How do I know I would like this car? Motoman can’t stop smiling, giggling, and complementing the car in the first minute of the driving review. I think Jag nailed the design of this vehicle. Absolutely love it. Glad it exceeded your expectations! I appreciate your reviews.
It's nice to see a car still in production that blends so well with classics. Gives me hope that cars aren't all going to become self-driving phones on wheels.
This is a throwback car .. not necessarily a bad thing. In the years ahead there will still be a huge subset of buyers looking to keep their vehicles less about technology / electrification etc. and more about the ICE driving experience. This fills that bill. Great review !
I agree that this car should hold onto being a V8 without any EV wizardry, it makes it a unique offering. The issue is that it's more like a 90K car, so paying 120K seems downright insane. To me this is like buying a Hellcat, you have to love the engine and exhaust note so much you're willing to overlook all its shortcomings.
The F-Type is my favorite car of all time. I’d get one in British racing green with a tan interior. I agree with you that everything else nowadays is just better. But the F-Type is special and charming. At $115k, it’s quite expensive, but a used one in the $50k-$70k region is a bargain in my opinion.
Great Video! Really funny: We discussed the new design too - and came to the conclusion that we like the old version better. Especially the front lights.
I love my 2017 F-Type SVR. Traded my Z06 vet for and do not regret it one bit. Fantastic car and best off the production line exhaust ever made the Histonics (pops and burps) are crazy.
Completely agree with you regarding the black interior trim. Most F-Types do come with a really nice color contrasting interior that are pretty nice. Though the 911 does set the bar very high, they have turned into the white male's Harley Davidson of the 1990's. It is no secret that the 911 has become the trophy wife of the middle aged man; no fault of Porsche. The F-type was such a breath of fresh air, hope Jaguar can deliver with their new models as unlikely as that may be. Ian Callum's original F-Type, not the exterior refresh version, will be a timeless classic.
Trophy wife of the middle aged man…lol…Yeah, these cars are fast becoming status symbols first, and then good sports cars behind that. Just seems to be the way it’s going. I, as a middle aged man, also always saw myself in a 911 once I had the ability to purchase. That time came and I decided they were not for me. Great cars, don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t like the purchasing conditions around these cars these days. Add to this that they aren’t that exciting, and the fact that they don’t sound very good (vacuum cleaner), yeah…I’m not looking for a status symbol trophy wife, I’m looking for value for money that rings my bell. An F-type R is a far more interesting car in my books.
You need to move the camera that looks forward during your drive....the sunlight washes out the view and confuses the camera that is looking both at you on the inside and outside at the road (we can't see)
Where were you when I was looking for your review 6 months ago of an F-Type before I purchased a 2017 R? But I LOVE it!! I agree it's probably not as refined as a german, but the style and brute power / sound is what got me. The limits of handling can't reasonably be exceeded on the street and I consider it more of a GT. I call it a Viper that went to University. But for pure fun...I keep my miata right next to it.
As a fan of the Jaguar, that lives just a couple of miles from the factory, I agree about the black interior. Also, the screen works better in right hand drive. You can change the color to match your own choice, just talk to the dealer. As for the airconditioning, the squeak goes after a while. Old school superchargers beat turbo and hybrid engines, and this draws so much attention. Also, there are much more comfortable chair choices. Just saying.
"End of it's lifecycle" That is true, but the same goes for the E63S and E400 you tested 3 months ago. Nothing wrong testing facelifted cars imo. Keep it going.
As an F-type driver I don't find myself lusting after the facelift. The V8 sound is very muted compared to older models due to regulations. The interior has no interesting changes, the digital tachometer looks horrible. And the front while beeing more in line with other jaguars looks flat and I think the older model looks better. If I would go for another F-type after the V8s, I would much rather get the SVR
The new headlights make it look more Maserati & less Jaguar. I completely agree on the materials, Jaguar is sadly suffering from the Ford mentally. My only other complainat is that shutline, it reminds me of the F01 7-series & its awful hood shutline. Given Jaguar's new direction, I think the F-type will be the last of its kind.
Once Ford sold jaguar the F type came about. Ford almost killed jaguar. Look at the interior on a $105K Shelby GT500 carbon track pack. Just a mustang rental car on the inside. That’s Ford for you they just don’t get it.
