I just bought the speed Queen TC5 Washer. When I installed it I was SHOCKED at how HEAVY it was Compared to the 3 year old Maytag Bravos XL that it was Replacing
I have Miele washer and dryer and I must say for a small family. It's enough capacity now of course you can't put a queen size comforter in there, but you could certainly wash a mattress cover or a blanket. We are used to giant size washers in the U.S. in Europe they don't. These are the sizes they use and because they're so well built and strong they can handle a large load with no issues as opposed to some of the big tub American machines that have plenty of balancing problems when you put a large load in.
Speed queen is still the best today. In fact, almost every single brand used to be the most reliable back in the 80s or even the 70s. But now speed queen is the only best washer you can buy. I was so lucky to have my LG load washer since 2010 and if something goes wrong with it, I am definitely going with Speed queen. If speed queen made refrigerators, dishwashers, stoves, as well as microwaves, that would be really great. A lot of the brands that people buy from Lowe’s or Home Depot or any big box store you can think of, are pure junk. GE, whirlpool, Frigidaire, Sears Kenmore, hot point, and maytag were definitely a whole lot better quality back in the 80s and back then, they were the most reliable machines since it didn’t rely on computer boards. Either I would get a speed queen or a 1970s Kenmore 70 series Heavy duty plus. Whirlpool used to make kitchenaid style direct drives which sadly are long gone but the whirlpool direct drive from the late 80s or early 90s, 1980s GE Filter Flo or the 1950s GM Frigidaire Unimatic is also still the best washer and will outlast HE washers.
The biggest lesson I've learned is don't assume that brand you had a great experience with on your last purchase is going to be the best one to buy when you replace it.
Had an LG fridge. No more! Compressor died while under warranty. Compressor died again but no longer under warranty. Had to buy a new fridge. Got a GE Profile. Had issue with auto water fill day one. Glad I was home when water came on by self. Repair was done within the week. So far so good.
I’ve had Miele washers & dryers in several houses that are very durable and wash better than any other brand I’ve used. Love them. Gaggenau has been operating as a company for over 300 years in Europe. It’s now owned by Bosch. Very high end, very durable.
@ this is true, you’d have to get that data from a company like Yale Appliance in the Boston area that sells a good amount of them and services them. They’re on TH-cam. They also put up statistics for repair that they personally do from their service department. The one thing about Gaggenau other than being really expensive is that they have to be professionally installed (sizing is more European), and they’re made for the “master chef” type people who need extreme control and options for cooking things most of us don’t eat. Our Wolf cooktop & GE Profile wall oven combo suits us just fine.
After consulting CR, I bought an LG washer and dryer 5 or 6 years ago. Didn’t keep the dryer. (It was never plugged in. Long story short, Sears lost my business with the way they handled bringing the wrong dryer-gas instead of electric.) I didn’t need a new washer and dryer, just wanted one bc mine were 20 years old. Well, I lost interest in getting a new dryer, and have still been using a 25 yo Maytag Neptune dryer. I really regret replacing a perfectly good washer. LG isn’t horrible, but, certainly doesn’t get my clothes as clean as the Maytag. With the LG I admit to weighing laundry down with water to ensure clothes are washed/rinsed well enough. Live and learn, I suppose. Thanks for video! Very informative. x
20 year old Kenmore/Whirlpool side by side fridge going strong,8 year old LG washer no problems, rest of stuff 20 years old,still ok. Minor stuff ice maker replaced in fridge,and water inlet valves clogged.
You have an opinion about the "average American" that is quite at odds with mine. Perhaps the "average American" isn't such a cut-and-dry stereotype as either of us seems to imagine.
