Apostle Orokpo & Selman Dey Vex for Dr Abel Damina Bcos He Want 2Spoil Work for Charlatans hand
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DR ABEL DAMINA IS ALSO BECOMING A TOPIC EVERY PASTORS ARE TALKING ABOUT......The problem here is that DR ABEL CROSS CARPET . WHY WILL HE CROSS-CARPET ?
How do you mean why he crossed carpet? He said he felt empty despite the fact that he acquired a lot from prosperity preaching, transactional and material gospel, he repented and started preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
Why are you trying to nail him on the cross again?
@@emmanuellawrence5482 He confessed he was at the brink of death. His health became worse. This led him to change his ways. Should he continue to displease the God who saved him? People do not understand why he took his present stand on the Gospel. The journey to obtain salvation is an individual decisions- not collective.
If there is so much involved in preaching modern day gospel then LET THE PASTORS GIVE ACCOUNT OF THE FUNDS COMING. BECAUSE OF THE SUPER SURPLUS OF THEIR GOSPEL TRANSACTIONS. HENCE THEY BUY JETS FOR THEIR COMFORT AND LEAVE THEIR MEMBERS HOPELESSLY POOR.
I hope you understand what apostle Selman was trying to say. For you to add this clip to your post means you don't even know what you are doing...
Listen very well and get understanding bread and seed (saving) he didn't say give it to the church or man of God
Some of the Pastors are cunning, they preach prosperity in a way that you will think they are not stealing from you? They are the worst, they empty your pocket cunningly, this Selman is a big thief....I shed tears for these gullible people...😢😢😢
God is using Dr Abel to sanitize the pulpits. To God be all glory.
True
My take is: If giving is biblical or not, the churh MUST help the needy especially now that there's an unprecedented hunger in the land.
Pastor Abel is very sound and direct full of wisdom.May God to protect you against the evil preachers of the word of God .Pastor Abel the word of God preached are full of wisdom.
The apostles in acts sold their lands and brought the money and it was redistributed amongst them, what do we have today? Money is brought to one man and he keeps it to accumulate wealth to himself to brag about being the richest pastor with jets etc while members wallow in lack
Dr Abel Damian is A Eye opener and Preach On Brother my good God be with you 🙏🙏
Is an eye opener only to fools and selfish people who don't want to give for the gospel
@@REVFREDEMMANUEL247You are talking like a woman who broke shame on a man to guilt trip him in order to make him bring out his money, that's a scam in the religious circle
Our beliefs should only be in what the Bible says, what does the Bible say? Does the Bible say otherwise with what Abel said above? If no prove me wrong.
I am not for any preacher but the gospel of Christ.
Meanwhile, I listened to AJS ministration even in full length prior now.
Apostle Joshua Selman simply communicated wisdom and financial literacy with no iota of extortion whatsoever.
The context in which AJS spoke also has nothing to do with tithe, offering, et cetera.
You may have to listen again or get the complete sermon.
Shalom!
Dr Pastor Abel Damina is Preaching the Doctrine of Jesus Christ Raw and undiluted, He need to Teach all these Malachi chap 3 Pastors who are always after money, Listen to this Man now, This is a New rebirth in Christianity, Dr Damina Preach it,
The lavish lifestyle of some preachers tells us much. Christians should not be compelled to give. Let their understanding and love of God be the reason why they give.
Thank you Dr Damina
Orokpo should know that commerciaịised gospel is gone. otillo!!
Pastors are just inspirational speakers ... That's all
More like motivational.
Abel Damina is not saying that people should not give to the church willingly, he is saying pastors should not it compulsory to pay tithe and saying those who don't will face the wrath of God as well as live in poverty with no prosperity opportunities
God Bless you sir. More grace to Pastor Damina
Abel damina.....is not afraid of you transactional preachers. He was once like you but now changed for good.
I love Damina❤
Selman and orokpo are just saying nonsense ,i pity their followers😂
Why is there teaching always about giving,seed,tithe and account and not transformation of the heart and repentance...bunch of thieves...
Beneficiary of the loot.
Do you believe the church should rise to assist in time of need if as a member or regular attendee, do not give even though you have the financial resources?
