CRITICAL THINKING - Fundamentals: Deductive Arguments

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  • In this Wireless Philosophy video, Geoff Pynn (Northern Illinois) follows up on his introduction to critical thinking by exploring how deductive arguments give us reason to believe their conclusions. Good deductive arguments guarantee their conclusions, and so must be valid (i.e., it must be impossible for the premises to be true while the conclusion is false) and have true premises. Philosophers call arguments like these "sound". You can see whether an argument is sound by trying to think of a counterexample to it, but to see whether its premises are true, you need to do some research.
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  • @TheEsteemedSirScrub
    @TheEsteemedSirScrub 9 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This was a whole week of lectures in just over 5 minutes. Wow.

  • @stephenrobertson6127
    @stephenrobertson6127 8 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Schools need to teach this subject starting in grade schools... Students are taught "what" to learn/ think but not "how" to.

    • @theistsaretheoriginalcon-a3194
      @theistsaretheoriginalcon-a3194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree!

    • @queensaharaice7376
      @queensaharaice7376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True.

    • @Sakaki98
      @Sakaki98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stephen Robertson
      True now more than ever.

    • @immortalfrieza
      @immortalfrieza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can't do that! Then our children would grow up actually able to not simply believe what they are told to believe. Our entire society couldn't function if filled with people who don't just blindly believe whatever authority tells them.

    • @batman5726
      @batman5726 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ambershah5741 Stephen means, right from the class 1.
      It would be devastating for the students if critical thinking is taught in maths only for the students who don't have interest in the subject. In northern Europe critical thinking is taught by taking the students out in the nature and to look around them.

  • @GungaLaGunga
    @GungaLaGunga ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thirty years ago in college I got a grade C in Introduction to Philosophy 101 class. I just didn't connect with the subject. It is amazing how people share knowledge for free on YT. Your videos are most excellent. Thank you!

  • @Starcrash6984
    @Starcrash6984 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It's such a well-animated video on an important topic that everyone should be familiar with... so why so few views? :(

    • @msmaisu2425
      @msmaisu2425 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean like you can do it since he used a website to make it

    • @rationallogic5325
      @rationallogic5325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because people are more interested in watching dog videos, make up tutorials and prank videos than learning something useful.

    • @soulreaperichig0
      @soulreaperichig0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It has quarter of a million views now.

  • @DavidAsh42
    @DavidAsh42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geoff has had a shave since the last video... I deduced this from the 2 photos.
    Thanks for these videos. The world needs this!

  • @beckanglin2376
    @beckanglin2376 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have been having a horrible time in my PHI class. I have no clue why I am not picking up on this material. I have a 4.0 for goodness sakes! My professor has been working his bootie off to assist me. I guess I am one of the doomed who is destined to never have any common sense. This video gets an A+ from me, but I do not think I have gotten it any better as of yet.

  • @skeblen7510
    @skeblen7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've become obsessed with developing my critical thinking skills ever since trump was elected president. I'm determined to help a couple of my republican friends see the error in their reasoning. Both are well educated and quite bright so I have a lot of work to do! Thank you for these wonderfully concise and clear videos!

    • @melloken8282
      @melloken8282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a republican, I gotta say I really really respect you. I wish the world was filled with people like you!

    • @razaabbas6605
      @razaabbas6605 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not American, but I feel like true logical and critical thinkers very quickly realize, that a large entity like a political party is far more challenging to judge than a single individual. While I can relate to democrats and their push for anti-racism freedom of religion and anti-discrimination, democrats are also keen on pushing values and ideologies that are not required for normal human function, such as extreme feminism, veganism/animal protection and LGBTQ+ ideas that most people are not comfortable with and especially wouldn't like their children to learn. Obviously, republicans have their own problems as well.
      But what do you think about Biden and comparing that to trump(tbh I think both are shit lol)

  • @salome9124
    @salome9124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that you write everything down makes it easy to write notes😊

  • @ZackGomez198035
    @ZackGomez198035 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am studying this for my critical reading class today. It has enough views when it's over 1,000 in my opinion.

  • @TheQuebecMan007
    @TheQuebecMan007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im so happy this pass trough my feed !

  • @omarellsayyed
    @omarellsayyed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really nice video, but the subtitles are a few seconds of sync.

  • @tasnimshafiqprapty9797
    @tasnimshafiqprapty9797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @linguaphilly
    @linguaphilly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:16 I think this is beautiful because it demonstrates that the rules of logic and deduction were established using induction

  • @lane99
    @lane99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @4:34 Did he mean "even if you know the argument is VALID"? He said "sound".

  • @jkk902
    @jkk902 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Induction is when we get the conclusion which is most probable from the premises. We cannot be certain of this. Deduction is when we are certain from the premises. In the fictitious character Sherlock Holmes, he is actually practicing Induction instead of Deduction. I think Sir Arthur Conan Doyle did this to add to Sherlock's ego.

    • @ThatisnotHair
      @ThatisnotHair ปีที่แล้ว

      All detactives use Abductive reason which is pinnacle of human knowledge. Deductive reasoning won't get you actually anywhere other within basic assumptions

  • @jedboy97
    @jedboy97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If I attack an argument because it commits an informal logical fallacy (begging the question, ad hominem, etc.), am I attacking its logical validity or its soundness?

