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@@librarylynx650 he marked Jimin at the beginning, though, along with Jin and V and RM. if you mean the part he mentions jimin raising his shirt when it was jungkook, he was laughing his head off and wasn't paying attention, that could be why he made the mistake.
phan swiftie13 it means “one true 7” kinda meaning that you like/Stan all seven members the same or they’re all your favorite. So it might be like “who’s your bias?”.. “I’m OT7”. It works with other groups too, like “I don’t care if Woojin left. I’ll always be OT9.” Sorry if that’s a bad explanation
@@librarylynx650 at the beginning he just recognized them by their voices soo he really fell for Jimin 😂 now he really knows all of them and apprecia Jin,Rm and Jhope voice the most who they alot of people dont recognize them for that
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I think maybe he meant that originally, the group had rap line and was gonna debut as a hip hop group but then that direction changed and with the vocalists, Bighit decided to debut everyone as an idol group instead.
Once again the straight males are falling for Jimin left and right. Also, J-Hope and Jimin were dancers before joining the group and J-Hope already tried rapping before as you can see in his previous auditions for JYP and Jin joined the group as a visual so Jin had zero singing and dancing experience before joining the group as a trainee. And RM and Suga were cast as rappers and Jungkook and V were cast as singers.
@@uarefads2123 Taehyung was already a good singer when he joined which is why he auditioned for bighit. Jin was scouted while he was preparing himself as an actor.
jane I’m sure all that I had written was “just like the comment below”, it’s either auto correct or my phone is being haunted. I apologise. I never intended to write the part “go back to studying dimwit”. I’ll delete it asap.
BTS does NOT lipsync. That’s THE FACT! And Korean cinematography is next level. Thats why we were all disappointed at BBMA or American shows for that matter :))
But they also prerecord their performance so you hear them breath but it's actually their breathing when then prerecorded on stage 😂 It's just so it seems more real ^^
All Kpop idols need a backtrack even if it's quiet BTS tends to keep it quieter but it helps for when they're dancing or sick so they sound okay and don't hurt themselves or pass out
You're delusional and denying facts. I love bts, but people like you you make us look stupid. It's obvious that they lip sync at times just like almost any other artist. BTS has intense choreography and lip syncing/backing vocals is necessary. The fact that they use a lot of backing vocals doesn't mean they aren't talented, but so many armys think the mere suggestion of lip syncing is the biggest insult ever. 🙄
Lex C The tone in your reply makes us look bad more than anything. And no im not delusional. Yes every artist uses backing tracks and BTS does use them because of their choreo, but they still sing live on top of it and their backing tracks’ volume is much lower than others that I’ve listened to. When people talk about lipsync, or in the case of many criticisms towards BTS, they’re referring to artists just miming on stage and pretend to sing while its all the backing track. So thats what we are talking about here. As long as you can hear their live vocals on top of the tracks they’re not lipsyncing in that aspect. Will not go into all the technicality here, you get the gist. If you read my comment as its the biggest insult you might have brought over your pent up frustration from reading other comments maybe. Your comment itself is an insult and you never know whom you are talking to (maybe your mama’s age?) so at least be decent about it.
Let's not be ignorant and acknowledge that every K-Pop idol/group lipsyncs for performances. Denying it is useless especially with the technology we have today that can compare original audio and live audio. But, let's also acknowledge the fact that K-Pop idols NEED to lipsync due to the physical nature of their performances. Dancing while singing is really hard, everyone knows that, so it's common sense (especially in performances with a large audience) to lipsync for certain songs or at least have a small vocal track play.
MMA stands for Melon Music Awards which is an awards show, so they were one of the scheduled performers. Just to let you know it was actually Jungkook who lifted up his shirt and not Jimin😂. Also I think the camera guy knew that and when to shoot who obviously because of rehearsal and everything that Peyton said, but also because they probably watched previous performances of this song. BTS performed this song a couple of times before this major production, so I think that helped them have a clue on when to shoot who also. •P.S I would love to see a video where you analyze the difference in idols' singing voice and speaking voice because some of these K-pop idols can rap with an extremely deep voice while their speaking voice isn't that mellow.
Even though bts rapped a lot more at first they still had singers when they debuted as a group. They always had the singers... Its just that their music had more of a hip hop bad boy vibe to it. And back then Jungkook did rap more but he still did sing just in case you didn't know. So basically bts rapped and sung from their debut. Jin,jimin,v and jungkook were always singers🤗💜💜💜
Not actually. The actual BTS was consist of only rapper including rap monster, sepreme boi and one other member... Then things changed and instead of a rap group bang pd decided to debut a hip hop based idol group...
They didn't have the singers when the group was still in the formation stage. It began as all rappers. When it was decided to debut them as an idol group, several of the rappers left and they started bringing in singers. Then they trained some more before debuting.
Creativity 107, then please make it more understanding cuz it sounds like you're saying their pre-debut and how they were a rap group when they debuted as well.
What Justin said was correct, they were originally a group of rappers and then they decided to go in a different direction and added singers to the group. That's how they debuted as a 7 member group with 3 rappers and 4 singers.
@@bahnisikhadey5346 Or not, he did it at many concerts I guess. I think the purposeful one was when he smriked in the end. But it shut up the haters alright. IT SERVED ITS PURSPOSE
I actually love that the other guy is complimenting the camera work as some people compliment the boys (rightly so) for their hard work in preparing for these award shows but they don't realise all the while the boys are rehearsing the camera and lighting crews are also doing it with them making sure all these camera angles and the stage runs smoothly throughout the set! I appreciate everyone who works hard through award season in making the shows performances so amazing
„Fun“ fact: Jimin still does a lot more cardio before fake love performences because it‘s one of the hardest perfomances to sing and dance to...literally breathtaking for both sides;)
You can kind of tell if there is a back track based on the quality of the sound. In this case, in some parts, Jin chose to use backing track and Jimin didn’t.
if you mean towards the end of the song it kind of makes sense. the choreography comes to a stop and they're just walking. singing after dancing is MUCH harder than singing while dancing, which is already difficult. you can even see the other members breathing hard when they're on the floor edit: not saying that there was necessarily but it's plausible and valid if so
Yes! It's live. Jungkook said "Jin ates MR"(it's Koran expression. It means Jin's live singing is better than MR or Jin's live singing is as good as MR.)