You are a fool
May the lord judge every preacher according to their deeds, but every man with good sense will know that the gospel cannot reach the ends of the earth without great wealth being transferred to the church,
If I have 1 trillion dollar and the church need 1 trillion, I can give it all without any pastor persuading me,
You can not reach out to souls without funds guys, what is all these talk self..
Clear an perfect. Gospel of christ will shine everywhere
A god that always needs something from you before blessing you is not the true god. Honorable Dr. Abel Damina is the only true original man of GOD in Nigeria
He is not the only one though, I can tell for a fact I know Pastors who teach the true gospel in Nigeria
@@johnsonedim5988 give me names
How can u say that Damina is the only man of God in Nigeria,
Damina is not just fake but an antichrist, a satanist, a false teacher n a manipulator n a deceiver, n soonest God Almighty will soon expose n disgrace him for whom he is
How can a so called preacher like Damina claim that , there is no place called heaven , where believers in Christ Jesus will be going to , when their time on earth is over
And the bible teaches that heaven is the dwelling place of God Almighty, n there my Lord Jesus Christ will take the true believers to,
While Damina claims there were no such place as heaven
How can Damina claim , he shutdown churches in USA, n he is here to shutdown churches in Nigeria, n he is intentionally contradicting every doctrines n teachings of my Lord Jesus Christ,
Damina has been equiped by his master the devil, he has a contractual covenanted agreement with the devil, n he cant relent, cause otherwise he will be dealt with decisively,
Haven't u noticed that Damina had never preached salvation messages, he has never talked about Jesus Christ birth, death , resurrection, n his second coming,
He can never talked about sin n Satan
I challenge Damina to preach against Satan n exalt Jesus Christ n see if Damina will survive
Just imagine , saying that heaven is not our goal,
Damina is satanist,
I don't know u you are, but listen to me, if God did not gave his only son, u and I won't have salvation today. even native doctor can not do anything for u without giving. giving are of different types. but u see many of us can spend our money in frivolity but giving to God's work is like a sin to us . if God bless u what is th e assurance that u will even give back to God.
I love this man
Lol ...oga... you people re so so so low in mind set...lol Abel is using the mindset of nigeria that all that all pastors are collecting church tithe... only fools.... will believe abel damina.. lol people come to you in the office..and give you seed ...damina is the number 1 hypocrite i know..thank God am strong...in my faith
That Bible portion that he quoted about believers selling their land and giving the proceed to the church was actually for the poor members of the church 🤔🤔
Do mind the thieves. The Bible says the proceeds were shared among the needy members according to their needs.
Money money money, this Selman is also after prosperity, house of God is not to be preaching merchandise. Haha.
How is he preaching prosperity here you are just blinded by the truth the man is teaching. He is teaching us not to be wastful and manage our resources, having a future mentality instead of impression mentality
Peopel are even saying amen for 419 pastors
That’s the BIG PROBLEM
@@Manu-e3i can u imanging
Sometimes the way we title videos to prove a point is so annoying. Orokpo and Selman only preached in their normal voices that they usually preached with.
Chaiiiiii Abel you've spoiled this people business.those that auto proclaimed themselves men of God because they think they can easily deceive people and collect their money in the name of tithe and seed.all glory to Jesus Christ for using you to cleanse His territory.
😂😂 you are the same fool like him
Putting Selman is plain madness
AjS point is clear and simple
Tell the people that the reason for giving to the church is for the upkeep of the church and other expenses,
Very simpleeeeee, but no dey prefer to twist the bible for gain
See them, it's all about bring bring, all the one you have received what did you do with it.
Good business
Buying private jets, bullet proof cars and building gigantic structures for themselves and concubines…
Damina has not refused pple to give ooo. He is against the prosperity gospel sir.
He is not against PROSPERITY GOSPEL, the BIBLE IS THE ONE THAT IS AGAINST IT.. So he is preaching what the Bible says and not what he himself says
Give out of generosity.
Have can him refuse prosperity gospel, that's why your children are going to Satan because they have no trueth
One criminal said he gave God 1million dollars that is why he is one of the wealthy pastor in the world.can you imagine that shit...wer did he see God and gave him 1million dollars and where did get 1million dollars? Wer did work? He made the money from his members offering,seed and tithe.1million dollars he claimed he gave God still goes back to his pocket.someone should prove me wrong
Scammers and 149s parading themselves as pastors.
