That's how i killed BALTEUS the first time. I got him to, like, 5% healt but ran out of ammo, so i started beating his ass before he could get his shield back, and then kicked the asshole's head off
I don't want to excessively praise Fromsoftware but their games are really brilliant, I mean you may like them or not but they are objectively great games pushing their own standards higher witch each release and eventually, the standards of the whole industry.
Melee is supposed to be a tool for when your weapons run out, not a punishment. Just because it is possible to do this stuff without weapons does not mean it's unbalanced. @@scragglie
It's called GREAT game design. You can very easily justify punishing the player for playing the game this way. Especially since it goes against the theme of the game, but why should you? Why not make it something reasonably possible? This is what makes your game worth 60 dollars. It's a decision by the developers, since they got what they wanted when the player bought the game, they now let the player also do what they want with it. It's dope, and it's missing from too many modern games.
Fun fact: you don’t NEED the stun needle for the ice worm, it’s recommended, but you can break the face shield with regular damage, including fists, so a very lucky person could still make this run possible in the very strict sense
@@KD-_-That one time when its face is falling back down from when it pokes its head into the air, but landing roughly 200 or so perfect kicks on that... Let's just say the odds aren't great.
@@crimsonthereaper3015 well, the time limit is only after you break the shield, so you have all the time you need to beat the ol' ice worm before Rusty unleahes his last load on it (sorry, not sorry)
i thinkj they are saying the because he would have had a lot easier time with the very first tutorial boss if he had wasted all the ammo to discard the weapon @@Nadaters
I've had a lot of comments telling me this! Rather than admitting I fucked up, I'll massive cope here and just say that shooting the weapon to get rid of all the ammo counts as using a weapon :''''')
kick, punch then pile bunker is how i've been doing it oh and putting the pile bunker on your left shoulder lets you swap it out and punch with both hands for the stunlock
I had a fist only fight with a guy in PvP and it was hilarious. 1 punch would stagger either of us in our light bipedals then the stagger allowed you to stunlock punch until both your fists overheated lol.
There is the Purge weapons skill, so yeah, you can probably use regular guns against the trash and when you get to an AC battle, just toss your weapons and switch to fisticuffs.
In case you or anyone wants to optimize this (bless you if you do) kick damage is based on a few more factors, being total weight of the mech, higher is better, and the Assault boost speed from your thrusters. Also, reverse joint legs do even more damaging kicks than tank legs, but you skiped over them when comparing leg types.
Also, the damage of your punches is determined by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat.
Also, the damage of your punches is determined by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat.
@@YourantsallyIm pretty sure reverse joints at a certain weight can at least rival treads, and they get slightly further range for the kick as well. Apart from that main differences between legs are hitbox. I remember someone making a video about it, the ideal kick weight is around 80-90k after that any further weight gives very little additional damage. The additional range and kick animation makes reverse joints a lot better for a kicks and they allow you to choose your own thruster, which is important for melee builds since they want melee atl thrust
@@gogogo123454321 Nah, having fought both, and using a more DPS efficient build against Ayre, she can dodge the laser lance, which is the king of melee rushing, better than Ibis. She'll dodge out of range more in general, and has the same gimmick of Balteus, but on steroids, and primarily rushing in for melee combos. That's the first half of the fight. Second half, she REALLY goes all in on offense, trading her shield for a few nasty moves, including one that makes the Ibis Eagle look like child's play. And you saw how much trouble the Ibis Eagle gave him.
I was actually so hyped to discover punching on accident, when I ran out of ammo on a boss and had to box them to death. OF COURSE this is what you do, you beautiful mad lad!
'Armored Core 6, but the Handler pays me 5% of the income and I am on a budget' run. Jokes aside, the fact you punched the first quadruped to death is amazing. I had to go back to it after I got some upgrades because it slapped me too hard and I ended up cheesing it still by pushing it off the ledge and then shooting rockets at it.
I could feel the myself losing sanity against that fucker. I only beat him after forking over the cash for a Rocket launcher in each hand and strafing like a mad man.
Honestly it’s interesting seeing other people’s comments and stuff about playing the game. I beat that first tetrapod first try with basically the starter build
Tetrapods are tough for a newbie, but once you've gotten good at dodging and have a decent build, they go down pretty easy. I've gone up against them consecutively in the training ground, I can do 8 in a row without using a repair kit or resetting. The limiting factor is usually ammunition, not health. If you want a properly hard mini-boss, try the "defend the strider" mission on new game plus. Those unpiloted C weapons are faster than most ACs and hit just as hard. They're also accompanied by several grinders. That was a hell of a build check for me, it made me rethink my reliance on the Zimmerman-melee combo.
I have some bad news about the chapter 3 boss: I just tested this, and you CAN break the shield without using the stun needle launcher. It's just very strong pulse armor. If it's possible to do it with punches, you might need to do that fight again.
I used melee weapons for most of the play-through and noticed I could damage the worm shield with my machine gun and of course wanted to try my melee weapons which had carried me so far. It’s impossible to hit the shield without getting hit using any melee weapon available at that point. Even with a weapon like the charge sword or javelin u don’t have the dps to survive the fight
@@w4ywardluckyit's actually funny because i was actually to go first try on baltuz with pulse sword and it was suprisengly effective, the aoe version of the pulse sword fully charged can quickly build up stagger and also destroy the boss's shield
@@w4ywardlucky You do actually, there’s two attacks where it stands still for a couple seconds and it’s entirely possible to bring the shield down only with melee without taking damage and I’ve tried it when I did my starter weapon/parts only AC. It just, again, takes forever to reach the final part.
I doubt you can break it with punches even though, you're right, you can damage it with normal attacks. It's a huge shield, but actually that's not the real problem. The real problem is that it deals damage to you if you make contact with it... so... i don't think there's a hope in hell of your little punches beating the like 3000 damage it does to you for touching it. I think the only way to progress in the game is to use the stun needle launcher (or some other kind of weapon). That's Fromsoft gimmick bosses for you.
