Now go explain this to a child who cried out to God for help before being brutally r&ped while God sat back and watched without doing a single thing to stop it. And after that, go explain the same thing to the child's parents whose prayers to God were met with silence.
Wow, epic burn... This is a serious truth bomb and it needed to be said. You are correct. There is no excuse whatsoever for an "all powerful God" to fail to protect the innocent, especially when his Bible conveys otherwise. When you look at what's written vs. the actual results, the Bible just becomes a book of empty words.
That little child will wonder for the rest of his life why God refused to save him from evil. And then, when God finally answers him; "because suffering is a part of life," that child will become a God hating atheist.
First, I was that child. For years I would have agreed with you. But that was before I knew God. His very character is good, nothing about him is evil. Just because you and I don’t understand why certain things happen, doesn’t change Gods character.
@@Jesusmyhopeofglory I understand that God has and continues to ignore the cries of innocent children all around the world, and that's all I need to understand to know that God's character is filth. I am sorry to what happened to you as a child, and I'm sorry we live under a God who didn't have the character to protect you from it.
That answer still makes no sense. If God gave us Free Will, Created Humans, and Knows the Future then he is 100% to blame. You can’t set up the conditions for evil to exist and then get upset when evil happens even though you knew it would. If God never wanted children to have cancer he could have created a world where only conscious adults can freely decide to do evil things and then punish them accordingly.
Of course he is to blame and he accepts that. Free will is what allows us to differ right from wrong. Meaning that everything that he's done and continues to do is calculated. It's the same idea as Ying and yang. You cannot have good without evil, light without the dark, it's balance. We see death as a bad thing and fear it. But you don't see the good that comes from ones death until long afterwards. Not saying family and friends dying is a good thing. I'm saying when they do you usually talk with people you haven't seen in ages, you laugh and remember all the food times you had with that person and all the good things they did for you. Blaming God doesn't help. Also how can you blame something you don't believe in?
I dont think God is to blame i think man is to blame, i see all BLM protest but black people claims would have more validation if black people had more respect for each other. People in general mistreat other people very badly but they think they deserve to have good health. Its sad when the children who have done nothing get illnesses but unfortunately humans as a collective would have less cancer if we treated each other better collectively. Me personally im glad to be ill im old and i wont have to live in the racist dishonest corrupt society. Poor people who have no power to defend themselves against racist corrupt officials pray and God answers their prayers. No one people have cornered the market for sympathy so many situations are sad but society mocks one kids death and cry their eyes for another, When will man stop blaming god for everything he has done and continue to do wrong. Destroying nature to generate profits. Even if i get terminal cancer i thank God for the life that i had being controlled and mistreated by racists who want to make fear for my life for being black along with anything they can entrap me to do wrong without them feeling any shame or guilt of all the wrong they do. I hope cancer patients will make a full recovery. But i hope people would stop doing bad and expecting good.
@@zhstagr You can have good without evil and light without dark, since "god" created all of that, he can put up the rules he wants. God isn't all-loving and all-forgiving since all the cruel things that happen in the world have been also created and perfectly avoided by him.
"100% to blame" makes it seem like God has this evil plan of wanting children to die from cancer. Is it God's RESPONSIBILITY ? 100%, but "blame" is not the appropriate word. 1. You cant judge God's logic with human logic. This is a mistake a lot of atheists fall into (like i used to). 2. If you eliminate cancer from children, it means you should eliminate all diseases from children ... Which means all diseases from everyone ... Which means literally any sign of suffering... Which means lack of free will. Could God do that ? Yes, but if he created us with free will, would it make sense to remove that along with every suffering ? I personally, don't think so (also it follows the laws of nature and physics btw, cancer is quite a simple disease in terms of biological reasons. So if you ever wanted to eliminate a disease as God, maybe you would go for that super complicated disease that almost no one gets)
@@WillySalamigod has a path for you and when people refer to god as all knowing, that means he knows that that plan he has lined up for you is best for you. That doesn’t mean you have to choose it but it is the best for you. You also cannot have good without evil because without the option for evil there is no virtue to be good. If you can’t be evil you cannot technically be good. Because you would not be choosing to be good you would have no other option. The reason people are “good” is because we live in a world where evil decisions are often easy and tempting. Hope that helps explain things a little more😃
It could be even without religion and only scientifically. Maybe not you specifically but genetic mutations might not happen "just because", its the environment, food, drinks, etc
@@paulduffy6259 Yep thats a sin. Blindly follow your empty book or be casted down into the realm of it doesn't exist. Hope they remembered that God once allowed men to openly murder other men.
So God punishes the world for being sinful by giving children who could possibly improve the world untreatable cancers? Why does God not give every man a fair chane in this world? I'm not trying to say this in a rude manner, but rather from a critical point of view and a willingness to change. I'm a firm believer of equality, and seeing my childhood best friend, who was Christian, die from an uncurable cancer goes against any logical form of equality. If God is good, why does he indiscriminently punish? Why does an innocent child of God have to pay for someone elses sin?
Bingo, it makes not sense that a deity that loves his creations would silence and destroy the very ones that would allow success. You have just discovered the second of six major flaws with Christianity that ..pretty much...call it.
