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Malcolm wasn't a good bloke at all but where would Steve have ended up without him? Im sure that without Malcolm that he wouldn't be living this cool life as a DJ in LA.
@@garrylogan4554 Malcolm was a very complicated man indeed. He did a lot of things that I would consider “sneaky” and mean, but he also was a genius in his own way. A very multi faceted person at the very least.
Hi there again ! -..I think McClaren has been given a rather hard time over the years- with all the ex- pistols eventually turning to John's side in the '80s court case , & even the 'Filth & the Fury' had some digs , & the 1 image of Malcolm on the 'kiss This' comp in drag was a bit snide . I felt Steve & Paul kind of went with towing 'the Lydon line' really to avoid conflict ,but Steve's book is fair to Malcolm ( & Viv) & states how much they helped him - & without Malcolm & the shop ,Jordan, Dave Goodman, Jamie Reid etc.....it just wouldn't have happened.....& also i felt there was a real sense of performance listening to Malcolm ,he could be very witty , where Lydon could often be ...
@@andchat6241 he did completely fuck the Pistols though didn't he.made Steve and Paul look like fucking idiots in the end.good that Jonsey and cookie are gentle souls really..cos if Sid had of Survived he and Lydon would of cleaned Malcolm out.
@@Wicked_R regarding 'he made ' Steve or Paul 'look stupid' , I dont think so - the band had split & Cook n Jones stuck with McClaren who had put them together with Matlock ,gave them a band name , encouraged Steve to move from vocals to Guitar ,pushed for Lydon to be singer, set up living quarters & rehearsal space in Denmark st , while they dressed in clothes from the shop. After the split Lydon took McClaren & co to court .Jones & Cook were part of McClarens backing, but knowing any judgement would be tainted by the supposedly 'true ' Rock n Roll Swindle' story they were advised to change to Lydons side .After over 6 years McClaren was found negligent in their management, rather than dishonest , in that he had as little idea of where money was being spent as anyone else, & the group had signed a basic contract with McClaren without legal advice . McClaren being the eldest was held responsible for this. Usually if a 'shop owner' found himself as manager of a young band that became successful the contract would have been taken over by a more experienced team with a road manager , but their rapid rise /signing /sacking/change of bassist/signing/sacking/signing ....split made a mess of any 'continuity..?
Although they had a very complicated relationship, I think Steve was always grateful to Malcolm for giving him his break. I’m not sure Malcolm knew what to do with Steve’s gratitude. I really enjoyed reading Steve Jones’ book Lonely Boy.
McClaren is very entertaining and charming! Also, a brilliant marketer and good talker. Very smart and clever guy. It’s funny how he laughs when Steve asks him where’s the money? What a provacateur.
No matter what about the (lost)? Money, Malcolm tell,s great stories and l could listen to him all day. And without Malcolm ,The Pistols would never have happened. So they do owe him a lot of gratitude.
McClaren was fun to listen to but if you want to know what he was doing, just note the following when he mentions in the interview having run for London Mayor (in 2000) and he says he got 2 million votes (by a strange sort of calculation, 9% of 20 million Londoners): 1. Total turnout was 34%. 2. The number of votes cast in both rounds was 1.3 million, making the total population eligible roughly 4.9 million. 3. Malcolm withdrew before the election, thereby receiving 0 votes. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good life story!
John Lydon surely got a lot of people to hate this guy for no really good reason. why? Malcolm helped John Lydon to get where is is/ went. Because a lot of it was Malcolm McLaren's ideas. Big mouths and hyper social chatty personality types need other people to steer them, especially when they are young like John Lydon at the time. Vivienne Westwood...Also owes everything to him with her fashion empire now. She knew NOTHING, or very little except to make alterations and sew a few things when she met him. Everything she learned from him. IT WAS ALL HIS IDEAS. He went to art school. Some of the ideas of punk, especially the antagonist or social/ political forms of UK Punk is rooted in Situational-ism a 1960's confrontational philosophy/ politics, art movement...which Malcolm knew about. Jones and cook knew this and accepted it and him for all his sneaky and scammy ways.
Riveting. Several things can be true at the same time: MM is incredibly charming and unprincipled. Jonesy knows MM ripped him off but remains grateful for the opportunity (he knows he's still far ahead of where he'd be without MM), and the Pistols would have still been a band wirhout MM, but nowhere near the band they became.
I don't think McLaren advised or forced him to be a heroin addict, and that is pretty much how he wrecked his post-Pistols career. Sure the world and the industry weren't very fair about recognizing Jones as one of the major musical talents behind the Pistols--the other being Matlock, but he was very self-destructive.
