Repairing Thin Damaged Metals on Wagons | Engels Coach Shop
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- Building and restoring 100 year old horse drawn vehicles with old damaged original irons, while preserving originality also. This metal bolster plate is worth saving, even though it was from another original wagon. Sometimes the extra effort is necessary in preservations as well as in restorations.
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The saying goes that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Well, this old dog learns a new trick every Friday evening just by watching these videos. Thanks, again, Dave, for sharing - from this old dog!
I learn something new every day, some of it is I should have stayed in bed. But needs must and I get up. Today I learnt I should never have invested in block paving for the driveway, the weeds grow out of every block joint. Now I'm trying to decide do I pull em or use weed killer spray. I thought I was doing something for the water cycle allowing water to drain through. I've learnt it's more complicated than that.
PS: I'm 76.
I'm Dutch, and knew very well what "chuck wagon" means, this due to have watched (maybe too many) westerns like "Rawhide".
One can not watch too many old Westerns.
For a more accurate telling of how things really were I suggest an old TV program called Death Valley Days. The program covered many actual events filmed on location.
My name is Martin Bothe. I worked in mechanical engineering and have been retired since 2020. I live in Bavaria, Germany.
I look at your videos with great pleasure. You can only do such good work if you love doing it. I am very impressed!
My father's father was also a wheelwright. Unfortunately I have seen him very seldom in my life because he lived in Lutherstadt Wittenberg, East Germany (GDR) and we in West Germany. All of the relatives who lived with my grandfather said that he was very skilled with his hands and could repair almost anything. Even when he was retired, his employer asked him to continue working part-time because they couldn't find a successor for him.
You remind me of him!
Good luck and good health for the rest of your life.
Sincerely Yours Martin
Thank you for sharing.
Yippee it’s Friday. Here’s Mr. Engels
It is a pleasure and a privilege to look over the shoulder of such a craftsman. Thank you for sharing your work with us.
I have said in the past Dave makes working with wood seem effortless for real. I can only do this in my dreams. I echo your comment gladly.
Is a true pleasure to watch Is a million times better than me that is for shore.
Kind regards from London UK 🇬🇧
This man draws straighter lines freehand than I do with a square. Impressive.
True for me also. But I think our problem is those cheap squares we buy!
@@thefencepost Uncle was cutting drywall to fit with my aunt and three pieces in a row had crooked edges. She was giving him a hell of a time by the third piece. Turns out the harbor freight "square" he had picked up wasn't square at all. Man thought he was losing his mind at first.
That's an old carpenters trick of using the outside square edge to put the pencil mark to start from and then using your fingers to hold the spacing as you draw the line. I was taught it by an Irish guy who fitted out steam liner cabins at Harland & Wolf in Belfast N. Ireland in the 1950s. All his tools were hand tools contained in a wonderful wooden box 2'. 6" x 3'. This in it's self was a work of art.
A CRAFTSMAN MASTER TECH...NONE BETTER...MAYBE CLOSE IN ABILITY...BUT THE BEST...
I couldn't agree more everything is so slick 👌
Kind regards from London UK.
I am always amazed at the complexity. There must be literally centuries of more primitive designs and offshoots that fell out of favour to come to this level.
You and your videos are a place to hide in peace and tranquility in a world gone mad! Thank you.
Another great video Dave, it's always a bit sad when the hammer tapping stops and you sign off for another week, thank you so much for being here for us. God Bless you, your family, friends and viewers..
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "fill'er up" Nice repair work.
Thank you for the Ukrainian subtitles! Greetings from the audience and your fans from Ukraine
The complexity of the wood shapes and iron work for reinforcements never ceases to amaze me. I can't imagine how many hard learned improvements are represented in that product gained in practical use as the wagon was perfected. Great work, as always.
It is easy for us to sell the old timers short today. But they were on the ball. They had to be. Things needed to get done and they had to do them. Cows don't barbecue themselves after all.
I really enjoy watching Dave Engel and his very interesting video clips !! A master at what he does and explain !! Thanks for sharing, Dave !!
Wonderful of you to go through the effort to get your content translated. Shows your respect for your audience, well played sir... Well played.
