Even had such a kingdom ever existed and been promised by God to the Jews, it is hardly a clinching argument for claiming statehood after more than 2,000 years. In traditional Judaism there is no injunction to "return" to the "land of Israel". The ritual "next year in Jerusalem" that is part of the Passover Seder prayer was never a call to action, or to reconstitute a state. * The book "The Invention of Ancient Israel : The Silencing of Palestinian History" shows how the true history of ancient Palestine has been obscured by the search for Israel. Keith W. Whitelam shows how ancient Israel has been invented by scholars in the image of a European nation state, influenced by the realisation of the state of Israel in 1948. He explores the theological and political assumptions which have shaped research into ancient Israel by Biblical scholars, and contributed to the vast network of scholarship which Said identified as 'Orientalist discourse'. This study concentrates on two crucial periods from the end of the late Bronze Age to the Iron Age, a so-called period of the emergence of ancient Israel and the rise of an Israelite "state" under David. It explores the prospects for developing the study of Palestinian history as a subject inits own right, divorced from the history of the Bible, and argues that Biblical scholars, through their traditional view of this area, have contributed to dispossession both of a Palestinian land and a Palestinian past. This book is important reading for historians, Biblical specialists, social anthropologists and all those who are interested in the history of ancient Israel and Palestine. About The Author Keith W. Whitelam is a Senior Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Stirling. He is the co-author of The Emergence of Early Israel in Historical Perspective (1987), and has produced a series of articles on ancient Israelite and Palestinian history. * Moshe Kalmi The Myths of Zionism This book is a critical account of the historical, political and cultural roots of Zionism. John Rose shows how this powerful political force is based in mythology; ancient, medieval and modern. Many of these stories, as with other mythologies, have no basis in fact. ..... Scrutinising the roots of the myths of Zionism and mobilising recent scholarship, John Rose shows how many of these stories, as with other mythologies, have no basis in fact. However, because Zionism is a living political force and these myths have been used to justify very real and political ends - namely, the expulsion and continuing persecution of the Palestinians. John Rose separates fact from fiction presenting a detailed analysis of their origins and development. This includes a challenge to Zionism's biblical claims using very recent and very startling Israeli archaeological conclusions. This book shows clearly how Zionism makes many false claims on Jewish religion and history. He questions its rationale as a response to European anti-Semitism, and shows that, if there is ever to be peace and reconciliation in the land of Palestine, this intellectual dishonesty must be addressed Funfact: Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites. WHO'S ANTI-SEMITES Jose Martin Calderon Dr. Areilla Oppenheim at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, did the first extensive DNA study in 2001 of Israelis & Palestinians, and concluded that the emigrants on ships to Palestine before it became Israel were of Mongol 40% & Turkish 40% genome...there was no Semetic blood associated to the original Hebrews from the Middle East of 4,000 years ago in Jerusalem or Biblical territory. This was confirmed by another DNA project by Dr. Eran Elhaik at the McKusick-Namans Institute of Genetic Medicine at the John Hopkins University of School of Medicine, in 2012. His conclusions were the same!* The Askenanzi did not ever migrate out of the Middle East!* At the same time extensive DNA evidence found the Palestinians to be 80% more or less, Semetic blood in their ancestors who were found therefore to be the real Israelites. The white Jews whose ancestors embarked on ships in 1882 to Palestine before it was named Israel---aren't Israelites. These White Eastern European descendants of German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Georgian, etc., are impostors claiming to be Gods Chosen Ones, but are descendants of the old Khazars from the Khazarian Caucus & they have been denying this scientific evidence as they have made up myths of their own histories, which already many Americans believe throughout one whole century, i.e. Schofield Bible. For, the real history of the new established "Israel in 1947" --'is no secret today!* Palestinians were found to be almost more or at least 80% Semetic ones and Not those Zionist Jewish from New York.
You should add that the original conception of the Jewish homeland included the land mass comprising Jordan (which is inhabited mostly by "Palestinians"). The better part of the land that was previously envisioned as a Jewish homeland was ceded to Arabs to repay the Hashemites for siding with the British during WWI. The Hashemites are from Saudi Arabia, where they lived until 1921. They are now the royal family of Jordan. Doesn't that make them colonialists as they are not from Jordan, they prevent "Palestinians" from settling in Jordan and do not offer citizenship to the Palestinians who already live there?
Peace through strength, strength through truth. While I may disagree with Shapiro on the vast majority of his other views, the one thing that I will always believe and will always say is that Israel has the right to defend itself, and I stand with Israel.
We know that Jews legally migrated to the Levant region and legally purchased their holdings which the Arabs attempted to steal in 47/48 . The majority of non Israeli Arabs in that Levant region are also immigrants. There were pre existing native Jews in the region and some pre existing Arabs too . Mark Wrote about it in 1850s .
The belief that there's a genosyde exists only in your own personal Delusions. The belief that you have the right to hold others accountable for your own personal delusions is terrorism.
Honestly, saying that Jews have a right to return does not make sense. Some Jews do not have any middle-Eastern roots, so why shuld those claim a right to land that their ancestors never saw? But, if you reject Israel as an arbitrary creation of colonialism, then there are several other countries that you should object to... and no one does.
Converts only are around 10% if genetics are to be believed (although many converts wed with ethnic Jews) and in a way they became assimilated to Jewish culture like how many ethnic groups like Chinese assimilated to other countries IMO. That being said, it is odd that many protest against Israel if it is "colonial", when many of them are from the US which is a colony of Brits before, and you can't point your fingers if you are one IMo.
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I wish you had more exposure in the press. Also, 20% of Israel's population is Muslim Arab. In the 1948 war, Israel allowed Arabs who didn't fight to stay. What is never mentioned is that, in 1947-1948, these Muslim nations expelled over 800,000 Jews from their lands.
Regarding ethnic cleansing, why is everyone so comfortable if The Clinton Administration helps doing it in Kosovo/Bosnia-Herzegobina?. I don't hear any complaints there!. Thank you for sharing this video!. Shavua Tov!. 🇮🇱
Almost all muslim countries were created by colonial powers(ex: iraq, syria, jordan, saudi arabia, tunisia, pakistan, oman, kuwait, etc..) egypt was part of ottoman empire and than became a british protectorate before becoming an independent country. egypt illegally occupied gaza from 1948 to 1967. How many egyptians moved from egypt to gaza during that time? I am guessing quite a few. ex: arafat's family originally moved from egypt to british mandate(Arafat was born in Cairo, Egypt.[15] His father, Abdel Raouf al-Qudwa al-Husseini, was a Palestinian from Gaza City, whose mother, Yasser's paternal grandmother, was Egyptian. Arafat's father battled in the Egyptian courts for 25 years to claim family land in Egypt as part of his inheritance but was unsuccessful. wiki).
