Your sponsor is pretty disgusting. Do you need the money so badly that you are willing to promote a business concept that is based on addiction? There are plenty of okay sponsors out there that don't prey on the weak.
@@SxSxG666 Yeah I think I'm done with this channel. There are scam sponsors and then there are disgustingly obvious scam sponsors like this one. Just shows how much credibility this guy actually has that he takes a fucking gambling sponsor.
@@SxSxG666 thank you. He deserves the pushback he is going to get with this choice of sponsorship. How he didn't have the presence of mind to realize his audience was going to shit all over this is kind of mind boggling. He'd have been better off accepting Nord VPN, or even Better Help... Edit: good lord the fucking download code is PUNK ROCK?! yikes!
Sugar Ray did the greatest thing I've ever personally seen at a rock concert. I saw Sugar Ray perform in 1998 at the local AZ music festival "That Damn Show." I went to see Bink-182 but was there for the whole thing including bands I thought were lame like Sugar Ray. The band performing before Sugar Ray was Cake and I was stoked to see Cake. Shortly after starting their first song, someone threw something onto the stage. John McCrea stopped and angrily said, "If anyone else throws something, we're walking off the stage." Cake started performing again and immediately was bombarded with numerous pieces of garbage from the crowd. Cake didn't even finish their first song before walking off the stage to a loud chorus of Boos. Shortly thereafter, when Sugar Ray took the stage and began their first song, Mark McGrath yelled into the microphone, "We're Sugar Ray and the more $#!% you throw at us, the better we play!" The crowd went nuts and the air became think with trash, shoes, water bottles, and everything you can imagine being hurled at the band. At one point, Mark narrowly dodged a water bottle and yelled, "YEAH! You almost got me! Great shot!" Within 5 minutes people ran out of trash and they played a great set to a thoroughly pumped up crowd. So regardless of what anyone thinks of Sugar Ray, they did the most "punk rock" thing I've ever seen in a live show. Edit: Originally I wrote that the band was Tool. The band was Cake not Tool. My apologies to Tool and Maynard Keegan for my bad memory.
I went to high school with Mark McGrath. We were in separate friend groups but our paths did cross when we were put in the same CCD class in 8th grade and as a group we decided to go to Knott’s Berry Farm. I must say I was prone to bullying during that time but Mark McGrath never disrespected me. Happy he found some success with his life.
Shout out to a fellow CCD sufferer. Nice to know Mark McGrath was decent. I, too, have fondness in my heart for the more “popular” kids who didn’t bully me, or who might have even shown me some kindness now and then.
Calling people sellouts for earning a living making music is so weird to me. Like you would never call a session musician in someone’s studio/touring band a sellout. They’re making a living playing music - that’s like 80% of the dream.
my immediate thought was "Yeah, they are, but they're fuckin rich sellouts." I can't hate them for making mad bank off of stupid people while doing what they love.
The irony of your comment is the simple fact that EVERYONE who spouted that nonsense back in the day would have done exactly the same thing if they had the opportunity.
@@jonbourgoin182well, no. I was offered a recording contract back in the early 2000s but the PR guy said "Listen to the radio and write songs that sound like that." I chose not to do that. Never called the label back, and became a traveling chef instead. Not everybody prioritizes fame and money over personal growth and honesty.
That's why I could never embrace the full alt lifestyle. It's not about materialism, it's about wanting a family and giving them a good life. The world sucks, I agree, just trying to make it hardcore fans...
“Sugar Gay” is the first thing I think of when Sugar Ray is mentioned. I was never a fan, I also never disliked them, but after watching this I have a new profound respect for Mark and the gang.
Did they figure out that they could get laid and make money by writing bland, radio-friendly crap? Yes. Do I like any of their output after the first album? No. Would I do the same thing if I was in their position? You're goddamn right.
@@zacharysmithingell5460 They already made the switch before NuMetal got popular. NuMetal really took off around 1999/2000. At least here in Orlando on the radio and such.
When you sign the contract you sold out. Rage against the machine my ass they are part of the machine. Can't go to the concert unless you get the jab. They all sold out
Honestly they made the right decision. Their hardest stuff just sounded corny, cheesy and bad, and their softer songs sounded much better, but also, authentic. You can’t get mad at that.
To me both bands are the "Cherry Coke" of Alternative music. I don't want to drink it all the time but I enjoy it here and there. They are sweet, tasty and fun!😎👍✨
@@gringogreen4719 Smash Mouth also deeper than people gave them credit for, song like fallen horses. They had the hair metal curse where no matter how deep it is, people just brush it off as party music...
@@gringogreen4719Spot on actually bro. Like I just always come back to my metal (I don't get into or fall for the million different metal genre stuff either,its stupid) but even though I can honestly say that I've never bought a Smash Mouth or Sugar Ray....or albums from similar bands come to think of it,a good song is a good song and when it hits at the right time and/or mood it's great✌️
@@peaner083 I'm more of a 77 Punk and Psychobilly kinda guy. That said Rockabilly, Garage and Surf are in my wheelhouse too so both bands are fun for me, not my main thing but I enjoy them for what they are. As far as Metal goes I just stick to the Classics and that suits me fine. 😎👍✨
@@gringogreen4719 Well fuck haha....my musical shit is like 95 onwards,then ofcourse backwards 🤘 I've really tried to enjoy the punk /rockabilly stuff,most can't do... some is killer,I definitely respect the culture of it all though, very cool. When I say 95 I mean that actively listening to tunes. Iam an early 80s kid
uh yeah then we can have them do a video on Bandladen? no. If you support Terrist then I don't know to tell you, george bush did not spend 8 year to kill the guy on teal seem 6 just for you to make a video adoring the bad man wtf~!