One of the important doctrines in Christianity is that our God came and shared our sufferings too. He also took our sins and punished for us. My Redeermer savior Jesus. My Lord and my God
@@oswaldcobblepot502 think about rape is evil let people go have sex with same gender and some people with animals too and you just hold a board of justice for it and March for it but you are not ready to believe and process that you have no future reading power like god he does kill children yes but i have no answer I can't read god's heart what if the same God gave the same parents two more kids instead of that loss of loosing one child because of leukemia are tell them blatantly follow god
@@oswaldcobblepot502God told the rapist that it is wrong. The state told the rapist that it is wrong. The parents were told to look for their child because it is wrong. You however did nothing to prevent it. You sat by and watch because you do not care even one bit. Your "argument" is flawed because it happenes every day and you simply ignore it in favour of your very own bliss. Because is not "your buissnes". A teacher teaching the meaning of all-good can only try until the student learns the lesson. We have not even atempted to go to class as of yet.
Why do you believe that child is worth more than the cell festering inside its bones? If there truly is a God, and said God is also truly all-good, the life of a cell is no different that the life of a human because they are all equaly loved. Now, whether or not God gave us sentience or we evolved it is irrelevant here because instead of turning us into mindless creatures he gave us the chance to study and to learn and understand his, for us, paradoxical perspective of kindness until we ourselfs are all-good. Until we understand to value life and existence. Right now, we have not even started.
Their suffering shtick is all they have. Otherwise their brains will be caught on the thorny issue of theodicy. So they bore us rigid with claims of Jesus's suffering then claim it wasn't enough, so humans have to suffer as well.
Atheism requires more faith than any religion. Believing that the universe came from nothing and life came from non-life and consciousness came from the unconscious is a very robust faith. If God does not exist and there is no objective morality, our human standard of morality is stupid: Charity, fidelity, justice, generosity, kindness... are stupid in nature. Without God, there is no reason why we shouldn't kill each other and plunder each other because there is no objective morality of right and wrong, only perspectives.
I’m so glad that Guy can see through what you’re saying because you’re saying nothing. God gives good things bit doesn’t give bad? You didn’t give that guy an answer because you don’t have one
The Ten Commandments are called the moral law. You and I broke the law, Jesus paid the fine. That’s what happened on that cross that day. But you must repent and believe in Christ. Trust Him like you would a parachute. It isn’t enough to know the parachute can save you, you have to put it on. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
I will complete your sentence. "God is not just the creator of morality but also the creator of all deadly diseases including cancer and viral infections which causes bodies to deteriorate in the most pain inducing way including innocent children so that individuals can enter his abode in heaven"
Im must seem like a horrible bastard but im really surprised that people think they dont deserve pstd or cancer i think people collectively are extremely corrupt and toxic and cancerous .
Let me recap that for you: Omniscient and all mighty God who knows everything and can do anything, creates a flawed man, being aware ahead of human flaws, accuses humans of those flaws so he then can destroy humans with flood and fire, but let Satan live. Very nice story, but loses it's sense once a Catholic child reaches the age of reason.
Because he gave us free will and did not made us mindless robots. To teach a child how to behave in certain ways so that it wont end a species instead of getting rid of it after the first simple mistake is the most fundamental principle of growth and evolution. So how can you judge a teacher when you have not yet leatned the lesson? How can you judge a paradoxical force like omnipotence, omnicient and omnibenelovence when you are a mortal mind? When you hail change zoday in the name of "good" only for it to be labled "evil" decades later?
God does not give people cancer or any sickness,we inherited the weakness to illness from our original parents at the beginning of time,But God has made a way for us to get back to God through Jesus,
It's just as bad to sit back and do nothing to protect your own kids from evil like God does. "Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin." Why does that apply to us, but God exempts himself from his own law? Failure to prevent your children from being victimized (especially when you have all the ability to do so like God does) is a sin of omission and makes you an evil coward.
Oh and don't forget about what he did to Job. He sent the devil to go torture him and ruined his entire life over a bet. Is the picture of God's true character becoming any clearer to you yet?
If god were good, he would give the cancer to those who did evil. Kids haven't done evil, they can't. They learn and are kids. Why are they being punished for something their parents did? And if they did, how did the kids get the cancer? Did god give it to them for their parents sins? I don't understand how exactly those kids are punished and by whom/what?
Christian answer is that children are innocent, and if they die they will go to heaven. This world is not place where its guaranteed happiness. And punishment for evil people is hell.
Diseases enter just about anyone. The result of living in a sinful world. You've hurt me with your sins, I've hurt you with my sins. Your neighbor hurt you with their sins, just like mine
@@OnlyAnimals01 that doesn‘t explain why some children have to go through pain and suffering because of illness, and especially not why so many of gods children have been abused by those who swore to protect them, the priests. I truly believe the christian religion has done more harm than harm to this world than good. If your god is almighty, then he is responsible for everything. If he created this world, its his job to make sure we don’t get out of hand. Peter 3:9 says: „Do not repay evil with evil.“ So why does god exactly that? Why do the children get punished?