Words cannot describe the history your bringing back I imagine back when they had to make originally those parts and how they must have Labored for days just to make one part. The spirit they must of had I commend you for holding onto our history. I whole heartily thank you for that 🙏
This wagon was built some time after 1900. So they had tools and machinery. It wasn't the Stone Age. The automobile had already been invented by then even. Though I'm not sure if one had actually run west of the Mississippi yet? There's a good chance one had not. Ford built a car in 1894 in Detroit. But he took it east. The turn of the 20th century was a busy time technologically.
Please don't take this offensively Mr. Engels, but I have to laugh at times when I see how you repair some of the things on these old wagons. As the reason I have to laugh, is how similar the things you do to fix an old wagon are to things I have had to do to repair an old truck. Like that worn out bolster I think is what you called it. You did that basically the exact same way I repaired a whole in the side the bed in my old 1965 Ford F-100 which had an old step side bed on it. As I just filled that whole in, with an roll of bailing wire, and an Oxyacetylene torch. It's just amazing how two people working on two different things run into the same problems, and fix those problems in such similar ways.
In Dutch a fifth wheel is called a Schamel, so a fifth wheel wagon is called in Dutch a Schamelwagen.
In German a fifth wheel is called a Drehschemel, so a fifth wheel wagon is callen in German a Drehschemelanhänger.
I hope this will help you.
Kind regards Erik
i am a 75 yr old x millwright and gearhead that can't get enough of this stuff. what's the purpose of passing a red hot iron thru a drilled hole . is this a hot reamer? the marriage of wood and iron on these old wagons is fascinating. thanks to you i have a real appreciation of what it must have been like to travel across our country in these wagons. thanks for sharing.
It seals it to keep it from rotting.
Hello, Many thanks for all of the videos. Don't warry, the smart brain will connect the text and the view together and understand well😎👍👍👏👏
Best regards from Switzerland
I am Arabic and I understand your language perfectly since your prononciation is very clear.
It is nice of you to tell us.
Just the work done to translate your videos into multiple languages is admirable.
what you do is beautiful. I cant tell you how much I admire your commitment to doing things right you are undoubtedly "the MAN"
He could mend the Tin Man's broken heart.
And you wouldn't hear a squeak outa him.
Example: Working on a project in Mexico, I got an foundation recommendation engineering report from an engineer in Mexico, and we had it translated by a woman in Dallas who was a high school Spanish teacher. The English translation of the report called for "drifted shoes". It took us a little head scratching to realize that the engineer had recommended "spread footings", a term we use regularly in the US, which the engineer had adapted into Spanish, but which the teacher, a native Spanish speaker, could not translate back into English, due to her unfamiliarity with engineering, which is another language unto itself.
I helped when one of our products had to be moved from Germany to Italy - including the assembly line. The machinery had been fabricated in Germany for Germany. So, no other languages included.
It wasn't that big of a deal, the software in controllers and screens has a functions to handle different languages. All the texts have been exported, send to a translator and imported again. Problem solved!
Well, the Italian workers had quite a good lough. Mostly because forward/backward motions been translated wrong.
When i first saw what kind of data the translator got to work with i wasn't surprised: It was lots of Excel-Sheets with oftentimes single words in a cell. What's gone missing: Context.
I make and install wiring harnesses for old cars, street rods, customs, one offs, grocery getters. Most of my work now is Citroens. I also have a fair understanding of written and spoken German and written French. Written technical German and French are, as you say, languages unto themselves. More than a few times I've caught mistakes in English that sound perfectly OK in the native tongue. Looking at the diagrams (each nation has their own distinctive way of drawing them!) and reading the BoM/wire lists, you have to be really sure of what you're doing.
Some of the most insidious examples are found in several of the EU treaties where the use of two dozen languages leads to very significant differences in understanding which is then exploited by those with a political agenda.
I love the fact that you make sure that each square nut is aligned with the adjacent plane, either metal or wood!
A visual inspection will show if they are starting to loosen up, I think? But it looks nice like everything else Doug does.
Repairing that big hole was as close to magic as I've seen on TH-cam.