@@markwrenn5965they’ve been one of my favorites since I was a kid in the 90s and this was my first chance to see them. Almost cried lol they sounded and looked amazing and absolutely destroyed. One of the loudest shows I’ve ever seen. Glad to see them getting more love these days. Easily one of the best of the 90s. Pure talent.
Thank you for defending Sugar Ray, Finn. I don't know how they managed to make drop c agressive hard rock and relaxed summer jam songs on the same albums and make it all sound so good and catchy. They always had the look, carisma and talent to be more than another 90's rock band. So glad Mark is your friend now
Mark answering the whole "Sugar Gay" thing with that iconic Twitter post cemented him in my mind. He'd definitely be invited to the BBQ. Absolute chad energy.
This might sound crazy but I am 49 and my wife tells me we are going to our friends for a party but there is a free concert in her community for the community's anniversary. So we walk over to the park where the show is and I am told Sugar ray is playing. I rolled my eyes as many people probably do when they hear the name Sugar Ray but i did think it was weird they would play this gig. To my astonishment they were actually really good and they played bunch of covers and we had a blast.
Wait, educate me please. When you say "providing" do you mean you are transporting their own gear? Or do you own the gear yourself and letting them use it? If it's the latter then how does a band as big as Sugar Ray not have their own gear?
I’m casually watching this and start scrolling the comments. I see Casper, Wyoming mentioned and immediately think “TMDWU, wonder if anyone’s mentioned a certain gothic bad boy.” Wasn’t disappointed. Now I kind of want to see Cobes cover some sugar ray.
One MAJOR factor in their success was left out here...in fact, it is THE reason any of us know who they are: The Howard Stern Show. Howard wrote a song when he was a kid called Psychedelic Bee. It was a ridiculous mess written by a child. Sugar Ray did a well produced punk cover of it and submitted it to the Stern Show. Howard loved it and brought them on. Boom. That morning nobody had heard of them. Within days, tens of thousands of people ran out and bought their first record. Brought all the attention to Fly when it was released shortly after.
Dude you are literally writing some weird revisionist history. Fly came out LONG before that, made them multi platinum and Every Morning was a smash radio hit before they started appearing on Stern and did that lol. You are literally lying and making things up.
@@chipchippahsonI’m assuming you erroneously think Psychedelic Bee was recorded for their greatest hits album? That’s the only possible explanation I can think to justify how totally OFF you are here.
@@stewartdowouis9218 There is no OFF here. Sugar Ray had already been a platinum recording artist before they ever did Bee and appeared on his show to perform it. I was even listening to the show live the day they did it.
I can’t think about Sugar Ray without thinking about the live action Scooby Doo movie lmao. “I look at you and try to do the best I can, but sometimes, it ain’t that easyyy” 🎶
What’s interesting is that most bands where not mixing genres the way they were. In the in the early or mid 90s most bands made all their songs on one album sound kinda the same. Sugar Ray’s music aged very well, despite not everyone liking the mixed genres.
The bassist Murphy Karges actually has a youtube channel and he did a breakdown of every Sugar Ray song and how it came about. Its actually pretty interesting. Most of the videos are 3 to 4 years old though.
I have always loved Sugar Ray. While listening to Sugar Ray it feels like life is simple no matter how complicated it continues to get. Loved seeing them live last year it was the highlight of my summer!
Class act right here man. You’ve done it again. Reeled me into watching what I think will be a fun bash on a band I’ve always (semi-ignorantly) thought was a joke, only to tell the real story and leave me respecting the band far more than I ever thought possible. Nice work.
A well known Kiwi musician Jon Toogood of the band Shihad recently said that Mark was one of the only real, down to earth people that they met when they were living in LA.
They were ahead of the curve by realizing that everyone’s fixation of “authenticity vs selling out” was petty and miopic. They dabbled in a lot of genres, and the early albums were fun due to the eclectic vibe. When the hits came on Floored, 14:59, and Sugar Ray, the vibe was already immaculate. I went to their concerts with my parents, as a teenager, and we all had fun. I’ll take my kids now to see them play the next time they’re around. When you think about it - what actually makes a band matter - I think they understood something that a lot of their contemporaries lacked.
True story: my college band helped another band at our college run their merch table while they opened for Sugar Ray. I got to watch Sugar Ray, and during their set, McGrath goes, "Sorry guys, this is too much, I can't do this any more" because his girlfriend supposedly broke up with him or something. He left and the DJ goes, "If I was y'all and I paid to see Sugar Ray I'd be booing!" The whole crowd booed. A couple minutes later, the whole band comes back up and plays a break up song. Gotta admit they got me with that whole bit.
Saw Sugar Ray at the 9:30 club in DC when they opened for Korn. They were electric and pretty much shocked the shit out of the crowd who hadn’t heard of them. It was good times when they hadn’t even released an EP yet
He's had gambling sponsors for years now. You must be new here. It's not selling out when you have a family to support. This kind of mindset you have is immature at best
Not many relatively contemporary bands that have songs I really love, but this band and the light hearted fun songs like Someday and Every Morning won me over.