What many don't realize is that the 5.0 in Jags and LRs are actually a de-tuned Ford Coyote Gt-500 engine , which can easily be tuned for a much much higher output ...in Q42021 the ford agreement expires and LRJAG is going to the awful high engine oil consuming BMW 4.4 V8 twin turbo .
I have a strange affection for that forward-opening hood. I wish they did that on the Miata. I don't know why, I just think it'd be cool (plus it would be easier to brush snow off of, ha ha)
Exactly my thoughts. the styling and powertrains are timeless, but the interior fit/finish and tech were honestly old even when this car first came out 10 years ago, let alone in today's market. While $105K isn't exactly too much for the market that Jaguar wants to be in, but there are just way too many competitions in this price range with an out-of-date product.
It looks great - still! I remember the time it was released - I liked it much more then now and after the facelifting . The ZF is just wrong, should be doubleclutch or manual. Never drove one though, so I trust your review :) But it looks too much $ for this price range compared to the competition.
Fellow sunroof lover here. Is this fixed-glass roof, an acceptable compromise for you? Just doesn't cut it if it doesn't open and allow for semi-open top airy motoring right?
They are the differing types of linear motion. Think about how the weight of a car can shift based on your steering input, speed, road type, brake input, etc.. That would translate to the following: 1. ) Rear end of the car would 'squat' under hard acceleration. 2.) Nose of the car would 'dive' under hard braking. 3.) Depending on your steering input and speed, the car could 'pitch' to one side.
You think / know if there will ever be a new version of the F-Type? Still with a fossil burning engine? I guess they are struggling like every car maker right now hot to get electric...
Very informative video. I agree the interior is inferior to the current competition and in my opinion it’s grossly overpriced. And they are charging almost $50,000 extra for the V8!
Goes on and on about "fit and finish"...doesn't document any of it. Says "Corvette has a better interior..." Oh, boy. Now I understand the perspective at work here.
I agree. I sat in the F-type R recently at a dealer and thought the interior was fine. More than fine. The sound and looks of this car more than make up for any problems someone might have about the interior in my view. I don’t have any issues with the interior myself, but that’s just me. The style of it certainly suits me better than the boy racer interior of a C8. Also, C8s have a lot of fit and finish problems…Porsche is damn near perfect in that regard, but C8s not even close. As for talking about the black interior…Stuff like that is so subjective and to taste, it’s almost ridiculous even making it a point in any serious review. Bit silly. Porsches of late, lots of rattles in them as well, and they sound like vacuum cleaners in comparison. An LC500 over this car? Yeah, if you like slow cars.
C8 is just to tame engine wise. and the rear is square with boxes everywhere. So I like the smooth lines and hips on the F Type SVR. No the C8 is a mixed up design that doesn’t flow very well. To many lines going in different directions. How could GM mess up a mid-engine layout. Terrible design by the people who designed the rear of the C7. Period.
Cannot agree more, the C8 is majorly over styled. I do like the Z06 more than the base car, but still over styled. This f-type is a cut above in the looks department without a doubt. Not unlike the Callum designed AM Vantage…incredible…
The f type was an incredible car when it debuted. But it’s now over styled and under equipped. JLR is going EV soon anyway so we should enjoy what they offer, however rattly and quirky it is.
The cars a has a very attractive design. On camera at least, that color takes those beautiful curves and flattens then into two dimensions. This is Jags best and in today's crop of sports cars it just seems to fall short. I don't know the actual numbers but my gut tells me financially, Jaguar is circling the drain. I hope I am wrong.
Front looks like someone beat the Mustang GT with an ugly stick. The rear is classic Jag. But the diffuser is too much. The pre refresh Type S looks really nice.
I wonder how jaguar thinks to survive by only doing electric cars. Imho they should squeeze all the jaguar brand power by doing only super luxury v8/v12, Less numbers, bigger mark up. And make a whole new brand for electric only, as we seen that evey ev startup is worth as much as ferrari before even sell a single car (like that "scam" called rivian). By making jaguar electric they'll just destroy an historical name. But I'm just a random guy, why the should listen to me?! Jaguar is doa
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How do I know I would like this car? Motoman can’t stop smiling, giggling, and complementing the car in the first minute of the driving review. I think Jag nailed the design of this vehicle. Absolutely love it. Glad it exceeded your expectations! I appreciate your reviews.