I would have never put that much work into that metal strip. But then I dont have your same desire for originality. I know your clients really appreciate your dedication. Thanks for sharing. Charles
I like the way that not only is your work technically good but that you also like it to be properly finished and pleasing to the eye.
terry again , they must have had a lot of fun as they didn,t have all the machinery that you have got , once again thanks for the enjoyment you have given me . thank you sir .
Well thank you Sir, for sharing👍🤠
It sure is great to watch a true Craftsman at work👍🤠☺️
Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰🤠🇺🇸
Guten Tag Dave
Vielen Dank für das wunderschöne Video.
Es ist ist schön Dir beim restaurieren dieses Wagens zu zusehen.
Es erinnert mich viel an meinen Grossvater der auch dieses Handwerk ausgeübt hat
Viele Grüsse alles Gute
Aus dem Harz in Deutschland
Dein Frank Galetzka
You have great expertise, going from that pile of iron to a complete set of build up undercarriage parts!
Great to watch you work and thank you for trying to share the knowledge.
The minute details which are in your fingertips and muscle memory are a lot harder to convey through video, but that too you try your best at.
That's not a thin metal "repair". That's called "bringing it back from the dead". I wish I had half your skill. Thank you sir.
I'm a fabricator and mechanic by trade, but a woodworker and knife forger by hobby. This series hits a bit of everything I'm interested in. I appreciate you sharing your work with us.
I find a lot of metalworker youtubers will give woodworking a go, but not do things quite the way a dedicated woodworker would to get the best results, and woodworking youtubers generally stick to wood (I'm a woodworker myself and know I'm out of my element when the sparks start flying). Dave from EngelsCoachShop and Neil at Pask Makes seem to be very comfortable and capable in both worlds, and I'm glad they share their skills with us.
As always ... Great Job Dave ... and I don't need google in order to appreciate your wonderful American skills and the preservation of our heritage.
Thank you for the Brazilian Portuguese translation. I can understand well what you are saying. Congratulations on the beautiful work.
Such impressive mechanical structures, few hundred years off development.
This joining off wood n iron that holds together all those forces,horse, track and load.
Needs to be brought back!
Thanks for explaining about the chuck wagon. A lot of city folks might not know (or remember) that the chuck wagon is the kitchen on wheels used in round ups, cattle drives or anytime the men are working far enough away that going in for meals isn't reasonable. The cook would make the meals whilst the men worked. My favorite chuck wagon cook on TH-cam is Cowboy Kent Rollins. I mentioned Engels Coach to him because he still cooks with a chuck wagon on cattle drives and such... and he said he had met you? Sending lots of love 💖 from sunny 🌞 Arizona 🌵😷
Yes, he came to a town close to us in MT and the people who were in charge of the event brought him to meet us (or so we could meet him).
Don't know how many folks have had the chance to watch a part of the Calgary (Canada) Stampede Rodeo that is called the "Chuck Wagon Races". If you get a chance to watch you will be thoroughly entertained. More specialized racing wagons than this but real neat to see and laugh at.
@@russmatchett3430, (shhhh!)🤫. Don't be laughing too loud! Those racers take the whole thing soooo seriously. For some it's their lively hood. But yes, they are fun to watch! Sending lots of love 💖 from sunny 🌞 Arizona 🌵😷
@@dianeengel4155, he seems to be such a nice man and certainly knows how to cook in a cast iron Dutch oven with hot coals. 💖🌞🌵😷
@@suzisaintjames Hoooooo Weeee, Kent Rollins can cook on about anything.
I stumbled on his "Cowboy Cures" video recently. I had been struggling with some head congestion due to what we call "Indiana Crud" during cool damp weather. I tried Kent's Garlic, Jalapeno, Honey blend and it sure did loosen that stuff up and got me breathing better in a hurry. And I felt a lot better than what all the over the counter stuff does to a person.
Your comments on translation ring so true. Many years ago I worked for a company that imported Italian machine tools. The Italians would very kindly translate all of the documentation into English for us with results that could only be described in some cases as pricelessly hilarious. We had to ask them to send us the original documents in Italian as we had a translator (human) on staff.
There's just one word for this today : MARVELOUS !!
