BR in the 1980s Toton Yard in 1988 & 1991 Part One
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Back in the 1980s and early 1990s I made frequent visits to the Nottingham and East Midlands area to film the dying "MGR" services (Merry Go Round) trains which fed the various hungry Power Stations in the area. Most particularly the surviving large yard and sidings at Toton. Most of the "MGR" traffic was hauled then by pairs of class 20 locomotives or class 58 locomotives and some by 56 class locomotives. The occasional traffic from Bescot was handled by class 31 locomotives and workings from the North class 37 or 60 locomotives. In a usual day no less than 6 different loco classes could be seen in traffic, but mainly the area was dominated with "MGR"s feeding the nearby Ratcliffe-on-Soar Power Station. I have put together film which has been digitally converted from primitive VHS format into 2 parts covering Toton and 1 film I made on a short visit to Worksop Station as seen in the recent preview. Most of the footage was taken in 1991 but the first part was filmed in 1988...I hope you enjoy the little blast from the past and more will follow in time. Many thanks to the then Yard Supervisor for his support and agreement in the production of this video. Locomotives featured in this part:
08623,20087,20058,20170,20081,20105,20047,20210,20194,20128,20147,37227,37504,37519,56042,58031,58037,
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I lived in Toton in 1982 off Carrfield AVE as a kid and I used to hear the clanking of the shunting trucks at night. I also heard the engines of class 20s too in the distance. It was a comforting sound to hear the still of the night being interrupted by the clanking of the coal wagons. Nice childhood memories. And from that I joined MML in 1997 and became a Train Guard😁Now I'm married to an ex Toton Driver Reggie Sargeant. It must be all those noises from the Depot 😆
Really ? ! I was born on Portland road at top end before carrfield ave , left when I was 5 and parents split. (1969) but spent my school holidays till c 19678/9 at my grandparents on carrfield . ( Lea and Edna brooks - 63 ?🤔). Going to be a huge housing estate isn’t it on the fields etc ? 🤨😟
I can remember in the early 70's getting off the bus in Sandiacre on the weekend and walking into Toton & walking around the depot for loco numbers (Not that we were suppose too), The Place was a hive for 20's, the odd 31, 37 along with 44, 45,46, 47's later 70's came the 56 & Class 58's in early 80's by the 80's it was a very difficult depot to get around & Class 58's rarely ventured out of the East Midlands Yorkshire area's mainly on MGR trains to Power Stations, Saw my last 58 (58047) on Leicester Depot in 1983, I was working near the base in 2019 & 2022 & viewed from outside the depot, Sadly it was full of Class 66 & 67 Locos, A Few 60's & a load of stored 60's on both occasions on the opposite side of the shed, I pass regularly on the A52 & still look at the depot on the road. The place still has loads of loco's on base.
many thanks for the memories you shared....Best wishes....Mark
My favourite trains all there . The 08, 20, 37s. I commuted a lot in the 80s by train and always looked out the window at the sidings and so on, unlike folks today. Was surprised to see brake vans as thought they'd been phased out by then? As a kid we'd explore along local sidings and climb into old ones when no one cared where you went as much.
Yes Totally agree...fond memories Gail....much appreciated...Mark
Absolutely loved that shunting sequence, wished I'd appreciated it more from the hill back in the late seventies, early eighties
Many thanks for watching and for the comment...my best regards...Mark
That is excellent. Love the 08 moves at the start, with the constant sound of idling 20's. That was the sound track of Toton in my era. My first depot visit there was in 1974 on a spotters tour, 120 engines on shed and living in North Wales, one of the closest places to see 20's at the time.
Many thanks Peter......aaah yes the fantastic old times sadly long gone.....Mark
I started spotting in early 1974 when I was 10 at Leyland (5 miles south of Preston on the WCML). I vaguely remember when the electrification of the WCML had only reached Preston and happy Saturday mornings were spent at Preston station with my older brother watching the electric loco changes to diesel (class 50's usually) heading north, and diesel to electric heading south. There was a stabling point just south west of the station where electric loco's were stabled ready for their return south, which often had at least half a dozen locos parked up. Ladywell House to the north east of the station was the main stabling point at Preston however, where a variety of diesel classes were usually stabled. Over the next few years, as I grew older, I went on weekend "trips" (by train of course) to various places around the country. I remember going to Toton at least twice in the mid to late 70's and was always excited to spot locos I wouldn't see in my home area. Class 44's were always a favourite of mine at Toton. Happy days.................
Great stuff,I worked as a shunter here,from 91 to 94,looks like billy white and bob goff doing the shunting.
Great memories😀
Many thanks and hey to be able to put names to faces....so glad it evoked fond memories, my best regards Mabel.....Mark
Excellent memories, loved the Notts/Yorks MGR scene, great stuff !
You are most welcome....Mark
The sights, the sounds...........I close my eyes and can even smell it too. Thanks for sharing this.
You're very welcome Dougie, best regards....Mark
Brilliant, brought back memory's.There we're a lot more 03 and 08 shunters when I was a kid, and lots more mixed freight. So sad to see it as it is now, it's going to be "re-developed". Thanks for uploading.