I bought Floored because of Fly and then got obsessed with that album for every other song on it and really never understood how they were so covertly heavy. I was at that exact time getting into metal and punk bands, so that album really threw me for a loop. I appreciate this video. Gonna go listen to Floored now.
I knew Mark in the first days of Shrinky's, living out of his car in Newps. Super real guy, nice and authentic. As he rose up and the music softened, nothing changed with him. He still seems pretty down to earth.
Nobody just "sells out and becomes more popular" you have to have talent and song writing abilities. You have to be able to write a hook be memorable and market themselves. Selling out implies that its easy.
I love their singles but I admit I always assumed that was all there was to them but because of seeing Marks self awareness I have a lot more respect for them and I’m gonna have to do a deep dive into their catalogue. Great video!
These guys used to come to Santa Barbara all the time when I was growing up playing with local band Snot and occasionally with 311 and No Doubt. I thought all these bands sucked, but then again, I was into Thrash and Death Metal at the time.
Sugar rays “ fly “ also fit into the grooves that Fun Lovin Criminals were using. That era had a great mix of bands using hip hop breaks and beats to layer their drums on .
Loved these guys so much. Me and some friends in the UK lied to a load of record companies in the mid 90s, said we were producing a rock fanzine, could we get any merch or gig tickets - total blag, never expected it to work, but a few weeks later we're sat in the Ristorante Trevi next to The Garage in Highbury & Islington, drinking coffee and eating pie with Roddy and Mark, just before they went on to play next door for their first gig in London. Had a blast asking them dumb questions, trying to keep up the charade, but they called us out - totally cool about it, they slipped us a £20 note to go and buy "some real beer" before the show, we got to hang out, bounced around like wankers with ~200 others when they played, was one hell of a day out. I still owe Roddy for a bet we had on the Tyson/Bruno rematch, but I doubt he remembers that. I do. Fan for life \m/, Nice breakdown, Finn, thanks for sharing, thanks for stirring up some great memories of good times, man.
I don't care who don't like it.... I've always been a fan of Sugar Ray and their music. Remember seeing the vid of mean machine and liking them. Fly and their pop hits are great songs!!!
The only song I know from these guys that wasn't played to death on the radio is Answer The Phone, had I heard that song not knowing it was Sugar Ray then I would have thought they were a pop/punk band
Saw them with 311 on Halloween and they were great. Never gunna hate on a band that has fun and doesn’t take themselves too seriously. They definitely have some fun tracks.
I see why you two would be friends! You both have authenticity deep in your bones. And a genuine love for music! This video granted me a new perspective on Mark McGrath. I think I always got good vibes from him and apparently 'loved' him as an 11 yr old girl in Massachusetts of 1998. I remember, I was doing summer arts and crafts at Star Island, and I was given a white sheet as a canvas, and I drew a silver glitter glue heart around a magazine cut-out of Mark McGrath's face hahaha, and the sheet had like orange and red finger paint on it?! I have a printed photo of it somewhere. The 90s were the best!
I owned the Floored album as a young teenager. Never took them very seriously so I never considered them a sellout band. I really enjoyed their cover of Stand and Deliver.
I bought the lemonade and brownies album back in the day. And i thought that had a rage against the machine and beastie boys vibe and thought they totally sold out. Years later.. And i had 0 respect for them. Thanks for showing me, that mark is a down to earth dude and proving me wrong! Great great episode!
I remember being in the Rat Trap and Cathouse in Glasgow, bouncing around to Mean Machine. I loved that tune and, purely out of nostalgia - or pseudo-nostalgia rather than admit I still love it, and Lemonade & Brownies. We see to travel to Glasgow once a month like a long haired Seven Brides For Seven Brothers, go into HMV, randomly buy an album, go sit in Nice ‘n’ Sleazy’s before going out to usually the Rat Trap. I bought Lemonade & Brownies on a whim, so asked the DJ if he’d anything by them and that’s when he played Mean Machine Good timesA
They were put in a tough spot. They were encouraged to do the Nu Metal thing and go heavier, but chose to do what they wanted and go more light. If they would have went that route, who knows where they'd be now. They might have and a hit or 2 in that era, but then would have faded into obscurity. Or they might be hailed as Nu Metal legends, along side Korn, Limp Bizkit, or Linkin Park in hindsight. One thing is for sure, they would still have been deemed sellouts for jumping on the Nu Metal bandwagon. So they were basically in a Catch 22 situation, which they might have been fully aware of.
I remember growing up with Sugar Ray. Then listening to him in interviews on The Tully Show. Mark seems like such a good dude and very self aware and humble today. I love listening to him telling stories of his youth. Though I will say, I think he and Sugar Ray overall are more talented than he gives credit 😂. Also probably one of the people with the most broad music taste. As someone else said, definitely getting an invite to the barbecue.
Hate this, hate that, I really enjoyed this video. This was such a throwback, I was 19 when 'FLY' came out and everybody loved it..Haven't thought about Sugar Ray in YEARS 😅
Lemonade and Brownies was an absolute classic and was cranked heavily in Florida at that time. They fucking rock and yes listen to it all the way through
14:59 was my introduction to Sugar Ray. The diversity on that album was amazing. That got me into checking out their older stuff. I was never a fan of the pop hits they put out, but the other stuff was all fantastic. Thank you for this video.