Never realized how much work it was to make a fifth wheel on a wagon secure. As an old owner operator of a modern simi 18-wheeler I have delt with a few issues on a modern truck, there is a whole new definition to fifth wheel maintenance. Night and day difference
Before I started watching this channel, I had no idea just how complex wagons are. So much ironwork, but also just a lot of complex woodwork.
Wagons were the spacecraft of their era. At least on land. You couldn't have railroad tracks everywhere.
One who has never made a mistake has never made anything, another great video from a master craftsman thank you again, Dave. And as J David said in his comment this is another old dog learning new tricks.
An entertaining and relaxing way to learn about traditional skills and procedures. Thank you.
Il giorno che avrò la possibilità di venire in montana il mio primo pensiero sarà di venire a vedere come lei realizza tutta questa arte pura 💪
Thank You Dave
73 AB7RR God Bless America
I'm glad the shop is in Joliet _Montana_ . If it were in Joliet Illinois, it just wouldn't be the same.
A case in point about language - in Italian, fifth wheel is not "quinta ruota", but "ralla". You're pushing me to expand my vocabulary.
Hei Mr E. That's very clever how you seeded the gaps for welding. Not seen that before. Thanks for the years of information, education, and entertainment. Be well, be safe, and be groovy !
Bad Chad, working with old vehicles of a different era, uses wire coat-hangers as filler for body welds.
@@robt2151 Bad chad thinks he invented it; nails, bolts, welding rods, whatever it takes, been around forever.
I’m excited to see the chuckwagon come alive
A picture paints a thousand 1,000 words!
skill and tools can do marvelous things
Dang Dave, thats true art!!! Really, really enjoy this journey of amazing crafting both in wood and metal. Thank you!!!
I always run google translate through twice, meaning first from English to the secondary, then from the secondary back to English to see the inconsistency. Then I will try alternatives to see if I can get a closer match to what I intend.
Language is such a human thing. It resists being reduced to a science, but even a child can learn it and use it well, telling jokes and detecting innuendo or sarcasm.
Great workmanship Mr. Engels
Can you remind us of what wood is being used from time to time
All this looks like Ash to me.
Thanks very informative 👍skills and work I'm from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿
Большое вам спасибо за объяснения сложностей перевода. И спасибо за рассказ о происхождении и применении различных конструкций телег. Привет из России.
I have less prob;ems listening to you than trying to follow French subtitles. Great work!
Great job sir I was impressed by the way you welded that washer in with some infills of metal great job as always when I watch you sir I see a good skilled man 👍👏👏
So pleased to see you translating your vids in various language. True Google Translate often results in whacky results. Having a laugh is good advice for klangers. Because you are monologuing in a normal-paced delivery and always enunciate and use very little jargon or slang you're as good a candidate as it gets! I checked the results in Portuguese and French which I speak well enough. Not bad! Keep up the good work & thanks.
Desde Costa Rica en Centroamérica, le deseo muchos éxitos y te comento que eres uno de los youtube preferidos, cada uno de tus vídeos los disfruto increíblemente, eres un gran artista y artesano de este negocio prácticamente extinto en el mundo, eres un gran artista y muy dedicado y meticuloso en cada paso que haces, te motivo a seguir así y no dejar de ayudarnos y complacernos con tus vídeos, la traducción al español para mí es excelente 👍👍
two thoussnd 200 something , late again. Oh l like the washer weld up. amazing how strong wood/iron our forefathers built. Fortunate for this channel too.
Actually it was pretty bad. Which lead to the foundation of the ASTM. About two years before this wagon was built.
Work Facinates me, I can watch it for HOURS.
I agree with JDAVID Below you can teach an old dog like me new tricks. I always come away from all your videos, learning something new. that's why I watch them so I can put them to use my self on my next project. Hell I'm only 79 got lots of projects left in this old carcass yet. so need to learn more to make them better yet.! thanks for all that you do Dave we all learn and listen and enjoy that's for sure. ECF
It never ceases to amaze me with the creative repairs Dave can dream up. Like cutting wire nails to weld in the voids around the washer he used to replace the metal eroded away by decades of friction on the front iron of the fifth wheel assembly. Once welded up and skillfully ground back down the repair became invisible yet strong enough to tackle another century of service.
Nails are good steel. Traditionally one might do that with welding rod if you have it though.
