They never did stop ..it was the millenials who got them pulled from american show rooms claiming they are junk and killed all sales in the USA ..just like they are trying to kill the brand all to get her ..
@@donniebaker5984 yeah it was the "millennials". Not the boomers who said "that ain't a harley!" And refused to buy it. The millennials, many of whom were too young to ride or afford a brand new bike at the time. The same ones who are buying up modern classics, and are jumping on scramblers. This bike would have had way more success if it was released a few years later, when the millennials would have been able to buy them.
Showa Forks (Japanese) and Nissin Brakes (Japanese). I think this is a good thing; it shows that Harley actually had some concern for performance when they spec'd this thing! I've always been a sportbike guy but I'd absolutely love to own one of these.
I ride motorcross, (an area that HD always got smoked in with the over weight 250) and rode many street bikes. I like the looks of this bike because it is diferent from the cookie cutter HD that you see as often as stop signs these days.
@Reduxalicious No one can possibly answer this question unless you elaborate on what qualities a bike has that makes you happy. Personally, I think the XR1200 is the most practical motorcycle HD has made in a LONG time. It has a more "standard" riding position with the foot pegs under you, where they belong; not stretched way the fuck out under the handlebars. The brakes, suspension, tranny, and engine are nothing to complain about. I suggest sitting on one; if you like that, you're set.
Why is everyone shitting on this bike? It's not meant to compete with 'Busas. It's simply a Sporty that is a little more performance-oriented. It may not blow the doors off a car, but it's definitely NOT slow. Anyone ever heard of a "cafe cruiser"? In the US, at least, there aren't a lot of these kind of bikes around. The Evo engine is pretty torquie, too and has a nice sound. The styling is sweet. As a V-Rod owner, I would definitely consider having one of these as a second bike ;-)
@valakin I've owned a 2004 BUELL XB12S and i test rode a XR1200 and let me tell you the XR1200 is crap in comparison. Power, Brakes, Suspension,handeling all in the BUELL's favor. And as for looks there wasn't a day that i took it out that i didnt get a compliment from all different people and all different riders. You wont understand untill you ride one. I'm thinking of getting a 1125cr for my next bike. I really hate HD for how they screwed buell over.
Helped with demo rides one day. Rode all the products, and at the end of the day, this is the one I would pick to ride home. Ive ridden a lot of bikes in my 36 yrs of riding motorcycles, and this one is in the top 10 or maybe even 5. And its not all about HP to go fast. A skilled rider will smoke an average rider on a more powerful bike any day.
they are having a one make race series in england 09 season using these...they will gain popularity from this... harleys do have soo much character..but i think you need to own a 2nd bike as well when you have a harley
That really does suck. I guess the market is quite different depending on location. I live in Iowa and I don't see many Buells, Ducatis and such. But when I lived in Colorado it was just the opposite. Buells, Ducatis, Moto Guzzis, BMW's etc.... they were everywhere. I would imagine the XR1200 would do well there as well.
I wonder that the rider feels very confortable sitting on it to go far ahead, i have one cross motorcicle, it is cheaper than that other one and it saves more fuel aswell.
LOL.. My Sportster Makes Noise AND Horsepower.. 116hp to be exact. Which still isnt alot when compared to the sport bikes, but at over 95lbs of torque, it will pull on almost anything out there.
Im buying this bike and I Love it!! I love Harleys and that wonderful sound.I feel this bike suits my needs better then all Ive test driven and I love the story behind it. I'st def different then all my friends Harleys and Dads Ultra Classic but this style of Bike suites me fine! Myrtle Beach at the beach house for Carolina Natives M.C. party here I come!!! I dare to be different!!!