@@michaelstephen819 Her father, Don Arden was a ruthless nightmare of a man who screwed everyone he managed over - she even admits that in an interview with Jonsey. McLaren, Arden & Brian Epstein were all Jews by the way.....just saying.
@Spencer Proctor ....is there not a grain of truth in most generalisations? Take the Russian oligarchs who stripped the country of its wealth in the 1990's when all the state assets were privatised with many leaving the country - how many of those oligarchs were NOT members of god's chosen people? Clue: almost none.
He's still alive? That would be great but I think the "Bro code" would prevent him from telling his best tales. Just imagine the stories. Get him and Marianne Faithful on together and watch the fireworks!
I listened to this interview a while ago but now in the meantime I have read Steve's book. This is so much more interesting now and especially since Malcolm has passed the information is really more interesting and important.
rj zander mclaren had all their trousers down ( ripped them off) Lydon took mclaren to court and won, don’t think any of the others got anything back though.
A particular talent of psychopaths. Politicians do it. They punch your face then say they will drive you to the hospital, then leave you bleeding to death believing that you are in a hospital bed surrounded by medical staff.
Many moons ago I met Malcolm @ a Virgin Records in-store event - He was promoting the "Paris" album at the time (which is quite good) - Looking a bit sullen over the small turn out, he was nevertheless charming and very cool to chat with. Check out his BBC Radio docs (on London and his childhood) for more good story telling. ....
i always thought it was strange how much animosity Lydon had towards Malcolm, i always thought they seemed really similar in a lot of ways they even looked like they could have ben related.
It’s not too hard to hate him. After the Sex pistols everything he did, to cut a long story short, failed. No taste, despite pretending otherwise throughout his life. The only bit that DID succeed (Pistols) succeeded only though luck. Several levels of blag, and bullshit, there’s so much provably nonsense things said in this interview. “These Mongolians, they’ve got the beat”. What? He’ was one morally dubious bullshitter too.
Badfinger had it worse. They lost all their money AND were on the hook to the record company. Poor Pete Ham hung himself over it. Polley should rot in hell.
My God Mr. Jones here you are with the best interviews with musicians I love it cause it's about music fashion story telling and other things that the guest wants us to know he's easy going and funny which disarms the guest and we get mote.subsqribe folks.
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Technically you are correct. I would just note that in Steve's mind he was referring to the Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons version as you can hear him start to say "The Four Seasons". You win win this time Batman!
@@chuckberry8852 Lou Christie (real name: Luigi Sacco) was often mistaken for Frankie Valli -- another Italian-American singer from the early 1960's with an incredibly loud and powerful falsetto voice.
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Interesting. As far as I remember Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons did cover that tune. I remember a TV commercial for their greatest hits featuring a sound bite from that song amongst others. I guess it was a natural fit for Frankie's voice.
I was already $100,000 in and I did not want to pay any more, Jonesy you should have used the money you took from us, boom boom you got him well said, timed it perfectly.
I've seen so many Malcolm McLaren interviews and he always came off as serious and blunt. Now all this laughing may be an act, but at the same time---this rare carefree and good-natured side might be only seen when the camera lights are off---but brought out here because he's being interviewed by Steve Jones.
You can see he was totally at ease - enjoying himself - and Steve totally encouraged him to run free with tales in a lighthearted manner . They constantly flirted and giggled over the idea that Malcolm was indulging in artistic license. I think this interview was absolutely unique.
How interesting those days were. Can't imagine anything being as interesting on the king's road today. When did we become so boring? How do you get that back.
Although Malcolm McLaren has " Continued To Divide Opinion " Over the years I think that his " Significance And Intelligence " Are Indisputable regardless of anything else !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
2021.Timeless songs and the history.Steve,Paul,Glen,Johns,Malcolm,Viv, as a Yankee from Boston usa,was nice folks even though it was a bit hairy,lol.Wish I could been a roadie,but I was 12 and to get back to the states.😀❤
They were told they couldn’t play and John couldn’t sing, how wrong they were. It’s still sounds fresh today and the quality is un questionable. One album and still being talked about in high regard. Simple but fantastic. Stay Free all
Malcolm and Tony Wilson I always thought got the short end of the stick for their brilliance and guts. Would the Pistols have happened without McLaren? Certainly not to the extent we know them now I'm sure. But to slag him off as this useless money grubber that messed everything up I never bought for a minute. Yeah, maybe he manipulated Glen out of the band. But he saw the brilliance in Sid to replace him. And yeah, he may have contributed to Sid's downfall - but he tried to keep Nancy away as much as everyone else. So Sid was doomed soon as he met her and got on the junk, and really Malcolm GLORIFIED him to the infamy he has to this day. The Great Rock N' Roll Swindle is really Sid's movie. And Sid looks and sounds fabulous in it! So yeah, it may have pissed a lot of money away, made Malcolm look like the bad guy. And Ronnie Bigg's taking the piss on everything. But most remember Sid in it, and rightfully so. So if that was just to make money from after Sid checked out, which he was going to anyways - gotta credit Malcolm for doing that. He could just as easily told Sid to piss off and bring Glen back or somebody else. And Sid would've died with Nancy in Essex or Akron unnoticed.