It is not just that simple JTV tells here. Many Arabs had to leave their homes, entire villages were "cleaned" by Jews before and during the war of 1948 and until now they are not allowed to come back. But in the end, it does not change anything. Israel had all right to prevent those people from coming back, because they did not accept Israel as a state and they are still not ready to live in peace with jews at all.
The Jews were expelled by the Romans in 135 AD. I’m sure everyone here would be fine getting kicked out of their house because of an event from Roman times /s
So lets say the native americans wanna have their Land Back after 3000 years does the native americans are now colonisers Bro get a Life jews are the natives Muslims are the colonizers
@@Rasengun_MP40 there is no objective reason to call it Jewish Land. The “continued presence after expulsion” argument is a cop-out Also, I’m not an Arab
Right, and Islam has had nothing to do with the forced decline of both Judaism and Christianity in the region. It is a "holy mission" in Islam to do away with the Jewish people altogether. Sahih Muslim 2922. Treaties forced on people conquered by Islam included such stipulations that people of other faiths could not repair places of worship or build new ones and could not preach their own faith to other people (see: ""Treaty of Ummar"). The Nazis got the idea for the Yellow Star of David to seperate the jews from the rest of the populace from Muslims who had used it for centuries before. One of the reasons for the creation of a sovereign Jewish state was to redress the oppression and persecution that Jews have faced at the hands of Muslims and Christians throughout the centuries. Jews made up 1.24% of the Ottoman Empire, the land they were allocated in 1948 was 1.15% of that Empire. Blame the subsequent landloss on the wars and terrorism instigated by Arab nations and the "Palestinians". Nobody says "boo" about the partition of India along religious lines that caused the displacement of millions of people, maybe because the Islamists got their own substantially state out of it - Pakistan. The Jews not only have a religion mostly developed in the area but also most other big hallmarks of a people/ethnicity including a language, Hebrew. Islam and the Arabic language are imports to the area. Arabs by far got the most generous land allocations in the breakup of the Ottoman Empire for supporting the allies. Go and ask the Kurds, who saw their ancestral lands split between mostly Arabic nations and are still fiighting for their own nation to this day. And how are people of other faiths doing at the hands of the adherents of the" religion of peace" in the region? Only a century ago Christians made up a fifth of the population of the Middle East, that has been whittled down to only 5%: "Christian persecution in the Middle East reaching 'genocide-like' levels" - BBC 3rd May 2019.
There is a really good film called Lawrence of Arabia, this partly shows the lands being invaded by the Bedu-Arabs in the 1910s. This is the last Arabian conquest of these lands. There has always been some form of conquest, but colonialism never happened here.
Actually, during the Muslim conquest very few Arabs actually settled in the land. Mostly they just kept going on to conquer the lands beyond. Which is why, at the begining, the Muslim treatment of the local indigenous population was relatively better than what would come later once their population grew, by both colonialism and settlement, and by conversion - wiling or under varying degrees of duress - they began with ethnic cleansing.
From the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates is the promised land. These people that are attacking Israel don’t realise that the very thing they fear will come about because of Their own actions.
I love these Palestinian activists. BY their logic? the 899/900th of the greater middle east is fair game for attack by Jews since over 1 million were ethnically cleansed. The issue is NOT the 1/900th of Israel but rather the entire Middle East. Show the correct map, the map that shows the Arab occupied Middle East
Israel is not a European colonial project. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It's an indigenous people returning to their ancestral homeland after being displaced for literally centuries.
Gaza is populated by mainly Egyptian and also Saudi imigrants who entered during the Ottoman empire rule. Hence the prevalence of the surname El Masri.
The reason God exiled the Jew for close to Two thousand years is because they killed their messiah: “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! Behold, your house is forsaken. And I tell you, you will not see me until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”” Luke 13:34-35 ESV
Don't bother. you trying to put two Different cultures, stories, Timelines and circumstances as they were some how equivalent to each other or the same, does not make you smarter. if anything it is very shalow and very nerrow minded.
Not at all. Apparently the only 'wrong' that should be made a 'right' is the Israel-Palestine one. But if Europe/America is expected to absorb millions of Jews then all of the Palestinian diaspora should be expelled.
Amen 🙏🏽 such a simple point that can be used against this useless baseless argument we hear from these illegitimate colonial settlers everyday. I guess to them if you spread the same lie over and over for decades eventually people will really believe that land belongs to them. What a joke!
Of course the Jews predated the Palestinians in the land called Israel. This is however a very weak argument for claiming it as their homeland. It is better to say the UN partitioned it, the Arabs fought the Jews and lost and the Jews as victors dictate how this territory is governed. That is how it has always been throughout history.
@@corydor4218 there gas been a Jewish presence for over 3000 years, the land has been under serial occupation for about 2000+ years, there is archeological evidence as well as historical recirds of both Romans and Persian empires. It has always been the homeland of the Jewish people. The League of Nations, and then in 1948 the UN, unanimously recognised this. It belongs to Israel.
@@pamelakoretsky9909 That is a weak argument. A presence means nothing. The American Indians have been present for much longer than the Europeans and they have lost their homeland to an overpowering force. They were defeated. Period. Nobody claims America is the homeland of the American Indians since the 1500s. The Jews lost their homeland and found a way to take it back, including fighting those who had been living on it for centuries.
@@pamelakoretsky9909 Weak argument. The American Indians had been living in the Americas forever until the Europeans came and devastated them. It is no longer their homeland as they had been conquered. They now fall underAmerican subjugation. The Jews found a way to reconquer what was once their homland and the itermediate occupants tried to prevent it but were overwhelmed by force and now they are subjugated to Israel. The conqueror is master.
@@corydor4218 no not forever and they came from other continents and each wave killed or absorbed those from before. In fact were still killing each other when Europeans came. Are you on N. America? Planning to give your house and land back to the tribals because they were there first? Oh...the Arabs came AFTER the Israelites who ARE THE NATIVES 2 different ways...they started as a group of Cannanites, and became a separate culture and ethnic group in that land before the Arabs before the Muslims. The definition of indigenous. You have no argument for a group of people with no cultural ties to the area and a fake from 1960s identity to havexany claim at all.
@@corydor4218 the Jews have been there thousands of years. It was under occupation never a country called Palestine. They are arabs...mostly Syrian and Egyptian. There is no such thing as a Palestinian...its a political ploy that started in 1960s that bigots like you buy into.
Who is not absolutely fed up with these jew haters? A vocalubary consisting of 4 words,-which they probably do not know the meaning of. We stand with Israel.
Al Husseini was quoted at saying he wanted the holy land to be part of the Syrian empire, the first and only leader of "Palastine" wasnt interested in palastine but a greater syria
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They try to say they are descendants of the Canaanites or the Philistines (sub tribe of the Canaanites), only the Canaanites weren't Arab, and neither were the Philistines who we now have evidence were Greek. What in the Nine Hells does "Free 'palestine'" even mean? Palestine never existed as anything but a region and by that definition, an Israeli Jew is a 'palestinian'. I can't take the ignorance. I'm so over it at this point.
i wonder why Israel is colonialist entity for taking land from the so called Palestinians but Jordan is not. People like to ignore the fact that the British gave a big part to Jordan.