I think a coral generator wouldve been useful here. It has a really high recovery when you fully drain your en, which is something you did all the time
Ah yes, the eighth form of the "Eight Leaves, One Blade" school of swordsmanship. I'm amazed that this shit seems to actually work so well in this game
i rocked dual gatling guns and found myself out of ammo quite a bit in boss encounters. lets just say the amount of bosses i killed with a punch is definitely more than 0
Really? I also ran dual gatling guns and I never ran out of ammo. I think once I got down to like 40-50 ammo on each, but I never ran out. Maybe that was because I was also using Dual Songbirds + a few kicks for good measure
@@Artemie-np3quthere are a couple bosses where if you don’t focus the weak point you’re liable to run out of ammo. like the cinder lady’s giant firey chimney loader and the one with the armored core that sits between the tank legs.
@@obscure.reference Yea that makes sense, I guess I just clicked in the Cinder fight to shoot the big open bit, and I never did the CATAPRACT fight with my Minigun/Song build. I only just killed it yesterday in NG+ with cheese of melee lol. (Pile Driver + Laser Lance)
somewhere on the PCA spaceship. PCA soldier: sir we had suspicious AC landed on Rubicon, and he destroying our troops. PCA commander: What? what weapon did he use to be able to do that. Lenny :ZA HANDO! *punch the deck.
Fun hints: Reverse joint does a double heel slam with great range. Also, the arms help, but you can go even further with boosters meant for melee, they conserve energy and boost damage. They look like big discs with apertures on them. There's only one other melee oriented thruster that pops up late game. You can also start a melee attack and quick boost out of it to cancel, and those melee boosters let you cover ground real efficiently to position yourself perfectly for a combo. Remember too that total mech weight matters for the kick. So using those heavy spring chicken legs with tank bits gives SUPER satisfsctory performance. I actually run full melee and even bare hand in pvp like this. So trust that you can actually buff the melee quite a bit.
I'm so mad that you beat Walter so easily by only punching. That boss was such a struggle for me, and here you are just giving him the ol' razzle dazzle.
Honestly, I consider him one of the easier bosses. The only AC fights that really give me trouble are the 2v1 and 3v1 fights. Some of the NG+ bosses are properly challenging.
Notice this when playing with the AC trainer. This is the reason why you can't put laser blades on the right arm. The devs don't want you alternating between 4 blades. Still, should've been an OST upgrade. Also, imagine if arm parts have a punch damage stat. The stronger the arm, the more damage and stagger it does.
Thanks for some solid advice lads. Didn't have gats but used dual machine guns on a tankier build. Much love my Armoured Bros. Funnily enough I ran out of ammo and finished it off with a punch!
The "jet engine" melee lunge isn't a hidden stat. Bottom of the list there's a Melee Energy Cost and Melee Lunge Distance. There's generators that specialize in melee. There's also Energy Supply that increases the amount your bar refills automatically after fully emptying and some have higher energy pools that take longer to drain.
For anyone looking to try this out, the damage of your punch is affected by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat. Also, the damage of your kicks is determined by your weight, with diminishing returns past 80,000 weight. Reverse joint legs get a bonus to kick damage. My parts list for my punching build is: - Basho head - Main Dish body - Basho arms - Spring Chicken legs - Kikaku thrusters - San-Tai generator
Reguardless of all the goofery...Lenny is a legit genius gamer. I can hear his mom thinking 'if only e' put this mooch time into e's piano e'd be playin' Carnegie Haul!'
I love how he was so worried on the tutorial and the Jailbreak Missions when you can literally just empty all your ammo in the safe spots to make the game purge your weapons automatically, meaning you can go right back to punching. I'd say that'd be an acceptable rule of the run.
Was testing my AC and ran out of ammo against the training AC after killing it a few times. Decided to just keep punching it, seeing a mech just get absolutely stunlocked by a flurry of haymakers was absolutely hilarious.
For a while every time Lenny said "core" i understood "car" so at the middle of the video there was a lot of "car vs car fights" going on which was absolutely hilarious. Great video. Love the well sprinkled in, but not over the top enthusiasm when Lenny beat certain bosses.
I cannot believe not only how effective that was, but I had no idea the last part of the Ice Worm was a dps rush and you did it, but you beat the Ibis AC. That was honestly insane and I was popping off when you did it! Keep it spicy you ABSOLUTE MAD LAD!!!
Quick tip for anyone wanting to attempt this challenge, if you completely run out of ammo on a weapon you will discard it and transition into punching, which makes the first mission and the start of chapter 5 a lot easier.
I was thinking: If you start the tutorial mission by shooting all the ammo in your machine gun and the auto purge option is on, you should be able to use a fist in the tutorial boss fight. The only problem is that restarting checkpoint would bring the gun back so maybe you did beat it the best way because that might take to long to expend all ammo every single attempt.
Wow, what an amazing run. Good job! Every time I see these challenges I think "will they get past Ibis?" She caused me so much trouble on all my playthroughs, really well done to beat her without weapons.
AC4 on xbox 360 had keybinds to purge your weapons, regardless of ammo remaining. id imagine lenny would be kicking himself if AC6 has this aswell and he just didnt notice x)
@@lordglitch4266 That's the manual purge when you run out of ammo it auto drops the weapon without the upgrade so yea he could have just shot at a wall sheer that would probably take a good few minuets but that would save a lot of time fighting the boss. I know this because I don't have that upgrade and I like to run a full missiles loadout and my right & left hand, missiles launches run out of ammo a lot and my AC just throws them away then I can now punch I had to punch the ACT 2 end boss with 10% life left.