Fly was a great pop hit. Just the kind of thing we needed around that time, a bit of cheerful stuff to counter all the serious stuff we'd been fed for the previous 5 years.
Sugar Ray came to play at Ft Leonard Wood Missouri many years ago; my mom was sick that day checking them in on post, and Mark was really kind to her, making sure she was ok!
I unexpectedly saw Sugar Ray play at Epcot 2 days ago. I walked in a slight fan and walked out with a much deeper appreciation for them. They rocked and Mark seemed like a really cool humble guy. I might have to check out that latest album.
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Your sponsor is pretty disgusting. Do you need the money so badly that you are willing to promote a business concept that is based on addiction? There are plenty of okay sponsors out there that don't prey on the weak.
yeah very punkrock to support gambling and addiction.
"RPM" , "New Direction 1", "Abracadabra"
my top 3 songs...
If new Direction was longer it would be my #1 of theirs
@@SxSxG666 Yeah I think I'm done with this channel. There are scam sponsors and then there are disgustingly obvious scam sponsors like this one. Just shows how much credibility this guy actually has that he takes a fucking gambling sponsor.
@@SxSxG666 thank you. He deserves the pushback he is going to get with this choice of sponsorship. How he didn't have the presence of mind to realize his audience was going to shit all over this is kind of mind boggling. He'd have been better off accepting Nord VPN, or even Better Help...
Edit: good lord the fucking download code is PUNK ROCK?! yikes!
Mark Mcgrath has guest listed me at Sugar Ray shows multiple times because I occasionally tweet something stupid at him. Good dude, underrated band.
Lmao I love that
Yeah, but then you have to go to a Sugar Ray concert.
I came in ready to say the kid yelling “Sugar Gay” will never not be funny, and Finn hit us with it right away 😂
Sugar HEYYYYYY!🤪🌈🌈🌈
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Mark McGrath's pronouns are Sugar/Gay
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@@gringogreen4719😂😂😂😂😂
Sugar Ray did the greatest thing I've ever personally seen at a rock concert. I saw Sugar Ray perform in 1998 at the local AZ music festival "That Damn Show." I went to see Bink-182 but was there for the whole thing including bands I thought were lame like Sugar Ray. The band performing before Sugar Ray was Cake and I was stoked to see Cake. Shortly after starting their first song, someone threw something onto the stage. John McCrea stopped and angrily said, "If anyone else throws something, we're walking off the stage." Cake started performing again and immediately was bombarded with numerous pieces of garbage from the crowd. Cake didn't even finish their first song before walking off the stage to a loud chorus of Boos.
Shortly thereafter, when Sugar Ray took the stage and began their first song, Mark McGrath yelled into the microphone, "We're Sugar Ray and the more $#!% you throw at us, the better we play!" The crowd went nuts and the air became think with trash, shoes, water bottles, and everything you can imagine being hurled at the band. At one point, Mark narrowly dodged a water bottle and yelled, "YEAH! You almost got me! Great shot!" Within 5 minutes people ran out of trash and they played a great set to a thoroughly pumped up crowd. So regardless of what anyone thinks of Sugar Ray, they did the most "punk rock" thing I've ever seen in a live show.
Edit: Originally I wrote that the band was Tool. The band was Cake not Tool. My apologies to Tool and Maynard Keegan for my bad memory.
Thanks for sharing!
Makes sense, they need to consume garbage to generate their music.
And now he cries when some calls them Sugar Gay.
That's actually siicc af hell yea
Mcgrath is an excellent frontman.
Homie we need to get you better sponsors.
Economy is tough. Take what you can get.
Yeah exactly. What a hypocrite.
@@buffetline2605 There are plenty of potential sponsors out there without a shady business concept.
but it's punk rock to gamble though
Seriously, he talks about avoiding addiction and seeing first hand it destroying his family, then sells out to a gambling company. What a moron.
I went to high school with Mark McGrath. We were in separate friend groups but our paths did cross when we were put in the same CCD class in 8th grade and as a group we decided to go to Knott’s Berry Farm. I must say I was prone to bullying during that time but Mark McGrath never disrespected me. Happy he found some success with his life.
Shout out to a fellow CCD sufferer. Nice to know Mark McGrath was decent. I, too, have fondness in my heart for the more “popular” kids who didn’t bully me, or who might have even shown me some kindness now and then.
"Muscle Car Rock"
Dear god, that is such a perfect descriptor.
Wasn't that Monster Magnet?🤔
@@gringogreen4719
Buck Cherry.
@@TheLotusEater725
That's lit up again!🤪👍✨
Not bad, but I prefer "Chad Rock."
CLUTCH
Calling people sellouts for earning a living making music is so weird to me.
Like you would never call a session musician in someone’s studio/touring band a sellout. They’re making a living playing music - that’s like 80% of the dream.
my immediate thought was "Yeah, they are, but they're fuckin rich sellouts."
I can't hate them for making mad bank off of stupid people while doing what they love.
The irony of your comment is the simple fact that EVERYONE who spouted that nonsense back in the day would have done exactly the same thing if they had the opportunity.