If people think inhabitants of Gaza are refugees, what do they consider the Jewish Diaspora? Do they count the Arabs that came from the surrounding countries as refugees, or put them in the 30%?
History of PALESTINIAN STATE: Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. Before the Mamluk Sultanate, there was the Ayyubid Sultanate not a Palestinian state. Before the Ayyubid Sultanate, there was the Frankish Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there were the Arab Caliphates like Rashiduns, Umayyads, Abbasids and Fatimids, not a Palestinian state. Before the Arab Caliphates, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanid empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean Kingdom, not a Palestinian state. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the Ptolemic Kingdom of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. Before the Ptolemic Kingdom, there was the Macedonian empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Macedonian empire, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Neo-Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Neo-Babylonian Empire, there was the Neo-Assyrian Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Neo-Assyrian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
Did the British government put a lot of people who didn’t live in that area into what is now called Israel post WW2? Yes. Did they then set up a religion based authoritarian government that systematically oppresses anyone who is not part of that religion? Yes. Did they then repeatedly and forcefully expand the borders that were previously set? Yes. Did they create an appartide state in which Palestinians have no rights, can have their possessions, home, and lives taken with no consequences to the government who takes them: Yes. Would that make most people angry and probably insurgent? Yes. Are they now using an attack from a group that they had previously funded when they were more convenient to completely destroy and entire group of people, bomb schools and hospitals, and even violently protest for their right to commit rape and torture? Yes. At this point, I’m not so much concerned with who was there first 5000 years ago. I’m concerned with the fact that they’ve systematically killed more than 40,000 people directly, hundreds of thousands indirectly but intentionally, and are currently engaged in rape, torture, and extermination and it needs to stop.
May I introduce you to the British plot to assist the Arab armies in war of independence, because of a colonial aspiration to gain a free supply of oil from Iraq through Syria and continue through what has become the state of Israel. Despite the British Mandate that was supposed to grant the Jews a homeland? The name of the book is, if you ask is: 'Britain's Secret Crusade- the covert plot for control of the Middle East and the Arab-Israeli war, 1947-1948'. The author's name is : Ezra Nishri. BTW they abstained from voting for the resolution of November 47, and they used to block ships of refugees of the Holocaust from coming to the land of Israel, but they are opening wide the gates of Britain
The jews conquered the canaanites of the coast and assimilated them well before the philistines arrived from across the Mediterranean. Modern 'Palestinians' are just Arab immigrants from across the ottoman empire. The original philistines had fully integrated with Jewish society by the time of Roman suzerainty. They simply called the coast Palestine because that's what the Greeks called the area since the time of mycenae 1500 years before.
No Ben, Arabs don’t come from only Arabia. Palestinian Arabs have been shown to have Canaanite ancestors. And you live in America despite having no indigenous ancestors, right?
Growing up and reading the Bible and the history of Israel , I as a mixed race South African in the 1970's and 1980's wanted to be a Jew so badly. Why? many reasons but the main one that stood out was the resilience of the Jewish people, despite the heavy odds stacked against them, all the adversity that they had to endure they stand firm ,tall and proud. I realized that I cannot be a Jew but the next best thing a Passionate Zionist Supporter of Israel. Am Yisrael Chai. Disclaimer: Apartheid mmmmm , I lived it in the 70's and 80's , I visited Israel a few years ago and to my Surprise no Apartheid, just warm and friendly people!! Shalom and always remember to shout it out loud and proud ''AM YISRAEL CHAI''
Ben made two fallacious arguments, one factual and one logical. First, NO most of the land proposed for a Jewish state in 1947 had not been Jewish owned. Only a small percentage was. Second, if Palestinians who weren’t born in Palestine have no claim to it, how did Ukraine native Golda Meir? Btw, Arafat was a Palestinian citizen at birth.
Can not accurately recorded history, that may be agreed upon as fact. Lead people to believe and understand the truth. As it would appear, most people lack the motivation to research accurately the recorded history and then form their statements and thoughts from that. Instead, they listen to ill informed people's dialogs that agree with their crowd mentally and thinking. Which clouds their minds to the truth until a point that their recall of the truth, is their own belief.
Based of my hystorical knowledge and wikipedia you can see the original colonizers: Achaemenid Empire (Persian) 550 BC-330 BC, Fatimid Caliphate 909-1171, Timurid empire 1370-1507, Ottoman Empire 1299-1922. *Edit: These are just the specifically arabic ones of course, but there is never a mention of the jews colonizing anything or coming from somewhere else other than around the world war events. But there are documents stating they originated there so I just don't understand these people. Then again, the wisest ones are usually silent and the stupid ones the loudest.
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About 800 000 Jews were displaced from Arabs countries at the time, so they were refugees too and Isreal took them in.
I was literally just about to comment that. The difference is the Jews who have been displaced, enslaved, fled and moved assimilated into the countries they ended up in and become successful and prosperous.
😮we had to leave Iran. Now ,which country is apartheid?
Shhhh! Stop making sense! Don't come here with inconvenient FACTS
Hundreds of thousands of Jews forced out of their homes for the 'crime' of having the same religion and heritage as the zionists. No one cared simply because they were Jews while also telling the world it has nothing to do with anti-semitism.
But, but... I FEEEL that they are BAD! @@mejsjalv
Exactly. These people don’t know basic history or facts yet have the audacity to tell others to educate themselves. Look in the mirror.
🇮🇱 people were in the land way before.
😂 well said!!!
It's mythology the bible not real history ben don't have a clue Jewish do not pre date the Palestinians in them lands they was there a good 1000 years before Abraham ever arrived
There are no Palestinian people. It is a made up group.
@@THEDOGFATHERL11 No, the bible is not mythology; and you have no evidence to prove your statement true. However I do have evidence to back up my statement, action. Do what God says to do and you will see by way of action that it is true, just like when you do math in college or anywhere on earth; do your math and find out instead of being that student that does nothing but accuses the teacher.
@@THEDOGFATHERL11😂😂😂😂 wow wow wow, so un educated...bruh, google is free, ya don't need the bible...FAIL! Arabs are from Arabia, not too difficult now...repeat after me....Arab....Arabia...ok once again, Arab....Arabia.....Greeks....from greece....italians....from Italy....jews...from judah 👊
These people complaining have nothing to do with the land. It’s not their business, I don’t see why anyone even pays any attention to them. In 1948 when Israel officially became a country again, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled, never to return. It’s time Israel does the same.
@@thatguy3468 the surrounding arab countries "expelled" Jewish people because of certain Z group who spread the idea that all Js have dual allegiance.