@williammiklos3334 yeH I was just saying manual purge is an upgrade since that's what I thought the person was asking. Only time I ran out of ammo was in the 5-wave fight in late game, and thankfully I had the plasma lance to finish up or that would've taken a while
The main downside of trying to punch enemies is that many faster enemies will dodge out of the way faster than a regular punch can track, while melee weapons get better acceleration into an attack. But yeah, it is definitely possible, and I even beat the Sea Spider my first time around with punches after running out of ammo in my hand weapons.
@@giveluminacat10nobles21 Kicks are great. Though if you miss they leave you open for a little while which isn't ideal, so I don't really like to spam them.
Someone beat AC6 as an Atlas. It's an overencumbered biped that never runs, never boosts and only uses jumpjets to navigate the map. He's beaten practically every boss in the game like that.
I found myself out of ammo during the mission where you face the giant oven boss at the end, and I had to punch my way to the supply drop... it was fun as hell 😂😂😂 this game is leagues above everything I expected! One of the best FromSoft titles to date!!
So for the record, you're not actually *forced* to use the needle gun in the Ice Worm mission. You *can* leave it behind and bring something else. The inherent problem for this run though is that your AC coming into contact with the worm's face at all just instantly kills it.
Has Megas paint? Check Is funny like coop? Check Has a giant robot with a car looking head? Check Punches everything to extinction? Check This is just a Megas XLR Roleplay and I love it lol
He turned it into Mech-souls officially. "Once we stagger them, we need to only punch once or twice, then back up" Also, that this run is possible means that just unequipping one of your hand weapons to free up for the punch attack is very viable.
The other day, I saw PVP match on the subreddit where the player had enough of losing several matches and challenged his opponent to a fist brawl. Dude had MGR Senator Armatrong's theme playing in the background and the fight was wicked.
ive found that if you run out of ammo you begin punching as well, theoretically in the first mission you could just shoot at nothing until you run out of ammo
was fighting sea spider yesterday and ran out of ammo, which my ac then promptly threw away my dual wield miniguns and my first thought was "lenny has to do the whole game like this now". happy to see i was right
Fun Fact, for teh tutorial mission it may have been easier to just waste all your ammo on nothing and once depleted, you automatically discard the weapon, this would in turn give ONE fist to play with in that battle.
Fun fact if you expend all your ammo your ac will drop the gun so even in the first mission you can still punch, you just to have shoot your gun into the ground until you're out of ammo at the start
For the tutorial: I would argue that "shooting your weapon at a wall without doing damage" doesn't violate "no weapons" any more than simply having them equipped. Therefore, you could empty you ammo into a wall, which would allow you to then purge your weapons and use your fists.
@@Sorain1I'm pretty sure it's faster to empty your guns than to kill the gunship by crashing into it for any given attempt, and it would definitely take less attempts.
I might be wrong about this, but I *think* the worm actually does take a TINY bit of damage to it's shield from other attacks, which may potentially mean the stun needle might not be necessary. I'm not too sure about that though.
People can argue all the live long day about what you are, but the one thing I believe everybody can agree on is that you’re a freaking legend for doing these kinda challenges.
So you can stunlock, stand between the legs and get no damage, trap them in the corner... I thought by now from software should account for Lenny to play their gamea like this
Finished the other route so I can finally come back and finish this video! And yeah, oh boy did you get lucky for the route you chose, lol. The other final boss would have been a PAIN with fists only x_x
This is funny, sure, but can we stop to appreciate how good Lenny really is? I'm still mired in Chapter 2 using real weapons, and Lenny's dominating bare-handed like a giant, metal Bruce Lee.
Yea I'm still stuck with sea spider and I dislike playing full tank like ppl saying with double gats to beat it. I forced my way through Balteus with speed build and dodging and plan to do so with the spider. So yeah Lenny is really good at the game regardless of stunlock feature being too good on some bosses.
@erzabryantara9004 yeah I ended up doing the same thing against balteus. I just equipped 2 pulse weapons and the quick machine guns then played very aggressively and stayed as close as possible to the boss
Though I'm concerned for your mental health, I truly appreciate the lengths to which you'll go to make an entertaining and interesting video, even to the point of rejecting a free pass, at the beginning of the game just to stay true to the idea of the video to a degree no one would really demand of you. That Worm kill in special was exhilarating. Great work as always, Lenny, you absolute mad lad! Edit: took me a while to check this one out 'cause I want to 100% the game before checking out, just to avoid spoilers.
Runs like these are ine of the things i love about older ac games, especially the lacks of gimic type fights/ core vs core fights. I've always been put off by fimic bosses after ac games with only corevs core fights
@@Sorain1 the OS upgrade just lets you throw away the weapon instantly, if you run out of ammo you are left with the fist no matter what. So Lenny could've just shot at nothing for a while to spend all the ammo
Fantastic video! Very satisfying to watch you pummel the Sea Spider and Ibis to death haha. Unless I missed it, I don't think in the video you mentioned using OST chips to improve your melee damage and improve damage when enemies are vulnerable. If you do this again on new game+ I think that would be a nice damage boost 😊
Not sure if it would have made things better or worse, but for the heli boss you could have fired all your ammo to drop the weapon and be able to punch in the tutorial
I just finished the game for the first time and I have to say It's amazing, the soundtrack is really cool, the variations of builds is just big and nice and some of the bosses can really challenge you, but you never think "this is impossible" that's what I love the most about this game, there is no boss that feels too unfair.
You bastard. First time I'm seeing one of your videos. Fantastic content/plot, great editing sound effects etc., use amazing nostalgic music. It's fantastic, damn you
I dare you to get the true ending reason to see you through this exact same build, and to get the true ending will be entertaining because the final boss of the true ending is All Mind and to get the true ending you have to get the other ending where you detonate the coral. Also, because the true ending is literally the hardest ending to get no matter what you do, trust me, I got it, and I feel dead inside.