Maya The “fake love, fake love” chorus throughout the song was the track but the whole performance never had the backing except for the rappers’ adlibs 👌
the parts with hard choero have backtrack not the whole songs and it wasnt just the fake love part, and the back track volume is very low there was times they stopped singing in the middle or their mic had problems u can hear the backtrack hardly.
Jin was singing live, his voice is very stable during live performances and he is popular for sounding exactly like the studio version. Jimin and jungkook always say that Jin eats CD’s to sound exactly the same lol
FYI, BTS never lip synchs, ever. They often have a back track, but they sing with it. Mics stop working, crowds are super loud, lots of things can and do go wrong, so they use a back track, but they always sing live. Jungkook's shirt lift is actually part of the choreo, so it was expected. Too bad you didn't wait for the end of the song before you cut away. Missed a great ending.
Dale La Dell They have the back track of them harmonizing Only! They have been accused of lip singing which is a bunch of crap. Suga at a live performance once stopped rapping just to prove they were not!
Actually Jimin 'lip syncs' in one of his songs because the dance is at that part way to hard to sing at the same time [not sure which one it was, I think serendipity] but even there he isn't actually 'lip syncing' because he doesn't even act as if he sings it and he never said he does. He still got a lot of shit for it what was just rude.
@@silumishirogane3829 I know what you mean, having seen him perform Serendipity live I mean it more like they have a backing track with some parts that have the original vocals to go on when he does the the hard parts of the choreo. Even then you can tell he tries to sing. Also there concerts go on for almost 3 hours and there setlist have cplose to 23 songs.... i think its sad when someone doesnt see BTS´s efforts.
I feel so sorry for JK! This was the main reason why JIMIN was afraid to lift his shirt for the very same reason! Everyone starts only talking about that rather then any other aspect of his performance which is exactly what is happening in this comment section! Hahaha!! Everyone is more concerned about JK's abs to be acknowledged more then anything else!!! Same thing happened when Bangtan Bomb released the BTS first Comeback performance of Fake Love at the BBMA's and in that comment section that was the only thing talked about concerning JK! But people did mention Jimin's amazing splits, st least the ones who noticed who weren't distracted by JK's abs being shown around the same time, and awesome powerful vocals while doing those popping moves which takes so much physical exertion.
So that poor guy can't enjoy that second of attention because people need to notice Jimin's splits? Why do we have to always take Jungkook for granted? Everytime someone prices Jungkook or even give him some kind of attention there's a whole bunch of army who object saying that we have to appreciate all of them and that's true, that comprehends Jungkook too so why can't we appreciate him a little more instead of taking for granted his talent just because he's the golden maknae and he's supposed to be good. He works hard too and he deserves attention for a lot more, not for some stomach show but in fact there are armys who still complain because Jungkook stole the show with his abs.
@kookie's smile - But my point I'm trying to make is that poor Kookie has talent too!! Not just his abs! That's rather a sad statement if you believe that's a way for kookie to attract attention! Don't you see! I don't want him to be reduced to that! Kookie has so much talent as an artist he doesn't need to just show his abs or make it so important that in this comment section no one seems to talk about his actual performance!! Everyone is more concerned that it's his abs being shown! I mean I agree that they should know who's abs it is but I believe after the first few comments they get the point! I really haven't noticed though, sadly, anyone talking about his vocals for instance. Everyone seems to be more concerned about his abs! My point is obviously JK's abs was a show stopper! Lol! But that's not my point! Why isn't his other talents his artistry mentioned in this comment section? Why is everyone's main concern Kookie's abs!! Hasn't anyone noticed his vocals? But yet nobody seems to mention anything but his abs! Hahaha!!!
@@abbiea1237 ok maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say in the other comment because I thought you were saying that people shouldn't pay so much attention to Jungkook's abs and since people usually don't praise him as much as they do with the other memebers i thought you were saying that even that little attention he got from showing his abs had to be taken away from him. But now I understand and I'm happy you appreciate Kookie as much as I do, also sorry if I came up as rude, it really wasn't my intention also because english isn't my first language so I may have chosen the wrong words to express what I wanted to say.
This is so different from your other reactions. Cool. It’s actually Jungkook that lifted his shirt lol. It’s am awaiting part of the song 😉 You guys should listen to their talking voice singing voice separately...cool and interesting idea 😊💜👍🏼
True..and it would be interesting if he could find some clips where they use their individual regional dialect(satoori). I find that their voice changes a bit when they do.
Jungkook has a very deep voice and sings pretty high, Jimin's voice and singing voice actually makes sense together. Taehyung talks deep and smooth. Suga speaking voice is almost bass, might be he sings baritone and took lessons and in 2021 went from not able to sing to being amazing. J-Hope's speaking voice, singing voice and rap all sound pretty much the same. RM is a deep baritone, and he can sing so don't let the videos of him singing horrible fool you.
It takes a lot of practice to sing live while dancing while you need to sound stable. Some group's train by doing planking while singing and for jungkook I know he jogs/run on a threadmill while singing.
This is hands down the best most genuine reaction I've seen from the point of view of a Vocal coach and a Director. I didn't mind the pauses and explanations or adds I freaking loved this
The MMA’s (Melon Music Awards) is an award show 😂 even though it isn’t even a concert, I think it was one of the best live performances they have done. I can’t wait for part 2! Also I do think it would be interesting for you to compare natural talking voices to singing voices 💜 보라해 💜
Bts doesn't lip sync, they always sing live because you can hear them breathing if you listen closely. When they rehearse their songs, they don't lip sync and does it live/real and even in their dance rehearsals too.