Why are dna test banned huh?🤨🤔🧐
@thatguy3468
You’re the same clown who I debated in a Corey Gil Shuster video, in which you haven’t replied in 5 days🤡
Yes, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled. It’s not like Chinese people came to Saudi Arabia and kicked out the Arabs. That’s exactly what Israel did! A bunch of people from a different continent come in and kick out the native population.
And when you said “In 1948 when Israel became an official country again” tf what? Wdym? The Kingdom of Israel was made in the IRON AGE, 3000 years ago! They are not native to Israel. They are native to Egypt (where Moses lived) or Iraq (where Abraham was born.
@thatguy3468
You’re the same clown who I debated in a Corey Gil Shuster video, in which you haven’t replied in 5 days🤡
Yes, Jews living in surrounding Arab countries were expelled. It’s not like Chinese people came to Saudi Arabia and kicked out the Arabs. That’s exactly what Israel did! A bunch of people from a different continent come in and kick out the native population.
And when you said “In 1948 when Israel became an official country again” tf what? Wdym? The Kingdom of Israel was made in the IRON AGE, 3000 years ago! They are not native to Israel. They are native to Egypt (where Moses lived) or Iraq (where Abraham was born.
You’re the same clown who I debated in a Corey Gil Shuster video, in which you haven’t replied in 5 days🤡
It's clearly spiritual in my opinion because it just goes beyond brainwashing to an impossibility to believe the nonsense that's believed. Well said my friend.
It is Spiritual. I agree.
God (The alpha and Amega - the I am who I am, the God of the Jew's - down through Abraham who was chosen by this same God, came Israel).
There fore, God has chosen the Jewish people to be known as Israeli.
Now the world, (those who do not know or accept God), do not want Israel to exist because they are in rebellion to God's ways and hate the people of God, God's chosen people the Jews, who are Israeli by default of God's choice. Even if currently they have not all returned to their home of Israel.
There are Arabs in Israel living alongside Jews, Christians, Muslims, Bedouins, Druze, All are different Arabs. Who are the Palestinians!?
They dont exist
The real Jews of the land.
@@Kick_Rocksyou need to kick rocks
Palestinians is a word stolen from the Jews, much like their land, by lost people & their crazy ideology.
Doesn't the name 'Palestine' come from previous occupiers? Strange why they would want that identity.
The Philistines were a people who vanished, and there is no connection to the new nation formed in the last century, who are basically refugees from Arab countries.
Just take a dna test
@@Rasengun_MP40 You can't take a DNA test to find out if you are Jewish. Israel is the land for the Jews. That is those who obey the commands from the God of Israel. This is all long written down; more cannon than anything any modern philosopher has spoken or scientist.
@@Rasengun_MP40 WE did and WE are the natives arabs still are the colonisers
same as jews. the holy land should be european land
@@exincom4729 no yall are oppressed to taking a dna test why are you lying
Jews returning to Judea is quite the opposite of colonialism.
Yet we in the UK get thrown in jail for wanting Muslims to go home and they have zero ties to the UK. Is their a more hypocritical people than Muslims?
Mslms are the colonialists
Well said!
Jews are De-colonizing the land and have every right to
Not when their descent is questionable.
Bless all the Jewish people around the globe and may sacred Israel live forever 🇮🇱
Love and Prayers from Australia 🇦🇺
Am Yisrael Chai FOREVER
Thank heavens for Ben Shapiro’s sharp incisive fine intellect! Best not to debate with him without doing massive history research!
That is a funny line.
@@jakecross4628it really is. They’re paid bots😂
To a lot of people including myself what Ben Shapiro said was basic knowledge not massive history research.! But Ben does say it quickly
I have. And when he says most of the land for the proposed Jewish state was Jewish owned, that’s simply not true. Only a small percentage had actually been purchased by Jews
There ruins of a Synagogue in Gaza which predates Islam by more than 100 years.
Prior to 1948, “Palestinian” currency was stamped “Eretz Israel,” (Land of Israel).
There are ruins of a Native American village which predates America by hundreds of years.
@@squid_3 no such thing as “ruins” of Native American village, they didn’t build with stone any other materials that would last.
Native American lands weren’t stolen, they were purchased… learn history.
Native Americans weren’t indigenous to America, they came from Asia during the last Ice Age.
Most Native Americans were killed by other Native Americans, they weren’t living in peace and harmony. When Europeans arrived, they didn’t just stark t killing Native Americans . The main cause of death for Native Americans after Europeans arrived was diseases which Europeans had gained immunity. They didn’t snow what germs were and it wasn’t intentional.
If you back far enough, Europeans and Native Americans shared the same ancestors.
@@squid_3Which I thought is accepted by many Americans as part of "Land Back"?
@@squid_3who built America
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Hawaii was invaded and stolen....
Falklands invaded and stolen.
Israel 3,000 years ago, Israel now, Israel forever. 🇮🇱
Jews lived in the land not 3000 years ago. Jews lived in Israel 3000 years continuously. From the Bible to NOW. He misses the words "continuous presence." Also he wants to invent a time machine and UN divide historic Palestine.
Not at all, 700 years almost, all the rest, jews were all around Europe, so what the f...k are talking about?
Palestinians are descendants of Samaritans, Jews, Philistines, Canaanites, and others who converted to Christianity or Islam.
Genetic evidence from Canaanite DNA proves Palestinian descent.
And just in case, tell this idiot that not a single archeologist proved the existence of the Great Israel or the Solomon temple, not a single one. So stop your LSD fantasy trips based on a magic book.
@@jakecross4628evidence of dna Canaanite’s is in Israelis.
I had an Aunt that visited "Palestine" in 1946. It was some kind of Pilgrimage thing with her University...Temple Mount, Holy Sepulchre, etc were the visit sites, the rest was some kind of humanitarian aid project/Christian Mission. She died a few years ago or I'd ask her the details.
What I do know (because I have it in my reading room) is the desk flag she brought home. It's a 180 degree turn of the current Israeli flag.
It is white, with blue stripes on each end that represent the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea (from the river to the sea, right?). In between those stripes is the JEWISH Star of David.
Why? Because there's been a Hebrew presence in the "Holy Land" that was once the Kingdom of Israel for thousands of years.
There were always jews living in the land they even called themselves Palestinian. The problem is with the zionist European jews or shall i say invaders.
There's no chicken and the egg. These are just people trying to rewrite history. Not even their own history.
Thanks!
The "Palestinian" Philosophy thus far: Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose, Cry, Start a War, Lose.
You missed , how could Israel do this
Fr
When losing: genocide, oppression and occupation
When winning: alhamdulilah! Islam strong!
you forgot one: am I arab? am I palestinian? am I turkish? am I even real?