While the end of Sids life was a tradgedy, Steve Jones was an illiterate criminal whose life was greatly improved by knowing McClaren..& Lydons line that 'Malcolm put nothing into the Pistols is clearly incorrect' he had the name already, put 'the Band' together ,got them somewhere to practice & possibly of most importance together with Vivian designed great clothes so they looked 'like stars' from the start.. With some great lyrics from Lydon & some good cover versions they were 'up & running'..
Weird how McLaren never got done for putting a naked 14yo girl in film/inside cover of the Swindle record making her look like be Sue Catwoman, then that Bow Wow Wow stuff.
James Ballard ..I guess the Pistols got a chunk of Beatles via Glen Matlock ( or as McClaren rather unfairly calls him 'the Saturday boy') ..in his Book 'Lonely Boy' Jones says how much Matlock (musically) taught them....Jones also states his main 'musical hero' was Rod Stewart...
Spoiled again by low sound. Fine if you can put it through a decent system or even, laptop but crap if you listen on the phone. I have perfectly good hearing too. Please just boost the sound a bit!
@@sexobscura , well cook & jones (+ Wally Nightingale) were ' a band' in the way many of have been & as a' natural progression ' from Steve's Ability to steal instruments (& many other things),Inc' Bowies pro microphones from 'Ziggys farewell gigs' at Hammersmith Odeon ...but in '75 McClaren had the name (printed on his Love/Hate shirts sold in his & Vivs shop) 'Kutie Jones & his Sex Pistols' .they played 1 gig with steve on vocals...He wasn't comfortable on vox so they looked for another vocalist...the songs in some style 'written before' john joining were 'Did you know wrong' & 'Pretty vacant' ...as earlier live recordings show e.g. I have an lp from Manchester June 76 they've added 'problems & 17' to the set (still includes Substitute, gimme no lip, what you gonna do? & no fun....)
It must have been hard for everybody when Steve Jones & Paul Cook 'switched sides' & backed Lydon in his legal case against McClaren - that took 8 years before a 'Financial Conclusion' was reached...
@Nobby Heads There were many cunts on the management and production side of the music business with almost every band you can think of. But everyone ended up rich af in the end!
Malcolm ran for major although he was a) overestimating London's population so immensely (10% of eligible London votes are maximum 700,000 - and even those only if everyone did actually vote which they actually didn't) and b) in fact he only got 6% instead of 10%, so that was manipulated as well. he turned a mere 200,000 into 2 million votes without even blushing. he probably was the biggest svengali that ever lived
the film mentioned 'Fast Food Nation' was made & released in 2006, & was directed by Richard Linklater..but no mention of Malcolm or 'producer J.Thomas'( the last emperor, Eureka etc) in its credits..
IMDB says he was a producer on it Produced by Ann Carli ... co-producer Victor Ho ... line producer Sara Johnson ... associate producer (as Sara Greene) Malcolm McLaren ... producer
@@jeremyratter3634 well spotted... Although 'producer' has changed in meaning much over the years ....it used to mean the person who 'Okay'd' the project or put the money up front & there were usually just a couple of 'producers' named. You often now see over 30 'producers' listed with prefixs including 'head'..'executive' 'secondary' ,'overseas', 'line'..'Deputy'..'Assistant'... Was Jeremy Thomas named anywhere?
Malcolm relived the infamous story that changed popular culture. Hard to believe it all. Jonesy literally relived the story as though he heard it the first time.
Steve Jones asking Malcolm McLaren "Have you ever taken a lie-detector test?" might be the greatest question ever asked in the history of interviews.
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This is a fantastic interview. It's great to hear them being so warm with each other. Say what you want about McLaren, he was utterly fascinating.
He imported the CBGB punk movement to the UK and made it a bigger hit than it ever was in its native NY city.
Totally different@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
They were close friends even before Malcolm formed the Pistols.
Steve is natural interviewer . First question to his ex manager ‘where’s the money?’ Said with a smile but deadly serious.
And yeah Malcom’s almost Nervous Laughter .