8:36 obviously Jungkook, Jin and Suga's voices are deeper when they talk. Jimin still has the sweet tone of his singing voice, V's talking voice is surprisingly just a _little bit_ higher pitched imo. RM and J-Hope pretty much still sound the same. See their interviews if you want to find out more :) here are some of the best ones th-cam.com/video/pLxoq7mcsg0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/SpxmQMDahiU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/UyQ9KRvNSjA/w-d-xo.html
MMA is short for MELON MUSIC AWARDS, which they’ve performed for many times along with variety different groups, bands and solo artists have performed.... @1:04 That’s JungKook btw in his individual designed mask which all the members have @1:17 Sorta of, it was the opening Intro for fake love which was shown through the camera, they performed three different songs with three different choreographies Fake Love + Airplane Pt 2 + IDOL @2:01 JIMIN / @2:19 JungKook(left) and J-Hope (right) / @2:34 RM / @3:05 SUGA / @3:17 V @3:59 Jin, also to your friend Bighit has whole facility / staff that works with all that whenever they have live shows like this one including when they’re on world tours @10:33 I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that how they do it over there, they’re culture and how they do things is different from western culture and they do allot of dance, vocal, and appeal stage rehearsals hours before any live show @11:24 Hahahaha, let me tell almost every time that part comes the cameraman ends up missing the first time he does it than catches the the second time because Jungkook does it twice
I never laughed so hard at someone's reaction to Jungkooks shirt lift. God he's right it would have been funny had Jungkook just decided not to lift his shirt.
"They should talk instead of singing the whole time" Okay so, the MMA's is like a competition but if you look at actual concerts, they have breaks and talk with their fans. You're welcome XD
I'm living for you two being so open minded and analyzing all the different aspects about the performance beyond the singing and dancing to the stage and the lights etc. You're clearly seeing it all for what it is, I really enjoyed watching this for you're authentic with your interest(s), thank you 💜
Amazing thing is, BTS never lip syncs 😂 Even if they try to, they really can't, they're just that talented. Also, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the recorded steps at the beginning of when Tae appears. Btw, you asked if that was a voice crack when Jimin was singing, he purposely makes his voice more whinier at certain parts, especially for this song, and it was JK who lifted his shirt xD Also, the BigHit Staff are like family to BTS, so they know BTS well and most likely don't need to study their faces xD
jimin does not choose to make his voice crack. there are plenty of videos of him crying after concerts back stage talking to his managers and brothers telling them his voice cracked and it ruined the performance but everyone is so supportive staff, group members and all. Theres also a video of jungkook trying to help him with it kind of giving him lessons, and later on telling the camera he wishes he could help jimin but hes not in a place where he could receive the vocal lessons. he has just learned to live with his voice cracked happening once in a while. but he definitely does not choose to do it. his voice is beautiful with a voice crack or not but it's sad because you can always tell he gets very self conscious when the voice crack happens. I've watched too many episodes of everything BTS.
@@lbeezy9416 There's only been one where he was upset backstage from what I've seen, and that was not a voice crack, nothing about it was related to a voice crack, unless you see voice cracks in a different way. Ofc Jimin has always had his insecurities about his voice, and ofc, the fact that he practically lived in the practice room once from how much he practiced. However, it is different now, it seems he's a lot more confident in himself. And if what is seen as a voice crack for you, continuously happening in every single live performance, why would Jimim purposely do it? You've heard his voice cracks before, right? It's not what he did in this performance. If you know BTS so well, you'd know that literally every ARMY knows about Jimin and his voice insecurities, you'd also know the difference between Jimin's voice cracks and adlibs, yeah?
The way he said "Jimin right now"... I understand!!!! I went through the whole group before I found out he was my bias. I still go through the whole crushing on a member every few weeks to go back to Jimin 😂
The memebers name: Kim Namjoon ( RM ) forth oldest Kim Seokjin ( Jin ) Oldest Min Yoongi ( Suga ) second oldest Jung Hoseok ( J- Hope ) third oldest Park Jimin ( Jimin ) fifth oldest Kim Taehyung ( V ) sixth oldest Jeon Jungkook ( Jungkook ) youngest ( Maknae) So basically the younger people need to call the older people 'Hyung'. Maknae means youngest if I am not wrong. So basically the Maknae Line are Jimin, V and Jungkook. Hyung line are Suga , Jin , RM and J-Hope. Rappers are RM , Suga and J-Hope Vocalists are Jimin , Jin , V and Jungkook. I hope this helps you! ( BTS stands for Bulletproof Boy Scouts in Korean)
well I will add some unhelpful lines here: chaotic crackhead line: jin and tae, loud line: jin, jhope and tae (suga when he is hyped) evil line/ not in a bad way (jk, jimin and tae ), scardy cat line: jin, jhope and jimin, savage line: jin, suga and RM. whats wrong with him line jin and tae (sometimes jk), cutie line: jimin, jin and tae.
Jimin is my bias too! Random note, I grew up with a dad who was in video production (I ran camera for a variety of events) as well as a musician who was in a band so i'm able to follow both of you guys and your comments. Love it!
The lifting the shirt is part of the dance. That's why they know when to zoom in 😂 everything is planned. But they are the most amazing people in the world. BTS is my life. I love them so much
The insights are refreshing. This made realise a bit better just how much is going on behind the scenes. Thank you for all those working behind the scenes
The cue on Jungkook’s abs started when they debuted/performed this song|album|choreography on BBMA. I believe they also practice with the camera angles before the actual performance|award show.
i don't think jin used back track at 12:25 though it did seemed like. That' just how his vocals are always because I have listened to his live singing many times. His vocals are one of the most stable even when dancing.
you would be surprised that their talking voice and singing voice are the same, except rap line when they sing they sound bit different but they rap with their talking voices
Omg the performance is legendary I can't wait for part 2 and I am even more excited to see you do a video of their way of talking vs their signing 😍 btw it was veeeery interesting hearing your friend's POV of the shooting!!
absolutely love how you tried to explain to your friend about every single things about bts every once in a while hahah love the energy!! your reactions vids to bts are always so fresh to see
YES! YES YES YES. Everything about this video I LOVE. You guys have so much to say and it’s so original! I’m completely awed by the directing commentary about camera angles and cues. So interesting! Thank you for doing this reaction.
Came here from a binge watch on BTS MMA shows as a BTS fan, the insight you guys give on MMA camera shots and BTS vocals are very enlightening. Cool stuff!