Some people are just plain stupid and vile. He's probably learned History from TikTok
@@1seafisherway honest than the Muslim colonizers
@exinco
No such thing
@@squid_3 🤣🤣🤣
Another "honest Muslim"
@@squid_3Yes, just like there are no Spanish colonizers in South America, who didn't displace people but rather "married" with them, made them adopt a foreign language, and make Catholicism as the only religion - ring a bell?
Or could have simply learned it in any madrasa or Muslim school.
Ben Shapiro logic is "if I speak quick enough everybody will think i'm right"
Your logic is "if I bring up the way someone speaks to discredit them rather than addressing their arguments, I can seem like the smart one!"
Then im a refugee too, my dad survived the holocaust.
Wait, does that mean I’m one too since my step grandfather’s family was forced out of Russia?
The Yemenite jews r officially refugees by the UN definition since 2010
"Baby brained," that guy said? Usually, people who attack your intelligence within debate/argument are people who practice the occult; they love that tactic and resort to it any time they are losing.
There is no official name Palestinian country
There is no Palestinian nation
There is no Palestinian land
Can anyone or anybody of the whole world to proved what is the name of Palestinian currency of the land of Israel
@sionefuluasou3507 What you don't understand is that is irrelevant.
@@sionefuluasou3507 Does that justify stealing the homes and land of people who have lived there for generations?
@@jakecross4628 actually they stole home of Jews or from someone else. not all. some cases.
also they didn't pay rent . or avoided taxes.
nobody stole anything. what are you talking about? land is bought all the time. people get evicted all the time especially after a war that you didn't start.
@jakecross4628 😅🤣Nope it PROVES that the "Palestinians" dont have history OR a claim to that area which is VERY relevant
@jakecross4628 Yes, because it wax NEVER their land. But it was and IS Jewish land. They are NATIVE to it.
Wasn't it also Christian land until Muslims invaded in around 630? Imagine the peace if it was still Christians and Jews and no Muslims as both religions have evolved over the centuries.
Without lies, …..dies.
Yes, a lot of the whole world would live in peace without that “religion of peace”.
Only communist/socialist countries would be oppressed by their government
Look at how Christians are treated by Israel.
True, the city of haifa evolved from the french crusaders order of the st.george knite order the monastery still active today the name is Stella Maris (star of the sea in French)
Christian Arabs were just as opposed to Zionism as Muslim Arabs were
There were coins, dated to the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, the Omride and Davidean Houses respectively,
are they stupid?
@@1seafisherIf the Palestinian Arabs are truly the descendants of this Caananites, which is doubted upon. Jews in general also have genetical roots with Caaninites (and may even be a subgroup), but they kept that Jewish culture for millennia unlike Palestinian Arabs who assimilated.
Both may had roots from Caananites. Only one group maintained their ethnic identity.
If Palestinian Arabs learn Caananite (which isn't even known, as the later languages like Phoenician, Aramean/Syriac and Hebrew are the earliest know there), then we'll talk. Most of them can't even admit they may have Jewish ancestry.
The "Land of Israel" is barely mentioned in the Old Testament: the more common expression is the Land of Canaan. When it is mentioned, it does not include Jerusalem, Hebron, or Bethlehem. Biblical "Israel" is only northern Israel (Samaria) and there never was a united kingdom including both ancient Judea and Samaria.
.Even had such a kingdom ever existed and been promised by God to the Jews, it is hardly a clinching argument for claiming statehood after more than 2,000 years.
In traditional Judaism there is no injunction to "return" to the "land of Israel". The ritual "next year in Jerusalem" that is part of the Passover Seder prayer was never a call to action, or to reconstitute a state.
God say to Abraham: The land between Eufrat and the Nile will belong to you when the Messiah arrive to Earth.
Has Messiah arrived?
Or are you zionist Jew just stupid ?
According to Talmud commentaries (Ketubot 111A) and Torah verses such as Exodus 2:22, any attempt to establish a Jewish state after the second 'exile' or before the coming of the Messiah is an act against God and illegal. It was still prevented even though the country was governed according to the teachings of the Torah. God still determined the Jewish nation to continue to live under the rule of other nations. If this prohibition is violated, God will inflict greater calamities on them.
@@zjzr08
Let me say first Judaism is not a race .
Having Jewish ancestors means nothing. Muslim /Christian /Jewish aboriginal Palestinans can convert their religion.
Anyway try read some of this book:
*In the book "The Invention of the Land of Israel", " Professor Shlomo Sand, Israeli Historian at the University of Tel Aviv, deconstructs the age-old legends surrounding the Holy Land and the prejudices that continue to suffocate it. Sand’s account dissects the concept of “historical right” and tracks the creation of the modern concept of the “State of Israel” by nineteenth-century Christian Evangelical Protestants and European Jewish Zionists. This invention, he argues, not only facilitated the colonization of the Middle East and the establishment of the settler colonial State of Israel; it is also threatening the existence of the "Jewish state" today.
The "Land of Israel" is barely mentioned in the Old Testament: the more common expression is the Land of Canaan. When it is mentioned, it does not include Jerusalem, Hebron, or Bethlehem. Biblical "Israel" is only northern Israel (Samaria) and there never was a united kingdom including both ancient Judea and Samaria.
.Even had such a kingdom ever existed and been promised by God to the Jews, it is hardly a clinching argument for claiming statehood after more than 2,000 years.
In traditional Judaism there is no injunction to "return" to the "land of Israel". The ritual "next year in Jerusalem" that is part of the Passover Seder prayer was never a call to action, or to reconstitute a state.
* The book "The Invention of Ancient Israel : The Silencing of Palestinian History" shows how the true history of ancient Palestine has been obscured by the search for Israel. Keith W. Whitelam shows how ancient Israel has been invented by scholars in the image of a European nation state, influenced by the realisation of the state of Israel in 1948. He explores the theological and political assumptions which have shaped research into ancient Israel by Biblical scholars, and contributed to the vast network of scholarship which Said identified as 'Orientalist discourse'.
This study concentrates on two crucial periods from the end of the late Bronze Age to the Iron Age, a so-called period of the emergence of ancient Israel and the rise of an Israelite "state" under David. It explores the prospects for developing the study of Palestinian history as a subject inits own right, divorced from the history of the Bible, and argues that Biblical scholars, through their traditional view of this area, have contributed to dispossession both of a Palestinian land and a Palestinian past.
This book is important reading for historians, Biblical specialists, social anthropologists and all those who are interested in the history of ancient Israel and Palestine.
About The Author
Keith W. Whitelam is a Senior Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Stirling. He is the co-author of The Emergence of Early Israel in Historical Perspective (1987), and has produced a series of articles on ancient Israelite and Palestinian history.
* Moshe Kalmi The Myths of Zionism
This book is a critical account of the historical, political and cultural roots of Zionism. John Rose shows how this powerful political force is based in mythology; ancient, medieval and modern. Many of these stories, as with other mythologies, have no basis in fact. .....