I wonder if he was worried Steeve would start talking about his sleazy ways. LOL ;)
"don't fuck with me"
If he could of took him outside he would of to get his owed dough
How interesting to listen to, love hearing Malcolm's stories
Malcom - a fascinating character! I am watching Pistol and revisiting all the docs and interviews and feeling inspired again. Bunch of legends!
Malcolm wasn't a good bloke at all but where would Steve have ended up without him? Im sure that without Malcolm that he wouldn't be living this cool life as a DJ in LA.
@@garrylogan4554 Malcolm was a very complicated man indeed. He did a lot of things that I would consider “sneaky” and mean, but he also was a genius in his own way. A very multi faceted person at the very least.
Blah blah blah...
Same. Loved Pistol. I'm obsessed at this point. Like yourself, I'm watching everything I can find. It's all gold.
@@NoResultsReturned Snap. Since watching it I've gone down a Rabbit hole trying to find anything I can!
Slippery as a snake was old talcy Malcy but his contribution to British music and culture should never be underestimated, a clever clever guy.
Hi there again ! -..I think McClaren has been given a rather hard time over the years- with all the ex- pistols eventually turning to John's side in the '80s court case , & even the 'Filth & the Fury' had some digs , & the 1 image of Malcolm on the 'kiss This' comp in drag was a bit snide . I felt Steve & Paul kind of went with towing 'the Lydon line' really to avoid conflict ,but Steve's book is fair to Malcolm ( & Viv) & states how much they helped him - & without Malcolm & the shop ,Jordan, Dave Goodman, Jamie Reid etc.....it just wouldn't have happened.....& also i felt there was a real sense of performance listening to Malcolm ,he could be very witty , where Lydon could often be ...
@@andchat6241 he did completely fuck the Pistols though didn't he.made Steve and Paul look like fucking idiots in the end.good that Jonsey and cookie are gentle souls really..cos if Sid had of Survived he and Lydon would of cleaned Malcolm out.
@@Wicked_R regarding 'he made ' Steve or Paul 'look stupid' , I dont think so - the band had split & Cook n Jones stuck with McClaren who had put them together with Matlock ,gave them a band name , encouraged Steve to move from vocals to Guitar ,pushed for Lydon to be singer, set up living quarters & rehearsal space in Denmark st , while they dressed in clothes from the shop.
After the split Lydon took McClaren & co to court .Jones & Cook were part of McClarens backing, but knowing any judgement would be tainted by the supposedly 'true ' Rock n Roll Swindle' story they were advised to change to Lydons side .After over 6 years McClaren was found negligent in their management, rather than dishonest , in that he had as little idea of where money was being spent as anyone else, & the group had signed a basic contract with McClaren without legal advice . McClaren being the eldest was held responsible for this.
Usually if a 'shop owner' found himself as manager of a young band that became successful the contract would have been taken over by a more experienced team with a road manager , but their rapid rise /signing /sacking/change of bassist/signing/sacking/signing ....split made a mess of any 'continuity..?
Although they had a very complicated relationship, I think Steve was always grateful to Malcolm for giving him his break. I’m not sure Malcolm knew what to do with Steve’s gratitude. I really enjoyed reading Steve Jones’ book Lonely Boy.
Spot on. Just finished the book myself - exceptional.
Malcolm actually put the Sex Pistols together just to get Steve off the streets as he was a shocking thief at the time.
You watched the new series? Tis worth a watch homie
Fabulous interview.. Malcolm really is a fantastic story teller, really nice vibe between the two of them. Excellent.
Malcolm was a great English flâneur, so creative and charming. He made the world a more fun place to be. Left us way too soon.
Man, I could listen this for hours. I love talk about music.
'where's the Money?' ' The Swindle continues...'.
'he never trusted anybody - let alone a bank'
@rj zander killed bambi ...
@@sexobscura he was a ''human bank'' per se.
@@sexobscura Russ Meyer shot Bambi…….look it up!
@@sexobscura Really?! It'd be too risqué , even for a Situationist, i guess.
McClaren is very entertaining and charming! Also, a brilliant marketer and good talker. Very smart and clever guy. It’s funny how he laughs when Steve asks him where’s the money? What a provacateur.
@@LarzGustafsson we're all crooks.
No matter what about the (lost)? Money, Malcolm tell,s great stories and l could listen to him all day. And without Malcolm ,The Pistols would never have happened. So they do owe him a lot of gratitude.
Jonesy just seems to bring out the best in everyone.🤔
toó much . bloody incredible man anf life
Malcom may have ripped off a lot of people over the years but he's gotta be one of the best raconteurs.
Bollox! he was a talentless parasite
He's both
@@grahamgiles6581 You know nothing.