It's nice to see a car still in production that blends so well with classics. Gives me hope that cars aren't all going to become self-driving phones on wheels.
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This is a throwback car .. not necessarily a bad thing. In the years ahead there will still be a huge subset of buyers looking to keep their vehicles less about technology / electrification etc. and more about the ICE driving experience. This fills that bill. Great review !
Good point.
I agree that this car should hold onto being a V8 without any EV wizardry, it makes it a unique offering. The issue is that it's more like a 90K car, so paying 120K seems downright insane. To me this is like buying a Hellcat, you have to love the engine and exhaust note so much you're willing to overlook all its shortcomings.
The F-Type is my favorite car of all time. I’d get one in British racing green with a tan interior. I agree with you that everything else nowadays is just better. But the F-Type is special and charming. At $115k, it’s quite expensive, but a used one in the $50k-$70k region is a bargain in my opinion.
Great Video! Really funny: We discussed the new design too - and came to the conclusion that we like the old version better. Especially the front lights.
I drove the f type R some years back at the Houston auto show. Ever since I’ve been working hard to get one. That experience for me was unforgettable
I love my 2017 F-Type SVR. Traded my Z06 vet for and do not regret it one bit. Fantastic car and best off the production line exhaust ever made the Histonics (pops and burps) are crazy.
I think the Vet is more the comp for the F-type than a 911. A C4S is 40-60K more. I really dont understand why people try to compare them.
Please have more jaguars! You have got to get your hands on the new 2021 F-Pace!
Be careful what you wish for because you just may get it.
@@MotoManTV I love that response
Comparisons to the 911 are always appreciated.
Love the acceleration of this car!
Completely agree with you regarding the black interior trim. Most F-Types do come with a really nice color contrasting interior that are pretty nice. Though the 911 does set the bar very high, they have turned into the white male's Harley Davidson of the 1990's. It is no secret that the 911 has become the trophy wife of the middle aged man; no fault of Porsche. The F-type was such a breath of fresh air, hope Jaguar can deliver with their new models as unlikely as that may be. Ian Callum's original F-Type, not the exterior refresh version, will be a timeless classic.
Trophy wife of the middle aged man…lol…Yeah, these cars are fast becoming status symbols first, and then good sports cars behind that. Just seems to be the way it’s going. I, as a middle aged man, also always saw myself in a 911 once I had the ability to purchase. That time came and I decided they were not for me. Great cars, don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t like the purchasing conditions around these cars these days. Add to this that they aren’t that exciting, and the fact that they don’t sound very good (vacuum cleaner), yeah…I’m not looking for a status symbol trophy wife, I’m looking for value for money that rings my bell. An F-type R is a far more interesting car in my books.
You need to move the camera that looks forward during your drive....the sunlight washes out the view and confuses the camera that is looking both at you on the inside and outside at the road (we can't see)
Where were you when I was looking for your review 6 months ago of an F-Type before I purchased a 2017 R? But I LOVE it!! I agree it's probably not as refined as a german, but the style and brute power / sound is what got me. The limits of handling can't reasonably be exceeded on the street and I consider it more of a GT. I call it a Viper that went to University. But for pure fun...I keep my miata right next to it.
May have to steal that 'Viper that went to University' line . . . :)
As a fan of the Jaguar, that lives just a couple of miles from the factory, I agree about the black interior. Also, the screen works better in right hand drive. You can change the color to match your own choice, just talk to the dealer. As for the airconditioning, the squeak goes after a while. Old school superchargers beat turbo and hybrid engines, and this draws so much attention. Also, there are much more comfortable chair choices.
Just saying.
Whether you class it as a throwback or not... it's a beauty and I WANT one... sadly on their website I can't find the yellow.... nor the 100 grand :(
Love it!
Bought one!
Proper motor!
World beautiful car
"End of it's lifecycle" That is true, but the same goes for the E63S and E400 you tested 3 months ago. Nothing wrong testing facelifted cars imo. Keep it going.
