lol My best deathrattle/sneeds deck is with Priest, a copy of each N'Zoth and then that hero that recasts all deathrattles triggered this game. - with many copies of albatrosses if possible. Or copy many N'Zoths into your deck as rogue.
For the mathematically interested, the expected number of cards drawn by Roll the Bones is given by D/(ND+1), where D is the amount of deathrattle cards left in deck, while ND is the number of non-deathrattle cards. As an example, if you go first and have 3 deathrattles in the opening hand + Roll the Bones, there's 21 deathrattles left in the deck, and 5 non-deathrattles (2nd Roll the Bones, 2x Snowfall Graveyard, Anka, Umbra), so expected draw is 21/(5+1) = 3.5. For the even more mathematically interested ig, this number overestimates the average, as it only counts how many cards you *would draw* in an idealized world and does not take into account that the draw stops after your hand fills up. Finding a correct formula that also depends on how many cards left in hand is left as an exercise for the reader.
I think you need to add 1. The expected value you provided is the expected number of death rattle cards drawn by roll the bones, roll the bones will also draw 1 non death rattle card at the end
@@jonathanf4088 I agree with you. I ran the calcs of all possible outcomes assuming infinite hand size and came up with an expected draw of 4.5. Also, I wasn't sure how to make the formula myself so I just expanded my spreadsheet to take into account maximum hand size and using the exact scenario above, the expected draw would be reduced to 3.45. Although this probably isn't possible, if you play audio amplifier (max hand size = 11) and maintain the above conditions, that brings your expected draw to 3.68. Felgorge brings you up to an expected draw of 3.88 with above conditions. I know that's a warlock card and it probably would be impossible to play amplifier and/or felgorge as rogue while still having 26 cards in deck (21 deathrattles), 1 roll the bones in hand, and 3 deathrattles in hand. My spreadsheet should be able to take into account any funky scenarios you'd want to come up with yourself if anyone wants it. Things get weird with max hand size as that restriction just starts hard cutting off possibilities so I just assumed that the relative probabilities between the outcomes were maintained and recalculated their effective probabilities using the weight between them. That ensures the integrity of the expected value calculation is maintained. I'm not actually sure if that's correct (I only took a couple of stats classes in college), but my gut check tells me it's at least an excellent estimation.
@@deuceT Two syllables (hadn't noticed); now that I look at it, without the second 'the' it's the same metre for the two lines. You're out there doing great work, dude :D
Dane giving the whole community a case of “Sneads Blue Balls”. Hyped us up with a title and then never delivered the Sneads. Well done son, you got us all really well. On a side note, how is this heat wave effecting your garden. I’m from the central east coast of the US and the heat has been oppressive this summer and the only things that are doing well are the plants/flowers & veggies that I planted in raised beds with built in cooling for the summer and heat for the winter, through a series of geothermal pipes snaked throughout the soil every 1 ft of depth, for a total of 3 ft worth of soil temp control.
I CAN NOT explain how excited I get when Dane posts a deathrattle video with SNEEDS Edit: Not the SNEEDS content I was hoping for but still great games.
I remember when I started playing Hearthstone back in GvG, Sneed was my first legendary and when I looked at the text I tought "Wow, he can be ANY legendary minion? This must be the best legendary yet!" I've lost the account from back then but I will never forget putting Sneed in every deck because the idea of an extra legendary was just so cool.