@Art Vandelay last week I got a flyer about them as they are very rare and now worth $10k ..in 2009 sold for $11.5k..I got mine for $6.6k a week before the price went up and she's a cherry with road course slicks was used for lap days only ..its getting a new updated kevlar clutch and fueling upgrade quieter lifter with a tts tune as soon as my HD shop gets their dyno fixed
@Art Vandelay if you would look closer the engine is nothing like a buell or an xl but more like thell aluminum XR750 top and bottom ...look at the cam cover there anit no points cover or any way tovuse electronic ignition or points that al other beull and XL engines have today ...Harley introduced the xr1200 as retro of the famous dirt track racers xr750 that still win today and that is exactly what the XR1200 was built to do ..and did it for ten years in row developed by Vance and Hines Harley Davidson racing team ...th xr1200 is the most popular new bikes for 2020 in Japan as harley has never stopped producing them for Europe south america and Japan who rebadges them as "trijya" and sells them back to us ..you tube " trijya" and spread the word
I just bought one in November 2020 bone-stock in excellent condition for under $5k with under 6000 miles. They are out there in private hands at good prices. Forget the dealerships. I did have to drive 200 miles to rural Iowa and have it shipped to the Chicago area via U-Ship ($350) but it was worth it.
i'm with midas. it just sounded like typical harley-hating to me, and with incorrect specs, no less!!! i ride a Harley. i've seen a Harley t-shirt that reads (something like) "If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you." - SO true!!!i like this bike a lot, but wouldn't dream of buying a similar ducati, or anything else.
Check out the customized XR1200 on youtube with Seth Enslow jumping it 187 feet! Crazy! Another dude back flips one! Again, I like the looks and style of this bike.
NO WAY! The VMAX is a V4 Engine and the new model is like 1800cc. The V-ROD is 1200cc Porsche Designed. And the looks aren't even the same so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
ok plain and simple, its a harley and unless you have been to the world famous springfield mile to see a pack of 20 riders going past the grandstands at 130 mph you have no right to bash this bike. it makes perfect sense, would be an awesome bike to ride, and it doesnt need a modern ohc motor to be a great bike. i praise h-d for bringing this bike to the u.s.a and frankly if i could afford this bike i guarantee i would have one!
OK, i hold my hands up, i just read Brennafugg's post again, i miss read the bike he was comparing it to, i thought he had typed 996. But i stand by the stuff about comparing the XR to sports bikes, that's been done a lot. And it is 150lbs lighter than he says it is.
You can tell the guys who realy love motorcycle from the ones who like bikes.The ones who dont own bikes and just like bikes talk crap about a brand cause it,s not theres.I love my suzuki and i would love to have this bike..Most the crap comments is comeing from non riders, non bike owners...Theres alot of haters on here .
just like my guitars, i am a fan of Gibson guitars. now there might be a "better" and cheaper guitar made by someone else for the same style of music, but I want the look and feel of a Gibson. we all have different tastes!!!
@CeletenteFan223 Saying that the "styling is better" is a subjective statement, not an objective one. There is no "best" looking bike as people have different tastes. I think the only good looking bikes from H-D are the Sportster Nightster and the XR1200 line. Many die-hard Harley fans disagree with me. If the company put out more bikes like this XR1200 (a bike that many ignored, btw), I'd have one sitting in my garage. Not everyone wants a 750lb behemoth for cruising around town.
If he is gonna make a comment he should get his facts right, he put the XR at 150lbs heavier than it is! Just another HD hater as far as i can see. The Ducati is a sports bike the XR is a sporty Harley and does not pretend to be a sports bike. He shouldn't be comparing the two. I own an XR and a softail and i'm sick of people comparing the XR to all out sports bikes. Because my friend, that aint what it is. bikes. If he wants to compare the Ducati to something it should be a Buell.........
@inmate1577 you are trippin ive had a r1 and a ninja both were cheaply made then i went to a aprilia rsv4 which was a great bike crotch rocket style. but now i have a harley sportster and i have to say my favorite bike to ride.