Nice coupe but idk if it will sell. Jag needs to do a redesign and draw in new buyers
As an F-type driver I don't find myself lusting after the facelift. The V8 sound is very muted compared to older models due to regulations. The interior has no interesting changes, the digital tachometer looks horrible. And the front while beeing more in line with other jaguars looks flat and I think the older model looks better. If I would go for another F-type after the V8s, I would much rather get the SVR
Agree - I have a 2018 6 cylinder. I would go back to like a ‘16, ‘17 SVR
Great review! Replacing my 2014 F-Type Roadster w this thing! 911s dont sound like that!
Really don’t care for the headlight change
Me too. They just had to slap the corporate face on this beauty.
When they first did the headlight change I hated it. Absolutely hated it. Now I think the Facelift is PuuuuurrrFECT.
The new headlights make it look more Maserati & less Jaguar.
I completely agree on the materials, Jaguar is sadly suffering from the Ford mentally. My only other complainat is that shutline, it reminds me of the F01 7-series & its awful hood shutline.
Given Jaguar's new direction, I think the F-type will be the last of its kind.
Once Ford sold jaguar the F type came about. Ford almost killed jaguar. Look at the interior on a $105K Shelby GT500 carbon track pack. Just a mustang rental car on the inside. That’s Ford for you they just don’t get it.
That’s why the F-Pace SVR for $20k less, louder and a wonderful new interior is the one to get :)
What many don't realize is that the 5.0 in Jags and LRs are actually a de-tuned Ford Coyote Gt-500 engine , which can easily be tuned for a much much higher output ...in Q42021 the ford agreement expires and LRJAG is going to the awful high engine oil consuming BMW 4.4 V8 twin turbo .
Such a great sounding car 🔥
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I have a strange affection for that forward-opening hood. I wish they did that on the Miata. I don't know why, I just think it'd be cool (plus it would be easier to brush snow off of, ha ha)
Exactly my thoughts. the styling and powertrains are timeless, but the interior fit/finish and tech were honestly old even when this car first came out 10 years ago, let alone in today's market. While $105K isn't exactly too much for the market that Jaguar wants to be in, but there are just way too many competitions in this price range with an out-of-date product.
What competes at $105k exactly? Thats a base 911, hard pass.
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It looks great - still! I remember the time it was released - I liked it much more then now and after the facelifting . The ZF is just wrong, should be doubleclutch or manual. Never drove one though, so I trust your review :) But it looks too much $ for this price range compared to the competition.
The zf is excellent. I'd rather have a manual but it's good
I don’t blame you and I m Porsche guy too .
This car was in the hangar at the exact same time as a very special Porsche was . . . Kumo forced me to budget my time between the two.
Why not an F-Pace SVR to review?
F Pace has been unavailable in the fleet. Most likely late August on that one.
If you already owned a manual 911 and wanted to pick up a convertible sports car would you pick this in topless form or the Lexus 500?
This car doesn’t look near as good as a convertible
@@jackemerson1171 this and different application - the Lexus is much more a GT then a sports-car. With taste one cannot argue.
LC500 every day. Twice on Sunday.
@@MotoManTV Thanks!
@@MotoManTV heard some people say the LC500 exhaust note was very good but not loud enough. what are your thoughts on that Motoman?
Such a nice looking car .I agree the front end on the new one is boring compared to the early models
Fellow sunroof lover here. Is this fixed-glass roof, an acceptable compromise for you? Just doesn't cut it if it doesn't open and allow for semi-open top airy motoring right?
I kinda like it . . . especially in this car as it does make the interior much more livable.
It is not to create an acoustic chamber - it's an option on other models, and there is a blind cover. It's there because the R is fully specced.
Still looks good value compared to an Aston Martin Vantage
Isn’t this just a mid cycle refresh for the f-type ?
Yep.
Motoman, what the heck is the difference between, pitch, squat and dive?
They are the differing types of linear motion. Think about how the weight of a car can shift based on your steering input, speed, road type, brake input, etc.. That would translate to the following:
1. ) Rear end of the car would 'squat' under hard acceleration.
2.) Nose of the car would 'dive' under hard braking.
3.) Depending on your steering input and speed, the car could 'pitch' to one side.
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Sadly Jaaag have other priorities at the moment than updating the F-Type (which is made about 4 miles from me...)