The beauty behind most Fromsoft Games......Total Build diversity.....YOU MY GOOD SIR! Have earned yourself a like and a sub! Keep up the good work fella
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BROOOO that feat against the Heli was legendary
Did Vaati already saw this? Or he was enjoying your suffering live?
Most AC Pilots: "Behold the variety of armaments on my engine of war!"
Zero Lenny: "Yeah, but do you know kung-fu?"
yea that's funny
Don't you mean: Mech-Fu?
G Gundam hours here.
*ZeroLenny: “DO YOU WANT A FUCKING SLAP!?”
Good idea, he should do this in pvp!
Imagine telling someone struggling against Balteus "Have you tried unequiping all of your weapons?".
"try fist" "but whole"
WAT!
That's how i killed BALTEUS the first time. I got him to, like, 5% healt but ran out of ammo, so i started beating his ass before he could get his shield back, and then kicked the asshole's head off
I bet he'd be fuming
This game dropped 2 days ago and he's already on his shenanigans 🤣
creators got early access
lenny does what a lenny should
What else did you expect?
Vatty posted a hitless guide/attemp like half an hour before the game was released.
The from software community is insane.
To be fair, I did decide to use the fist as an off-hand weapon for the first portion of the game. Is a great melee complement.
The fact that the game is centered around mech customisation and you can just load into a mission with no weapons is fucking brilliant lol
unbalanced=brilliant
@@scragglie yes
I don't want to excessively praise Fromsoftware but their games are really brilliant, I mean you may like them or not but they are objectively great games pushing their own standards higher witch each release and eventually, the standards of the whole industry.
Melee is supposed to be a tool for when your weapons run out, not a punishment. Just because it is possible to do this stuff without weapons does not mean it's unbalanced.
@@scragglie
It's called GREAT game design. You can very easily justify punishing the player for playing the game this way. Especially since it goes against the theme of the game, but why should you? Why not make it something reasonably possible? This is what makes your game worth 60 dollars. It's a decision by the developers, since they got what they wanted when the player bought the game, they now let the player also do what they want with it. It's dope, and it's missing from too many modern games.
Fun fact: you don’t NEED the stun needle for the ice worm, it’s recommended, but you can break the face shield with regular damage, including fists, so a very lucky person could still make this run possible in the very strict sense
I don't know, I feel like you'd just die running at its face due to that dealing damage
@@KD-_-That one time when its face is falling back down from when it pokes its head into the air, but landing roughly 200 or so perfect kicks on that... Let's just say the odds aren't great.
@@KD-_- yeah any contact with the worm (face or body) deals tremendous damage to your AC.
Plus the third phase of the fight you kinda have a time limit to beat the ice worm
@@crimsonthereaper3015 well, the time limit is only after you break the shield, so you have all the time you need to beat the ol' ice worm before Rusty unleahes his last load on it (sorry, not sorry)
Fun fact: If you simply ran out ammo you automatically go into punching mode
or OS upgrade that lets you drop weapons manually for more weight reduction
i thinkj they are saying the because he would have had a lot easier time with the very first tutorial boss if he had wasted all the ammo to discard the weapon @@Nadaters
I've had a lot of comments telling me this!
Rather than admitting I fucked up, I'll massive cope here and just say that shooting the weapon to get rid of all the ammo counts as using a weapon :''''')
@@ZeroLennyyou know tbf your not wrong.
@legendaryoutcast4440 true and the escape level
I can see the fist stunlock being a genuine tech when combined with normal weaponry
kick, punch then pile bunker is how i've been doing it
oh and putting the pile bunker on your left shoulder lets you swap it out and punch with both hands for the stunlock
Fists in GOW 2018 were a viable form of combat because it staggered enemies quicker. I could see a simillar strategy being developed here.
I can imagine a no weapons pvp build being possible
I had a fist only fight with a guy in PvP and it was hilarious. 1 punch would stagger either of us in our light bipedals then the stagger allowed you to stunlock punch until both your fists overheated lol.
There is the Purge weapons skill, so yeah, you can probably use regular guns against the trash and when you get to an AC battle, just toss your weapons and switch to fisticuffs.
In case you or anyone wants to optimize this (bless you if you do) kick damage is based on a few more factors, being total weight of the mech, higher is better, and the Assault boost speed from your thrusters. Also, reverse joint legs do even more damaging kicks than tank legs, but you skiped over them when comparing leg types.
Also, the damage of your punches is determined by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat.
Kick damage is based on weight, not leg type, the tracks did more damage cuz theyre the heaviest, but you can also make the rest of your build heavy
While true, I’ve heard that reverse joint legs actually have a multiplier compared to the other legs. I don’t think it beats out max weight treads tho
@@engithe5th918 they do not. I've checked
Also, the damage of your punches is determined by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat.
@@YourantsallyIm pretty sure reverse joints at a certain weight can at least rival treads, and they get slightly further range for the kick as well. Apart from that main differences between legs are hitbox. I remember someone making a video about it, the ideal kick weight is around 80-90k after that any further weight gives very little additional damage. The additional range and kick animation makes reverse joints a lot better for a kicks and they allow you to choose your own thruster, which is important for melee builds since they want melee atl thrust
He definately is the onepunchman xD
if you decided to not kill carla, the final boss you would’ve faced would be impossible lmao
My thoughts exactly, its impossible to get close long enough to land a melee hit reliably let alone just fists
@@alecmcchesney Not really, if he could do it with Ibis then he could do it with Ayre
Well shes possible
I gonna try it
Be back in like an long time
I managed to get to phase 2
But the problem came with having to use aa
@@gogogo123454321 Nah, having fought both, and using a more DPS efficient build against Ayre, she can dodge the laser lance, which is the king of melee rushing, better than Ibis. She'll dodge out of range more in general, and has the same gimmick of Balteus, but on steroids, and primarily rushing in for melee combos. That's the first half of the fight. Second half, she REALLY goes all in on offense, trading her shield for a few nasty moves, including one that makes the Ibis Eagle look like child's play. And you saw how much trouble the Ibis Eagle gave him.