@@jonbourgoin182well, no. I was offered a recording contract back in the early 2000s but the PR guy said "Listen to the radio and write songs that sound like that." I chose not to do that. Never called the label back, and became a traveling chef instead. Not everybody prioritizes fame and money over personal growth and honesty.
That's why I could never embrace the full alt lifestyle. It's not about materialism, it's about wanting a family and giving them a good life. The world sucks, I agree, just trying to make it hardcore fans...
@@TheLotusEater725 why are people stupid for enjoying music? Oh right it's not 'real' music bla bla bla
I always thought McGrath was just Ethan Hawk with spiky bleached tips.
Holy crap! I've always said he had a familiar look hahah it totally IS Ethan Hawke LMAO
Ethan Hawk started out as mark mgraths stunt double before getting his first role.
Nah McGrath has always had better teeth
Nah , McGrath has always had better teeth .
“Sugar Gay” is the first thing I think of when Sugar Ray is mentioned. I was never a fan, I also never disliked them, but after watching this I have a new profound respect for Mark and the gang.
Did they figure out that they could get laid and make money by writing bland, radio-friendly crap? Yes.
Do I like any of their output after the first album? No.
Would I do the same thing if I was in their position? You're goddamn right.
Is that a High Anxiety reference?
Yeah, but you and I don't have to listen to bad music.
The fact that they didn’t lean into NuMetal at the time should clearly answer the question“did they sell out?“ question.
They were punk before they were... summer island pop appropriation. They faded from popularity by the time NuMetal really held the limelight.
Absolutely nailed it re: not leaning into nu metal. Would have been so easy to do.
I mean, for a given value of "easy."
@@zacharysmithingell5460 They already made the switch before NuMetal got popular. NuMetal really took off around 1999/2000. At least here in Orlando on the radio and such.
...they were always gay.
When you sign the contract you sold out. Rage against the machine my ass they are part of the machine. Can't go to the concert unless you get the jab. They all sold out
Honestly they made the right decision. Their hardest stuff just sounded corny, cheesy and bad, and their softer songs sounded much better, but also, authentic. You can’t get mad at that.
"the battered flag of frosted tips" - hands down the most poetic shit Finn!
My response to Sugar Ray and Smashmouth has always been “there are far more evil and bad things in this world than the musical output of these bands”
To me both bands are the "Cherry Coke" of Alternative music. I don't want to drink it all the time but I enjoy it here and there. They are sweet, tasty and fun!😎👍✨
@@gringogreen4719 Smash Mouth also deeper than people gave them credit for, song like fallen horses.
They had the hair metal curse where no matter how deep it is, people just brush it off as party music...
@@gringogreen4719Spot on actually bro. Like I just always come back to my metal (I don't get into or fall for the million different metal genre stuff either,its stupid) but even though I can honestly say that I've never bought a Smash Mouth or Sugar Ray....or albums from similar bands come to think of it,a good song is a good song and when it hits at the right time and/or mood it's great✌️
@@peaner083
I'm more of a 77 Punk and Psychobilly kinda guy. That said Rockabilly, Garage and Surf are in my wheelhouse too so both bands are fun for me, not my main thing but I enjoy them for what they are.
As far as Metal goes I just stick to the Classics and that suits me fine. 😎👍✨
@@gringogreen4719 Well fuck haha....my musical shit is like 95 onwards,then ofcourse backwards 🤘
I've really tried to enjoy the punk /rockabilly stuff,most can't do... some is killer,I definitely respect the culture of it all though, very cool.
When I say 95 I mean that actively listening to tunes. Iam an early 80s kid
I think sugar ray is an example of "leaning in" not "selling out", it was already in them, they just needed to pop the cork
Does this video confirm that we are finally getting a 311 video?
Hope so
uh yeah then we can have them do a video on Bandladen? no. If you support Terrist then I don't know to tell you, george bush did not spend 8 year to kill the guy on teal seem 6 just for you to make a video adoring the bad man wtf~!
Just saw them live last night. They killed it.
@@HotStrange ahh luckyyyy. That's my favorite band. Haven't seen them since 2021. They didn't come anywhere near here on this one.
@@markwrenn5965they’ve been one of my favorites since I was a kid in the 90s and this was my first chance to see them. Almost cried lol they sounded and looked amazing and absolutely destroyed. One of the loudest shows I’ve ever seen. Glad to see them getting more love these days. Easily one of the best of the 90s. Pure talent.
Sugar Gay > Anything released in 2024
or you could choose to listen to GOOD music.
"Herpes isn't as bad as AIDS" - I'd still rather not have either.
Thank you for defending Sugar Ray, Finn. I don't know how they managed to make drop c agressive hard rock and relaxed summer jam songs on the same albums and make it all sound so good and catchy. They always had the look, carisma and talent to be more than another 90's rock band. So glad Mark is your friend now
Mark answering the whole "Sugar Gay" thing with that iconic Twitter post cemented him in my mind. He'd definitely be invited to the BBQ. Absolute chad energy.
What did he say?
@@DSPHistoricalSociety "watch the video"
@@DiogenesCaulfield yeah I found it
This might sound crazy but I am 49 and my wife tells me we are going to our friends for a party but there is a free concert in her community for the community's anniversary. So we walk over to the park where the show is and I am told Sugar ray is playing. I rolled my eyes as many people probably do when they hear the name Sugar Ray but i did think it was weird they would play this gig. To my astonishment they were actually really good and they played bunch of covers and we had a blast.