You think / know if there will ever be a new version of the F-Type? Still with a fossil burning engine? I guess they are struggling like every car maker right now hot to get electric...
Yea jaguar dropped the ball with the interior even after the refresh
And they toned it down from the original one.. used to be louder and crazier sounding
Very informative video. I agree the interior is inferior to the current competition and in my opinion it’s grossly overpriced. And they are charging almost $50,000 extra for the V8!
still its way cheaper than a 911 4s and one can argue BETTER
This thing has a ''hairy chest'' and it doesn't mind showing it to yah ( haha )
Looks like the love child of a Mustang and Ferrari FF
65k in 3 years with less than 30k miles HODL on the purchase.
I LOVE it !!!!!
Yay, balanced review. Such a beautiful car, such a shame.
Goes on and on about "fit and finish"...doesn't document any of it. Says "Corvette has a better interior..." Oh, boy. Now I understand the perspective at work here.
Sit in one instead of being a keyboard hero
I agree. I sat in the F-type R recently at a dealer and thought the interior was fine. More than fine. The sound and looks of this car more than make up for any problems someone might have about the interior in my view. I don’t have any issues with the interior myself, but that’s just me. The style of it certainly suits me better than the boy racer interior of a C8. Also, C8s have a lot of fit and finish problems…Porsche is damn near perfect in that regard, but C8s not even close. As for talking about the black interior…Stuff like that is so subjective and to taste, it’s almost ridiculous even making it a point in any serious review. Bit silly. Porsches of late, lots of rattles in them as well, and they sound like vacuum cleaners in comparison. An LC500 over this car? Yeah, if you like slow cars.
It is beast
115,000 I'll take the lc 500. I don't drive that fast anyway.
or u can buy it used for half the price :D
Seeing as the interior has basically not changed at all, and that even the V6 sounds amazing, it's not a bad idea
sliding callipers on a $100k car that is supposed to be a performance sports car? Should be a fixed 4 or 6 piston on the front at the very least
These are upgraded sport brakes (other models get smaller discs), but the R can also be optioned with carbon brakes
C8 is just to tame engine wise. and the rear is square with boxes everywhere. So I like the smooth lines and hips on the F Type SVR. No the C8 is a mixed up design that doesn’t flow very well. To many lines going in different directions. How could GM mess up a mid-engine layout. Terrible design by the people who designed the rear of the C7. Period.
Oh and your 911 was designed back in 1965 fellow. So don’t call the F Type old school design. 4 years old for Pete sakes.
Cannot agree more, the C8 is majorly over styled. I do like the Z06 more than the base car, but still over styled. This f-type is a cut above in the looks department without a doubt. Not unlike the Callum designed AM Vantage…incredible…
Would choose an f type over a 911 all day, every day
The f type was an incredible car when it debuted. But it’s now over styled and under equipped. JLR is going EV soon anyway so we should enjoy what they offer, however rattly and quirky it is.
Don’t complain too much. The replacement for this will be an EV. This is the last supercharged V8 you’ll ever be able to buy.
The cars a has a very attractive design. On camera at least, that color takes those beautiful curves and flattens then into two dimensions. This is Jags best and in today's crop of sports cars it just seems to fall short. I don't know the actual numbers but my gut tells me financially, Jaguar is circling the drain. I hope I am wrong.
Am I the only one who thinks it looks like a mustang?
I don't see it but others seem to agree.
If you're drunk and standing on your head so it's full of alcohol-enriched blood, sure.
What in the world are you and others thinking?! A Mustang? You have to be kidding me. Lol,my gawd
100th!
Front looks like someone beat the Mustang GT with an ugly stick. The rear is classic Jag. But the diffuser is too much. The pre refresh Type S looks really nice.
I wonder how jaguar thinks to survive by only doing electric cars.
Imho they should squeeze all the jaguar brand power by doing only super luxury v8/v12, Less numbers, bigger mark up.
And make a whole new brand for electric only, as we seen that evey ev startup is worth as much as ferrari before even sell a single car (like that "scam" called rivian).
By making jaguar electric they'll just destroy an historical name.
But I'm just a random guy, why the should listen to me?! Jaguar is doa
Agree 100% - I have an F type and have done a bunch of surveys for Jaguar. I’ve them there is zero chance I would ever buy an electric sports car