@@ChefGoreb definitely does explain it. Youve betrayed God with your sins, your friend betrayed God with his sins, i betrayed God with my sins. Result? Curse upon the ground. Diseases and suffering is the result. Sin entered through one man. Youve heard of adam and eve. And how was any of this Gods fault again? How was it any of Gods fault that YOU with the mind he gave you CHOSE to SIN against God? You think sin has no consequence? Had there not been a single sin in this world we would all be living with God in that garden in paradise forever, no death, no illness, no pain, no crying
God is not the one. Satan, or otherwise Lucifer, was the one who created these things to make us believe that God is horrible, to drive us away from him and into Hell.
Why would god let satan convince people he doesnt exist? Why the hell would god still send them to hell if it really were satans fault they were let astray?
@@ToastEr-f3bBecause of our modern sense of justice: You can only teach a child to behave instead of turning it into a minfles automaton. If said child still wont behave you need to seek other ways to teach said child until it underdtands the meaning of all-good itself!
@@rightousnesspursuer6523 Christianity is just another belief. i cannot control what i believe. nobody can control what thy believe since its all based on if they are convinced. Thats why i dont believe god. i simply havnt seen convincing evidence
So...OK...it says in the first three chapters ... there is disease and suffering because the child he created in his own image "unexpectedly" disobeyed him (go figure that mistake mad by a supposedly all knowing being), so he cast him out of paradise onto the street and cursed all his offspring. What would god think if we did that to our own children on their first offense. Great example. Seems like he wants us to be better than he was
With all the poisons we put into our bodies, Alcohol, Tobacco, Drugs , soft drinks , etc , our lifestyles alone the stress the way we abuse our bodies over the generations our bodies begin to degenerate and become more sceptical to diseases and disfigurements ,
Yeah all those kids with their cancer from drugs and all the stress. Toddlers should really maintain a better work-life-health balance to avoid getting that leukemia. That makes no sense - whatsoever.
If u don’t live in the US, soft drinks are actually not that bad, here in Italy the most common soft drink is made from Italian Oranges and only added water and sugar. No chemicals, no preservatives, no nothing. Just pure nature. Most of the local stuff is like that, most US drinks are not even allowed to enter the EU without having to change the formula completely (esp. not using corn sirup or BVO)
My answer to this question would be to look to the shroud of turin. Do some heavy research on the shroud, and i mean heavy research. Go past the wikipedia article please. And then go listen to some experiences of people with NDEs, see how they shed tears saying they were headed for hell and saved by the grace of Christ. I am not God. I am not more intelligent than God. I am not wiser than God. Instead, I am God's child - if God gave me cancer in 2 years from now, I can't say I'd grieve. I would fear for my salvation and spend my last days becoming intimate with Christ Jesus, I would repent for my sin, mourn the sin I've commited, the time I've lived without God, and would be hopeful to make people's lives better in my last days. God is real. Why would kids get cancer? Why would the holocaust happen? There's a simple answer: I don't know, at all, what goes on in the mind of God. I know I want to present a soul without stains, with good works, and with the salvation of His only begotten son when I meet him, to sup at His table and not with Satan. The people I've known who've suffered this tragedy in their own lives have come intimately close with Christ. Christians grow through tragedy. We don't ask questions we cannot fathom the answers to. We embrace our savior and let Him guide our lives in this one so that we may live eternally in the next.
This still is a bad argument. Its not "beyond our understanding." its simply an illogical god. If god wants us to be happy and hes all powerful then that would mean that ANY suffering that isnt caused by humans SHOULDNT exist. Even ANIMAL suffering shouldnt exist. Literally everything that we describe as being terrible and sufferage is also what animals constantly feel. So basically god created a world where not only humans would needlessly suffer but also animals? Yeah no that god is a dick
You never answered his question. You responded to his question with another question. That is NOT answering the question. And that pat 'answer' of yours that God is going to make everything alright (straight out of the 'jam tomorrow' political playbook) is not going to cut any ice with people who have left your incompetent, impotent God behind.
Look up the “toolbox murders”, one of the little girls asked to pray but the men didn’t let her. Or look up any of the myriad various serial killers who tortured little kids before they killed them. All I want to know is why is this reality the one we all had to suffer in. God could have created any reality He chose. But this reality where people can torture children beyond comprehension?! Why?! Is their torment nothing to Him just because in the end MAYBE they will be saved? What about those that are so mentally destroyed by such torment? Does God account for what He allowed to be inflicted upon them and their minds when He judges their actions? What about those who are killed by murderers but the murderer is saved later on in some jail cell? Did God give the same grace for those that were killed by the murderer or might those killed be burning and writhing in some eternal hellfire for all eternity even as the person that cut their life short is saved?
Why do you believe that child is worth more than the cell festering inside its bones? If there truly is a God, and said God is also truly all-good, the life of a cell is no different that the life of a human because they are all equaly loved. Now, whether or not God gave us sentience or we evolved it is irrelevant here because instead of turning us into mindless creatures he gave us the chance to study and to learn and understand his, for us, paradoxical perspective of kindness until we ourselfs are all-good. Until we understand to value life and existence. Right now, we have not even started.
There’s a better explanation for the question this boy asked and the man didnt do a good job answering. Pray to God and ask him for a good church and for a deep understanding of his word. That’s it everything else is on you.
The answer, as far as I can tell, is something in the book of Job. Job is an adult, not a child, but the needless suffering and pondering on the goodness of God is found in this writing.