A lot of CR is that it's subscriber feedback, so that pool is limited and definitely not representative of the whole brand list. Did a pair of LG front loaders when we bought our house and a Frigidaire gallery side by side. Wasn't washing cloths in someone elses washer partly... and because the closet it's all in is better served by stacked front loaders than the top load HE that was in it before. Eventually replaced the nearly 20 year old Maytag dishwasher with a Samsung. The Samsung is okay, but wish I would have gone Bosch 800; My friends have one and I generally have no issues with it. The last 2 are the Range and Microwave, most likely going Induction when that time comes. Bought my parents an LG fridge several years ago and it's been perfectly fine, managed to get one with the Smart Inverter without even knowing that it's the better of their options for reliability. Biggest gripe is the annoying door alarm. As well as an LG Washer Dryer. Dryer has been flawless, and after a few years the bleach valve went bad... disconnected it from power and no issues with leaks since. Many people just don't do the maintenance on their investments like they should. Cleaning filters, leaving HE washers open to dry out, wiping washers down, cleaning lint build up, limiting soap and avoiding fabric softener... and I think that's a solid bit of lack of reliability/satisfaction as well. Once a month I run a vinegar cycle in the dish washer and do the filters every couple of weeks, once a month I drain the washer and clean out its filter, clean the dispenser tray and run a cleaning cycle with a full scoop of oxiclean directly in the tub.
My experience is that no one brand excels in every appiamce - and brand reliability can change from year to year. So, my appliance suite is a mismash of different brands based on who's making the best of each appliance at the time of purchase. For dishwashers, Bosch is the way to go, hands down. Samsung used to make the best washers and dryers 10 years ago, but no more. My 9 year old ones have been flawless. The rest of their stuff has consistently been crap. My GE Profile fridge died at 7 years old - $2k to repair, so away it went and I won't buy another since they became a Chinese owned brand. Meanwhile my friend's GE Cafe fridge didn't have any issues. I replaced it with an LG. Their compressor issues and the lawsuits are based on pre-2019 models before they redesigned the flawed compressors. They're fine now. Yale appliance, which actually services everything they sell and rates reliability based on their in house repair data agree that LG is now among the most reliable fridges.
Stay away from Whirlpool washing machines. Ours is only a few years old, but I do a load of laundry every day. The machine recently began to shake violently, which I've since learned is a common problem with this brand. Problem was the cheap suspension rods - needed damping grease added to them. Looked at the Speed Queen and saw that this brand has the same awesome suspension system in each of its models, and built to last for 10,400 washes whereas inexpensive models, such as the Whirlpool, will get you around 2500 or so washes.
Yeah and they're supposed to be better than the regular LG, something is not adding up people spend extra money for something shiny that is the same as a basic unit and they are more likely to complain when it fails
LG Refrigerator is a complete trap buy. Don't do it. The compressor is a certainly an issue. I purchased a Kenmore (LG) fridge in 2018. December 2020 and the compressor went out. Of course you could not buy a new fridge at the time. They were all stuck on boats. I called Kenmore for support and learned that Kenmore of today is not the Kenmore of when I purchased Fridge. No assistance coming. Learned about the law suite and signed up. Years later and nothing. Called numerous repair service companies and got "FLAT" turned down. They would not even come and look at when they heard it was an LG. They said the compressor was not available and that the replacement was no better if they could even get it. Recommended I find a new Fridge. Plus if they could get a part, it was going to cost 70-80% of my original purchase price to repair. Finally one of the repair companies told me about a guy they heard of who had a fix and gave me his number. He said she could replace the compressor with a non LG compressor and while it might a little cause a little more noise, he said it would last and work well. Other downside, it would completely void any warranty. Cost, about half the cost of the Fridge when new. Well, it had been over month with no fridge and there still was nothing close to a replacement. Plus, the cheap smaller fridges were now all twice as much as they were only months ago. So, I accepted the cost and got the compressor replaced. It has worked flawlessly and noise is there for short periods upon start up and goes away. Three years into the repair and everything good. Just wish when I bought the LG, I new it would cost 1.5 times more than the sticker price when I bought it to get a reliable product.