9:40 yeah they have a point but during rehearsals idols wear these like straps and on the front they have a big tag with their name written so while dancing the director can see the names of the idols
The cameramen are well versed in the routine and the best I think in the business. If you think about American music shows it is clear that we are 10 years behind in technique. If the group stomps their feet the camera guy will bounce the camera for effect. Waiting for part 2.
There's a video somewhere of Jin warming up and it's an amazing video because his voice sounds like he isn't warming up as if he'd been warmed up for hours and it just proves how amazing he has gotten from not really being able to sing before debut!
How did they know that ?Because BTS member Jungkook introduce his ABS when this song first came out. And we fans, camera man, everyone, wait for it every time they sing this song LOL.
I really like watching people reacting to bts bcs i'm really proud of bts and want to know other people reactions to their achievement so yeah even if u guys sometimes confused about the members... Overall its nice...
the story behind this performance actually ties to a story that started all the way from 2015. can you imagine how absolutely excited us, the fans who have been following the story veryyy closely since the beginning, and then to get a long performance that stories it all out for us. we were freaking the absolute crap out. twitter was crazy that day.
We want to see that! I am loving this reaction. The voice and cinematography breakdowns learning so much. Please more will be checking more out of this channel for sure!
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You should definitely react to the talking voice and their singing voice
Justin Burke Please react to cheryl porter’s vocal listen with james charles!
Hope you include the ending of the Fake Love performance at the beginning of part 2 and don't just skip to the second song!
Can't you like upload the pt2 today itself? 😄😄😄
You have to show your friend the videos in GCF by Jungkook. He does the filming, editing...everything 😍
That could be so cool 😍
yesssssss
Yessss please. I would love to see his reaction to G.C.F
Yessss
YAASS
That was Jungkook that lifted up his shirt
yes and he does that a lot
Allyson Wolf right like he knows BTS at this point idk why he doesn’t know which one is which lol.
@@MilotusLucifera i want him to do it again LOL😂😍
why does he never lift his pants-
@@Aaa-ss4zr lol😂😂😂
You cant lift pants😂
12:43 there's literally a video of jungkook singing on the treadmill so that his voice is stable in performances
where's the video
Lolololol didn't expect that. 🤣🤣🤣
Where is the video???
Comment the link
LMAO
"Jimin lifts up shirt"
THAT'S JUNGKOOK'S PERFECT ABS JIMIN HAS GREY HAIR aHHHHHHH
the camera ops are cheeky bastards
Lol it was just a joke jasmine chill 0w0
@@lHypnos-rk8vv No i meant that they captured that shot directly on time lmao
@@lHypnos-rk8vv cheeky bastards is not an insult.
Ikr I was like "but.... but that's jungkook
Them : the audience know all of the lyrics
Thats a whole bts concert on an award show
lmao this being a year alr and i got 1.2k lmao
dont fans know the words in American shows too? why were they surprised that the fans knew the words to the song lol.
@@berttian5908 yep😂
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7:23
"who's your favorite?" "Jimin at the moment"
each and every ot7 strugle
but he still doesnt know who is who I don't know if he is just a fan or a clout baiter
@@librarylynx650 he marked Jimin at the beginning, though, along with Jin and V and RM. if you mean the part he mentions jimin raising his shirt when it was jungkook, he was laughing his head off and wasn't paying attention, that could be why he made the mistake.
what does ot7 mean?
phan swiftie13 it means “one true 7” kinda meaning that you like/Stan all seven members the same or they’re all your favorite. So it might be like “who’s your bias?”.. “I’m OT7”. It works with other groups too, like “I don’t care if Woojin left. I’ll always be OT9.” Sorry if that’s a bad explanation
@@librarylynx650 at the beginning he just recognized them by their voices soo he really fell for Jimin 😂 now he really knows all of them and apprecia Jin,Rm and Jhope voice the most who they alot of people dont recognize them for that
You should react to bts interviews probably the ones during award shows or promotions if you want to know their voice when talking
bts being extra af in america
Oshin Victor their voices when they speak english to their voices when they speak korean so it depends
the grammy interview is really nice imo
but I think they do sound different speaking in English than Korean, so he should do both if you ask me
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I was dying on the inside when he got their backstories wrong lmfao
same
Fr doe
I started scrolling in the comments to see if anyone else noticed
I think maybe he meant that originally, the group had rap line and was gonna debut as a hip hop group but then that direction changed and with the vocalists, Bighit decided to debut everyone as an idol group instead.
I let it pass since I know what he meant xD
“Jimin lifts up the shirt”
Jungkook: “am I a joke to you?”
sisi rat I know right
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID, I CAME TO THE COMMENTS TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE NOTICED IT
sisi rat that’s what I was thinking
I swear this man only sees Jimin
ikr like eXcUsE mE😂
Once again the straight males are falling for Jimin left and right. Also, J-Hope and Jimin were dancers before joining the group and J-Hope already tried rapping before as you can see in his previous auditions for JYP and Jin joined the group as a visual so Jin had zero singing and dancing experience before joining the group as a trainee. And RM and Suga were cast as rappers and Jungkook and V were cast as singers.
Siya Shokeen even V didn’t have any singing or dancing experience.
@@uarefads2123 Taehyung was already a good singer when he joined which is why he auditioned for bighit. Jin was scouted while he was preparing himself as an actor.
Wait wtf I never wrote that.
jane I’m sure all that I had written was “just like the comment below”, it’s either auto correct or my phone is being haunted. I apologise. I never intended to write the part “go back to studying dimwit”. I’ll delete it asap.
jane eh?
BTS does NOT lipsync. That’s THE FACT!