I'm literally providing some equipment for them today in Casper Wyoming. Watching this before I head over to the gig.
Wait, educate me please. When you say "providing" do you mean you are transporting their own gear? Or do you own the gear yourself and letting them use it? If it's the latter then how does a band as big as Sugar Ray not have their own gear?
@jonbourgoin182 I own CJ Sound in Casper Wyoming. I had part on my sound system there, microphones, mic stands, and cables.
@brentphillips5286 have you ever seen GothicKingCobra waddling around town?
Tell kingcobrajfs I said hi.
I’m casually watching this and start scrolling the comments. I see Casper, Wyoming mentioned and immediately think “TMDWU, wonder if anyone’s mentioned a certain gothic bad boy.” Wasn’t disappointed. Now I kind of want to see Cobes cover some sugar ray.
One MAJOR factor in their success was left out here...in fact, it is THE reason any of us know who they are: The Howard Stern Show. Howard wrote a song when he was a kid called Psychedelic Bee. It was a ridiculous mess written by a child. Sugar Ray did a well produced punk cover of it and submitted it to the Stern Show. Howard loved it and brought them on. Boom. That morning nobody had heard of them. Within days, tens of thousands of people ran out and bought their first record. Brought all the attention to Fly when it was released shortly after.
That’s just brilliant marketing, the only people who call people like that sellouts, are people who aren’t that good at marketing, or Well, anything..
Dude you are literally writing some weird revisionist history. Fly came out LONG before that, made them multi platinum and Every Morning was a smash radio hit before they started appearing on Stern and did that lol. You are literally lying and making things up.
You're legit weird. You're still hanging onto Stern? Lol that's sad.
@@chipchippahsonI’m assuming you erroneously think Psychedelic Bee was recorded for their greatest hits album? That’s the only possible explanation I can think to justify how totally OFF you are here.
@@stewartdowouis9218 There is no OFF here. Sugar Ray had already been a platinum recording artist before they ever did Bee and appeared on his show to perform it. I was even listening to the show live the day they did it.
Dude, you need to do a 311 video!
Agreed!
Rock N' Roll True Stories did one a few weeks ago. Not as good as Finn would do, but it was ok.
@@ANYHOO0 thanks for the heads up! Can’t sleep.
@ANYHOO0 I saw that, was hoping Finn would bring up one like a few days after lol
"Someday" is a timeless banger
Yeah, I was in the US for three weeks in '99. All the songs on the radio stuck with me, but Someday was my favourite.
I can’t think about Sugar Ray without thinking about the live action Scooby Doo movie lmao. “I look at you and try to do the best I can, but sometimes, it ain’t that easyyy” 🎶
I count the days till I see you again 🎶
Does anyone remember Mark on Rock N Roll Jeopardy? Dude knows his music history. It’s insane
I’m gonna check that out!
What’s interesting is that most bands where not mixing genres the way they were.
In the in the early or mid 90s most bands made all their songs on one album sound kinda the same.
Sugar Ray’s music aged very well, despite not everyone liking the mixed genres.
It was the crapification of rock and metal due to Nirvana, they just did the easy part and not follow the trend
The bassist Murphy Karges actually has a youtube channel and he did a breakdown of every Sugar Ray song and how it came about. Its actually pretty interesting. Most of the videos are 3 to 4 years old though.
I remember watching Mark McGrath on rock n roll jepordy on VH1 many years ago. Dude has unbelievable music knowledge.
I have always loved Sugar Ray. While listening to Sugar Ray it feels like life is simple no matter how complicated it continues to get. Loved seeing them live last year it was the highlight of my summer!
Class act right here man. You’ve done it again. Reeled me into watching what I think will be a fun bash on a band I’ve always (semi-ignorantly) thought was a joke, only to tell the real story and leave me respecting the band far more than I ever thought possible. Nice work.
I genuinely wish the best for people like mark mcgrath, just such a humble cool and well rounded person!
*_”Every Morning” is a perfect song, and I will die defending that statement._*
When you wake up hungover it sounds terrible.
HANGING FROM THE CORNER OF MY GIRLFRIEND'S FOUR POST BED! You sir are correct! Top 50 all time song.
Shut the door baby don’t say a word
As much as i hate their music, i am not going to pretend like they weren't incredible songwriters.
Perfect song written by some of the most brilliant songwriters that work for the big corporate labels
Just a note, Finn: Nicole Eggert was on Charles in Charge, not Charlie's Angels.
A well known Kiwi musician Jon Toogood of the band Shihad recently said that Mark was one of the only real, down to earth people that they met when they were living in LA.
That "Who said Sugar Gay?" moment is LEGENDARY
Mark McGrath is Johnny Drama from Entourage in real life
Nice calves bro, those implants?
@@amirofthedesertNice implants bro, are they calves?🤔
Fucken A. That's so true!
I remember asking myself "WTF, did I buy the wrong album ?"the first time I listened to "New Direction" on 14:59 ! Such a random intro ! 😅
Same! I was like 12 and was like WTF IS GOING ON 🤣
Such a cool way to troll fans! lol
They were ahead of the curve by realizing that everyone’s fixation of “authenticity vs selling out” was petty and miopic. They dabbled in a lot of genres, and the early albums were fun due to the eclectic vibe.