    • @entivreality
      @entivreality 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe that you would be attacking the validity of the argument. Fallacies stand as illusory inferential links between premises. Once those fallacies are illuminated, it becomes clear that the conclusions do not follow from the premises.

    • @Russgenstein
      @Russgenstein 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It depends on which fallacy is being committed. The two fallacies you bring up are good examples to show the distinction. Ad hominem employs an irrelevant premise so the argument would be invalid--the conclusion is not guaranteed if the premises are true. Begging the question employs a premise that if true guarantees that the conclusion is true, so it is technically a valid argument. But the premise is unacceptable because it is assuming the conclusion and thus the argument would not be sound.

  • @HeavenKeller
    @HeavenKeller 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was so helpful!

  • @icedcortex
    @icedcortex 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Subtitles aren't in sync...

  • @raasshaaadd697
    @raasshaaadd697 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you offer or know of any interactive online resources that will help with retention and mastery of this topic. For the ones not in college or pursuing secondary education?

  • @yeghor
    @yeghor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's like a logical type equation.

  • @KevinLosani
    @KevinLosani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is he using the south park typeface?

  • @idkwhattonamemyacxount88
    @idkwhattonamemyacxount88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can one of the premises be false and the conclusion can still be true

  • @ehza
    @ehza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn ... This is Gold!!

  • @soinite
    @soinite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that drawing thing some people do in their video is actually interfering instead of helping. At least in my case.

  • @okc4224
    @okc4224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If a deductive argument has false premise does that mean that the conclusion is also false?

    • @davidh.4944
      @davidh.4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If a premise is false then the argument is unsound. That does not _necessarily_ mean the conclusion is false, but it does mean that the argument does not support it.
      Men named David are the sexiest men in the world.
      My name is David.
      Therefore I am one of the sexiest men in the world.
      (Unsound, but valid, and undeniably true. 😁)

    • @idkwhattonamemyacxount88
      @idkwhattonamemyacxount88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u ever figure out the answer lol

    • @idkwhattonamemyacxount88
      @idkwhattonamemyacxount88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidh.4944 do u know why it’s hard to have good logic plausibility and interest all within one argument

  • @Joseph-fs9bf
    @Joseph-fs9bf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the premises being true entails the truth of the conclusion, then how is it possible that Beyonce not appreciating opera is not valid?

  • @jamilaseghrouchni5948
    @jamilaseghrouchni5948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please add arabic subtitles on this course

  • @paulyhart
    @paulyhart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can't hear you.

  • @LaraKim
    @LaraKim หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about if Monty attends the party via zoom?

  • @carlstevenson709
    @carlstevenson709 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @Romeo370Z
    @Romeo370Z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't technically a classical musician hate opera?

    • @matheusmelo6022
      @matheusmelo6022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's why the conclusion does not draw from the premises and the argument is therefore invalid.

    • @gerardkankiewicz5121
      @gerardkankiewicz5121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course. Opera music is written for singers not musicians. Outside of overtures and beloved arias, opera music is rather ordinary and, often, repetitive.

    • @davidh.4944
      @davidh.4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matheusmelo6022 Not quite right, I believe. The conclusion doesn't follow from the premises (and is invalid) because it doesn't take into account the possibility that pop singers can love opera, too. If the first premise were narrowed to "ONLY classical musicians appreciate opera", or changed to "pop singers don't appreciate opera", then it would be valid.
      The argument is _unsound_ because classical musicians can indeed hate opera (the first premise, as given, is false), in addition to it being invalid.

  • @dirtypimpbird
    @dirtypimpbird 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Good..

  • @red_llama7595
    @red_llama7595 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WiFi video?

    • @IBlabomba
      @IBlabomba 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WiPhi = Wireless Philosophy

  • @Drbob369
    @Drbob369 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Proof by assertion seems to rule TH-cam lol

  • @sumanaspirit
    @sumanaspirit ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent series. But at 4:34 minutes the speaker says "now if you don't know whether the premises or an argument are true, then even if the argument really is rsound then it doesn't give you a good reason to believe its conclusion." Did he mean "valid" instead of "sound" here? Because the premises have to be true in order for an argument to be sound. Was that just the spoken equivalent of a typo?

  • @succulentbrown
    @succulentbrown ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for using a relatable example with Beyoncé. Too many “teachers” use boring examples that make you tune them out.

  • @adeelshah2329
    @adeelshah2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz explain critical thinking perfectly

  • @flatgash
    @flatgash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You state at the start that it is impossible for the premises to be true while the conclusion is false. Later in the video, with the counter argument about Beyoncé, you show how the premises are true, but the conclusion is false - something you earlier stated was impossible. Please help!

  • @MikhaelAhava
    @MikhaelAhava 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not gonna lie, I think this is a hard topic.

  • @ThatisnotHair
    @ThatisnotHair ปีที่แล้ว

    *VVIP* 5:17

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The definition of Validity was always an iffy definition. Let there be premises A = True ,B = False ,C=True, Ergo Z, still be valid despite Z has nothing to do with the premises. Just Saying. Soundness had a better definition than Validity. Soundness has to be both syntactically correct and semantically correct.

  • @davidfancovic772
    @davidfancovic772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    not ALL classical musicians have to appreciate opera :/