I started at Naxx expansion but sneers was the first legendary I crafted because I thought why craft just 1 legendary when I can craft 1 that will get me ALL legendaries 😅
Liked the video solely for the intro. 10/10 Edit: imagine playing Roll the Bones in a deck where literally every card has the text Deathrattle on it and still only drawing an average of two cards
that was some insane value from umbra in that first game. that was pretty much play forged fiend and get 40 armor. 32 straight up from the umbras and then another 8 when it died. that was just great to watch
I once did legend in wild with this deck (except Sneeds). I had all the cards and didn't know what to do with them and than Dane came up with this deck :)
The roll the bones odds: first match : when you cast it you had 22 card remaining in the deck, 4 of which were not deathrattle to draw exactly 1 card, one of the 4 must be on top 1/22 to have the first on top ,1/21 second on top,1/20 third on top ,1/19 fourth -> the sum is 0.181 -> 18.1% to draw only one card to draw exactly 2 card, one of the 4 must be on second place and none in first 1/22 to have first in second place, (20/22 to have it in third place or more) 20/22 * 1/21 to have second in second place while first is in third or more, (19/21 to have it in third place or more) 20/22 * 19/21 * 1/20 to have third in second place while first&second is in third or more, (18/20 to have it in third place or more) 20/22 * 19/21 * 18/20 * 1 / 19 to have fourth in second place while first,second&third is in third or more, -> sum is 0.168 -> 16.8% to draw only 2 card ( repeat for 3 ) -> 0.1567 -> 15.6 % to draw exactly 3 you had 50.5%chance to draw 3 or fewer cards (49.5% to draw 4 or more)-> you were on the average second match: when you cast it you had 25 card remaining in the deck, 3 of which were not deathrattle 1 card : 1/25 +24/25 * 1/24 + 24/25 * 23/24 * 1/23 -> 12% 2 card : 1/25 +23/25 * 1/24 + 23/25 * 22/24 * 1/23 -> 11.5% 3 card : 1/25 +22/25 * 1/24 + 22/25 * 21/24 * 1/23 -> 11% you had 34.5% to draw 3 or fewer card (65.5% to draw 4 or more)-> you got unlucky third match: when you cast it you had 25 card remaining in the deck, 4 of which were not deathrattle 1 card : 1/25 + 1/24 + 1/23 + 1/22 -> you dad 17% to draw 1 (or fewer) card (83% to draw 2 or more) , unlucky fourth match : when you cast it you had 15 card remaining in the deck, 1 of which were not deathrattle 1 card : 1/15 -> 0.066 2 card : 1/15 3 card : 1/15 4 card : 1/15 5 card : 1/15 6 card : 1/15 you had 40% chance to draw 6 or fewer card ( 60% to draw 7 or more) , unlucky again
17:25 when the weapon breaks and triggers the Blightnozzle Crawler's deathrattle, shouldn't it summon only two Oozes because the Snowfall Graveyard is active? Why does it summon 4 Oozes instead of two?
The Deathrattles multiply. The weapon breaks, its deathrattle gets doubled because of the graveyard so it triggers the Crawler twice, but that effect then also gets doubled because of graveyard, resulting in 4 oozes
Makes a video about sneers, never once played a needs in entire video lmao. That said every play you DID do I would not have done differently so this was extremely satisfying to watch!
Okay, 8 months 2 expansions. Let's see what what those card have to offer of course dane has best fun decks, that actualy try to use those epic fun cards
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Here is the one time I played Sneeds th-cam.com/video/tCO1aYlVriY/w-d-xo.html
Been chasing that high ever since
lol
My best deathrattle/sneeds deck is with Priest, a copy of each N'Zoth and then that hero that recasts all deathrattles triggered this game. - with many copies of albatrosses if possible.
Or copy many N'Zoths into your deck as rogue.
That was a great game.
So any replacement for sneeds? ¬_¬
I remember watching this when it came out. Glorious.
It will never not be satisfying to watch Mech Paladin get dunked on, especially by a Sneed’s deck (he’s never on board but he’s in our hearts).
For the mathematically interested, the expected number of cards drawn by Roll the Bones is given by D/(ND+1), where D is the amount of deathrattle cards left in deck, while ND is the number of non-deathrattle cards.
As an example, if you go first and have 3 deathrattles in the opening hand + Roll the Bones, there's 21 deathrattles left in the deck, and 5 non-deathrattles (2nd Roll the Bones, 2x Snowfall Graveyard, Anka, Umbra), so expected draw is 21/(5+1) = 3.5.