I was actually so hyped to discover punching on accident, when I ran out of ammo on a boss and had to box them to death.
OF COURSE this is what you do, you beautiful mad lad!
'Armored Core 6, but the Handler pays me 5% of the income and I am on a budget' run.
Jokes aside, the fact you punched the first quadruped to death is amazing. I had to go back to it after I got some upgrades because it slapped me too hard and I ended up cheesing it still by pushing it off the ledge and then shooting rockets at it.
I could feel the myself losing sanity against that fucker. I only beat him after forking over the cash for a Rocket launcher in each hand and strafing like a mad man.
@@tripps3631sword + shotgun tends to clown on quads so thankfully I didn't have that issue
Honestly it’s interesting seeing other people’s comments and stuff about playing the game. I beat that first tetrapod first try with basically the starter build
Tetrapods are tough for a newbie, but once you've gotten good at dodging and have a decent build, they go down pretty easy. I've gone up against them consecutively in the training ground, I can do 8 in a row without using a repair kit or resetting. The limiting factor is usually ammunition, not health. If you want a properly hard mini-boss, try the "defend the strider" mission on new game plus. Those unpiloted C weapons are faster than most ACs and hit just as hard. They're also accompanied by several grinders. That was a hell of a build check for me, it made me rethink my reliance on the Zimmerman-melee combo.
Lenny legit went G Gundam on his enemy
Burning fist time
@@GAMEFACE183 with all that exhaust, this one's a true burning finger
dude went Jigen Hao Ryu and School of the Undefeated. Master Asia and Domon would be proud.
THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED! ITS LOUD ROAR TELLS ME TO GRASP VICTORY! GO! BAKUNETSU GOD FINGER!!
@@MaphteahTAKE THIS! MY ANGER, MY LOVE AND ALL OF MY SORROW!
I have some bad news about the chapter 3 boss: I just tested this, and you CAN break the shield without using the stun needle launcher. It's just very strong pulse armor. If it's possible to do it with punches, you might need to do that fight again.
I used melee weapons for most of the play-through and noticed I could damage the worm shield with my machine gun and of course wanted to try my melee weapons which had carried me so far. It’s impossible to hit the shield without getting hit using any melee weapon available at that point. Even with a weapon like the charge sword or javelin u don’t have the dps to survive the fight
@@w4ywardluckyit's actually funny because i was actually to go first try on baltuz with pulse sword and it was suprisengly effective, the aoe version of the pulse sword fully charged can quickly build up stagger and also destroy the boss's shield
Yeah but that would take him forever like longer then the rest of the content in the game long
@@w4ywardlucky You do actually, there’s two attacks where it stands still for a couple seconds and it’s entirely possible to bring the shield down only with melee without taking damage and I’ve tried it when I did my starter weapon/parts only AC. It just, again, takes forever to reach the final part.
I doubt you can break it with punches even though, you're right, you can damage it with normal attacks. It's a huge shield, but actually that's not the real problem. The real problem is that it deals damage to you if you make contact with it... so... i don't think there's a hope in hell of your little punches beating the like 3000 damage it does to you for touching it. I think the only way to progress in the game is to use the stun needle launcher (or some other kind of weapon). That's Fromsoft gimmick bosses for you.
I think a coral generator wouldve been useful here. It has a really high recovery when you fully drain your en, which is something you did all the time
Ah yes, the eighth form of the "Eight Leaves, One Blade" school of swordsmanship. I'm amazed that this shit seems to actually work so well in this game
Based reference
@@KeyToAeris2024unexpected but fitting to find you here lol
Wasn't expecting a Trails reference in the comments. Hell yeah.
Gonna add my hat to the list of people who got that reference. Love that series, but was def not expecting to see it here.
I named my AC Ashen Knight just for Trails, take my like
i rocked dual gatling guns and found myself out of ammo quite a bit in boss encounters. lets just say the amount of bosses i killed with a punch is definitely more than 0
Really? I also ran dual gatling guns and I never ran out of ammo. I think once I got down to like 40-50 ammo on each, but I never ran out. Maybe that was because I was also using Dual Songbirds + a few kicks for good measure
@@Artemie-np3qu well im quite awful at the game so i imagine that would have something to do with it.
@@Artemie-np3quthere are a couple bosses where if you don’t focus the weak point you’re liable to run out of ammo. like the cinder lady’s giant firey chimney loader and the one with the armored core that sits between the tank legs.
Fire one at a time. That way you are preserving ammo better and never stop shooting. Can always switch a shoulder weapon for a back up gun too
@@obscure.reference Yea that makes sense, I guess I just clicked in the Cinder fight to shoot the big open bit, and I never did the CATAPRACT fight with my Minigun/Song build. I only just killed it yesterday in NG+ with cheese of melee lol. (Pile Driver + Laser Lance)
somewhere on the PCA spaceship.
PCA soldier: sir we had suspicious AC landed on Rubicon, and he destroying our troops.
PCA commander: What? what weapon did he use to be able to do that.
Lenny :ZA HANDO!
*punch the deck.
Fun hints: Reverse joint does a double heel slam with great range. Also, the arms help, but you can go even further with boosters meant for melee, they conserve energy and boost damage. They look like big discs with apertures on them. There's only one other melee oriented thruster that pops up late game.
You can also start a melee attack and quick boost out of it to cancel, and those melee boosters let you cover ground real efficiently to position yourself perfectly for a combo.