And Korean cinematography is next level. Thats why we were all disappointed at BBMA or American shows for that matter :))
But they also prerecord their performance so you hear them breath but it's actually their breathing when then prerecorded on stage 😂 It's just so it seems more real ^^
All Kpop idols need a backtrack even if it's quiet BTS tends to keep it quieter but it helps for when they're dancing or sick so they sound okay and don't hurt themselves or pass out
You're delusional and denying facts. I love bts, but people like you you make us look stupid. It's obvious that they lip sync at times just like almost any other artist. BTS has intense choreography and lip syncing/backing vocals is necessary. The fact that they use a lot of backing vocals doesn't mean they aren't talented, but so many armys think the mere suggestion of lip syncing is the biggest insult ever. 🙄
Lex C The tone in your reply makes us look bad more than anything. And no im not delusional. Yes every artist uses backing tracks and BTS does use them because of their choreo, but they still sing live on top of it and their backing tracks’ volume is much lower than others that I’ve listened to. When people talk about lipsync, or in the case of many criticisms towards BTS, they’re referring to artists just miming on stage and pretend to sing while its all the backing track. So thats what we are talking about here. As long as you can hear their live vocals on top of the tracks they’re not lipsyncing in that aspect. Will not go into all the technicality here, you get the gist. If you read my comment as its the biggest insult you might have brought over your pent up frustration from reading other comments maybe. Your comment itself is an insult and you never know whom you are talking to (maybe your mama’s age?) so at least be decent about it.
Let's not be ignorant and acknowledge that every K-Pop idol/group lipsyncs for performances. Denying it is useless especially with the technology we have today that can compare original audio and live audio.
But, let's also acknowledge the fact that K-Pop idols NEED to lipsync due to the physical nature of their performances. Dancing while singing is really hard, everyone knows that, so it's common sense (especially in performances with a large audience) to lipsync for certain songs or at least have a small vocal track play.
MMA stands for Melon Music Awards which is an awards show, so they were one of the scheduled performers.
Just to let you know it was actually Jungkook who lifted up his shirt and not Jimin😂. Also I think the camera guy knew that and when to shoot who obviously because of rehearsal and everything that Peyton said, but also because they probably watched previous performances of this song. BTS performed this song a couple of times before this major production, so I think that helped them have a clue on when to shoot who also.
•P.S I would love to see a video where you analyze the difference in idols' singing voice and speaking voice because some of these K-pop idols can rap with an extremely deep voice while their speaking voice isn't that mellow.
Chadora lundi yes, the camera guy knows it from the rehearsal, but maybe he knows it because JK does that in the MV too.
Felix from skz comes to my mind, his voice can get soo deep ~
YoUNeEdMiLk :0 ohhhhh yesssss, true!!
@@Nellywritesandbites That's exactly who I was thinking about😂
@@caratnctzen7488 Yes I agree. That's what I mean by he's seen the performance and the choreography before.
Even though bts rapped a lot more at first they still had singers when they debuted as a group. They always had the singers... Its just that their music had more of a hip hop bad boy vibe to it. And back then Jungkook did rap more but he still did sing just in case you didn't know. So basically bts rapped and sung from their debut. Jin,jimin,v and jungkook were always singers🤗💜💜💜
Not actually. The actual BTS was consist of only rapper including rap monster, sepreme boi and one other member... Then things changed and instead of a rap group bang pd decided to debut a hip hop based idol group...
They didn't have the singers when the group was still in the formation stage. It began as all rappers. When it was decided to debut them as an idol group, several of the rappers left and they started bringing in singers. Then they trained some more before debuting.
@@aimasnirfa2088 I not saying that... I was saying the 7 members of bts when they debuted they always had singers and rappers 💜💜
Creativity 107, then please make it more understanding cuz it sounds like you're saying their pre-debut and how they were a rap group when they debuted as well.
What Justin said was correct, they were originally a group of rappers and then they decided to go in a different direction and added singers to the group. That's how they debuted as a 7 member group with 3 rappers and 4 singers.
They never use backing vocals for main singing or rapping and Suga proved this when he forgot lyrics at a concert and only the instrumental played 😆
He did that purposefully
@@bahnisikhadey5346 Or not, he did it at many concerts I guess. I think the purposeful one was when he smriked in the end. But it shut up the haters alright. IT SERVED ITS PURSPOSE
They don't lipsync
He didn’t forget I don’t think he did it on purpose to prove haters wring
He didn’t forget them. He did that on purpose to shut haters up
"Do you have any favorites?"
"Jimin, right now"
I love that he acknowledges it might change it does change every day for me lol
Lol, at 12:22 jin sings so well live that he thought he was relying fully on the backing track
I actually love that the other guy is complimenting the camera work as some people compliment the boys (rightly so) for their hard work in preparing for these award shows but they don't realise all the while the boys are rehearsing the camera and lighting crews are also doing it with them making sure all these camera angles and the stage runs smoothly throughout the set! I appreciate everyone who works hard through award season in making the shows performances so amazing
„Fun“ fact: Jimin still does a lot more cardio before fake love performences because it‘s one of the hardest perfomances to sing and dance to...literally breathtaking for both sides;)
Does anyone else notice when jimin has good vocals live he says theres no backtrack but when jin does amazing he says here come the backtracking.
You can kind of tell if there is a back track based on the quality of the sound. In this case, in some parts, Jin chose to use backing track and Jimin didn’t.
You can tell there is a back track bc if they change their tones then it wont match the track. So its obvious.
if you mean towards the end of the song it kind of makes sense. the choreography comes to a stop and they're just walking. singing after dancing is MUCH harder than singing while dancing, which is already difficult. you can even see the other members breathing hard when they're on the floor
edit: not saying that there was necessarily but it's plausible and valid if so
"Jimin lifts up his shirt "
ARMYs: *triggered*
My gawd! Agreed!
lmfaoo literally me
that wasn't the back ground vocal JIN is just always so stable to be real!
Yes! It's live. Jungkook said "Jin ates MR"(it's Koran expression. It means Jin's live singing is better than MR or Jin's live singing is as good as MR.)
Yay. I found a comment about Jin.
there was a backtrack for all vocalists but they were singing over it the whole time.
Maya The “fake love, fake love” chorus throughout the song was the track but the whole performance never had the backing except for the rappers’ adlibs 👌
the parts with hard choero have backtrack not the whole songs and it wasnt just the fake love part, and the back track volume is very low there was times they stopped singing in the middle or their mic had problems u can hear the backtrack hardly.
Jin was singing live, his voice is very stable during live performances and he is popular for sounding exactly like the studio version. Jimin and jungkook always say that Jin eats CD’s to sound exactly the same lol
Totally agree.