Ididnt know harley made this, looks like a standard motorcycle, I think that I like it. As one comment below says, real brakes and suspension! I might have one of these, except...I already have my dream bike, and it's a Honda! Cbr1100xx Super Black bird of course eats hardleys for breakfast. That hardleys motor though is good for tractors and other agricultural implements.
i like the look of it. trackers are the most fun motorcycles ever made, and this just looks so grunty and street ready with classic styling cues up there with what triumph and ducati have done with theyre cafe racers. such and overrated sportster. ive yet to see one on the road.
Africa Twin great bike . 25 kilos too heavy .so I traded my Honda Africa twin even up for a orange xr1200 in perfect shape .. No leaks and no smoke ..15k miles on it the Honda I traded even with had 10k on it ....I rode it 1000miles to get my Harley and rode my Harley xr1200 a 1000 miles to get her home without one problem and never seen or rode this bike before ..just jumped on it and thundered home
@@1990-t1j most people who have never ridden one and know nothing about off road bikes would agree with you .. or understand that a bike that cost more than a Harley of same ..and then one year later has a trade in value less than half what you pay as the following year is not worth trading in you will keep it for life as no one will pay you any where close to the money you will never recover after only a year ...hell triumph tigers a much better bike holds their value more than a Harley as just last week my xr1200 went up in valve as they are quite rare have been declared a collector idem now worth $10,000 bucks ...I challenge any one in the dirt or pavement to pass my screamin' eagle Vance and hinds road racer with a stock Africa twin that is not a chick magnet as a xr1200 is ..
It is a funner bike than most harleys, but these guys are trying to make it into something it isn't! It's not a sport bike by any means! This video is only going to lead people to be disappointed if they buy one after watching this! Shame on you guys!
Mate, I've got a Buell and am taking a streetbob and an XR1200 out for testrides tomorrow. But what's with the bragging about it being American made? Let's not pretend these bikes (Buell included) are built well, because they just flat AREN'T. I keep my Buell because it makes up for its other shortcomings in sheer character and attitude, but it isn't well built at all. Well not unless you call busted 4th gear dogs/primary & rockerbox gaskets blowing etc well built!!
its not worth the price. the europeans don't like them and that is the market they aimed for. one it doesn't handle that well, its better than a standard harley. two be prepared to have 75% of everything out there faster than you, don't believe the hype. three its center of balance is still like a sportster, too high. four its not comfortible on long trips, they tried to down play that in the video. a buell is a better choice. you'll have more fun and enjoy it more.
To each his own man. People who ride Harley ride them for reasons that aver probably very different from yours to ride metric bikes. Or you're just jealous lol
This thing is awfull. Shook like a jackhammer on tickover. Didn't make me change my vrod. I'd rather hotup a 1200 sportster! Another bad try like the street rod. Buell did a better job. Just chuck away that bloody crap frame and start again boys.
Shame they stopped producing them. The guys I know that have ridden them all love them.
I wish they were still available.
They never did stop ..it was the millenials who got them pulled from american show rooms claiming they are junk and killed all sales in the USA ..just like they are trying to kill the brand all to get her ..
@@donniebaker5984 yeah it was the "millennials". Not the boomers who said "that ain't a harley!" And refused to buy it. The millennials, many of whom were too young to ride or afford a brand new bike at the time. The same ones who are buying up modern classics, and are jumping on scramblers. This bike would have had way more success if it was released a few years later, when the millennials would have been able to buy them.
@@joshabreu1156 100% agree. Well thought out!
Showa Forks (Japanese) and Nissin Brakes (Japanese). I think this is a good thing; it shows that Harley actually had some concern for performance when they spec'd this thing! I've always been a sportbike guy but I'd absolutely love to own one of these.
I ride motorcross, (an area that HD always got smoked in with the over weight 250) and rode many street bikes. I like the looks of this bike because it is diferent from the cookie cutter HD that you see as often as stop signs these days.
@Reduxalicious
No one can possibly answer this question unless you elaborate on what qualities a bike has that makes you happy. Personally, I think the XR1200 is the most practical motorcycle HD has made in a LONG time. It has a more "standard" riding position with the foot pegs under you, where they belong; not stretched way the fuck out under the handlebars. The brakes, suspension, tranny, and engine are nothing to complain about. I suggest sitting on one; if you like that, you're set.