Zooming in and out a hundred times doesn't improve the watchability, and there is nothing earth shattering here as every know that with the increase throughout the years in low quality components ie plastics in most products, they have lost there durability/longevity
My results and consumer reports are inversely related on most things, and I'm not about ready to let them make choices for me. My experience with Whirlpool has been great. My refrigerator is going to be 11 next year, my dishwasher is going to be 13 next year, my oven is going to be 15 next year as will my washer, and my dryer Will be 18 next year. People that I know that have LG have not had this glowing positive outcome that consumer reports is claiming. I simply don't buy it.
Thanks for sharing, I have found the same thing in my own personal research. It seems like they have their preferred vendors that they want to promote, it really does cause me to wonder if the board members of consumer reports are sitting on a lot of LG America stock investments?
@@appliance-insiderI don't know. Could be. The other way that I have thought about it is looking at how they have written about speed Queen outside of their reliability has come off to me as having different priorities than I have. My goal is I want my appliances simple, I want reliability on a system that is overbuilt with wide tolerances. The noise that a traditional washer makes is no big deal to me as that's the way they've always been as long as I've been alive. Consumer reports writers seem to be of the opposite philosophy of myself. They want to be wowed with digital displays, new features, new designs, prioritizing quietness, measuring resource consumption and and other such things that while they can be done require a design with very tight tolerances and over engineering. While It's not impossible to have a long life from such a thing, the more complicated it is, the more areas open for failure. LG pushes the envelope with their linear compressor and it saves energy but as we've all seen it's not reliable yet like you pointed out they're putting it with the second highest rating on reliability. It doesn't add up. There are other things with their recommendations that don't make sense to me. In the Whirlpool hierarchy, Amana is below and Maytag is above yet both in these ratings are further down from whirlpool. Given how popular the Maytag commercial washer is while not as good as a speed queen, it's still a stronger unit the most of the whirlpool models being sold yet that's not reflected in the rating. With some brands, the entry level models are more reliable because they're less complicated and with other brands the higher end models are more reliable because they invested in better parts but in here it's strange that both lower and higher are both inferior to the brand in the middle. Then, after knowing people that have had Bosch dishwashers, I do not agree with the solid green rating at all. I don't know which series they have so I'm not trying to knock the 800 series but with the people I know, the one had replace the motor within 5 years. The other one over the last 20 years has had I think three of Bosch dishwashers along with three Whirlpool dishwashers (she has a big family, so it is constantly running, Plus they have well water that is extremely hard water). I've asked her about the difference in reliability and she says she can't tell any difference they die within three to four years from her experience regardless of the brand.
You don’t even seem to know what you’re reading here. These are the results of a survey to subscribers about their reliability experience with appliances. It has nothing to do with how good they wash or anything else. It’s strictly a customer generated survey of dependability. Consumer reports has nothing to do with it either. They’re just aggregating the data and reporting what owners said happened to their product. Obviously you don’t understand this at all, before you make another TH-cam video you should figure out what you’re talking about.
Speed Queen is the only commercial washer/dryer built in Ripon, WI. Quality machines.
Truly the best
I have two speed queens great machines
Agreed. They have solid suspension systems, unlike Whirlpool which has cheap plastic parts.
I watch and learn a lot from your videos and shorts. Please keep making them.
I just bought the speed Queen TC5 Washer. When I installed it I was SHOCKED at how HEAVY it was Compared to the 3 year old Maytag Bravos XL that it was Replacing
I have Miele washer and dryer and I must say for a small family. It's enough capacity now of course you can't put a queen size comforter in there, but you could certainly wash a mattress cover or a blanket. We are used to giant size washers in the U.S. in Europe they don't. These are the sizes they use and because they're so well built and strong they can handle a large load with no issues as opposed to some of the big tub American machines that have plenty of balancing problems when you put a large load in.