GOD is responsible for the FACT of freedom, and humans are responsible for their acts of freedom!!!!! And when Adam and Eve's used their freedom to disobey, the whole of creation was cursed, including themselves! This cursed incurred death, disease, calamity, pain ,sadness, and misery! But GOD has redeemed it and will continue to redeem it until the complete restoration of the world when HE returns to restore HIS Kingdom!
God has the freedom to save innocent children from being abducted and r&ped. But he'd rather sit back, do nothing, and listen to them beg him for help.
@PeterFour22 God can't lie, change or learn and HE also can't violate humanities freewill! If HE did, there wouldn't be true love in the world. Without the possibility of true evil there wouldn't be the possibility of true love. We get the choice. We can either choose to love others or hate them and hurt them. We humanity get that choice and unfortunately we choose wrongly often.
@@MegaAce54 How is it a violation of human free will to protect a child from being molested?? You are making pathetic excuses for your God's deplorable character.
Oh yea I have last stage cancer n was an epilepsy patient ever since I was a child I have been sick for the most of my life and now I'm going to die in the most horrific and painful way.. But hey instead jus letting me die God is going to put me in hell for eternity n I will burn for eternity for loving him .. for all the blessings he can given me which are basically none And another thing the logic is fked up some people get to live like 80 years so they can sin for most of their life n then repent But I'm going to die at the age 22 so I will burn in hell for infinity jus 12 years of finite life What a wonderful gift
the world will not be fixed by god. evil will never disappear because evil does not exist without good. so for both to exist it needs to continue, and the fact he's saying god is waiting for people to repent...and follow faith... uh did u not hear me, there will be some repent and some not because if everyone repented... then evil does not exist and that makes good lose meaning...
He didn't answer the question.. A 4 year old child is innocent.. Why did he give a child cancer make it suffer in pain for 2 years and kill it at 6 years old. Its a very simple question
The thing is, and satanists know this, God didn’t give the cancer… He let Satan attack them with cancer. Which is… probably even worse knowing that God let Satan give someone innocent like children and like Job diseases.
The "why" no one can answer except God because you cant use human logic on God's logic, by definition. However, you can have ideas: maybe heaven is worth suffering for 2 years, maybe cancer is a natural consequences of biological and physical laws associated also with free will (polution, food, etc), maybe that child's suffering impacted everyone around them in a positive manner. The list is endless, but to say that "God wouldn't do that, cancer is horrible" is in my opinion ignoring the infinite possibilities, and trying to understand God with faulty human logic, you just can't. So in summary: i don't know why, nobody can know why, you can just speculate and look at it as positive as you can and wish that child and the doctors the best
@@newme1589 This still is a bad argument. Its not "beyond our understanding." its simply an illogical god. If god wants to be happy and hes all powerful then that would mean that ANY suffering that isnt caused by humans SHOULDNT exist. Even ANIMAL suffering shouldnt exist. Literally everything that we describe as being terrible and sufferage is also what animals constantly feel. So basically god created a world where not only humans would needlessly suffer but also animals? Yeah no that god is a dick
@@newme1589 Imagine a dude, who created the entire fucking universe looking at our species and going "Well, I guess I'll just let that one play out!" while he goes off to fuck with his aliens in galaxy 39-c. Fucking ridiculous.
@@HeadshotDisorderimagine a big green and blue sphere revolving around the sun in galaxy 58-a where there’s 8 billion aliens who all speak 7100 different languages and build flying metal cans to travel across the revolving super dome who’s makeup is 71% water. Ridiculous am I right? Twisting words doesn’t make reality invalid.
John, you have such a gentleness about you. May the Lord Bless you and Keep you and continue to use you to be salt and light. ❤
Now go explain this to a child who cried out to God for help before being brutally r&ped while God sat back and watched without doing a single thing to stop it. And after that, go explain the same thing to the child's parents whose prayers to God were met with silence.
Wow, epic burn... This is a serious truth bomb and it needed to be said. You are correct. There is no excuse whatsoever for an "all powerful God" to fail to protect the innocent, especially when his Bible conveys otherwise. When you look at what's written vs. the actual results, the Bible just becomes a book of empty words.
That little child will wonder for the rest of his life why God refused to save him from evil. And then, when God finally answers him; "because suffering is a part of life," that child will become a God hating atheist.
First, I was that child. For years I would have agreed with you. But that was before I knew God. His very character is good, nothing about him is evil. Just because you and I don’t understand why certain things happen, doesn’t change Gods character.
@@Jesusmyhopeofglory I understand that God has and continues to ignore the cries of innocent children all around the world, and that's all I need to understand to know that God's character is filth. I am sorry to what happened to you as a child, and I'm sorry we live under a God who didn't have the character to protect you from it.
God's in the business of saving souls, Not preventing atrocities and calamities.
Great point John! If this is just how it is because there is no God, then you really can't say the world is messed up.
Any being who could effortlessly choose to prevent suffering at no cost to themselves but chooses not to, is evil.
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That answer still makes no sense. If God gave us Free Will, Created Humans, and Knows the Future then he is 100% to blame. You can’t set up the conditions for evil to exist and then get upset when evil happens even though you knew it would. If God never wanted children to have cancer he could have created a world where only conscious adults can freely decide to do evil things and then punish them accordingly.