The 5th pistol👍
McClaren was fun to listen to but if you want to know what he was doing, just note the following when he mentions in the interview having run for London Mayor (in 2000) and he says he got 2 million votes (by a strange sort of calculation, 9% of 20 million Londoners): 1. Total turnout was 34%. 2. The number of votes cast in both rounds was 1.3 million, making the total population eligible roughly 4.9 million. 3. Malcolm withdrew before the election, thereby receiving 0 votes. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good life story!
McLaren has such specific and clear memories of it all. I guess he was not high on drugs or drunk most of the time.
The most crazy manager ever
Quite a few lines lifted from this interview that ended up in ‘Pistol’. Great to listen to this again.
Love this!
Great interview.
Amusing that THIS interview is used verbatim as the plot and script for a lot of the 'Pistol' series on FX.
What a great human mind this Jones guy has!
Great stuff, Steve is the ideal interviewer for MM, he can't bullshit Steve
One of my favourite McClaren quotes is "England is the home of the flasher"
London has a population of just above 20 million Malcolm said...This interview makes me understand how crazy he was. Solid personality. RIP.
Yeah i was thinking 'isn't it more like 8 million Malcom?'
It feels like it sometimes
14 million if you include Greater London
I was told that 20 million people are in London every day, a lot of them passing through.
John Lydon surely got a lot of people to hate this guy for no really good reason.
why?
Malcolm helped John Lydon to get where is is/ went. Because a lot of it was Malcolm McLaren's ideas.
Big mouths and hyper social chatty personality types need other people to steer them, especially when they are young like John Lydon at the time.
Vivienne Westwood...Also owes everything to him with her fashion empire now.
She knew NOTHING, or very little except to make alterations and sew a few things when she met him. Everything she learned from him.
IT WAS ALL HIS IDEAS.
He went to art school.
Some of the ideas of punk, especially the antagonist or social/ political forms of UK Punk is rooted in Situational-ism a 1960's confrontational philosophy/ politics, art movement...which Malcolm knew about.
Jones and cook knew this and accepted it and him for all his sneaky and scammy ways.
Riveting. Several things can be true at the same time: MM is incredibly charming and unprincipled. Jonesy knows MM ripped him off but remains grateful for the opportunity (he knows he's still far ahead of where he'd be without MM), and the Pistols would have still been a band wirhout MM, but nowhere near the band they became.
I don't think McLaren advised or forced him to be a heroin addict, and that is pretty much how he wrecked his post-Pistols career. Sure the world and the industry weren't very fair about recognizing Jones as one of the major musical talents behind the Pistols--the other being Matlock, but he was very self-destructive.
McLaren is always entertaining, but you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw him.
+Shack his winning 2 million votes in an Mayoral election he pulled out of is one of many in this interview alone !
Same for any manager in this business - Sharon Osbourne, anyone?
@@michaelstephen819 Her father, Don Arden was a ruthless nightmare of a man who screwed everyone he managed over - she even admits that in an interview with Jonsey. McLaren, Arden & Brian Epstein were all Jews by the way.....just saying.
@@revol148 Yes, that's where she gets it from. Wendy Dio seems to be joining the same club. Hologram in your husband's memory?
@Spencer Proctor ....is there not a grain of truth in most generalisations? Take the Russian oligarchs who stripped the country of its wealth in the 1990's when all the state assets were privatised with many leaving the country - how many of those oligarchs were NOT members of god's chosen people? Clue: almost none.
Its Just Great that these 2 old mates Still got on so well, after all the court cases, ect......xxxxx
What a character. He was like something out of dickens.
Steve Jones listening to Sex Pistols stories like a fan.
One of the best interviews Jones did. This one, Chrissie Hynde, and Seymore Stein. Class!
Jonesy needs to get Andrew Loog Oldham on the show
Yes. That would be great.
Or Prince Andrew.
He's still alive? That would be great but I think the "Bro code" would prevent him from telling his best tales. Just imagine the stories. Get him and Marianne Faithful on together and watch the fireworks!
I love that “where’s the money ?”
Proper bloke Steve is.
I listened to this interview a while ago but now in the meantime I have read Steve's book. This is so much more interesting now and especially since Malcolm has passed the information is really more interesting and important.
"Where's the money" lol..... priceless cockney banter😅
he's hard work, can see why so many people disliked him. Absolutely no room is big enough for him and john lydon at the same time
You must be quite dense if you don`t find this extremely interesting and amusing.