God help me to finish strong.......... Grace 🙏🙏🙏🙏
The problem is not the giving but the teaching attached to that giving....
Thank you my brother
Giving is life, giving is everything, giving is love, you cant live without giving.
Christ gave his life for sinner that dint even deserve it.
Make everyone rest abeg
I love dr able damina for life,right on sir
Orokpo it’s God who provides, so He will give you the provision. Orokpo it’s God who’s the Source who will provide the Resources to the Body of Christ.
OROKPO needs many more preaching engagements 😂
Distribution was made after they sold their land. you forgot to say that
And they gave to everyone according to their needs. Is that happening today?
@@HeavenlyMessages-bm1duWhat do they use the money after giving? Is it for distribution to the poor? You know the answer already
Which msg are listening to, is it this same 1 😂
@@nanagyimah2842lol... I wonder o...😂
Let people give freely and willingness. Not persuading them to give and I they don't pay tithe he is not going to heaven.
We in American church hardly pay money for anything, you give willingly and nobody preach or force you to.
However, some other American churches also preach like Nigerian churches persuading people to pay tithe and offering.
DAMINA PREACHES THE TRUE GOSPEL. ITS A PICTURE OF REPENTANCE. AND ALL THESE GOSPEL SUPERSTARS DONT WANA LOOSE STATUS THTS WHY TTHEY FIGHT
Eye opener eye opener Shai
More grace papa Damian ❤
Ask Orokpo if he has sold his land and give to those that lack in his church?
But the problem is that we have been bringing to apostles feet and there is still plenty lack in the church and land, because the apostles have been stealing from all the collections like Judas Iscariot
U KNOW THE REASON PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO ABEL DAMINA IS BECAUSE PASTORS PREACH AND NOBODY QUESTIONS THEM. IF U ASK ANY QUESTION- THEY TELL U " TOUCH NOT MY ANNOINTED AND DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM" . FORTUNATELY DAMIN HIMSELF A PASTOR HIMSELF , IS SEEN AS SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF.
You're right
TITHING is different from OFFERING.
Orokpo is talking about OFFERING (giving willingly) not TITHING which is COMPULSORY 10%
Everything sold was shared according to the needs of members. Pple now go into ministry bc it has become very lucrative. So sad Jesus has shown the example asap shown
And it is only members that bring, these pastors keep accumulating; evil shepherd
God bless you Dr Able Dami
This teaching can function in Africa, in this developing country where everyone lives with their monthly salary, and struggle to reach the end of the month. But those who get their money through other ways are different.
Many people in Africa do not have any salary at all.
Abel damina... please keep keeping them restless day in day out.
Abel Damina said, no tithe, no offering, no seed no pledge of any kind, good. Question, how does he run his church? On the generating plant, the transmission and the rest? And if he money he spent is from his pocket, how den does he make the money? Please I need answers.
They put everything together and they lack nothing, but today only one man and family eating and the members lack
They will shed tears, because Abel has become rebel in the kingdom of God.
Listen to both preachers they are not extorting anyone they are only communicating biblical practices and financial wisdom..... The early church gave nòt to pastors but for the progress or the advancement of the kindgom of God. Listen to Orokpo ' the money was given not to increase the pastor wealth but for kingdom advancement ' na only carnal mind go take this message with a wrong mindset
Una must defend useless things . Is that how they preach wen they travel abroad abi na only Nija those preaching say work
@@emmanuelgodwin9388 Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo preaches not in Nigeria and that's his typical style so don't just sit one sided and think it's only here such is preached. But for keeping record straight, it's so glaring u didn't listen to both preachers preaches or what their messages intent. You only drew conclusion from what the narrator was trying to put out to suit his click bait title. The title of this video is totalling different from the views of both preachers Shalom
The properties they sold was so that none was needy in the church. Please read it well
@@FadekeOmeh so what's advancement of the gospel? Or advancement of the kingdom of God if not that the needy and widows are taken care of and gospel is preached via all means n all of us sure know money is d vehicle for these to be achieved. Orokpo standing point is centered on the means through which gospel reaches the unsaved,talk of media,gadgets and various channels such is distributed and God will not come down to settle this na d children of the kingdom who will partner in faith to support God's work not for any ulterior motive or blessing in quote but doing it cheerfully not forced,coerced or compelled so what's wrong with that?... if anyone is needy such should work. The church isn't a place for financial blessing its a place to fellowship with God and His word. In the days of the Apostles it is expedient that those who have or those who are rich should sell their properties so that they can have means by which they can concentrate on gospel fully as many of.them left their works to fully center on missionary work so it's the duty of the brethren to have their needs being met. If that's not the case I don't see the need for that In this era
Go back and listen and read again. I am not Here for argument
Know God for yourself and give as your spirit convince you to
Lets give the right way, givi g must start with oeoe giving themselves to the Lord then they will give themselves to serve. Lets follow the way of the apostles, lets stop manipulating people, lets stop intimidating people, giving must be cheerful and according to hiw one has been blessed by the Lord and how they have determined in their heart.