Of course he is to blame and he accepts that. Free will is what allows us to differ right from wrong. Meaning that everything that he's done and continues to do is calculated. It's the same idea as Ying and yang. You cannot have good without evil, light without the dark, it's balance. We see death as a bad thing and fear it. But you don't see the good that comes from ones death until long afterwards. Not saying family and friends dying is a good thing. I'm saying when they do you usually talk with people you haven't seen in ages, you laugh and remember all the food times you had with that person and all the good things they did for you. Blaming God doesn't help. Also how can you blame something you don't believe in?
I dont think God is to blame i think man is to blame, i see all BLM protest but black people claims would have more validation if black people had more respect for each other.
People in general mistreat other people very badly but they think they deserve to have good health.
Its sad when the children who have done nothing get illnesses but unfortunately humans as a collective would have less cancer if we treated each other better collectively.
Me personally im glad to be ill im old and i wont have to live in the racist dishonest corrupt society.
Poor people who have no power to defend themselves against racist corrupt officials pray and God answers their prayers.
No one people have cornered the market for sympathy so many situations are sad but society mocks one kids death and cry their eyes for another,
When will man stop blaming god for everything he has done and continue to do wrong.
Destroying nature to generate profits. Even if i get terminal cancer i thank God for the life that i had being controlled and mistreated by racists who want to make fear for my life for being black along with anything they can entrap me to do wrong without them feeling any shame or guilt of all the wrong they do.
I hope cancer patients will make a full recovery.
But i hope people would stop doing bad and expecting good.
@@zhstagr You can have good without evil and light without dark, since "god" created all of that, he can put up the rules he wants.
God isn't all-loving and all-forgiving since all the cruel things that happen in the world have been also created and perfectly avoided by him.
"100% to blame" makes it seem like God has this evil plan of wanting children to die from cancer.
Is it God's RESPONSIBILITY ? 100%, but "blame" is not the appropriate word.
1. You cant judge God's logic with human logic. This is a mistake a lot of atheists fall into (like i used to).
2. If you eliminate cancer from children, it means you should eliminate all diseases from children ... Which means all diseases from everyone ... Which means literally any sign of suffering... Which means lack of free will.
Could God do that ? Yes, but if he created us with free will, would it make sense to remove that along with every suffering ? I personally, don't think so (also it follows the laws of nature and physics btw, cancer is quite a simple disease in terms of biological reasons. So if you ever wanted to eliminate a disease as God, maybe you would go for that super complicated disease that almost no one gets)
@@WillySalamigod has a path for you and when people refer to god as all knowing, that means he knows that that plan he has lined up for you is best for you. That doesn’t mean you have to choose it but it is the best for you. You also cannot have good without evil because without the option for evil there is no virtue to be good. If you can’t be evil you cannot technically be good. Because you would not be choosing to be good you would have no other option. The reason people are “good” is because we live in a world where evil decisions are often easy and tempting. Hope that helps explain things a little more😃
So, bone cancer in kids are our own "bad decision"? Insane. I guess I'm sorry to all the kids that has bone cancer? Because it's also my bad decision?
It could be even without religion and only scientifically. Maybe not you specifically but genetic mutations might not happen "just because", its the environment, food, drinks, etc
You could choose to help them. Do research or donate money. But you choose to ignore them because they are "not your buissnes"!
@yuyah7413 if our sin affects the world around us as we see in scripture, then yes, we are to blame for the suffering in our world.
Beautifully done John. I pray this young man truly repents and comes to Jesus for salvation. 🙏❤
That was exactly what I was just about to type. 'Beautifully done." Very clear and consised. We pray regeneration over this young man. In Jesus' Name.
What does he need to repent for? Having his own opinion and mind?
@@paulduffy6259 Yep thats a sin. Blindly follow your empty book or be casted down into the realm of it doesn't exist. Hope they remembered that God once allowed men to openly murder other men.
So God punishes the world for being sinful by giving children who could possibly improve the world untreatable cancers? Why does God not give every man a fair chane in this world? I'm not trying to say this in a rude manner, but rather from a critical point of view and a willingness to change. I'm a firm believer of equality, and seeing my childhood best friend, who was Christian, die from an uncurable cancer goes against any logical form of equality. If God is good, why does he indiscriminently punish? Why does an innocent child of God have to pay for someone elses sin?
Bingo, it makes not sense that a deity that loves his creations would silence and destroy the very ones that would allow success. You have just discovered the second of six major flaws with Christianity that ..pretty much...call it.
One of the important doctrines in Christianity is that our God came and shared our sufferings too. He also took our sins and punished for us.
My Redeermer savior Jesus. My Lord and my God
Go tell that to all the innocent children who were brutally r&ped while God sat back and watched as they cried to him for help.
@@oswaldcobblepot502 Is rape wrong?
@@oswaldcobblepot502 think about rape is evil let people go have sex with same gender and some people with animals too and you just hold a board of justice for it and March for it but you are not ready to believe and process that you have no future reading power like god he does kill children yes but i have no answer I can't read god's heart what if the same God gave the same parents two more kids instead of that loss of loosing one child because of leukemia are tell them blatantly follow god
Rape is wrong as long as our beloved God says it's wrong.