When the hits came on Floored, 14:59, and Sugar Ray, the vibe was already immaculate.
I went to their concerts with my parents, as a teenager, and we all had fun. I’ll take my kids now to see them play the next time they’re around.
When you think about it - what actually makes a band matter - I think they understood something that a lot of their contemporaries lacked.
I took your advice and started playing slots. Now im addicted to gambling and can't pay rent. Thanks Finn
Right? Guy promotes clean living, clean out your wallet
I knew a woman who lost her house because of gambling. Don't gamble away your hard earned dollars kids.
Lmao I was scrolling and saw Sugar Ray and immediately thought Sugar Gay and then saw you put that in the title 😜😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Only Finn can call Mark Mcgrath Sugar Ray since they're obviously besties
I’m glad you finally made a video about your Personal Friend Sugar Ray.
that self-titled record is LEGIT. I love it. "Under The Sun", "Satellites", "Ours". so many great deep cuts.
Never was a fan but mark is a cool dude to be around. He definitely knows the business , not a chump self absorbed rock star. Humble , good for him
True story: my college band helped another band at our college run their merch table while they opened for Sugar Ray. I got to watch Sugar Ray, and during their set, McGrath goes, "Sorry guys, this is too much, I can't do this any more" because his girlfriend supposedly broke up with him or something. He left and the DJ goes, "If I was y'all and I paid to see Sugar Ray I'd be booing!" The whole crowd booed. A couple minutes later, the whole band comes back up and plays a break up song. Gotta admit they got me with that whole bit.
Saw Sugar Ray at the 9:30 club in DC when they opened for Korn. They were electric and pretty much shocked the shit out of the crowd who hadn’t heard of them. It was good times when they hadn’t even released an EP yet
Sugar Ray in the Scooby Doo movie was iconic. The things I’d do to be on Spooky Island in the early 2000s 😂😭
I used to listen to R.P.M. on loop. As a 12 year old when that came out, the motor cycle and guitar call back was the coolest thing in the world.
I met Mark McGrath once at a Deftones concert in 2001 and he was cool AF!
Asking if they sold out
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He's had gambling sponsors for years now. You must be new here. It's not selling out when you have a family to support. This kind of mindset you have is immature at best
I remember this one unknown dude had said belief doesn't pay the bills. @@vincenthamilton09
*PUNK RAWK, DOOOOD!*
Mark looks like he was created in a lab to be the ultimate 90's hunk.
Glad to see you making more positive videos again. They’re just better videos in my opinion.
I always loved the 14:59 album title.
Mcgrath looks like one of those caricature doodles come to life nowadays
Not many relatively contemporary bands that have songs I really love, but this band and the light hearted fun songs like Someday and Every Morning won me over.
I bought Floored because of Fly and then got obsessed with that album for every other song on it and really never understood how they were so covertly heavy. I was at that exact time getting into metal and punk bands, so that album really threw me for a loop. I appreciate this video. Gonna go listen to Floored now.
I knew Mark in the first days of Shrinky's, living out of his car in Newps. Super real guy, nice and authentic. As he rose up and the music softened, nothing changed with him. He still seems pretty down to earth.
Nobody just "sells out and becomes more popular" you have to have talent and song writing abilities. You have to be able to write a hook be memorable and market themselves.
Selling out implies that its easy.
I love their singles but I admit I always assumed that was all there was to them but because of seeing Marks self awareness I have a lot more respect for them and I’m gonna have to do a deep dive into their catalogue. Great video!
Fell back in love with them and him with the old Cracked skit "If Google was a guy" after that mad respect
These guys used to come to Santa Barbara all the time when I was growing up playing with local band Snot and occasionally with 311 and No Doubt. I thought all these bands sucked, but then again, I was into Thrash and Death Metal at the time.
Sugar rays “ fly “ also fit into the grooves that Fun Lovin Criminals were using. That era had a great mix of bands using hip hop breaks and beats to layer their drums on .
Loved these guys so much. Me and some friends in the UK lied to a load of record companies in the mid 90s, said we were producing a rock fanzine, could we get any merch or gig tickets - total blag, never expected it to work, but a few weeks later we're sat in the Ristorante Trevi next to The Garage in Highbury & Islington, drinking coffee and eating pie with Roddy and Mark, just before they went on to play next door for their first gig in London. Had a blast asking them dumb questions, trying to keep up the charade, but they called us out - totally cool about it, they slipped us a £20 note to go and buy "some real beer" before the show, we got to hang out, bounced around like wankers with ~200 others when they played, was one hell of a day out. I still owe Roddy for a bet we had on the Tyson/Bruno rematch, but I doubt he remembers that. I do. Fan for life \m/, Nice breakdown, Finn, thanks for sharing, thanks for stirring up some great memories of good times, man.
I liked their music as a young teen, but after watching this, I love how humble they were
Somehow you popped up on the algorithm after months of your content disappearing. I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you!
I don't care who don't like it.... I've always been a fan of Sugar Ray and their music. Remember seeing the vid of mean machine and liking them. Fly and their pop hits are great songs!!!