FYI, BTS never lip synchs, ever. They often have a back track, but they sing with it. Mics stop working, crowds are super loud, lots of things can and do go wrong, so they use a back track, but they always sing live. Jungkook's shirt lift is actually part of the choreo, so it was expected. Too bad you didn't wait for the end of the song before you cut away. Missed a great ending.
Dale La Dell
They have the back track of them harmonizing Only!
They have been accused of lip singing which is a bunch of crap. Suga at a live performance once stopped rapping just to prove they were not!
I know, this guy is pissing me off
Actually Jimin 'lip syncs' in one of his songs because the dance is at that part way to hard to sing at the same time [not sure which one it was, I think serendipity] but even there he isn't actually 'lip syncing' because he doesn't even act as if he sings it and he never said he does. He still got a lot of shit for it what was just rude.
@@silumishirogane3829 I know what you mean, having seen him perform Serendipity live I mean it more like they have a backing track with some parts that have the original vocals to go on when he does the the hard parts of the choreo. Even then you can tell he tries to sing. Also there concerts go on for almost 3 hours and there setlist have cplose to 23 songs.... i think its sad when someone doesnt see BTS´s efforts.
Dale La Dell too right BTS are talented enough to need to lip sync
11:41”And Jimin going to lifts his shirt”
Jungkook:”bruh thats me👀👀”
🤣
lmfaoo
I was like but thats kookie 🥺
I CAN IMAGINE HIM SAYING THAT BAHAHA-
I feel so sorry for JK! This was the main reason why JIMIN was afraid to lift his shirt for the very same reason! Everyone starts only talking about that rather then any other aspect of his performance which is exactly what is happening in this comment section! Hahaha!! Everyone is more concerned about JK's abs to be acknowledged more then anything else!!! Same thing happened when Bangtan Bomb released the BTS first Comeback performance of Fake Love at the BBMA's and in that comment section that was the only thing talked about concerning JK! But people did mention Jimin's amazing splits, st least the ones who noticed who weren't distracted by JK's abs being shown around the same time, and awesome powerful vocals while doing those popping moves which takes so much physical exertion.
Abbiea123 How could I possibly NOT notice his amazing splits!!🤩
I actually noticed the splits even before the shirt-lift.😂
So that poor guy can't enjoy that second of attention because people need to notice Jimin's splits? Why do we have to always take Jungkook for granted? Everytime someone prices Jungkook or even give him some kind of attention there's a whole bunch of army who object saying that we have to appreciate all of them and that's true, that comprehends Jungkook too so why can't we appreciate him a little more instead of taking for granted his talent just because he's the golden maknae and he's supposed to be good. He works hard too and he deserves attention for a lot more, not for some stomach show but in fact there are armys who still complain because Jungkook stole the show with his abs.
@kookie's smile - But my point I'm trying to make is that poor Kookie has talent too!! Not just his abs! That's rather a sad statement if you believe that's a way for kookie to attract attention! Don't you see! I don't want him to be reduced to that! Kookie has so much talent as an artist he doesn't need to just show his abs or make it so important that in this comment section no one seems to talk about his actual performance!! Everyone is more concerned that it's his abs being shown! I mean I agree that they should know who's abs it is but I believe after the first few comments they get the point! I really haven't noticed though, sadly, anyone talking about his vocals for instance. Everyone seems to be more concerned about his abs! My point is obviously JK's abs was a show stopper! Lol! But that's not my point! Why isn't his other talents his artistry mentioned in this comment section? Why is everyone's main concern Kookie's abs!! Hasn't anyone noticed his vocals? But yet nobody seems to mention anything but his abs! Hahaha!!!
@@abbiea1237 ok maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say in the other comment because I thought you were saying that people shouldn't pay so much attention to Jungkook's abs and since people usually don't praise him as much as they do with the other memebers i thought you were saying that even that little attention he got from showing his abs had to be taken away from him. But now I understand and I'm happy you appreciate Kookie as much as I do, also sorry if I came up as rude, it really wasn't my intention also because english isn't my first language so I may have chosen the wrong words to express what I wanted to say.
This is so different from your other reactions. Cool. It’s actually Jungkook that lifted his shirt lol. It’s am awaiting part of the song 😉
You guys should listen to their talking voice singing voice separately...cool and interesting idea 😊💜👍🏼
True..and it would be interesting if he could find some clips where they use their individual regional dialect(satoori). I find that their voice changes a bit when they do.
I think he saw that, but since always he is talking about jimin he just blurted out jimin
@@Tharushi_Anthony yeah, in his mind just jimin jimin and jimin. well jimin is collecting all men 😂😂😂
He talks more about Jungkook tho
Not really Jungkook had most fanboyd
Jungkook has a very deep voice and sings pretty high, Jimin's voice and singing voice actually makes sense together. Taehyung talks deep and smooth. Suga speaking voice is almost bass, might be he sings baritone and took lessons and in 2021 went from not able to sing to being amazing. J-Hope's speaking voice, singing voice and rap all sound pretty much the same. RM is a deep baritone, and he can sing so don't let the videos of him singing horrible fool you.
justin: and jimin is gonna lift up his shirt, QUEUE
jungkook: a-am i joke to you?
jungkook’s abs: you know what, we work hard 😤
It takes a lot of practice to sing live while dancing while you need to sound stable. Some group's train by doing planking while singing and for jungkook I know he jogs/run on a threadmill while singing.
Jin and jungkook are the most stable on stage don’t be shocked😂😂
Jhope too!
@@maddiewang3347 yess jhope
Your friend should react to their performance on korean tv show bcs i bet he will impressed with the camera work 😂
Dionysus, definitely.
Yass he is...cameraman of korea..they are the best....and im dissapointed when bts perform at bbams because of the camera work
"You can also hear the imperfections in I-"
Jungkook: sorry what was that?