Hi Dave ☺ that's a great way to fill up that ragged hole, and when it was done no one would know how bad it was before, I've learned something new on this one, many thanks, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
You work is enjoyable and educational in any language. Thank you for making these videos.
A little stress relief in the welded area and it's good. Pretty good job.
I like your initiative to translate your videos, I did it before so as not to lose what you said, I live in Italy
Nice work Dave. I hope there are some young folks watching and learning from you. I'm a 67 year old tinkerer/thinkerer, and still learning.
Altijd schitterende video kijk er altijd met veel plezier naar, en de vertaalde ondertiteling gaat goed.
Gostei muito da possibilidade de tradução através das legendas.
Parabéns pela dedicação em divulgar o seu ofício.
Abraços do Brasil! 🙏🏻
Amazing work as always. I must admit the background music is a bit distracting. Nothing sounds better than hands at work.
Thanks! Really, thanks! It's such a pleasure to watch your work, and learn. And when there's a more complicated assembly like this one, is just dang cool. Cheers!
Sigo atento al armado de ese carro. Excelente trabajo amigo. Saludos desde Mercedes Uruguay
I always thought of "chuck" as "beef chuck", one of the many different muscles from beef cattle.
Down under food or provisions was referred to as Tucker. A container or wooden box used for storing or carrying provisions was known as a Tucker Box. At one time a company produced a fridge freezer and called it a Tucker Box. It is an older term not often used these days.
You might compare a chuck wagon to a tear drop trailer that has a kitchenette under the hatch, except the chuck wagon would be also carrying weeks worth of food, rather than a bed. Beautiful work, Dave.
vous faites un travail excellent , qui mérite toute notre admiration MERCI
Hi Dave,
I'm still in awe at your skills to repair those old irons. You make it look easy, but I know it is not. That pile of original irons and wheel parts is getting smaller. Looking forward to the next video. You and Diane stay safe.
It's kinda amazing the wood and iron that make up the undercarriage. I enjoy watching it all come together. That's for sharing your work.
AMAZING MARRIAGE OF BITS N PIECES...THE WASHER IS BRILLIANT...I would have fabricated a piece to fit into that hole...THIS METHOD IS EVEN STRONGER...WAHOOOO!!!
I love all of your videos and have always admired your skills but I still get the most enjoyment watching you work with metals. Very impressive and extremely interesting. Thanks Dave.
Thank you for bringing me this video.
Proof that what is old can be made new. Well done but would expect nothing else
So easy, anybody can do it. At least that's how it seems when a master is on the job. Wow. Thanks for sharing.
AS USUAL MR. ENGELS, GREAT VIDEO, TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, SEE YOU NEXT FRIDAY...
Good afternoon to all from SE Louisiana 4 Feb 22.
Bet it feels good to see that pile of parts shrink down to just a few pieces left.
I like the way you nailed the problem!
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I would have welded then put into forge with borax and hammered it flatter before grinding to help those hairline cracks weld up. Thing most people don’t realize is that much of the old iron on these wagons wasn’t steel but wrought iron. That’s why much has lasted a hundred years or more.
Chuck wagon....grand dad of the food truck...hahahhaha....👍👍👍
Awesome work. Looking forward to seeing the finished product…..but not too fast. Thank you.
Buenas tardes. Es excelente cada uno de sus proyectos y la manera que usted restaura, construye y vuelve a armar, su conocimiento es único.
Felicidades.
Slowly, watching, am getting an idea just what my great grandfather did for a living. Amazing! He was a wheelwright.
I always marvel at the mix of wood and iron it takes to make any of these old timey wagons and vehicles. They started out being made with wood craftsmanship, added bronze (earlier) then iron (later) to strengthen what was needed to strengthen and add wear resistance. Sometimes bronze and iron both were combined for even better wear resistance. Up to today’s state if the art (of a hundred years ago) where there is literally half iron half wood mixed. It is not hard to see the progression from all wood to all iron (steel).
Hello again from East Tennessee, thank you !
All I can say is Outstanding!
Thanks Daves. It’s always an inspiration watching your channel
David you are exceptional!!!(from Italy) T.Y.
Por mi parte la traducción al español todo perfecto, gracias Engels