For the even more mathematically interested ig, this number overestimates the average, as it only counts how many cards you *would draw* in an idealized world and does not take into account that the draw stops after your hand fills up. Finding a correct formula that also depends on how many cards left in hand is left as an exercise for the reader.
thank you!
Very cool, thank you :)
I think you need to add 1. The expected value you provided is the expected number of death rattle cards drawn by roll the bones, roll the bones will also draw 1 non death rattle card at the end
@@jonathanf4088 I agree with you.
I ran the calcs of all possible outcomes assuming infinite hand size and came up with an expected draw of 4.5. Also, I wasn't sure how to make the formula myself so I just expanded my spreadsheet to take into account maximum hand size and using the exact scenario above, the expected draw would be reduced to 3.45. Although this probably isn't possible, if you play audio amplifier (max hand size = 11) and maintain the above conditions, that brings your expected draw to 3.68. Felgorge brings you up to an expected draw of 3.88 with above conditions. I know that's a warlock card and it probably would be impossible to play amplifier and/or felgorge as rogue while still having 26 cards in deck (21 deathrattles), 1 roll the bones in hand, and 3 deathrattles in hand. My spreadsheet should be able to take into account any funky scenarios you'd want to come up with yourself if anyone wants it.
Things get weird with max hand size as that restriction just starts hard cutting off possibilities so I just assumed that the relative probabilities between the outcomes were maintained and recalculated their effective probabilities using the weight between them. That ensures the integrity of the expected value calculation is maintained. I'm not actually sure if that's correct (I only took a couple of stats classes in college), but my gut check tells me it's at least an excellent estimation.
@@garrettstory3735 holy moly! This is some r/theydidthemath caliber mathing dedicated to something exceedingly silly! Well done!
Just the threat of playing Sneed's was enough to get the concedes.
Sick rhyme bro XD
@@kouriiit started out as a Haiku, but I forgot the traditional structure. I think I missed it by 1 or 2 syllables.
@@deuceT Two syllables (hadn't noticed); now that I look at it, without the second 'the' it's the same metre for the two lines. You're out there doing great work, dude :D
I didn't realize we were going to get a payoff on the Sneeds mention this soon
Strange wording. I never felt so little payed off in my life.
@@poppers7317 The real Sneed's payoff were the friends we made along the way.
Me neither! So happy
Man's love sneeds--its a magical thing.
What’s Sneed’s?
This video is yet another reminder that rogue is NOT an armour class, thank you once again for this lesson Dane.
I feel cheated.
I was promised a sneeds video, but he wasn't played once
This will be Dane's in joke for the next few months
Dane giving the whole community a case of “Sneads Blue Balls”. Hyped us up with a title and then never delivered the Sneads. Well done son, you got us all really well.
On a side note, how is this heat wave effecting your garden. I’m from the central east coast of the US and the heat has been oppressive this summer and the only things that are doing well are the plants/flowers & veggies that I planted in raised beds with built in cooling for the summer and heat for the winter, through a series of geothermal pipes snaked throughout the soil every 1 ft of depth, for a total of 3 ft worth of soil temp control.
I CAN NOT explain how excited I get when Dane posts a deathrattle video with SNEEDS
Edit: Not the SNEEDS content I was hoping for but still great games.
I remember when I started playing Hearthstone back in GvG, Sneed was my first legendary and when I looked at the text I tought "Wow, he can be ANY legendary minion? This must be the best legendary yet!"
I've lost the account from back then but I will never forget putting Sneed in every deck because the idea of an extra legendary was just so cool.
“It could be any legendary, it could even be Sneed’s”
I started at Naxx expansion but sneers was the first legendary I crafted because I thought why craft just 1 legendary when I can craft 1 that will get me ALL legendaries 😅
I do remember when Sneed's died and Shaw popped out, and it was glorious.
Got to see a Neptulon Priest get their dreams crushed. Worth it for that alone.
Psychological warfare with sneeds remastered in color
Liked the video solely for the intro. 10/10
Edit: imagine playing Roll the Bones in a deck where literally every card has the text Deathrattle on it and still only drawing an average of two cards
"Mind if I roll Sneed?"