Why is everyone shitting on this bike? It's not meant to compete with 'Busas. It's simply a Sporty that is a little more performance-oriented. It may not blow the doors off a car, but it's definitely NOT slow. Anyone ever heard of a "cafe cruiser"? In the US, at least, there aren't a lot of these kind of bikes around. The Evo engine is pretty torquie, too and has a nice sound. The styling is sweet.
As a V-Rod owner, I would definitely consider having one of these as a second bike ;-)
wow.... real brakes and suspension
How many miles to the tank does the xr 1200 get? Also, is it chain drive or belt? Thanks!
@valakin I've owned a 2004 BUELL XB12S and i test rode a XR1200 and let me tell you the XR1200 is crap in comparison. Power, Brakes, Suspension,handeling all in the BUELL's favor. And as for looks there wasn't a day that i took it out that i didnt get a compliment from all different people and all different riders. You wont understand untill you ride one. I'm thinking of getting a 1125cr for my next bike. I really hate HD for how they screwed buell over.
Don't hate. Appreciate
has onyone ridden one yet? i sat on one at the dealers, and now im ready to move on up to one, but im afraid it might be too much bike for me.
i agree. i don't think the buells look bad, but this bike definitely looks sweet.
Do you guys know the HP rating on this bike? Love the swingarm idea, inverted forks, and awesome double caliper brakes.
90 horsepower that's 40 more than a sportster #1 bike in Japan they sell them under the name " TRIJYA
Helped with demo rides one day. Rode all the products, and at the end of the day, this is the one I would pick to ride home. Ive ridden a lot of bikes in my 36 yrs of riding motorcycles, and this one is in the top 10 or maybe even 5. And its not all about HP to go fast. A skilled rider will smoke an average rider on a more powerful bike any day.
they are having a one make race series in england 09 season using these...they will gain popularity from this... harleys do have soo much character..but i think you need to own a 2nd bike as well when you have a harley
That really does suck. I guess the market is quite different depending on location. I live in Iowa and I don't see many Buells, Ducatis and such. But when I lived in Colorado it was just the opposite. Buells, Ducatis, Moto Guzzis, BMW's etc.... they were everywhere. I would imagine the XR1200 would do well there as well.
they are very popular down here in Brazil as well
I wonder that the rider feels very confortable sitting on it to go far ahead, i have one cross motorcicle, it is cheaper than that other one and it saves more fuel aswell.
LOL.. My Sportster Makes Noise AND Horsepower.. 116hp to be exact. Which still isnt alot when compared to the sport bikes, but at over 95lbs of torque, it will pull on almost anything out there.
Im buying this bike and I Love it!! I love Harleys and that wonderful sound.I feel this bike suits my needs better then all Ive test driven and I love the story behind it. I'st def different then all my friends Harleys and Dads Ultra Classic but this style of Bike suites me fine! Myrtle Beach at the beach house for Carolina Natives M.C. party here I come!!! I dare to be different!!!
Such a sweet bike, I need to find one on the used market.
@Art Vandelay indeed. Another thought I've had is to get a used Roadster and put a Trask turbo kit on it.
@Art Vandelay last week I got a flyer about them as they are very rare and now worth $10k ..in 2009 sold for $11.5k..I got mine for $6.6k a week before the price went up and she's a cherry with road course slicks was used for lap days only ..its getting a new updated kevlar clutch and fueling upgrade quieter lifter with a tts tune as soon as my HD shop gets their dyno fixed
@Art Vandelay if you would look closer the engine is nothing like a buell or an xl but more like thell aluminum XR750 top and bottom ...look at the cam cover there anit no points cover or any way tovuse electronic ignition or points that al other beull and XL engines have today ...Harley introduced the xr1200 as retro of the famous dirt track racers xr750 that still win today and that is exactly what the XR1200 was built to do ..and did it for ten years in row developed by Vance and Hines Harley Davidson racing team ...th xr1200 is the most popular new bikes for 2020 in Japan as harley has never stopped producing them for Europe south america and Japan who rebadges them as "trijya" and sells them back to us ..you tube " trijya" and spread the word
I just bought one in November 2020 bone-stock in excellent condition for under $5k with under 6000 miles. They are out there in private hands at good prices. Forget the dealerships. I did have to drive 200 miles to rural Iowa and have it shipped to the Chicago area via U-Ship ($350) but it was worth it.