Remember too that total mech weight matters for the kick. So using those heavy spring chicken legs with tank bits gives SUPER satisfsctory performance.
I actually run full melee and even bare hand in pvp like this. So trust that you can actually buff the melee quite a bit.
Dropping kicking people in pvp is hilarious because it absolutely yeets their body across the arena on a killing hit
I'm so mad that you beat Walter so easily by only punching.
That boss was such a struggle for me, and here you are just giving him the ol' razzle dazzle.
If you think walter was hard, wait till you fight ayre
Honestly, I consider him one of the easier bosses. The only AC fights that really give me trouble are the 2v1 and 3v1 fights. Some of the NG+ bosses are properly challenging.
Notice this when playing with the AC trainer. This is the reason why you can't put laser blades on the right arm. The devs don't want you alternating between 4 blades. Still, should've been an OST upgrade. Also, imagine if arm parts have a punch damage stat. The stronger the arm, the more damage and stagger it does.
Yeah I won’t lie it was a serious disappointment when I found out I couldn’t use two swords
too bad they didn't bring back the dual sword weapon arms.
@@LuoSon312_G8I remember those! Those rocked 👌
@@pHixiq You can at least equip two swords with the OS tuning Weapon Bay and swap while the other is cooling down.
@@DNToqueryeah but that’s only on 1 arm
There is no dual wield
I'm crying Lenny. I've spent 10 hours trying to beat Balteus and you do it with fists. I have much to learn haha.
Dual gats and songbirds or10x missle will carry you thru the game.. double stun needles once you get them
@@chrispena2457you don’t get the Gatling until after that fight iirc
@@chrispena2457 you literally don't get either gats or songbirds until after balteus lmao
Thanks for some solid advice lads. Didn't have gats but used dual machine guns on a tankier build. Much love my Armoured Bros. Funnily enough I ran out of ammo and finished it off with a punch!
@@chrispena2457songbirds and 10x unlock after balteus im pretty sure
As a melee Core I approve this strategy
The "jet engine" melee lunge isn't a hidden stat. Bottom of the list there's a Melee Energy Cost and Melee Lunge Distance. There's generators that specialize in melee.
There's also Energy Supply that increases the amount your bar refills automatically after fully emptying and some have higher energy pools that take longer to drain.
For anyone looking to try this out, the damage of your punch is affected by your arms' Melee Specialization stat, and the distance you can cover while punching is determined by your thrusters' Melee Attack Thrust stat. Also, the damage of your kicks is determined by your weight, with diminishing returns past 80,000 weight. Reverse joint legs get a bonus to kick damage.
My parts list for my punching build is:
- Basho head
- Main Dish body
- Basho arms
- Spring Chicken legs
- Kikaku thrusters
- San-Tai generator
vaati and lennys new found friendship is what i inspire to have
Aspire bro
Reguardless of all the goofery...Lenny is a legit genius gamer. I can hear his mom thinking 'if only e' put this mooch time into e's piano e'd be playin' Carnegie Haul!'
I read that in the voice of Eric Idle playing a woman in Monty Python
I thought for the tutorial you would shoot all your bullets at a wall since it forces your mech to drop the weapon and start punching instead
I bet lenny's kicking himself after reading this
Pretty sure you can also purge weapons with a command
@@McGunpla you can with the OS upgrade
I found out the same thing when I used all my weapon ammo up. I started to punch instead. I never thought of beating the game like that though. Haha
@McGunpla you have to set not auto purge in the settings
Swinburne's "What!?" in response to you spamming the stick is so fucking good
I love how he was so worried on the tutorial and the Jailbreak Missions when you can literally just empty all your ammo in the safe spots to make the game purge your weapons automatically, meaning you can go right back to punching. I'd say that'd be an acceptable rule of the run.
Stunlocking Balteus is just chef's kiss.
Was testing my AC and ran out of ammo against the training AC after killing it a few times. Decided to just keep punching it, seeing a mech just get absolutely stunlocked by a flurry of haymakers was absolutely hilarious.
“THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED. ITS LOUD ROAR TELLS ME TO GRASP VICTORY!”
For a while every time Lenny said "core" i understood "car" so at the middle of the video there was a lot of "car vs car fights" going on which was absolutely hilarious. Great video. Love the well sprinkled in, but not over the top enthusiasm when Lenny beat certain bosses.
I cannot believe not only how effective that was, but I had no idea the last part of the Ice Worm was a dps rush and you did it, but you beat the Ibis AC. That was honestly insane and I was popping off when you did it! Keep it spicy you ABSOLUTE MAD LAD!!!
Quick tip for anyone wanting to attempt this challenge, if you completely run out of ammo on a weapon you will discard it and transition into punching, which makes the first mission and the start of chapter 5 a lot easier.
@@NomadCanid But you can't do that on the start
@@NomadCanid and the mech you get at the start of chapter 5 doesn't have your core upgrades.
@@InsulinRunnerthey're not though?
@@CaptainCFalcon You're right, there's an option to auto-purge weapons in the settings that I didn't know about. Mine was off by default.
@@InsulinRunner Auto-purge is on by default though, that's not gonna be different for different people.
Damn, wasn't expecting beating the game following a IGN guide this soon :D.
More seriously, insane work you done there
I guess you could say this run really, floats down.
I was thinking: If you start the tutorial mission by shooting all the ammo in your machine gun and the auto purge option is on, you should be able to use a fist in the tutorial boss fight. The only problem is that restarting checkpoint would bring the gun back so maybe you did beat it the best way because that might take to long to expend all ammo every single attempt.
Wow, what an amazing run. Good job! Every time I see these challenges I think "will they get past Ibis?" She caused me so much trouble on all my playthroughs, really well done to beat her without weapons.
Ibis was tough for me, but I beat it after 10-15 tries. Know what was a wall for me? Arquebus. It took me THREE. FUCKING. HOURS.