The moment McClaren says the word "Mongols", Jones starts laughing. I'm crying :))
I was the same 🤣
Delightfully non-PC moment
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story 👌
‘ where’s the money?..’ both laughing sez it all 😂
There was a rumour.
cash for chaos
rj zander mclaren had all their trousers down ( ripped them off) Lydon took mclaren to court and won, don’t think any of the others got anything back though.
no they conspired to fool the public that there was a 'conspiracy'
"The swindle continues" ha
Amazing how some people can rip you off and you still like them,some talent that.
It takes one to know one
@@gostrum1 Eh
A particular talent of psychopaths. Politicians do it. They punch your face then say they will drive you to the hospital, then leave you bleeding to death believing that you are in a hospital bed surrounded by medical staff.
Many moons ago I met Malcolm @ a Virgin Records in-store event - He was promoting the "Paris" album at the time (which is quite good) - Looking a bit sullen over the small turn out, he was nevertheless charming and very cool to chat with. Check out his BBC Radio docs (on London and his childhood) for more good story telling. ....
We don't want the swindle to end Malcolm. Carry on.
He's dead.
i always thought it was strange how much animosity Lydon had towards Malcolm, i always thought they seemed really similar in a lot of ways they even looked like they could have ben related.
What a storyteller
Malcolm could tell a story really well! Great stuff...!
It's hard to hate Malcolm because he's very honest in his shityness.
He's Fagan come to life my dears.
It’s not too hard to hate him. After the Sex pistols everything he did, to cut a long story short, failed. No taste, despite pretending otherwise throughout his life. The only bit that DID succeed (Pistols) succeeded only though luck. Several levels of blag, and bullshit, there’s so much provably nonsense things said in this interview. “These Mongolians, they’ve got the beat”. What? He’ was one morally dubious bullshitter too.
@@comicblueswithjonygitar36 You're someone who understands him. Thank goodness for that.
just like Ted Bundy
Yin over Yang how do you know he's not telling the truth on the Mongolian
This is like Badfinger interviewing THEIR manager
Badfinger had it worse. They lost all their money AND were on the hook to the record company. Poor Pete Ham hung himself over it. Polley should rot in hell.
I'm hearing "Boys' Chorus" at the start with Malcolm's laughter. Novelty song? Maybe but pretty great too.
Old but gold.
I had to laugh, Malcolm impersonating Derbyshire born Vivienne "yer got the wrong John"
My God Mr. Jones here you are with the best interviews with musicians I love it cause it's about music fashion story telling and other things that the guest wants us to know he's easy going and funny which disarms the guest and we get mote.subsqribe folks.
Steve to Malcalm have you ever taken a lie detector test?Bwhahahahaha!
I enjoyed that interview, great to hear Malcolm and his well told entertaining stories.
u forgot to say made-up
Malcolm was a wonderful interesting character. And made his mark on the scene. I'll still never forgive him for fucking up The Dolls.
RIP Malcolm
Malcom didn't fuck up the Dolls, heroin did.
Dolls screwed themself up.
Yep, 💉 definitely the Smack.🤤
"How can I repay you?"
😆😂
Je reminds me of C3POs actor.
"Lightening Strikes" the first song Steve and Malcolm were trying name the artist on wasn't Lou Chrisitie, it was Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons.
No, it really was Lou Christie who originally recorded "Lightning Strikes" in 1965.
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Technically you are correct. I would just note that in Steve's mind he was referring to the Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons version as you can hear him start to say "The Four Seasons". You win win this time Batman!
@@chuckberry8852 Lou Christie (real name: Luigi Sacco) was often mistaken for Frankie Valli -- another Italian-American singer from the early 1960's with an incredibly loud and powerful falsetto voice.
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Interesting. As far as I remember Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons did cover that tune. I remember a TV commercial for their greatest hits featuring a sound bite from that song amongst others. I guess it was a natural fit for Frankie's voice.
Fantastic. Great story teller indeed. I always wondered the background story.
Again, thanks for putting these up, real treat. Now, where's that Bollocks box set...
I was already $100,000 in and I did not want to pay any more, Jonesy you should have used the money you took from us, boom boom you got him well said, timed it perfectly.
Fascinating great English Eccentric,super brght mind and always interesting character.
2005 ? Jones needs to be on everyday
We used to use our old amigas live on stage back in the early 90s
The cheesy old rave stuff we used to pump out. ....aahh the good old bad old days
I've seen so many Malcolm McLaren interviews and he always came off as serious and blunt. Now all this laughing may be an act, but at the same time---this rare carefree and good-natured side might be only seen when the camera lights are off---but brought out here because he's being interviewed by Steve Jones.
You can see he was totally at ease - enjoying himself - and Steve totally encouraged him to run free with tales in a lighthearted manner . They constantly flirted and giggled over the idea that Malcolm was indulging in artistic license. I think this interview was absolutely unique.