Speed queen is still the best today. In fact, almost every single brand used to be the most reliable back in the 80s or even the 70s. But now speed queen is the only best washer you can buy. I was so lucky to have my LG load washer since 2010 and if something goes wrong with it, I am definitely going with Speed queen. If speed queen made refrigerators, dishwashers, stoves, as well as microwaves, that would be really great. A lot of the brands that people buy from Lowe’s or Home Depot or any big box store you can think of, are pure junk. GE, whirlpool, Frigidaire, Sears Kenmore, hot point, and maytag were definitely a whole lot better quality back in the 80s and back then, they were the most reliable machines since it didn’t rely on computer boards. Either I would get a speed queen or a 1970s Kenmore 70 series Heavy duty plus. Whirlpool used to make kitchenaid style direct drives which sadly are long gone but the whirlpool direct drive from the late 80s or early 90s, 1980s GE Filter Flo or the 1950s GM Frigidaire Unimatic is also still the best washer and will outlast HE washers.
The biggest lesson I've learned is don't assume that brand you had a great experience with on your last purchase is going to be the best one to buy when you replace it.
Well said
Had an LG fridge. No more! Compressor died while under warranty. Compressor died again but no longer under warranty. Had to buy a new fridge. Got a GE Profile. Had issue with auto water fill day one. Glad I was home when water came on by self. Repair was done within the week. So far so good.
That’s rough, sorry to hear that
I’ve had Miele washers & dryers in several houses that are very durable and wash better than any other brand I’ve used. Love them.
Gaggenau has been operating as a company for over 300 years in Europe. It’s now owned by Bosch. Very high end, very durable.
And yet without reliability data in the American market and given the highest numbers🤔
@ this is true, you’d have to get that data from a company like Yale Appliance in the Boston area that sells a good amount of them and services them. They’re on TH-cam. They also put up statistics for repair that they personally do from their service department.
The one thing about Gaggenau other than being really expensive is that they have to be professionally installed (sizing is more European), and they’re made for the “master chef” type people who need extreme control and options for cooking things most of us don’t eat. Our Wolf cooktop & GE Profile wall oven combo suits us just fine.
@@appliance-insiderthe reason there is not a lot of data about Gaggenau is the people that buy them don't read Consumer Reports. It's very high end.
After consulting CR, I bought an LG washer and dryer 5 or 6 years ago. Didn’t keep the dryer. (It was never plugged in. Long story short, Sears lost my business with the way they handled bringing the wrong dryer-gas instead of electric.) I didn’t need a new washer and dryer, just wanted one bc mine were 20 years old. Well, I lost interest in getting a new dryer, and have still been using a 25 yo Maytag Neptune dryer. I really regret replacing a perfectly good washer. LG isn’t horrible, but, certainly doesn’t get my clothes as clean as the Maytag. With the LG I admit to weighing laundry down with water to ensure clothes are washed/rinsed well enough. Live and learn, I suppose.
Thanks for video! Very informative. x
Sorry to hear about the loss of the old Maytag, thanks for the info about the LG
What is the equivalent sold in Canada? Is it huebsch?
Yes
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I had a GE Cafe refrig, I loved it, it hated me. Had to have it repaired 3 times in 5 years. Never again.
Ouch
20 year old Kenmore/Whirlpool side by side fridge going strong,8 year old LG washer no problems, rest of stuff 20 years old,still ok. Minor stuff ice maker replaced in fridge,and water inlet valves clogged.
You have an opinion about the "average American" that is quite at odds with mine. Perhaps the "average American" isn't such a cut-and-dry stereotype as either of us seems to imagine.
A lot of CR is that it's subscriber feedback, so that pool is limited and definitely not representative of the whole brand list. Did a pair of LG front loaders when we bought our house and a Frigidaire gallery side by side. Wasn't washing cloths in someone elses washer partly... and because the closet it's all in is better served by stacked front loaders than the top load HE that was in it before. Eventually replaced the nearly 20 year old Maytag dishwasher with a Samsung. The Samsung is okay, but wish I would have gone Bosch 800; My friends have one and I generally have no issues with it. The last 2 are the Range and Microwave, most likely going Induction when that time comes.