Scrutinising the roots of the myths of Zionism and mobilising recent scholarship, John Rose shows how many of these stories, as with other mythologies, have no basis in fact. However, because Zionism is a living political force and these myths have been used to justify very real and political ends - namely, the expulsion and continuing persecution of the Palestinians. John Rose separates fact from fiction presenting a detailed analysis of their origins and development. This includes a challenge to Zionism's biblical claims using very recent and very startling Israeli archaeological conclusions.
This book shows clearly how Zionism makes many false claims on Jewish religion and history. He questions its rationale as a response to European anti-Semitism, and shows that, if there is ever to be peace and reconciliation in the land of Palestine, this intellectual dishonesty must be addressed
Funfact: Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew
DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites.
WHO'S ANTI-SEMITES
Jose Martin Calderon Dr. Areilla Oppenheim at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, did the first extensive DNA study in 2001 of Israelis & Palestinians, and concluded that the emigrants on ships to Palestine before it became Israel were of Mongol 40% & Turkish 40% genome...there was no Semetic blood associated to the original Hebrews from the Middle East of 4,000 years ago in Jerusalem or Biblical territory.
This was confirmed by another DNA project by Dr.
Eran Elhaik at the McKusick-Namans Institute of Genetic Medicine at the John Hopkins University of School of Medicine, in 2012. His conclusions were the same!*
The Askenanzi did not ever migrate out of the Middle East!*
At the same time extensive DNA evidence found the Palestinians to be 80% more or less, Semetic blood in their ancestors who were found therefore to be the real Israelites.
The white Jews whose ancestors embarked on ships in 1882 to Palestine before it was named Israel---aren't Israelites. These White Eastern European descendants of German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Georgian, etc., are impostors claiming to be Gods Chosen Ones, but are descendants of the old Khazars from the Khazarian Caucus & they have been denying this scientific evidence as they have made up myths of their own histories, which already many Americans believe throughout one whole century, i.e. Schofield Bible.
For, the real history of the new established "Israel in 1947" --'is no secret today!*
Palestinians were found to be almost more or at least 80% Semetic ones and Not those Zionist Jewish from New York.
You should add that the original conception of the Jewish homeland included the land mass comprising Jordan (which is inhabited mostly by "Palestinians"). The better part of the land that was previously envisioned as a Jewish homeland was ceded to Arabs to repay the Hashemites for siding with the British during WWI. The Hashemites are from Saudi Arabia, where they lived until 1921. They are now the royal family of Jordan. Doesn't that make them colonialists as they are not from Jordan, they prevent "Palestinians" from settling in Jordan and do not offer citizenship to the Palestinians who already live there?
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The so called "Palestinians " are Egyptians
Most of them came from Saudi Arabia.
They are Levantine Arabs.
Peace through strength, strength through truth.
While I may disagree with Shapiro on the vast majority of his other views, the one thing that I will always believe and will always say is that Israel has the right to defend itself, and I stand with Israel.
So youre a liberal zionist? How do you feel about the fact that most of your comrades are pro hamas
We know that Jews legally migrated to the Levant region and legally purchased their holdings which the Arabs attempted to steal in 47/48 . The majority of non Israeli Arabs in that Levant region are also immigrants. There were pre existing native Jews in the region and some pre existing Arabs too . Mark Wrote about it in 1850s .
Did the Arabs found Jerusalem?
No
You know why I don’t like the pro Hamas movement? Because it has me agreeing with Ben Shapiro
There is no such thing as “pro Hamas” it’s anti genocide
@@squid_3lies, it’s the new blood libel against Jews, you hate Jews.
@@squid_3Stop lying .
The belief that there's a genosyde exists only in your own personal Delusions.
The belief that you have the right to hold others accountable for your own personal delusions is terrorism.
@@squid_3
Its absolutely pro Hamas. Otherwise people would have had the same energy for Sudan/Syria/Yemen etc.
Thank you 🙏 for educating ignorant Hamas supporters.
We stand with Israel forever
people speak with such authority about this conflict. I admire the confidence when what they are saying is factually incorrect :)
😂 I don't admire it.
Thanks
Well said.
Thank you.
Honestly, saying that Jews have a right to return does not make sense. Some Jews do not have any middle-Eastern roots, so why shuld those claim a right to land that their ancestors never saw? But, if you reject Israel as an arbitrary creation of colonialism, then there are several other countries that you should object to... and no one does.
The people as a whole have the right.
Converts only are around 10% if genetics are to be believed (although many converts wed with ethnic Jews) and in a way they became assimilated to Jewish culture like how many ethnic groups like Chinese assimilated to other countries IMO.
That being said, it is odd that many protest against Israel if it is "colonial", when many of them are from the US which is a colony of Brits before, and you can't point your fingers if you are one IMo.
This is really really well done; I just signed up for your channel. Very well delivered letting the data speak loudly; no ketchup needed on Sirloin Dr. STeve
The guy who talks about Israel ethnically cleansing the "indigenous" people lives in the US. Let that sink in.
Islam erases history and making ,claiming like what’s suites them
I wish you had more exposure in the press.
Also, 20% of Israel's population is Muslim Arab. In the 1948 war, Israel allowed Arabs who didn't fight to stay.
What is never mentioned is that, in 1947-1948, these Muslim nations expelled over 800,000 Jews from their lands.
Thanks Ben for the trust ❤
Regarding ethnic cleansing, why is everyone so comfortable if The Clinton Administration helps doing it in Kosovo/Bosnia-Herzegobina?. I don't hear any complaints there!. Thank you for sharing this video!. Shavua Tov!. 🇮🇱
They lived in palestine continuously !? Absolutely not.Maybe sporadically (in space and in time).
That guy just had a face that screams “punch me.”
Yes
Almost all muslim countries were created by colonial powers(ex: iraq, syria, jordan, saudi arabia, tunisia, pakistan, oman, kuwait, etc..) egypt was part of ottoman empire and than became a british protectorate before becoming an independent country. egypt illegally occupied gaza from 1948 to 1967. How many egyptians moved from egypt to gaza during that time? I am guessing quite a few. ex: arafat's family originally moved from egypt to british mandate(Arafat was born in Cairo, Egypt.[15] His father, Abdel Raouf al-Qudwa al-Husseini, was a Palestinian from Gaza City, whose mother, Yasser's paternal grandmother, was Egyptian. Arafat's father battled in the Egyptian courts for 25 years to claim family land in Egypt as part of his inheritance but was unsuccessful. wiki).
Look at that zombie , he doesn’t look healthy 😂
It is not just that simple JTV tells here. Many Arabs had to leave their homes, entire villages were "cleaned" by Jews before and during the war of 1948 and until now they are not allowed to come back.
But in the end, it does not change anything. Israel had all right to prevent those people from coming back, because they did not accept Israel as a state and they are still not ready to live in peace with jews at all.