I was respecting selman until God opened my eyes to see how deceptive he is and now I don't want nothing from him let him keep working for his master the devil
God bless you for this truth. Our eye don tear. God bless Dr Abel Damina
It is because the early church were communal in nature. But today pastors are the richest, they extort and are never sarisfied. Look at the sharp contrast between the have and have not in the church
Pastors are now crying river because of the only doc of the Bible
Those who understand the gospel of Christ don't just preach repentance only but they preach and teach the WHOLE COUNSEL of God. TRUTH is good but THE WHOLE TRUTH is best. Stop abusing servants of God because of your limited understanding!
These men of god are misunderstanding Dr Abel
He. Didnt say people should stop giving... He just want these men of god to stop extorting people
Pastor Abel Damina, you are a servant of the Most High just as other servants of God are. Now, can you please obey Roman's 14: 4 and stop this embarrassment to the kingdom of God. God did not call you to help watch over His servants. Please go after the souls that are still wandering in darkness. Concerning tithe, what did Jesus say in Mathew 23:23 and Luke 11: 42. NLT version is very clear about it. Thanks .
Apostle Selman was talking about seed as the money you need to save for tomorrow's sake, not to give to the church. Bloggers can be so misleading
they are Thieves.
OROKPO'S ESTRANGED MENTOR HAD WARNED HIM LONG AGO 😊
The media is profitable too,orokpo you can monetize your media too
These pastors/priests, you either repent or go down 👇🏽
May God help us.
The hustle is real, all man in their playing harder 😂
And I'm part of your audience sir...
Nice one brother🎉
Let everybody look for meaningful work to do and stop using the altar to dupe the poor people
Oyedipo and ibiyeomie should be arrested for fraud
Excellent comment. Those guys are 419 pastors
@@tanksmakau7672 They're telling their gullible followers that if the money in your hands is not enough for you(little) it's a seed and you should give it to them 😡,I'm really angry EFCC has not touched these fraudsters.
They're telling their gullible followers that if the money in your hands is not enough (little) it's a seed and you should give it to them and you become broke, EFCC should capture these yahoo yahoo pastors 😡
Don't say things that you are not sure about pls. Where were you when bishop used all he had to start the work of God? Now God blessing is showing around him and you are angry. What generation that is not interested in history.
@@folakeolayinka7183point of correction sir, he didn't just start the work of God, he started his business, using church as the platform. Rest!
Damian is another John the Baptist in this last days
So he teaches the people to sell their land and bring the money to the church, but he can't sell his own house and land 🤔 😮😢
Abel Damina should have nothing to do with money from any members if his church, wether its a free will offering he should nit collect, let the gospel he preaches should put diesel in the plant, the gospel should clothe him feed him and run the church without money... He is leading so much people astray, and i am not surprised of the prophecy of the scripture, at the last day false prophets shall arise......
Is tithe for private jets? What they sold were brought, to the feet of the Apostles and were distributed among all the members so that no one will lack. Today are you distributing any thing to your members? What you have already got from members is ok for you to do the work of God, instead you are using it for private jets competition.
Is the church all about giving?