Bought my parents an LG fridge several years ago and it's been perfectly fine, managed to get one with the Smart Inverter without even knowing that it's the better of their options for reliability. Biggest gripe is the annoying door alarm. As well as an LG Washer Dryer. Dryer has been flawless, and after a few years the bleach valve went bad... disconnected it from power and no issues with leaks since.
Many people just don't do the maintenance on their investments like they should. Cleaning filters, leaving HE washers open to dry out, wiping washers down, cleaning lint build up, limiting soap and avoiding fabric softener... and I think that's a solid bit of lack of reliability/satisfaction as well. Once a month I run a vinegar cycle in the dish washer and do the filters every couple of weeks, once a month I drain the washer and clean out its filter, clean the dispenser tray and run a cleaning cycle with a full scoop of oxiclean directly in the tub.
My experience is that no one brand excels in every appiamce - and brand reliability can change from year to year. So, my appliance suite is a mismash of different brands based on who's making the best of each appliance at the time of purchase. For dishwashers, Bosch is the way to go, hands down. Samsung used to make the best washers and dryers 10 years ago, but no more. My 9 year old ones have been flawless. The rest of their stuff has consistently been crap. My GE Profile fridge died at 7 years old - $2k to repair, so away it went and I won't buy another since they became a Chinese owned brand. Meanwhile my friend's GE Cafe fridge didn't have any issues. I replaced it with an LG. Their compressor issues and the lawsuits are based on pre-2019 models before they redesigned the flawed compressors. They're fine now. Yale appliance, which actually services everything they sell and rates reliability based on their in house repair data agree that LG is now among the most reliable fridges.
It will help if you show the name and the rates ,instead just the rate numbers
My dad has been a technician for over 50 years - Samsung sucks, take it from him. He says most things suck now.
Stay away from Whirlpool washing machines. Ours is only a few years old, but I do a load of laundry every day. The machine recently began to shake violently, which I've since learned is a common problem with this brand. Problem was the cheap suspension rods - needed damping grease added to them. Looked at the Speed Queen and saw that this brand has the same awesome suspension system in each of its models, and built to last for 10,400 washes whereas inexpensive models, such as the Whirlpool, will get you around 2500 or so washes.
Interesting that SKS - Signature Kitchen Suites by LG dropped down a few spots.
Yeah and they're supposed to be better than the regular LG, something is not adding up people spend extra money for something shiny that is the same as a basic unit and they are more likely to complain when it fails
@ The one thing SKS has is their better manufacture warranty. Their pro ranges with sous vide are nice. That’s a very niche market though.
Yale Appliance recommends LG dishwashers and Washers. Say they rarely repair LG. the dishwashers are very reliable. I have one can attest to that.
I'm glad that they are sharing that, however that has not been my experience.
Speed queen in general has the highest build quality in new residental machines. Doesn't take much to open them up and compare them.