How interesting those days were. Can't imagine anything being as interesting on the king's road today. When did we become so boring? How do you get that back.
getting rid of the internet...
@@Whiplashed Spot on mate.
Although Malcolm McLaren has " Continued To Divide Opinion " Over the years I think that his " Significance And Intelligence " Are Indisputable regardless of anything else !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
I like how Malcolm makes fun of vivienne westwood's accent. 21:10
Does it very well too lol
2021.Timeless songs and the history.Steve,Paul,Glen,Johns,Malcolm,Viv, as a Yankee from Boston usa,was nice folks even though it was a bit hairy,lol.Wish I could been a roadie,but I was 12 and to get back to the states.😀❤
I think its unreal that the band only had 1 album!? It just keeps going today
That might be the best thing about it and the reason why it's so special!
It's a great album.
They were told they couldn’t play and John couldn’t sing, how wrong they were. It’s still sounds fresh today and the quality is un questionable. One album and still being talked about in high regard. Simple but fantastic.
Stay Free all
It still gives me goosepimples
Could listen to Malcolm a lot.
Malcolm's imitation of Vivienne is so spot on. Brilliant.
Malcolm Mclaren simply the Best
Man...started slow but then sucked me in big time. McLaren's voice and style is so unique...he's like a 70s Fagin.
He is a fantastic story. You could listen to him all night. The question is how much to believe.
a 70s Fagin [as he'd like to purport] - he's more like an eternal conniver [as the world knows]
Or punk's answer to Arthur Daley.
Oh Malcolm, miss the old bugger!
The Marvellous Malcolm McLaren
okay
if you say so
@@sexobscura 😂😂😂
Malcolm and Tony Wilson I always thought got the short end of the stick for their brilliance and guts. Would the Pistols have happened without McLaren? Certainly not to the extent we know them now I'm sure. But to slag him off as this useless money grubber that messed everything up I never bought for a minute. Yeah, maybe he manipulated Glen out of the band. But he saw the brilliance in Sid to replace him. And yeah, he may have contributed to Sid's downfall - but he tried to keep Nancy away as much as everyone else. So Sid was doomed soon as he met her and got on the junk, and really Malcolm GLORIFIED him to the infamy he has to this day. The Great Rock N' Roll Swindle is really Sid's movie. And Sid looks and sounds fabulous in it! So yeah, it may have pissed a lot of money away, made Malcolm look like the bad guy. And Ronnie Bigg's taking the piss on everything. But most remember Sid in it, and rightfully so. So if that was just to make money from after Sid checked out, which he was going to anyways - gotta credit Malcolm for doing that. He could just as easily told Sid to piss off and bring Glen back or somebody else. And Sid would've died with Nancy in Essex or Akron unnoticed.
Wilson is like McLaren in that he likes to [fictionally] place himself in the centre of all the cultural action
when the truth is that they were *NOT*
While the end of Sids life was a tradgedy, Steve Jones was an illiterate criminal whose life was greatly improved by knowing McClaren..& Lydons line that 'Malcolm put nothing into the Pistols is clearly incorrect' he had the name already, put 'the Band' together ,got them somewhere to practice & possibly of most importance together with Vivian designed great clothes so they looked 'like stars' from the start..
With some great lyrics from Lydon & some good cover versions they were 'up & running'..
There is no brilliance in a Tavistock operation.
@@deanpd3402 what did Tavistock do here?
Jonesy's great ♡
The way Malcolm laughs about jokingly being accused of having
Ripped The Sex Pistols off “Taken The Money” is very creepy and quite sinister
Absolute CNUT yeh!!!
Yep. The way he laughed like that made it sound like that certainly happened
Yes, that laugh says "I know. I know. Guilty as charged."
Weird how McLaren never got done for putting a naked 14yo girl in film/inside cover of the Swindle record making her look like be Sue Catwoman, then that Bow Wow Wow stuff.
Weird how you never got done for masturbating over it.
2 bands changed the world in my lifetime...Beatles and Pistols
Yup ...the SEX BEATLES would be some combo......
(though there was actually a late 70s band with that name)
Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen and Blackmore as well
@@STETTRACE , yes Jimi ,Eddie & Ritchie were top rate guitarists....but, that's not really a reply to James Ballards "2 bands changed the world....."
you forgot The Carpenters and ABBA
James Ballard ..I guess the Pistols got a chunk of Beatles via Glen Matlock ( or as McClaren rather unfairly calls him 'the Saturday boy') ..in his Book 'Lonely Boy' Jones says how much Matlock (musically) taught them....Jones also states his main 'musical hero' was Rod Stewart...