@@chrismanuel9768and yet for some reason he didn't add clips of that fight! I suppose it must've just been identical for him as the 1st fight
I love the fact that he doesnt just shoot his gun at a wall in the tutorial mission. Expending all ammos makes your AC just chuck it aside
It doesn't in the tutorial mission, as the mech you're forced to use doesn't have the OS to discard weapons.
@@InsulinRunner You don't need the OS for that. If you run out of ammo on one weapon it is automatically discarded
@@Irn0x Not in the tutorial mission. Try it.
@@InsulinRunner I just did, it works. You don't need the upgrade.
@@TheLegendaryHacker Are you on ng+?
Lenny imposing dominance at 14:19 got a good chuckle out of me.
Especially the “What?”
For the tutorial mission you could've just shot the weapons at a wall, waste all your ammo and auto drop them....
AC4 on xbox 360 had keybinds to purge your weapons, regardless of ammo remaining. id imagine lenny would be kicking himself if AC6 has this aswell and he just didnt notice x)
@@Zarphonthat's an upgrade you have to unlock through the arena iirc
@@lordglitch4266 Ahhh, fair, didnt know what its like in AC6
@@lordglitch4266 That's the manual purge when you run out of ammo it auto drops the weapon without the upgrade so yea he could have just shot at a wall sheer that would probably take a good few minuets but that would save a lot of time fighting the boss.
I know this because I don't have that upgrade and I like to run a full missiles loadout and my right & left hand, missiles launches run out of ammo a lot and my AC just throws them away then I can now punch I had to punch the ACT 2 end boss with 10% life left.
@williammiklos3334 yeH I was just saying manual purge is an upgrade since that's what I thought the person was asking. Only time I ran out of ammo was in the 5-wave fight in late game, and thankfully I had the plasma lance to finish up or that would've taken a while
Wait, what about that arquebus balteus on your Kill Cinder carla route? You know between that 29:40 smart cleaner and Last boss?
Ive been wondering that this whole time any answer?
Watching Lenny beat the ice worm to death with his bare hands was strangely cathartic
I love how this is actually somewhat viable in this game
The main downside of trying to punch enemies is that many faster enemies will dodge out of the way faster than a regular punch can track, while melee weapons get better acceleration into an attack. But yeah, it is definitely possible, and I even beat the Sea Spider my first time around with punches after running out of ammo in my hand weapons.
@@echomjpwhat about kicks? I wouldn't say it's a weapon and they might help with faster enemies.
@@giveluminacat10nobles21 Kicks are great. Though if you miss they leave you open for a little while which isn't ideal, so I don't really like to spam them.
Someone beat AC6 as an Atlas. It's an overencumbered biped that never runs, never boosts and only uses jumpjets to navigate the map. He's beaten practically every boss in the game like that.
poor lenny, if he just fired at the floor to use up the ammo he could have done the tutorial with a punch
I found myself out of ammo during the mission where you face the giant oven boss at the end, and I had to punch my way to the supply drop... it was fun as hell 😂😂😂 this game is leagues above everything I expected! One of the best FromSoft titles to date!!
So for the record, you're not actually *forced* to use the needle gun in the Ice Worm mission. You *can* leave it behind and bring something else.
The inherent problem for this run though is that your AC coming into contact with the worm's face at all just instantly kills it.
Has Megas paint? Check
Is funny like coop? Check
Has a giant robot with a car looking head? Check
Punches everything to extinction? Check
This is just a Megas XLR Roleplay and I love it lol
It needs a big red button in the cockpit to launch all the missiles
He turned it into Mech-souls officially.
"Once we stagger them, we need to only punch once or twice, then back up"
Also, that this run is possible means that just unequipping one of your hand weapons to free up for the punch attack is very viable.
The other day, I saw PVP match on the subreddit where the player had enough of losing several matches and challenged his opponent to a fist brawl.
Dude had MGR Senator Armatrong's theme playing in the background and the fight was wicked.
@@TheNapster153Could feel "ドドドド " as they approached
ive found that if you run out of ammo you begin punching as well, theoretically in the first mission you could just shoot at nothing until you run out of ammo
was fighting sea spider yesterday and ran out of ammo, which my ac then promptly threw away my dual wield miniguns and my first thought was "lenny has to do the whole game like this now". happy to see i was right
ah nvm hes doing the ending i havent done yet, watch the rest tomorrow night then
Fun Fact, for teh tutorial mission it may have been easier to just waste all your ammo on nothing and once depleted, you automatically discard the weapon, this would in turn give ONE fist to play with in that battle.
Other AC Pilots :
"Where's your weapons?"
Raven :
"Never use one... It's a distraction."
Honestly. Love you for this. You absolute maddest of lads.
I can't even imagine the dedication of this kind of run.
The C-Spider actually is fairly decent for this challenge since you are considbely better off staying as close to it as possible anyway
Ikr? The plan is to get directly up next to it and try to stun it as soon as possibly anyway so this didn't really change anything
Wow, I didn't even know you could do this. Props to the devs for actually making this instead of a generic text box saying you need a weapon equipped.
"WHAT MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL FREELANCER"
"I literally beat you with just my fucking fists iguana"
Me struggling to kill bosses with the good stuff equipped meanwhile this guy goes in with consecutive normal punches and takes out the IBIS.
Fun fact if you expend all your ammo your ac will drop the gun so even in the first mission you can still punch, you just to have shoot your gun into the ground until you're out of ammo at the start
For the tutorial: I would argue that "shooting your weapon at a wall without doing damage" doesn't violate "no weapons" any more than simply having them equipped. Therefore, you could empty you ammo into a wall, which would allow you to then purge your weapons and use your fists.
Only, the moment you checkpoint, the gun is back. It's not worth the time investment.