@@oswaldcobblepot502God told the rapist that it is wrong. The state told the rapist that it is wrong. The parents were told to look for their child because it is wrong.
You however did nothing to prevent it. You sat by and watch because you do not care even one bit. Your "argument" is flawed because it happenes every day and you simply ignore it in favour of your very own bliss. Because is not "your buissnes". A teacher teaching the meaning of all-good can only try until the student learns the lesson. We have not even atempted to go to class as of yet.
If you support a god who brings suffering to the most vulnerable, then you support a god who is not loving and kind.
Why do you believe that child is worth more than the cell festering inside its bones?
If there truly is a God, and said God is also truly all-good, the life of a cell is no different that the life of a human because they are all equaly loved.
Now, whether or not God gave us sentience or we evolved it is irrelevant here because instead of turning us into mindless creatures he gave us the chance to study and to learn and understand his, for us, paradoxical perspective of kindness until we ourselfs are all-good. Until we understand to value life and existence.
Right now, we have not even started.
Their suffering shtick is all they have. Otherwise their brains will be caught on the thorny issue of theodicy. So they bore us rigid with claims of Jesus's suffering then claim it wasn't enough, so humans have to suffer as well.
Please come to South Africa cape Town. Eager to get involved in your ministry here.
Atheism requires more faith than any religion. Believing that the universe came from nothing and life came from non-life and consciousness came from the unconscious is a very robust faith. If God does not exist and there is no objective morality, our human standard of morality is stupid: Charity, fidelity, justice, generosity, kindness... are stupid in nature. Without God, there is no reason why we shouldn't kill each other and plunder each other because there is no objective morality of right and wrong, only perspectives.
The earth is 3.5 billon years old but you will ignore that and lie with your mental illness
I’m so glad that Guy can see through what you’re saying because you’re saying nothing. God gives good things bit doesn’t give bad? You didn’t give that guy an answer because you don’t have one
The guy went way off topic
The gods may throw a dice
Their minds as cold as ice
And someone way down here
Loses someone dear
- ABBA
The Ten Commandments are called the moral law. You and I broke the law, Jesus paid the fine. That’s what happened on that cross that day. But you must repent and believe in Christ. Trust Him like you would a parachute. It isn’t enough to know the parachute can save you, you have to put it on. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
When others pay the fine, no lesson is learned and they keep behaving badly. It's human nature
God is not just
I will complete your sentence.
"God is not just the creator of morality but also the creator of all deadly diseases including cancer and viral infections which causes bodies to deteriorate in the most pain inducing way including innocent children so that individuals can enter his abode in heaven"
Im must seem like a horrible bastard but im really surprised that people think they dont deserve pstd or cancer i think people collectively are extremely corrupt and toxic and cancerous .
Mental gymnastics 😂😂😂
Let me recap that for you:
Omniscient and all mighty God who knows everything and can do anything, creates a flawed man, being aware ahead of human flaws, accuses humans of those flaws so he then can destroy humans with flood and fire, but let Satan live.
Very nice story, but loses it's sense once a Catholic child reaches the age of reason.
Because he gave us free will and did not made us mindless robots. To teach a child how to behave in certain ways so that it wont end a species instead of getting rid of it after the first simple mistake is the most fundamental principle of growth and evolution.
So how can you judge a teacher when you have not yet leatned the lesson? How can you judge a paradoxical force like omnipotence, omnicient and omnibenelovence when you are a mortal mind? When you hail change zoday in the name of "good" only for it to be labled "evil" decades later?
Incorrect, if we were made in gods image and were given authority over all the earth. Then the responsibility is on US.
God does not give people cancer or any sickness,we inherited the weakness to illness from our original parents at the beginning of time,But God has made a way for us to get back to God through Jesus,
It's just as bad to sit back and do nothing to protect your own kids from evil like God does. "Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin." Why does that apply to us, but God exempts himself from his own law? Failure to prevent your children from being victimized (especially when you have all the ability to do so like God does) is a sin of omission and makes you an evil coward.
Oh and don't forget about what he did to Job. He sent the devil to go torture him and ruined his entire life over a bet. Is the picture of God's true character becoming any clearer to you yet?
@@PeterFour22 Thats a different situation altogether
@@AnneTaylor-kk8ze No it's not. It's the truth, you know it, and you're too scared to say it out loud yourself.
@@PeterFour22 sorry to disappoint you,I’m not too scared to say it i am 80 years young and have been studying the whole Bible since i was 17
If god were good, he would give the cancer to those who did evil. Kids haven't done evil, they can't. They learn and are kids. Why are they being punished for something their parents did? And if they did, how did the kids get the cancer? Did god give it to them for their parents sins? I don't understand how exactly those kids are punished and by whom/what?
Christian answer is that children are innocent, and if they die they will go to heaven. This world is not place where its guaranteed happiness. And punishment for evil people is hell.
@@mentatmentatia9212 That doesn't make sense. Why are they punished if they are innocent? That's like the story of Ouroboros.
Diseases enter just about anyone. The result of living in a sinful world. You've hurt me with your sins, I've hurt you with my sins. Your neighbor hurt you with their sins, just like mine
@@OnlyAnimals01 that doesn‘t explain why some children have to go through pain and suffering because of illness, and especially not why so many of gods children have been abused by those who swore to protect them, the priests. I truly believe the christian religion has done more harm than harm to this world than good. If your god is almighty, then he is responsible for everything. If he created this world, its his job to make sure we don’t get out of hand. Peter 3:9 says: „Do not repay evil with evil.“ So why does god exactly that? Why do the children get punished?