"What is my purpose?"
"You activate Sheep two times."
"Oh my god."
Ahaha
Ultimate Sneed's Deck formerly the Ultimate Chuck's deck
The intro animation really does type “DEATHRATTLE”. Nice touch!
That Odd Paladin was an Odd thinker. I forgot multiple Umbra(s) stacked.
New bar for Dane intros
Wow we actually saw Sneeds in hand! Let's go!
Sadge no sneeds in the actual video
that was some insane value from umbra in that first game. that was pretty much play forged fiend and get 40 armor. 32 straight up from the umbras and then another 8 when it died. that was just great to watch
Cosmic Dane loves to waffle on and it's glorious how it fades away while he does.
Pls make longer videos, i would watch them all, 30min would be the perfect length to help me fall asleep 💙
A Sneeds video
0 Sneeds played
I love this archetype. Especially when seasoned with Dane's laugh
holy shit that umbra play was insane :D
i want this type of into in all the videos from now on. it's addictive.
The ultimate Sneeds deck is a deck that wins without drawing Sneeds
ALL GLORY TO THE DANEHEAD
The only HS creator that I'm happy to watch the whole video. Almost at 100k subs :D
Is anyone not going to mention dane's intros are only getting better and better.
the animated intros are great, keep'em coming lad!
I like to believe that intro dane is from a specific dimension
Hi Dane! I have every card in this deck except Sneeds. Can I replace him with something else or is he crucial for the deck to function? XD
Second copy of blightnozzle?
No, he is crucial. Didn't you see how much value he got this video?
@@aidankenealy2231 Apologies, you're absolutely correct. I'll dust some of my other decks to craft him ASAP.
who would have ever thought that oooh monsters behind you would be too slow
Most people, after it was nerfed to cost 5 mana
So much death rattle value, I just love your content so much
Questline Druid gets countered by interactive gameplay, crazy to think.
Imagine making a Sneed’s video and never playing Sneed’s. Dane, you’re a sick man.
I once did legend in wild with this deck (except Sneeds). I had all the cards and didn't know what to do with them and than Dane came up with this deck :)
Did you get the bodiless head concept from Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds, Dane? That musical's a banger.
"Its sneeding time" - Sneeds ol shredder
I also love the superb vomit sound.
thanks for putting the deck code in the descrpt. dude you're one of the best keep it up bud
The roll the bones odds:
first match : when you cast it you had 22 card remaining in the deck, 4 of which were not deathrattle
to draw exactly 1 card, one of the 4 must be on top
1/22 to have the first on top ,1/21 second on top,1/20 third on top ,1/19 fourth -> the sum is 0.181 -> 18.1% to draw only one card
to draw exactly 2 card, one of the 4 must be on second place and none in first
1/22 to have first in second place, (20/22 to have it in third place or more)
20/22 * 1/21 to have second in second place while first is in third or more, (19/21 to have it in third place or more)
20/22 * 19/21 * 1/20 to have third in second place while first&second is in third or more, (18/20 to have it in third place or more)
20/22 * 19/21 * 18/20 * 1 / 19 to have fourth in second place while first,second&third is in third or more,
-> sum is 0.168 -> 16.8% to draw only 2 card
( repeat for 3 ) -> 0.1567 -> 15.6 % to draw exactly 3
you had 50.5%chance to draw 3 or fewer cards (49.5% to draw 4 or more)-> you were on the average
second match: when you cast it you had 25 card remaining in the deck, 3 of which were not deathrattle
1 card : 1/25 +24/25 * 1/24 + 24/25 * 23/24 * 1/23 -> 12%
2 card : 1/25 +23/25 * 1/24 + 23/25 * 22/24 * 1/23 -> 11.5%
3 card : 1/25 +22/25 * 1/24 + 22/25 * 21/24 * 1/23 -> 11%
you had 34.5% to draw 3 or fewer card (65.5% to draw 4 or more)-> you got unlucky
third match: when you cast it you had 25 card remaining in the deck, 4 of which were not deathrattle
1 card : 1/25 + 1/24 + 1/23 + 1/22 ->
you dad 17% to draw 1 (or fewer) card (83% to draw 2 or more) , unlucky
fourth match : when you cast it you had 15 card remaining in the deck, 1 of which were not deathrattle
1 card : 1/15 -> 0.066
2 card : 1/15
3 card : 1/15
4 card : 1/15
5 card : 1/15
6 card : 1/15
you had 40% chance to draw 6 or fewer card ( 60% to draw 7 or more) , unlucky again
That little 2/1 rat that reduces deathrattles cost by one truly might just never have its chance
Who watches a Dane video at 2 AM?