The Jews were expelled by the Romans in 135 AD. I’m sure everyone here would be fine getting kicked out of their house because of an event from Roman times /s
Not all of them some of them did and it’s was strictly a Jewish land. Y’all aren’t the center of the universe
So lets say the native americans wanna have their Land Back after 3000 years does the native americans are now colonisers Bro get a Life jews are the natives Muslims are the colonizers
@@Rasengun_MP40 there is no objective reason to call it Jewish Land. The “continued presence after expulsion” argument is a cop-out
Also, I’m not an Arab
@@desruc21 I miss spoke about Jewish land I meant to say Jews weren’t the only ppl living in that land
Right, and Islam has had nothing to do with the forced decline of both Judaism and Christianity in the region. It is a "holy mission" in Islam to do away with the Jewish people altogether. Sahih Muslim 2922. Treaties forced on people conquered by Islam included such stipulations that people of other faiths could not repair places of worship or build new ones and could not preach their own faith to other people (see: ""Treaty of Ummar"). The Nazis got the idea for the Yellow Star of David to seperate the jews from the rest of the populace from Muslims who had used it for centuries before.
One of the reasons for the creation of a sovereign Jewish state was to redress the oppression and persecution that Jews have faced at the hands of Muslims and Christians throughout the centuries. Jews made up 1.24% of the Ottoman Empire, the land they were allocated in 1948 was 1.15% of that Empire. Blame the subsequent landloss on the wars and terrorism instigated by Arab nations and the "Palestinians". Nobody says "boo" about the partition of India along religious lines that caused the displacement of millions of people, maybe because the Islamists got their own substantially state out of it - Pakistan.
The Jews not only have a religion mostly developed in the area but also most other big hallmarks of a people/ethnicity including a language, Hebrew. Islam and the Arabic language are imports to the area.
Arabs by far got the most generous land allocations in the breakup of the Ottoman Empire for supporting the allies. Go and ask the Kurds, who saw their ancestral lands split between mostly Arabic nations and are still fiighting for their own nation to this day.
And how are people of other faiths doing at the hands of the adherents of the" religion of peace" in the region? Only a century ago Christians made up a fifth of the population of the Middle East, that has been whittled down to only 5%: "Christian persecution in the Middle East reaching 'genocide-like' levels" - BBC 3rd May 2019.
There is a really good film called Lawrence of Arabia, this partly shows the lands being invaded by the Bedu-Arabs in the 1910s. This is the last Arabian conquest of these lands. There has always been some form of conquest, but colonialism never happened here.
I am absolutely amazed that Rathbone got Ben Shapiro's attention.
Actually, during the Muslim conquest very few Arabs actually settled in the land. Mostly they just kept going on to conquer the lands beyond.
Which is why, at the begining, the Muslim treatment of the local indigenous population was relatively better than what would come later once their population grew, by both colonialism and settlement, and by conversion - wiling or under varying degrees of duress - they began with ethnic cleansing.
From the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates is the promised land. These people that are attacking Israel don’t realise that the very thing they fear will come about because of Their own actions.
I love these Palestinian activists. BY their logic? the 899/900th of the greater middle east is fair game for attack by Jews since over 1 million were ethnically cleansed. The issue is NOT the 1/900th of Israel but rather the entire Middle East. Show the correct map, the map that shows the Arab occupied Middle East
Rathbone is the worst of the worst
Israel is not a European colonial project. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It's an indigenous people returning to their ancestral homeland after being displaced for literally centuries.
Gaza is populated by mainly Egyptian and also Saudi imigrants who entered during the Ottoman empire rule. Hence the prevalence of the surname El Masri.
The reason God exiled the Jew for close to Two thousand years is because they killed their messiah:
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! Behold, your house is forsaken. And I tell you, you will not see me until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’””
Luke 13:34-35 ESV
So by this argument should the Native Americans take the land back from all Americans that now currently live on their land?
God gave Israel to the Jews.
Don't bother. you trying to put two Different cultures, stories, Timelines and circumstances as they were some how equivalent to each other or the same, does not make you smarter. if anything it is very shalow and very nerrow minded.
Not at all. Apparently the only 'wrong' that should be made a 'right' is the Israel-Palestine one. But if Europe/America is expected to absorb millions of Jews then all of the Palestinian diaspora should be expelled.
Amen 🙏🏽 such a simple point that can be used against this useless baseless argument we hear from these illegitimate colonial settlers everyday. I guess to them if you spread the same lie over and over for decades eventually people will really believe that land belongs to them. What a joke!
@@rakefetgal8383in this case the TRUTH seems to be quite shallow and narrow minded doesn’t it?
Of course the Jews predated the Palestinians in the land called Israel. This is however a very weak argument for claiming it as their homeland. It is better to say the UN partitioned it, the Arabs fought the Jews and lost and the Jews as victors dictate how this territory is governed. That is how it has always been throughout history.
@@corydor4218 there gas been a Jewish presence for over 3000 years, the land has been under serial occupation for about 2000+ years, there is archeological evidence as well as historical recirds of both Romans and Persian empires. It has always been the homeland of the Jewish people. The League of Nations, and then in 1948 the UN, unanimously recognised this. It belongs to Israel.
@@pamelakoretsky9909 That is a weak argument. A presence means nothing. The American Indians have been present for much longer than the Europeans and they have lost their homeland to an overpowering force. They were defeated. Period. Nobody claims America is the homeland of the American Indians since the 1500s. The Jews lost their homeland and found a way to take it back, including fighting those who had been living on it for centuries.
@@pamelakoretsky9909 Weak argument. The American Indians had been living in the Americas forever until the Europeans came and devastated them. It is no longer their homeland as they had been conquered. They now fall underAmerican subjugation. The Jews found a way to reconquer what was once their homland and the itermediate occupants tried to prevent it but were overwhelmed by force and now they are subjugated to Israel. The conqueror is master.
@@corydor4218 no not forever and they came from other continents and each wave killed or absorbed those from before. In fact were still killing each other when Europeans came. Are you on N. America? Planning to give your house and land back to the tribals because they were there first? Oh...the Arabs came AFTER the Israelites who ARE THE NATIVES 2 different ways...they started as a group of Cannanites, and became a separate culture and ethnic group in that land before the Arabs before the Muslims. The definition of indigenous. You have no argument for a group of people with no cultural ties to the area and a fake from 1960s identity to havexany claim at all.
@@corydor4218 the Jews have been there thousands of years. It was under occupation never a country called Palestine. They are arabs...mostly Syrian and Egyptian. There is no such thing as a Palestinian...its a political ploy that started in 1960s that bigots like you buy into.
I think all of these groups have always lived there at the same time.
Lol, I was just thinking Shapiro gets to the point faster than I can think. Imagine he took up free styling
Go Israel
The dude being fact checked totally looks like a spoof.