Nice bike but it would be better if the exhaust was a bit more discrete. Nevertheless, England salutes you!
i'm with midas. it just sounded like typical harley-hating to me, and with incorrect specs, no less!!!
i ride a Harley. i've seen a Harley t-shirt that reads (something like) "If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you." - SO true!!!i like this bike a lot, but wouldn't dream of buying a similar ducati, or anything else.
Check out the customized XR1200 on youtube with Seth Enslow jumping it 187 feet! Crazy! Another dude back flips one! Again, I like the looks and style of this bike.
Is it TH-cam datahogging or is it you trying to kill my eyes?
NO WAY! The VMAX is a V4 Engine and the new model is like 1800cc. The V-ROD is 1200cc Porsche Designed. And the looks aren't even the same so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
ok plain and simple, its a harley and unless you have been to the world famous springfield mile to see a pack of 20 riders going past the grandstands at 130 mph you have no right to bash this bike. it makes perfect sense, would be an awesome bike to ride, and it doesnt need a modern ohc motor to be a great bike. i praise h-d for bringing this bike to the u.s.a and frankly if i could afford this bike i guarantee i would have one!
That is one sweet bike and I ride a Yamaha FZ6R sport bike. But that is beautiful.
You to mate, stay safe.
And why not just go have a test ride for the hell of it. I THINK YOU MAY LIKE!!!!...lol
OK, i hold my hands up, i just read Brennafugg's post again, i miss read the bike he was comparing it to, i thought he had typed 996.
But i stand by the stuff about comparing the XR to sports bikes, that's been done a lot. And it is 150lbs lighter than he says it is.
3 month wait??? We've had one sitting on the show room floor for 3 months. We can hardly get people to even look at it.
You can tell the guys who realy love motorcycle from the ones who like bikes.The ones who dont own bikes and just like bikes talk crap about a brand cause it,s not theres.I love my suzuki and i would love to have this bike..Most the crap comments is comeing from non riders, non bike owners...Theres alot of haters on here .
just like my guitars, i am a fan of Gibson guitars. now there might be a "better" and cheaper guitar made by someone else for the same style of music, but I want the look and feel of a Gibson.
we all have different tastes!!!
Was this a review, or an advert??
buell is not harley ... no matter how people like to babble it around in their skull ...
Harley is a breed apart from the masses .
Well done H-D .
Awesome Bike the XR Series.I really wonder why this great Flattracker wasn’t a Success at all.Many People are so stupid 😮
@CeletenteFan223
Saying that the "styling is better" is a subjective statement, not an objective one. There is no "best" looking bike as people have different tastes. I think the only good looking bikes from H-D are the Sportster Nightster and the XR1200 line. Many die-hard Harley fans disagree with me. If the company put out more bikes like this XR1200 (a bike that many ignored, btw), I'd have one sitting in my garage. Not everyone wants a 750lb behemoth for cruising around town.
If he is gonna make a comment he should get his facts right, he put the XR at 150lbs heavier than it is!
Just another HD hater as far as i can see.
The Ducati is a sports bike the XR is a sporty Harley and does not pretend to be a sports bike. He shouldn't be comparing the two.
I own an XR and a softail and i'm sick of people comparing the XR to all out sports bikes.
Because my friend, that aint what it is. bikes.
If he wants to compare the Ducati to something it should be a Buell.........