I liked the video, I HATED the sponsor
The only song I know from these guys that wasn't played to death on the radio is Answer The Phone, had I heard that song not knowing it was Sugar Ray then I would have thought they were a pop/punk band
Probably my fav song of theirs. Great pop punk song
Saw them with 311 on Halloween and they were great. Never gunna hate on a band that has fun and doesn’t take themselves too seriously. They definitely have some fun tracks.
I can admit to singing along to more than a few Sugar Ray songs, usually after more than a few beers!
I see why you two would be friends! You both have authenticity deep in your bones. And a genuine love for music! This video granted me a new perspective on Mark McGrath.
I think I always got good vibes from him and apparently 'loved' him as an 11 yr old girl in Massachusetts of 1998. I remember, I was doing summer arts and crafts at Star Island, and I was given a white sheet as a canvas, and I drew a silver glitter glue heart around a magazine cut-out of Mark McGrath's face hahaha, and the sheet had like orange and red finger paint on it?! I have a printed photo of it somewhere. The 90s were the best!
One of my favorite bands. Floored is a super underrated record.
They're super unrated. They masters the drunk aunt rock, but wrote super catchy songs. Mark seems like a cool guy too
from now on, I will think of sugar ray as the non-neckbeard version of mr.bungle. Thanks fin, you changed my life
I owned the Floored album as a young teenager. Never took them very seriously so I never considered them a sellout band. I really enjoyed their cover of Stand and Deliver.
I bought the lemonade and brownies album back in the day. And i thought that had a rage against the machine and beastie boys vibe and thought they totally sold out. Years later.. And i had 0 respect for them. Thanks for showing me, that mark is a down to earth dude and proving me wrong! Great great episode!
They also had amazing music videos, so fresh and clean. “Falls apart” was one of my favorites…
“Runaway, runaway…”
Navigating the major label world of the late 90s early 00s sounds like death
I've been on a huge Sugar Ray kick lately so I was stoked seeing this on my feed
I remember being in the Rat Trap and Cathouse in Glasgow, bouncing around to Mean Machine. I loved that tune and, purely out of nostalgia - or pseudo-nostalgia rather than admit I still love it, and Lemonade & Brownies. We see to travel to Glasgow once a month like a long haired Seven Brides For Seven Brothers, go into HMV, randomly buy an album, go sit in Nice ‘n’ Sleazy’s before going out to usually the Rat Trap. I bought Lemonade & Brownies on a whim, so asked the DJ if he’d anything by them and that’s when he played Mean Machine
Good timesA
Damn, Mark seems genuinely really chill
I remember seeing them open for Snot back in the 90s
They were put in a tough spot. They were encouraged to do the Nu Metal thing and go heavier, but chose to do what they wanted and go more light. If they would have went that route, who knows where they'd be now. They might have and a hit or 2 in that era, but then would have faded into obscurity. Or they might be hailed as Nu Metal legends, along side Korn, Limp Bizkit, or Linkin Park in hindsight. One thing is for sure, they would still have been deemed sellouts for jumping on the Nu Metal bandwagon. So they were basically in a Catch 22 situation, which they might have been fully aware of.
your video just made me revist Sugar Ray's material. I passed them off for years but you talked me into taking another look
The Sugar Ray self-titled album was my childhood. Thanks for the interesting video!
I remember growing up with Sugar Ray. Then listening to him in interviews on The Tully Show. Mark seems like such a good dude and very self aware and humble today. I love listening to him telling stories of his youth. Though I will say, I think he and Sugar Ray overall are more talented than he gives credit 😂. Also probably one of the people with the most broad music taste. As someone else said, definitely getting an invite to the barbecue.
Hate this, hate that, I really enjoyed this video. This was such a throwback, I was 19 when 'FLY' came out and everybody loved it..Haven't thought about Sugar Ray in YEARS 😅
Thing I will ALWAYS remember Mark McGrath with how knowledgeable he is and how while destroyed anyone he was up against on Rock and Roll Jeopardy!
Lemonade and Brownies was an absolute classic and was cranked heavily in Florida at that time. They fucking rock and yes listen to it all the way through
We need more Sugar Ray
14:59 was my introduction to Sugar Ray. The diversity on that album was amazing. That got me into checking out their older stuff. I was never a fan of the pop hits they put out, but the other stuff was all fantastic. Thank you for this video.
I was 18 when "fly" blew up. There were 2 types of dudes after that. The ones who liked Sugar Ray, and the ones who admitted it
First rule of liking sugar Ray, never talk about liking sugar ray.
I've always compared LEN to Sugar Ray from the eclectic perspective. And now we have Just Friends, who are also hard to pigeonhole.
Fly was a great pop hit. Just the kind of thing we needed around that time, a bit of cheerful stuff to counter all the serious stuff we'd been fed for the previous 5 years.
Sugar Ray was my first concert.
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Mine too! Where/When did you see them?
Sugar Ray came to play at Ft Leonard Wood Missouri many years ago; my mom was sick that day checking them in on post, and Mark was really kind to her, making sure she was ok!
I unexpectedly saw Sugar Ray play at Epcot 2 days ago. I walked in a slight fan and walked out with a much deeper appreciation for them. They rocked and Mark seemed like a really cool humble guy. I might have to check out that latest album.
I have a whole new appreciation for Sugar Ray now
i remember buying their albums.
i was looking for a specific type of album, but this got better after a while.