His arguments are just as ridiculous too
Who is not absolutely fed up with these jew haters? A vocalubary consisting of 4 words,-which they probably do not know the meaning of. We stand with Israel.
Quite the fascist speech. Even for you
Al Husseini was quoted at saying he wanted the holy land to be part of the Syrian empire, the first and only leader of "Palastine" wasnt interested in palastine but a greater syria
They all scream "Khaybar Khaybar Ya Yahud!" So basically they are admitting the Jews were in the Middle East before.
The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.
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If God made Adam and Eve. And they obviously rooted twice and had 2 sons, Cain and Abel. Where did these two guys get their wives from? Anyone?
They try to say they are descendants of the Canaanites or the Philistines (sub tribe of the Canaanites), only the Canaanites weren't Arab, and neither were the Philistines who we now have evidence were Greek. What in the Nine Hells does "Free 'palestine'" even mean? Palestine never existed as anything but a region and by that definition, an Israeli Jew is a 'palestinian'. I can't take the ignorance. I'm so over it at this point.
I was waiting for this guy rathbone to be corrected
Masada vs the Roman empire. Those brave Arabs... oh, wait... they didn't come to Levant until 600 years later
i wonder why Israel is colonialist entity for taking land from the so called Palestinians but Jordan is not. People like to ignore the fact that the British gave a big part to Jordan.
God bless Israel!
If people think inhabitants of Gaza are refugees, what do they consider the Jewish Diaspora? Do they count the Arabs that came from the surrounding countries as refugees, or put them in the 30%?
History of PALESTINIAN STATE:
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Mamluk Sultanate, there was the Ayyubid Sultanate not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ayyubid Sultanate, there was the Frankish Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there were the Arab Caliphates like Rashiduns, Umayyads, Abbasids and Fatimids, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Arab Caliphates, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanid empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean Kingdom, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Seleucid empire, there was the Ptolemic Kingdom of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ptolemic Kingdom, there was the Macedonian empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Macedonian empire, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Persian Empire, there was the Neo-Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Neo-Babylonian Empire, there was the Neo-Assyrian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Neo-Assyrian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
Did the British government put a lot of people who didn’t live in that area into what is now called Israel post WW2? Yes. Did they then set up a religion based authoritarian government that systematically oppresses anyone who is not part of that religion? Yes. Did they then repeatedly and forcefully expand the borders that were previously set? Yes. Did they create an appartide state in which Palestinians have no rights, can have their possessions, home, and lives taken with no consequences to the government who takes them: Yes. Would that make most people angry and probably insurgent? Yes. Are they now using an attack from a group that they had previously funded when they were more convenient to completely destroy and entire group of people, bomb schools and hospitals, and even violently protest for their right to commit rape and torture? Yes. At this point, I’m not so much concerned with who was there first 5000 years ago. I’m concerned with the fact that they’ve systematically killed more than 40,000 people directly, hundreds of thousands indirectly but intentionally, and are currently engaged in rape, torture, and extermination and it needs to stop.
May I introduce you to the British plot to assist the Arab armies in war of independence, because of a colonial aspiration to gain a free supply of oil from Iraq through Syria and continue through what has become the state of Israel. Despite the British Mandate that was supposed to grant the Jews a homeland?
The name of the book is, if you ask is:
'Britain's Secret Crusade- the covert plot for control of the Middle East and the Arab-Israeli war, 1947-1948'. The author's name is : Ezra Nishri.
BTW they abstained from voting for the resolution of November 47, and they used to block ships of refugees of the Holocaust from coming to the land of Israel, but they are opening wide the gates of Britain
Actually the last sovereign state there was a Christian one. But I guess people always forget the crusader states.
Well seid
How can they be considered refugees if most of them were born in the Gaza Strip which is part of a future Palestinian state?
They should be classified as 'displaced persons'.
Just read the bible and you'll find who the real landlord is . 🇬🇧🇮🇱👍
Arabs have a state. Its called Jordan.
The jews conquered the canaanites of the coast and assimilated them well before the philistines arrived from across the Mediterranean. Modern 'Palestinians' are just Arab immigrants from across the ottoman empire. The original philistines had fully integrated with Jewish society by the time of Roman suzerainty. They simply called the coast Palestine because that's what the Greeks called the area since the time of mycenae 1500 years before.
Who was there before the jews
Hahahaha you gave Ben a free Express VPN advert
Allah is with Israel 4 ever
My Syrian mother is shocked shes considered European 😂 my dad is Iranian JEWS. Not Europeans at all but the narrative …:
If you ever feel dumb remember that Benny Shabibo lost a debate to a prerecorded TikTok video he pkcked out.
No Ben, Arabs don’t come from only Arabia. Palestinian Arabs have been shown to have Canaanite ancestors. And you live in America despite having no indigenous ancestors, right?
Growing up and reading the Bible and the history of Israel , I as a mixed race South African in the 1970's and 1980's wanted to be a Jew so badly.
Why? many reasons but the main one that stood out was the resilience of the Jewish people, despite the heavy odds stacked against them, all the adversity that they had to endure they stand firm ,tall and proud.
I realized that I cannot be a Jew but the next best thing a Passionate Zionist Supporter of Israel. Am Yisrael Chai.
Disclaimer: Apartheid mmmmm , I lived it in the 70's and 80's , I visited Israel a few years ago and to my Surprise no Apartheid, just warm and friendly people!!
Shalom and always remember to shout it out loud and proud ''AM YISRAEL CHAI''
It’s Arab pride! They can’t stand losing. It’s their honor and their father’s honor etc…
Ben made two fallacious arguments, one factual and one logical. First, NO most of the land proposed for a Jewish state in 1947 had not been Jewish owned. Only a small percentage was. Second, if Palestinians who weren’t born in Palestine have no claim to it, how did Ukraine native Golda Meir? Btw, Arafat was a Palestinian citizen at birth.
Can not accurately recorded history, that may be agreed upon as fact. Lead people to believe and understand the truth. As it would appear, most people lack the motivation to research accurately the recorded history and then form their statements and thoughts from that. Instead, they listen to ill informed people's dialogs that agree with their crowd mentally and thinking. Which clouds their minds to the truth until a point that their recall of the truth, is their own belief.
All Ben debunks is himself late at night.... How about he actually debates him
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Palestinian are the indigenous people of the land
No they not, they cam from Saudi Arabia.
Nope. They came in the 7th Century AD.
Based of my hystorical knowledge and wikipedia you can see the original colonizers:
Achaemenid Empire (Persian) 550 BC-330 BC, Fatimid Caliphate 909-1171, Timurid empire 1370-1507, Ottoman Empire 1299-1922.
*Edit: These are just the specifically arabic ones of course, but there is never a mention of the jews colonizing anything or coming from somewhere else other than around the world war events. But there are documents stating they originated there so I just don't understand these people. Then again, the wisest ones are usually silent and the stupid ones the loudest.