@inmate1577 you are trippin ive had a r1 and a ninja both were cheaply made then i went to a aprilia rsv4 which was a great bike crotch rocket style. but now i have a harley sportster and i have to say my favorite bike to ride.
Ididnt know harley made this, looks like a standard motorcycle, I think that I like it. As one comment below says, real brakes and suspension! I might have one of these, except...I already have my dream bike, and it's a Honda! Cbr1100xx Super Black bird of course eats hardleys for breakfast. That hardleys motor though is good for tractors and other agricultural implements.
i like the look of it. trackers are the most fun motorcycles ever made, and this just looks so grunty and street ready with classic styling cues up there with what triumph and ducati have done with theyre cafe racers. such and overrated sportster. ive yet to see one on the road.
looks good
i think it's a awesome bike
this bike is my dream and greatest wish! I need money...it will be mine.)))
nice looking scooter
i'm thinking about this for my first bike because it is heavy and slow vs. crotch rockets... maybe i'll live longer!
Great bike. 25 kilos too heavy.
Africa Twin great bike . 25 kilos too heavy
.so I traded my Honda Africa twin even up for a orange xr1200 in perfect shape .. No leaks and no smoke ..15k miles on it the Honda I traded even with had 10k on it ....I rode it 1000miles to get my Harley and rode my Harley xr1200 a 1000 miles to get her home without one problem and never seen or rode this bike before ..just jumped on it and thundered home
@@donniebaker5984 I'd have kept the Africa Twin.
@@1990-t1j most people who have never ridden one and know nothing about off road bikes would agree with you .. or understand that a bike that cost more than a Harley of same ..and then one year later has a trade in value less than half what you pay as the following year is not worth trading in you will keep it for life as no one will pay you any where close to the money you will never recover after only a year ...hell triumph tigers a much better bike holds their value more than a Harley as just last week my xr1200 went up in valve as they are quite rare have been declared a collector idem now worth $10,000 bucks ...I challenge any one in the dirt or pavement to pass my screamin' eagle Vance and hinds road racer with a stock Africa twin that is not a chick magnet as a xr1200 is ..
@@donniebaker5984 I always liked them, donnie. One of my bikes is a Buell XB12X Ulysses.
It is a funner bike than most harleys, but these guys are trying to make it into something it isn't! It's not a sport bike by any means! This video is only going to lead people to be disappointed if they buy one after watching this!
Shame on you guys!
Your Trippin. Pull your fucking head in son!
Mate, I've got a Buell and am taking a streetbob and an XR1200 out for testrides tomorrow. But what's with the bragging about it being American made? Let's not pretend these bikes (Buell included) are built well, because they just flat AREN'T. I keep my Buell because it makes up for its other shortcomings in sheer character and attitude, but it isn't well built at all. Well not unless you call busted 4th gear dogs/primary & rockerbox gaskets blowing etc well built!!
@curtmastor underrated*
@ontarget08 finally someon who understands! im not a sport rider im i rider that happens to own a sport at a moment
@jamesandrew2000 haha....classic!
its not worth the price. the europeans don't like them and that is the market they aimed for. one it doesn't handle that well, its better than a standard harley. two be prepared to have 75% of everything out there faster than you, don't believe the hype. three its center of balance is still like a sportster, too high. four its not comfortible on long trips, they tried to down play that in the video. a buell is a better choice. you'll have more fun and enjoy it more.
Bet you haven't ether
To each his own man. People who ride Harley ride them for reasons that aver probably very different from yours to ride metric bikes. Or you're just jealous lol
550 lbs, at least get your facts right if you got something to say.
"Primitive suspension" you say, works fine for me...........Get a life mate!
Yes and i ride a Suzuki...lol
This thing is awfull. Shook like a jackhammer on tickover. Didn't make me change my vrod. I'd rather hotup a 1200 sportster! Another bad try like the street rod. Buell did a better job. Just chuck away that bloody crap frame and start again boys.
xr1200
@maximocremoso So