@@ChefGoreb definitely does explain it. Youve betrayed God with your sins, your friend betrayed God with his sins, i betrayed God with my sins. Result? Curse upon the ground. Diseases and suffering is the result. Sin entered through one man. Youve heard of adam and eve. And how was any of this Gods fault again? How was it any of Gods fault that YOU with the mind he gave you CHOSE to SIN against God? You think sin has no consequence? Had there not been a single sin in this world we would all be living with God in that garden in paradise forever, no death, no illness, no pain, no crying
God created the world and then cursed it? Nice.
God is not the one. Satan, or otherwise Lucifer, was the one who created these things to make us believe that God is horrible, to drive us away from him and into Hell.
Why would god let satan convince people he doesnt exist? Why the hell would god still send them to hell if it really were satans fault they were let astray?
@@ToastEr-f3bBecause of our modern sense of justice:
You can only teach a child to behave instead of turning it into a minfles automaton. If said child still wont behave you need to seek other ways to teach said child until it underdtands the meaning of all-good itself!
@@RealCodreX This has literally nothing to dom with what i said or the logical inconsistency with what he said
@ToastEr-f3b No, we convinced ourselves satan doesn't exist. the Bible mentions opposing forces to god, but people skim right over that.
@@rightousnesspursuer6523 Christianity is just another belief. i cannot control what i believe. nobody can control what thy believe since its all based on if they are convinced. Thats why i dont believe god. i simply havnt seen convincing evidence
So...OK...it says in the first three chapters ... there is disease and suffering because the child he created in his own image "unexpectedly" disobeyed him (go figure that mistake mad by a supposedly all knowing being), so he cast him out of paradise onto the street and cursed all his offspring. What would god think if we did that to our own children on their first offense. Great example. Seems like he wants us to be better than he was
With all the poisons we put into our bodies, Alcohol, Tobacco, Drugs , soft drinks , etc , our lifestyles alone the stress the way we abuse our bodies over the generations our bodies begin to degenerate and become more sceptical to diseases and disfigurements ,
most damage is from 💉
Yeah all those kids with their cancer from drugs and all the stress. Toddlers should really maintain a better work-life-health balance to avoid getting that leukemia.
That makes no sense - whatsoever.
If u don’t live in the US, soft drinks are actually not that bad, here in Italy the most common soft drink is made from Italian Oranges and only added water and sugar. No chemicals, no preservatives, no nothing. Just pure nature. Most of the local stuff is like that, most US drinks are not even allowed to enter the EU without having to change the formula completely (esp. not using corn sirup or BVO)
So the parents didn't pray then god punished them by giving there child a sickness because it's all our fault
Amen!🙏🙌🛐🙌🙏
Oh so adam eats an apple so kids get cancer. Thats fair 😂
Yes its completely fair. You understand it, the crap brained skeptics dont
@@sivalovesyoutube9373 what?
The same way I didn’t buy a 2€ ticket and have to pay 200€ fine 😂 it’s always like that
Where is it stated to be an apple?
My answer to this question would be to look to the shroud of turin. Do some heavy research on the shroud, and i mean heavy research. Go past the wikipedia article please. And then go listen to some experiences of people with NDEs, see how they shed tears saying they were headed for hell and saved by the grace of Christ.
I am not God. I am not more intelligent than God. I am not wiser than God. Instead, I am God's child - if God gave me cancer in 2 years from now, I can't say I'd grieve. I would fear for my salvation and spend my last days becoming intimate with Christ Jesus, I would repent for my sin, mourn the sin I've commited, the time I've lived without God, and would be hopeful to make people's lives better in my last days.
God is real. Why would kids get cancer? Why would the holocaust happen? There's a simple answer: I don't know, at all, what goes on in the mind of God. I know I want to present a soul without stains, with good works, and with the salvation of His only begotten son when I meet him, to sup at His table and not with Satan.
The people I've known who've suffered this tragedy in their own lives have come intimately close with Christ. Christians grow through tragedy. We don't ask questions we cannot fathom the answers to. We embrace our savior and let Him guide our lives in this one so that we may live eternally in the next.
Lets say if God gives you cancer when you are 1-2 years old. Would you still repent for salvation? Do you even know who god is at that time?
This still is a bad argument. Its not "beyond our understanding." its simply an illogical god.
If god wants us to be happy and hes all powerful then that would mean that ANY suffering that isnt caused by humans SHOULDNT exist. Even ANIMAL suffering shouldnt exist. Literally everything that we describe as being terrible and sufferage is also what animals constantly feel.
So basically god created a world where not only humans would needlessly suffer but also animals? Yeah no that god is a dick
Guidelines 😂 so god is either. It all powerful or not all good ?
You never answered his question. You responded to his question with another question. That is NOT answering the question. And that pat 'answer' of yours that God is going to make everything alright (straight out of the 'jam tomorrow' political playbook) is not going to cut any ice with people who have left your incompetent, impotent God behind.