You saying that they are not doing lipsync is so nice
Thank you for this, to show them haters that BTS DOESNT LIPSYNC
it was jungkook who lifted his shirt, not jimin. and it was part of the choreo to lift his shirt so thats how they knew
This is hands down the best most genuine reaction I've seen from the point of view of a Vocal coach and a Director. I didn't mind the pauses and explanations or adds I freaking loved this
The MMA’s (Melon Music Awards) is an award show 😂 even though it isn’t even a concert, I think it was one of the best live performances they have done. I can’t wait for part 2! Also I do think it would be interesting for you to compare natural talking voices to singing voices 💜 보라해 💜
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(Mama Music Awards)i think 😂
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MAMA = Mnet Asian Music Awards
MMA = Melon Music Awards
@@marixiaki 👌🏻
When he said “lift shirt BOOM brilliant brilliant” I felt that
Bts doesn't lip sync, they always sing live because you can hear them breathing if you listen closely. When they rehearse their songs, they don't lip sync and does it live/real and even in their dance rehearsals too.
8:36 obviously Jungkook, Jin and Suga's voices are deeper when they talk. Jimin still has the sweet tone of his singing voice, V's talking voice is surprisingly just a _little bit_ higher pitched imo. RM and J-Hope pretty much still sound the same.
See their interviews if you want to find out more :) here are some of the best ones
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I love the way you talk about them to your friend, it makes me really happy.
Natasha Zamudio me too I love hearing army praising BTS to other people
Yes!!!! I would love to see a comparison of their talking and singing voices! I really hope you do that soon!
Is he so whipped by Jimin that he doesn't even know if its Jungkook? Bruh, Lol.
-2:45 "Jimin's going to lift up his shirt "
Me: XD That's not Jimin lol, that's Jungkook XD
Jungkook *lifts up his shirt*
Me and Payton: BRILLIANT 👏👏
Loved this 😆💜
MMA is short for MELON MUSIC AWARDS, which they’ve performed for many times along with variety different groups, bands and solo artists have performed....
@1:04 That’s JungKook btw in his individual designed mask which all the members have
@1:17 Sorta of, it was the opening Intro for fake love which was shown through the camera, they performed three different songs with three different choreographies Fake Love + Airplane Pt 2 + IDOL
@2:01 JIMIN / @2:19 JungKook(left) and J-Hope (right) / @2:34 RM / @3:05 SUGA / @3:17 V
@3:59 Jin, also to your friend Bighit has whole facility / staff that works with all that whenever they have live shows like this one including when they’re on world tours
@10:33 I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think that how they do it over there, they’re culture and how they do things is different from western culture and they do allot of dance, vocal, and appeal stage rehearsals hours before any live show
@11:24 Hahahaha, let me tell almost every time that part comes the cameraman ends up missing the first time he does it than catches the the second time because Jungkook does it twice
I never laughed so hard at someone's reaction to Jungkooks shirt lift. God he's right it would have been funny had Jungkook just decided not to lift his shirt.
Let's be honest every ARMY was triggered at least once during this reaction
"They should talk instead of singing the whole time"
Okay so, the MMA's is like a competition but if you look at actual concerts, they have breaks and talk with their fans. You're welcome XD
I'm living for you two being so open minded and analyzing all the different aspects about the performance beyond the singing and dancing to the stage and the lights etc. You're clearly seeing it all for what it is, I really enjoyed watching this for you're authentic with your interest(s), thank you 💜
Amazing thing is, BTS never lip syncs 😂 Even if they try to, they really can't, they're just that talented. Also, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the recorded steps at the beginning of when Tae appears. Btw, you asked if that was a voice crack when Jimin was singing, he purposely makes his voice more whinier at certain parts, especially for this song, and it was JK who lifted his shirt xD Also, the BigHit Staff are like family to BTS, so they know BTS well and most likely don't need to study their faces xD
srsly jimin
Jimin does the voice break as a stylistic choice.
jimin does not choose to make his voice crack. there are plenty of videos of him crying after concerts back stage talking to his managers and brothers telling them his voice cracked and it ruined the performance but everyone is so supportive staff, group members and all. Theres also a video of jungkook trying to help him with it kind of giving him lessons, and later on telling the camera he wishes he could help jimin but hes not in a place where he could receive the vocal lessons. he has just learned to live with his voice cracked happening once in a while. but he definitely does not choose to do it. his voice is beautiful with a voice crack or not but it's sad because you can always tell he gets very self conscious when the voice crack happens. I've watched too many episodes of everything BTS.
@@lbeezy9416 There's only been one where he was upset backstage from what I've seen, and that was not a voice crack, nothing about it was related to a voice crack, unless you see voice cracks in a different way. Ofc Jimin has always had his insecurities about his voice, and ofc, the fact that he practically lived in the practice room once from how much he practiced. However, it is different now, it seems he's a lot more confident in himself. And if what is seen as a voice crack for you, continuously happening in every single live performance, why would Jimim purposely do it? You've heard his voice cracks before, right? It's not what he did in this performance. If you know BTS so well, you'd know that literally every ARMY knows about Jimin and his voice insecurities, you'd also know the difference between Jimin's voice cracks and adlibs, yeah?
junkook pulls his shirt in fake love MV and in performances. its part of the dance.
was i'm the only one who got triggged when he kept saying Jimin liftet up is shirt when it was Junkook?
The way he said "Jimin right now"... I understand!!!! I went through the whole group before I found out he was my bias. I still go through the whole crushing on a member every few weeks to go back to Jimin 😂
Jungkook's abs is one of the highlights and a famous part of the choreography. Everyone's looking forward to it so they have to put emphasis on that 😉
The memebers name:
Kim Namjoon ( RM ) forth oldest
Kim Seokjin ( Jin ) Oldest
Min Yoongi ( Suga ) second oldest
Jung Hoseok ( J- Hope ) third oldest
Park Jimin ( Jimin ) fifth oldest
Kim Taehyung ( V ) sixth oldest
Jeon Jungkook ( Jungkook ) youngest ( Maknae)
So basically the younger people need to call the older people 'Hyung'.
Maknae means youngest if I am not wrong.
So basically the Maknae Line are Jimin, V and Jungkook.
Hyung line are Suga , Jin , RM and J-Hope.
Rappers are RM , Suga and J-Hope
Vocalists are Jimin , Jin , V and Jungkook.
I hope this helps you!