@@Sorain1I'm pretty sure it's faster to empty your guns than to kill the gunship by crashing into it for any given attempt, and it would definitely take less attempts.
Fun fact: somebody is making an entire crackish armoured core fanfic based on this entire premise
As SOON as I saw my AC punch after running out of ammo, I knew we were getting a Lenny vid
I might be wrong about this, but I *think* the worm actually does take a TINY bit of damage to it's shield from other attacks, which may potentially mean the stun needle might not be necessary. I'm not too sure about that though.
Correct. It just takes a LOT of abuse to break the shield without the stun needle. You also get funny dialogue from the NPCs if you don't bring it.
if you didn't bring the needle than other weapons can break the shield. if you did equip the needle than you'll have to use it
We love you Lenny, don't do this to yourself.
I'm glad the worm could help us learn to count with lenny again
Man, I'm at 3:09 and I'm just dropping a like and a sub just for your will of auto destruction for what you did there. You are a hero.
People can argue all the live long day about what you are, but the one thing I believe everybody can agree on is that you’re a freaking legend for doing these kinda challenges.
I'd love to see how this build does in PVP
If you can land the very first hit, you legitimately can stunlock people to their death.
The trouble is landing that first hit...
So you can stunlock, stand between the legs and get no damage, trap them in the corner... I thought by now from software should account for Lenny to play their gamea like this
Of course you brought weapons on this run.
THEZE GUNS~! Oh yeah!
Really love watching people fall in love with Armored Core.
This was hilarious and impressive!
Thanks & Cheers!
💖
Finished the other route so I can finally come back and finish this video! And yeah, oh boy did you get lucky for the route you chose, lol. The other final boss would have been a PAIN with fists only x_x
This man is the embodiment of "I didn't hear no bell!" lol
This is funny, sure, but can we stop to appreciate how good Lenny really is? I'm still mired in Chapter 2 using real weapons, and Lenny's dominating bare-handed like a giant, metal Bruce Lee.
Yea I'm still stuck with sea spider and I dislike playing full tank like ppl saying with double gats to beat it. I forced my way through Balteus with speed build and dodging and plan to do so with the spider. So yeah Lenny is really good at the game regardless of stunlock feature being too good on some bosses.
@erzabryantara9004 yeah I ended up doing the same thing against balteus. I just equipped 2 pulse weapons and the quick machine guns then played very aggressively and stayed as close as possible to the boss
The best thing I can say for sea spider is. Very close to slightly medium range is the sweet spot. You back off and it's laser city
Lenny really gave his fists the E for everyone rating
I have never seen an AC pelvic thrust a heavy combat helicopter to death until now...
Outstanding.
Though I'm concerned for your mental health, I truly appreciate the lengths to which you'll go to make an entertaining and interesting video, even to the point of rejecting a free pass, at the beginning of the game just to stay true to the idea of the video to a degree no one would really demand of you. That Worm kill in special was exhilarating. Great work as always, Lenny, you absolute mad lad!
Edit: took me a while to check this one out 'cause I want to 100% the game before checking out, just to avoid spoilers.
For the tutorial, I believe that running out of ammo would have forced you into punch mode
The amount of firsts and records zerolenny has could fill a chapter in the Guinness book
I'm surprised he didn't waste all of his ammo in the first mission to auto purge his weapons lol, would've been so much easier lol.
That first boss took basing your head againsed a wall to a new level
14:19 I like that little detail never thought the devs would think that
Runs like these are ine of the things i love about older ac games, especially the lacks of gimic type fights/ core vs core fights. I've always been put off by fimic bosses after ac games with only corevs core fights
Would love to see the third ending boss cleared this way as well (third playthrough boss)
As for the tutorial level, I'm pretty sure you can manually purge your weapons and throw them away to use your fists from the start
Nope. It's an OS unlock, and on the tutorial level you have no OS upgrades. (same with the escape level.) Not even in Newgame +/++
@@Sorain1 the OS upgrade just lets you throw away the weapon instantly, if you run out of ammo you are left with the fist no matter what. So Lenny could've just shot at nothing for a while to spend all the ammo
The fact that you defeated the tutorial boss using the "bumblebee trying to escape through a closed window" method is legendary alone.
you know, in the tutorial you coudld have just shot a wall, when you're out of ammo you drop the weapon
Fantastic video! Very satisfying to watch you pummel the Sea Spider and Ibis to death haha.
Unless I missed it, I don't think in the video you mentioned using OST chips to improve your melee damage and improve damage when enemies are vulnerable. If you do this again on new game+ I think that would be a nice damage boost 😊
Not sure if it would have made things better or worse, but for the heli boss you could have fired all your ammo to drop the weapon and be able to punch in the tutorial
I just finished the game for the first time and I have to say
It's amazing, the soundtrack is really cool, the variations of builds is just big and nice and some of the bosses can really challenge you, but you never think "this is impossible" that's what I love the most about this game, there is no boss that feels too unfair.
The hardest boss in the game is the camera in the ayre fight
You bastard. First time I'm seeing one of your videos. Fantastic content/plot, great editing sound effects etc., use amazing nostalgic music. It's fantastic, damn you
I dare you to get the true ending reason to see you through this exact same build, and to get the true ending will be entertaining because the final boss of the true ending is All Mind and to get the true ending you have to get the other ending where you detonate the coral. Also, because the true ending is literally the hardest ending to get no matter what you do, trust me, I got it, and I feel dead inside.
Please let his mum show up in this
No way
The beauty behind most Fromsoft Games......Total Build diversity.....YOU MY GOOD SIR! Have earned yourself a like and a sub! Keep up the good work fella
I was so excited to see the slo-mo headbutt kill on that chopper
Man- you are so epic! I love your humor and mad respect to your skills and determination!
The "REAL MEN" get out of their mech and fight the Kilometer long Robot worms with their bare hands.