Population of London 20 million???? divide that figure by 2, Malcolm then you''ll be A LOT closer
Steve Jones ... You are so genuine ...
Rip London ,Malcom and the good old days …..what now Fagin? …..”live up to your name boy and dodge around sharpish “✨🎩
Great interview
Spoiled again by low sound. Fine if you can put it through a decent system or even, laptop but crap if you listen on the phone. I have perfectly good hearing too. Please just boost the sound a bit!
Poor diddums.....Phones are for phone calls,go figure.
"You never call"
- ,,You never call!''
you can see lydon learnt a lot off Malcolm the nervous laugh. the one liner put downs.
9:20 I wonder if Malcolm murdered that guy...
Hate to say this, but if it wasn’t for Malcolm we would never have had the Sex Pistols.
they existed well before he got them to help sell his wares
@@sexobscura You're full of shit.
sexobscura No
@@sexobscura The man is 100% correct, no Malcolm no Sex Pistols......fact
@@sexobscura , well cook & jones (+ Wally Nightingale) were ' a band' in the way many of have been & as a' natural progression ' from Steve's Ability to steal instruments (& many other things),Inc' Bowies pro microphones from 'Ziggys farewell gigs' at Hammersmith Odeon ...but in '75 McClaren had the name (printed on his Love/Hate shirts sold in his & Vivs shop) 'Kutie Jones & his Sex Pistols' .they played 1 gig with steve on vocals...He wasn't comfortable on vox so they looked for another vocalist...the songs in some style 'written before' john joining were 'Did you know wrong' & 'Pretty vacant' ...as earlier live recordings show e.g. I have an lp from Manchester June 76 they've added 'problems & 17' to the set (still includes Substitute, gimme no lip, what you gonna do? & no fun....)
malcolm was ok as long's you didn't believe a word he said.....
You can tell these two have a great connection. John needs to never mind the Bollocks and realize how great his life has been made.
It must have been hard for everybody when Steve Jones & Paul Cook 'switched sides' & backed Lydon in his legal case against McClaren - that took 8 years before a 'Financial Conclusion' was reached...
@Nobby Heads There were many cunts on the management and production side of the music business with almost every band you can think of. But everyone ended up rich af in the end!
Love how Malc says he got 2 million votes for London mayor and then 2 minutes later you learn he dropped out before the election.
Malcolm ran for major although he was a) overestimating London's population so immensely (10% of eligible London votes are maximum 700,000 - and even those only if everyone did actually vote which they actually didn't) and
b) in fact he only got 6% instead of 10%, so that was manipulated as well. he turned a mere 200,000 into 2 million votes without even blushing. he probably was the biggest svengali that ever lived
Major McClaren? Didn't have him down as a military type, but, yeah, this section of bullshit was particularly noticeable.
I don't know. I've never seen his svengali.
the film mentioned 'Fast Food Nation' was made & released in 2006, & was directed by Richard Linklater..but no mention of Malcolm or 'producer J.Thomas'( the last emperor, Eureka etc) in its credits..
IMDB says he was a producer on it
Produced by
Ann Carli ... co-producer
Victor Ho ... line producer
Sara Johnson ... associate producer (as Sara Greene)
Malcolm McLaren ... producer
@@jeremyratter3634 well spotted... Although 'producer' has changed in meaning much over the years ....it used to mean the person who 'Okay'd' the project or put the money up front & there were usually just a couple of 'producers' named. You often now see over 30 'producers' listed with prefixs including 'head'..'executive' 'secondary' ,'overseas', 'line'..'Deputy'..'Assistant'...
Was Jeremy Thomas named anywhere?
What a clever business man, God Bless the Sex Pistols 🏴🔥🕸️🌱
Just the bees knees... Brit marketing of vital music from the late great Malcolm M.
Malcolm relived the infamous story that changed popular culture. Hard to believe it all. Jonesy literally relived the story as though he heard it the first time.
Nice upload, Charles Hawtrey, but I put it to you that you are an imposter! Hah!
Malcolm Mc Claren was a genius and the Sex Pistols would never have happened and neither would punk rock without him and Vivienne Westwood.
Ramones did just fine with out him when they created punk. You may sit down, youre dismissed.
EGGS.BULLETS.RECORDS the ramones were never punk..
@@lrodger2486 absolutely they are. Just like England is the 51st state of America. Sit down and hush.
@@Betrayerslayer The New York Dolls did more for punk than The Ramones , they were just a garage band . Now you just sit down and hush .
@@lrodger2486 Agreed totally .
THE TRADE OFF WAS THE " SPEAK EASY "
I certainly believe you Malcolm....you had the knack or the black art of what is "cool".