Believe what you believe... giving has blessed me, dont give if you dont want to .. period
So what u are trying to say is that if u don’t gave God will not bless u ahhhh it is well ooo
GIVE TO THE POOR TO BANK IN HEAVEN SAYS CHRIST IN LUKE 12:32-34. THEN PREACH ON THE STREETS. GIVING TO A MILLIONAIRE PASTORS YOU KNOW ARE RICH WHILE NEGLECTING THE POOR TAKES ONE AWAY FROM HEAVEN.
Lol
If you understand the consent of divine prosperity...you will never turn back when the spirit says give...
Don't look at man,s message know God for your self
Nigeria's problem is spiritual according to Adebayo? What if Nigerian Government sows a dangerous seed or pay tithe won't situations be turned around and she will have an all round security? Nigeria has a great cloud of miracle money workers yet her economy is down. If the former fails to work, the later much surely work. God have done His part by giving Nigeria abundantly these men and women who from what they are preaching on the internet will easily handle economic and other security problems.
Criminal pastors
Joshua selman and Micheal orokpo are motivational speaker not the preacher of the gospel.however,they are preachers of Another gospel and presented another Jesus
This pastors preach about heaven yet they accumulate wealth and look for worldly things most of them are hypocrites.
The charlatans love to preach about the blessings of Abraham, yet it wasn't about prosperity and physical wealth. Abraham was rich even before he met Melchizedek. I remember we used to sing a song Abraham's blessings are mine during the offering time, the day God opened my eyes and came across a scripture in Galatians 3vs9, then I knew that it was a scam
“So then those who are people of faith [whether Jew or Gentile] are blessed and favoured by God [and declared free of the guilt of sin and its penalty, and placed in right standing with Him] along with Abraham, the believer.”
It is about faith in Christ we are blessed.
Ephesians 1vs3, Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. So my blessing has nothing with giving and money.
Do you observe Oyedepo was all about money money and no mention of Jesus Christ and salvation of souls.
Who de waste time correct that kind person
Liars, how did the disciples spread the goodnews. They will twist and misuse verses to suit their greed.
Indeed
Very true
Mr Samuel the apostles raised funds amongst believers. Read the book of Acts of the apostles
@@cryptomanual2920Was the money raised under compulsion? Was the money used for their selfish purposes? These men aren't following the footsteps of Christ, if you study Jesus keenly you will understand that Abel is actually correct
@@cryptomanual2920the money raised was for the needy only
You can read is pj reading 😂
Omo, time don reach for everybody to read this Bible for ourselves. Anyhow we understand am individually, na so we go practice am.
All these content creators seeking attention with things that trending, pls don't drag all men of God, there are many that are not money monger's
The 2 men of God used in this clip didn't preach anything contrary to the scripture,
Even if Abel Damina is your role model you should also know he doesn't say don't give but don't be coarsed into giving as a way for God to bless you, that you are blessed already in Christ
Pls know what you upload
Why are these pastors backing like dogs as if Dr Abel is not also a pastor like them
Hes a pastor not banker
So affected pastors should change their ways
Is damiana telling us not to give eny gift to people,?
Audience of social media
Correct them ! Deceivers
He started by preaching prosperity messages, if he has now discovered that his messages were wrong, he should focus on correcting his wrong teachings and not attack any other preachers and making himself holier than thou.
U go cry Taya .
Please, Pastor Abel, I'm sure your age is advance more than these young pastors and the press people that you're talking with. I'm a servant of God like you , advancing towards 70 years. This kind of contention should not be found in us. Our focus is to make heaven because we must die for transition to take place. Can you embrace Colossians 3:23-24. You have all shifted focus from the real Gospel of eternal life, what all of you people are wasting time on now is how to reply one another and so your reply is not backed up by the Holy Spirit. You all are grieving the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30.
Oga analyzer, you misunderstood the point Apostle Selman was making here.
Apostle Orokpo, please the example you gave from the scripture, the old church sold their properties and brought the money to be shared amongst those that didn't have, they didn't not bring the money for church to bank it, they used it to help each other, that none of them lacked,
People should go and read Bible on their own, ask Holy Spirit to help you with understanding, period.
Madam start by reading it yourself..
Obviously you Haven't read it.
What has seed got to do with your topic? I thought the sermon is about your investment for your future not church
Where is Christ in the mouth of these men?
Security? So Tithe is security?
No mind criminals