( BTS stands for Bulletproof Boy Scouts in Korean)
well I will add some unhelpful lines here: chaotic crackhead line: jin and tae, loud line: jin, jhope and tae (suga when he is hyped) evil line/ not in a bad way (jk, jimin and tae ), scardy cat line: jin, jhope and jimin, savage line: jin, suga and RM. whats wrong with him line jin and tae (sometimes jk), cutie line: jimin, jin and tae.
OT7 Lover Maknae means he’s the baby and leader of BTS.
Btw lead singer
Dragon’s Tail Namjoon is the leader
Dragon’s Tail no he's main singer. Chimchim is Lead singer
I've watched this performance 100x n never tire of it! MAMA is the top asian music award.
Kids Email lol this performance is from MMA though. MAMA is Mnet Asian Music Awards and MMA is Melon Music Awards.
Kids Email me too
“Jimin lifted his shirt”
Me: Huh? Wait, am I heard it wrongly?? Isn't it Jungkook????
But the reaction is same when I saw Jungkook abs😂😂 I'm dying
Jimin is my bias too!
Random note, I grew up with a dad who was in video production (I ran camera for a variety of events) as well as a musician who was in a band so i'm able to follow both of you guys and your comments. Love it!
They missed the ending. I really wanted them to comment on it !
It wlil probably be in part 2
The lifting the shirt is part of the dance. That's why they know when to zoom in 😂 everything is planned. But they are the most amazing people in the world. BTS is my life. I love them so much
The MMA IS ACTUALLY AN AWARD SHOW 🙂💜
My heart burst and exploded at 6:58
And they know that ‘shirtlift’ because they’ve literally done it thousands of times and it’s practically iconic
The insights are refreshing. This made realise a bit better just how much is going on behind the scenes. Thank you for all those working behind the scenes
The cue on Jungkook’s abs started when they debuted/performed this song|album|choreography on BBMA. I believe they also practice with the camera angles before the actual performance|award show.
Yes this performance was iconic hope y'all upload part 2 soon
Also i was first ok bye💜
i don't think jin used back track at 12:25 though it did seemed like. That' just how his vocals are always because I have listened to his live singing many times. His vocals are one of the most stable even when dancing.
Jungkook was the one who lifted up his shirt 😂
This was so FUN to watch! Thank you both for such a great video and content!
you would be surprised that their talking voice and singing voice are the same, except rap line when they sing they sound bit different but they rap with their talking voices
Omg the performance is legendary I can't wait for part 2 and I am even more excited to see you do a video of their way of talking vs their signing 😍 btw it was veeeery interesting hearing your friend's POV of the shooting!!
Btw: Jungkook is the one who lifted his shirt. It is choreographed into the dance so the camera man already knew.
absolutely love how you tried to explain to your friend about every single things about bts every once in a while hahah love the energy!! your reactions vids to bts are always so fresh to see
YES! YES YES YES. Everything about this video I LOVE. You guys have so much to say and it’s so original! I’m completely awed by the directing commentary about camera angles and cues. So interesting! Thank you for doing this reaction.
i love how everyone says the same thing about V's voice 😂💜
BTS is a group whom never lip-sync. Glad you found out in the middle of the clip
Also the person who lifted the shirt is Jungkook, not Jimin.
^ . ^
MMA stands for Melon Music Awards its a award show in Korea similar to like the American Music Awards in America
Came here from a binge watch on BTS MMA shows as a BTS fan, the insight you guys give on MMA camera shots and BTS vocals are very enlightening. Cool stuff!
9:40 yeah they have a point but during rehearsals idols wear these like straps and on the front they have a big tag with their name written so while dancing the director can see the names of the idols
I’m so glad you didn’t say your camera was dying
Candy 🤭😆😂
It’s was actually jungkook who lifted his shirt up
The cameramen are well versed in the routine and the best I think in the business. If you think about American music shows it is clear that we are 10 years behind in technique. If the group stomps their feet the camera guy will bounce the camera for effect. Waiting for part 2.
i’m new to your channel and i’m absolutely loving how you fanboy over bts. I love how you know so much about them💜💜
There's a video somewhere of Jin warming up and it's an amazing video because his voice sounds like he isn't warming up as if he'd been warmed up for hours and it just proves how amazing he has gotten from not really being able to sing before debut!
The shirt lift is also part of the actual choreography 😂😂 camera guys just doing a grate job catching it 😂😂
" Who's your favorite? Now Jimin"
But idk who Jimin is.....
That was Jungkook not Jimin 😉
Jungkook's shirt lift is part of the choreo
Isnt it amazing😍
it's so cute how justin explains bts to his friend x). it reminds me how I was when introducing bts to my friends and family
Bts turns an award show into their own show.
actually, they knew that Jungkook would have lifted his shirt because is a part of the choreography, so it happens all the times
"Jimin lifts up shirt"
IM DEAD
NOT JIMIN, ITS JUNGKOOK
How did they know that ?Because BTS member Jungkook introduce his ABS when this song first came out. And we fans, camera man, everyone, wait for it every time they sing this song LOL.
Except for that one performance where the stylist gave him a shirt with like a belt thing so that he couldnt lift up his shirt T_T
Brooo keep making these videos. Even if i already saw this, i watch it again just for the reaction but mostly because bts is sick 💕
I really like watching people reacting to bts bcs i'm really proud of bts and want to know other people reactions to their achievement so yeah even if u guys sometimes confused about the members... Overall its nice...
When jimin dances it like he is in another Dimension Alone ✅🔥
9:11 me screaming on top of my lungs
Why you sad?
I don't know! Nan molla!😂💜
911?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i really really love BTS but why are Justin and his friends/family all so attractive😭
the story behind this performance actually ties to a story that started all the way from 2015. can you imagine how absolutely excited us, the fans who have been following the story veryyy closely since the beginning, and then to get a long performance that stories it all out for us. we were freaking the absolute crap out. twitter was crazy that day.
We want to see that! I am loving this reaction. The voice and cinematography breakdowns learning so much. Please more will be checking more out of this channel for sure!
"Thats my boy Jimin"
Me: THATS KOOKIEEE