You are most welcome...Glad it brought back fond memories....Maek
Some good Nostalgia there. TO was my home depot in the late 70s and early 80s. I would ride my Raleigh Grifter there 8.5 miles each way from my home. I would ride it right on to the depot on a Sunday and walk around unhindered. Great days. I remember the first large logo 56036. 58's weren't even out then an 44s were still knocking around.
Yes indeed good days when there was not so much officialdom. They allowed me to film in the yard once with my camera on a tripod and in the middle of shunting duties. Mind you I was working on the railway then but try it now and you would be arrested straight away, even if you were on the railway....far too much "jobs worth" and H & S....Best regards to you and many thanks....Mark
Great video thanks. Brings back many happy memories. When I was a small boy my Grandad was a guard based at Westhouses. I got to ride in the cab of class a 20 and in the guards van. Happy days
Many thanks Jason......Yes indeed very fond memories.......I loved riding in the old LMS Brake vans....I too sometimes rode with the guard from Millerhill Yard to Blair Atholl in the middle of the night just for a change being hauled by a pair of 20s what was then "The Whisky Train" back in the late 70s.......such memories we should cherish for ever....Best regards........Mark
The Gronks get epic wheel slides on while fly shunting. Thanks for reloading this, loving all the Choppers.
You are most welcome there Rocks........many thanks for watching....Mark
thanks for this video. I used to go up the hill about twice a year to watch all this. I am still a chopperholic.
yes me too John, They had a character about them, like all of the English Electrics, Many thanks. and best regards...Mark
That hill was always cold and windy, even on the best summer days lol.
Amazing upload this! CP1 bogied 56042 and 20170 without headcode box at nose-end. Thanks for filming this back then for all us sectorisation loco addicts! :)
Most appreciated.....Many thanks to you for watching and your appreciative comments........my best regards to you....more will follow....Mark
Cardiff Canton based 37227 was a turn up for the books at Toton.
Excellent video anyway thanks for sharing, very interesting to see how things were 29 years ago, where does time go these days?
It is amazing to see 29 years flash past so quickly, the 37's certainly got about, I am sure I have witnessed 37227 further adrift....many thanks Richard and best regards...Mark
Stationed at Chilwell and enjoyed seeing all the trains
Many thanks Jodie....have a good Christmas....Mark
Reginald Sargeant at Toton? Driver and early engine cleaner. His mother Lily ran the boarding house near the up hump. Now he's my husband 😁
Well worth the watch again
Many thanks Andy...much appreciated....Mark
more happy memories of the biggest coalyard in britain.
Many thanks for watching Caroline and for the comment...my best regards...Mark
This is funny I was reading up on the 56s and came across a bit where it said 1 56 was the test bed for the 58s bogies and I was think I wonder which one was the test bed well now I know 56042 was the test bed.....what a strange coincidence....up loader of video did you know you captured this very loco??? Lol
Many thanks for the fact Ben....It just makes the video a bit more of interest and value, Again many thanks for watching and stay safe....mark
Jocko's are great fun. Fast little shifters
Shunting sure looked dangerous work!!!Hanging on to moving trains I'm sure it wouldn't be allowed nowadays. Did many accidents happen??!!
It was quite an art to master, probably the most trickiest part was uncoupling on the move and coupling, I never witnessed any bad accidents apart from the rare derailment or road spreading (Track coming apart) most shunters were very highly skilled and knew their location well. As far as I know these practices still go on and are within railway rules. My best regards to you....Mark
rare shots of the 'oddball' 56 042, which I think, was the first of the class to go? note it was on trial class 58 bogies.
Yes I recall that vaguely. Many thanks Richard, best regards....Mark
another excellent video
Much appreciated James...You're very welcome....Mark
Lovely video & very enjoyable, when coal was king 👑
Regards
Kev
Many thanks Kev, Coal.....what's that ? ....best regards Mark
Fab
You are most welcome swearingkevo...Mark
What is the loco at the extreme right of the shot at 7:00? It looks like a (very lost) 86?
Dear Mark After much researching through my archives I can almost 99% confirm this was Load Bank Test loco number ADB968023 a BR Departmental loco and was originally 84009 loco which I believe survived until the mid 1990s....Maybe someone out there knows more or can 100% confirm this. watch closely between 11.10 - 11,25 on this video....best regards....Mark
@@spompey nice. Thank you for taking the time to investigate and respond 👍
I'm amazed it caught my eye, but once it did I was convinced it was an AC electric.
Lol, I completely missed the later shots of it in the Video (the times you have referred to).
@@MSmifffy No problem my friend....best regards and thanks for watching....Mark
@@MSmifffy The recording is a little fuzzy, old VHS format but I did have a photo of the loco somewhere...I will have to dig it up....Best wishes....Mark
Anthony Gregory Driver at Toton??? Anyone know him???
Not a name I am familiar with......best regards.......Mark
Yep,flash,I remember him.
LE is Light Engine NOT Long Eaton🤦