OH BOY 2 AM
4 am here brother lol
Good deck, loving the gameplay, wild
I dig this Wizard of Oz version of Dane
Paladin: Me not afraid of legendary, me go FACE!
B-but me go face... how come opponent have million health?
Sneed in this video reminded me of my dad
"I like the slow, painful method"
epic sneed deck!
sneeds played = 0
All hail sneeds
Edit: I've been dupped
All hail Dane!
From what I’m gathering, the ultimate sneeds deck is one where he never gets played
The ultimate Sneed's deck that doesn't play Sneed's.
Dane blessing og hearthstone players 🫡
Best deck ever.
17:25 when the weapon breaks and triggers the Blightnozzle Crawler's deathrattle, shouldn't it summon only two Oozes because the Snowfall Graveyard is active? Why does it summon 4 Oozes instead of two?
The Deathrattles multiply. The weapon breaks, its deathrattle gets doubled because of the graveyard so it triggers the Crawler twice, but that effect then also gets doubled because of graveyard, resulting in 4 oozes
@@Staubsaugaer Right that makes sense, thank you
Nice deck. Is it possible to create a control rogue deck in wild in current state?
ULTIMATE SNEED DECK! Never plays Sneed. Truly, this is the best Sneed deck.
The sneeds in question
Gorefiend, Battlecry: gain 32 armor
My favourite part was when he played Sneeds
beautiful
Snead's little green prick tease.
NEVER take my Sneeds.
Ah yes. Armour Rogue
When you casually go from 10 health to 102
I feel betrayed.
Sneeds? Instant like!
Sneedless Sneed gameplay
The feed and seed is insane
(formerly chuck's old shredder)
Yes! A use for for my sneeds!
How do you feel that your are probably the main reason why someone would consider adding platebreaker to their deck or ETC.
Very much a clickbait vid, THE COIN didn’t have deathrattle in it.
I wish Cosmic Dane was able to finish his Hearthstone stories. I really want to know how they end.
SNEED’S FIESTA 2.0
what about this rat card that reduces deathrattle in your deck?
Sneeds is short for sick needs - which we can see in this videos
That was so good
Dane....ur crazy man
Perfect Sneed without Sneed
didn't play sneeds a SINGLE time
Love u dane
"could you imagine Sneed's there?". Wasn't the board full? I imagine it'd have been a fun taunt at least
I think he means playing a sneeds with 3 umbras live
@@ShuckleShellAnemiaor he's riffing on the idea that he loves Sneed's but it really doesn't have a place.
@@Yewtewba maybe, but this is just how I interpreted it
where sneed? We've been robbed!
No Sneeds content! Do-over! ; )
I agree!
So any replacement for sneeds? ¬_¬
23:27 for the sick
Sneeds highlight 🤖
Sneeds Feed and Seed Formerly Chuck's deck
Makes a video about sneers, never once played a needs in entire video lmao. That said every play you DID do I would not have done differently so this was extremely satisfying to watch!
We saw sneeds once, never even played.
My guy. This is just a deathrattle deck.
Sneeds MVP!! wait ... :P
Okay, 8 months 2 expansions. Let's see what what those card have to offer
of course dane has best fun decks, that actualy try to use those epic fun cards
None of the clips include Sneeds :((
My dude, where was the Sneed's?!
The coin didn’t have deathrattle in it