LG Refrigerator is a complete trap buy. Don't do it. The compressor is a certainly an issue. I purchased a Kenmore (LG) fridge in 2018. December 2020 and the compressor went out. Of course you could not buy a new fridge at the time. They were all stuck on boats. I called Kenmore for support and learned that Kenmore of today is not the Kenmore of when I purchased Fridge. No assistance coming. Learned about the law suite and signed up. Years later and nothing. Called numerous repair service companies and got "FLAT" turned down. They would not even come and look at when they heard it was an LG. They said the compressor was not available and that the replacement was no better if they could even get it. Recommended I find a new Fridge. Plus if they could get a part, it was going to cost 70-80% of my original purchase price to repair. Finally one of the repair companies told me about a guy they heard of who had a fix and gave me his number. He said she could replace the compressor with a non LG compressor and while it might a little cause a little more noise, he said it would last and work well. Other downside, it would completely void any warranty. Cost, about half the cost of the Fridge when new. Well, it had been over month with no fridge and there still was nothing close to a replacement. Plus, the cheap smaller fridges were now all twice as much as they were only months ago. So, I accepted the cost and got the compressor replaced. It has worked flawlessly and noise is there for short periods upon start up and goes away. Three years into the repair and everything good. Just wish when I bought the LG, I new it would cost 1.5 times more than the sticker price when I bought it to get a reliable product.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the LG fridge
My parents and grandparents have a Kenmore (Whirlpool) fridge, both from around 2008. Suprisingly they are still running
Zooming in and out a hundred times doesn't improve the watchability, and there is nothing earth shattering here as every know that with the increase throughout the years in low quality components ie plastics in most products, they have lost there durability/longevity
My results and consumer reports are inversely related on most things, and I'm not about ready to let them make choices for me.
My experience with Whirlpool has been great. My refrigerator is going to be 11 next year, my dishwasher is going to be 13 next year, my oven is going to be 15 next year as will my washer, and my dryer Will be 18 next year.
People that I know that have LG have not had this glowing positive outcome that consumer reports is claiming. I simply don't buy it.
Thanks for sharing, I have found the same thing in my own personal research. It seems like they have their preferred vendors that they want to promote, it really does cause me to wonder if the board members of consumer reports are sitting on a lot of LG America stock investments?
@@appliance-insiderI don't know. Could be. The other way that I have thought about it is looking at how they have written about speed Queen outside of their reliability has come off to me as having different priorities than I have. My goal is I want my appliances simple, I want reliability on a system that is overbuilt with wide tolerances. The noise that a traditional washer makes is no big deal to me as that's the way they've always been as long as I've been alive. Consumer reports writers seem to be of the opposite philosophy of myself. They want to be wowed with digital displays, new features, new designs, prioritizing quietness, measuring resource consumption and and other such things that while they can be done require a design with very tight tolerances and over engineering. While It's not impossible to have a long life from such a thing, the more complicated it is, the more areas open for failure. LG pushes the envelope with their linear compressor and it saves energy but as we've all seen it's not reliable yet like you pointed out they're putting it with the second highest rating on reliability. It doesn't add up.
There are other things with their recommendations that don't make sense to me. In the Whirlpool hierarchy, Amana is below and Maytag is above yet both in these ratings are further down from whirlpool. Given how popular the Maytag commercial washer is while not as good as a speed queen, it's still a stronger unit the most of the whirlpool models being sold yet that's not reflected in the rating. With some brands, the entry level models are more reliable because they're less complicated and with other brands the higher end models are more reliable because they invested in better parts but in here it's strange that both lower and higher are both inferior to the brand in the middle.
Then, after knowing people that have had Bosch dishwashers, I do not agree with the solid green rating at all. I don't know which series they have so I'm not trying to knock the 800 series but with the people I know, the one had replace the motor within 5 years. The other one over the last 20 years has had I think three of Bosch dishwashers along with three Whirlpool dishwashers (she has a big family, so it is constantly running, Plus they have well water that is extremely hard water). I've asked her about the difference in reliability and she says she can't tell any difference they die within three to four years from her experience regardless of the brand.
I need to purchase new appliances in January.
Who in Ohio Kentucky Indiana sells speed queen?
Otherwise it will be GE all the way.
Ferguson
Everybody who has had an LG ,Samsung is all crap
You don’t even seem to know what you’re reading here. These are the results of a survey to subscribers about their reliability experience with appliances. It has nothing to do with how good they wash or anything else. It’s strictly a customer generated survey of dependability. Consumer reports has nothing to do with it either. They’re just aggregating the data and reporting what owners said happened to their product. Obviously you don’t understand this at all, before you make another TH-cam video you should figure out what you’re talking about.
I saw their source, and they are wrong.