Look up the “toolbox murders”, one of the little girls asked to pray but the men didn’t let her. Or look up any of the myriad various serial killers who tortured little kids before they killed them. All I want to know is why is this reality the one we all had to suffer in. God could have created any reality He chose. But this reality where people can torture children beyond comprehension?! Why?! Is their torment nothing to Him just because in the end MAYBE they will be saved? What about those that are so mentally destroyed by such torment? Does God account for what He allowed to be inflicted upon them and their minds when He judges their actions?
What about those who are killed by murderers but the murderer is saved later on in some jail cell? Did God give the same grace for those that were killed by the murderer or might those killed be burning and writhing in some eternal hellfire for all eternity even as the person that cut their life short is saved?
Why do you believe that child is worth more than the cell festering inside its bones?
If there truly is a God, and said God is also truly all-good, the life of a cell is no different that the life of a human because they are all equaly loved.
Now, whether or not God gave us sentience or we evolved it is irrelevant here because instead of turning us into mindless creatures he gave us the chance to study and to learn and understand his, for us, paradoxical perspective of kindness until we ourselfs are all-good. Until we understand to value life and existence.
Right now, we have not even started.
There’s a better explanation for the question this boy asked and the man didnt do a good job answering. Pray to God and ask him for a good church and for a deep understanding of his word. That’s it everything else is on you.
Good job not providing a better answer
The answer, as far as I can tell, is something in the book of Job. Job is an adult, not a child, but the needless suffering and pondering on the goodness of God is found in this writing.
GOD is responsible for the FACT of freedom, and humans are responsible for their acts of freedom!!!!! And when Adam and Eve's used their freedom to disobey, the whole of creation was cursed, including themselves! This cursed incurred death, disease, calamity, pain ,sadness, and misery! But GOD has redeemed it and will continue to redeem it until the complete restoration of the world when HE returns to restore HIS Kingdom!
God has the freedom to save innocent children from being abducted and r&ped. But he'd rather sit back, do nothing, and listen to them beg him for help.
@PeterFour22 God can't lie, change or learn and HE also can't violate humanities freewill! If HE did, there wouldn't be true love in the world. Without the possibility of true evil there wouldn't be the possibility of true love. We get the choice. We can either choose to love others or hate them and hurt them. We humanity get that choice and unfortunately we choose wrongly often.
@@MegaAce54 How is it a violation of human free will to protect a child from being molested?? You are making pathetic excuses for your God's deplorable character.
Never answered the question only used fear tactics
God doesn't punish...God is unlimited, perfect love.
Oh yea I have last stage cancer n was an epilepsy patient ever since I was a child I have been sick for the most of my life and now I'm going to die in the most horrific and painful way..
But hey instead jus letting me die God is going to put me in hell for eternity n I will burn for eternity for loving him .. for all the blessings he can given me which are basically none
And another thing the logic is fked up some people get to live like 80 years so they can sin for most of their life n then repent
But I'm going to die at the age 22 so I will burn in hell for infinity jus 12 years of finite life
What a wonderful gift
the world will not be fixed by god. evil will never disappear because evil does not exist without good. so for both to exist it needs to continue, and the fact he's saying god is waiting for people to repent...and follow faith... uh did u not hear me, there will be some repent and some not because if everyone repented... then evil does not exist and that makes good lose meaning...
The true home of Christians is Heaven-- A world without suffering
He didn't answer the question.. A 4 year old child is innocent.. Why did he give a child cancer make it suffer in pain for 2 years and kill it at 6 years old. Its a very simple question
The thing is, and satanists know this, God didn’t give the cancer… He let Satan attack them with cancer.
Which is… probably even worse knowing that God let Satan give someone innocent like children and like Job diseases.
The "why" no one can answer except God because you cant use human logic on God's logic, by definition.
However, you can have ideas: maybe heaven is worth suffering for 2 years, maybe cancer is a natural consequences of biological and physical laws associated also with free will (polution, food, etc), maybe that child's suffering impacted everyone around them in a positive manner.
The list is endless, but to say that "God wouldn't do that, cancer is horrible" is in my opinion ignoring the infinite possibilities, and trying to understand God with faulty human logic, you just can't.
So in summary: i don't know why, nobody can know why, you can just speculate and look at it as positive as you can and wish that child and the doctors the best
@@newme1589 This still is a bad argument. Its not "beyond our understanding." its simply an illogical god.
If god wants to be happy and hes all powerful then that would mean that ANY suffering that isnt caused by humans SHOULDNT exist. Even ANIMAL suffering shouldnt exist. Literally everything that we describe as being terrible and sufferage is also what animals constantly feel.
So basically god created a world where not only humans would needlessly suffer but also animals? Yeah no that god is a dick
@@newme1589 Imagine a dude, who created the entire fucking universe looking at our species and going "Well, I guess I'll just let that one play out!" while he goes off to fuck with his aliens in galaxy 39-c. Fucking ridiculous.
@@HeadshotDisorderimagine a big green and blue sphere revolving around the sun in galaxy 58-a where there’s 8 billion aliens who all speak 7100 different languages and build flying metal cans to travel across the revolving super dome who’s makeup is 71% water. Ridiculous am I right? Twisting words doesn’t make reality invalid.
Thanks. Short, but the essence in a good way explained. 🪷