@Hamid Hussein .The Taliban would still have suffered enormously had it not been Pakistani tribesmen sheltering them inside Pakistan. The answer to both the USSR and Nato forces dealing a decisive blow to the Taliban lay in sealing the Pakistani Border with large numbers of Troops. Like the Soviet Military leadership would later say, they should have deployed at least 330,000 troops to the Pakistani border to effectively seal off infiltration Taliban supply routes.
@@Yakushev85 Tribalism to socialism, socialism can come through revolution not is imposed, u ppl think your system is better and we should follow it Jeans and coats fucking democracy is batter than turban traditional cloths... stoopids
Alexander the Great marched into this graveyard about 2,500 years ago. ~ Alexander's words: "Easy to march in, hard to march out." ..."Even the dirt is hostile." "In Afghanistan, dogs fight dogs, birds fight birds, men kill men." "Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires."
@@MyelinProductions The problem with islam is the same problem with Christianity. The only reason the West has become so successful is because we destroyed the church basically.
@@ObeySilence islam and Christianity are NOT even close, the "god" of islam is NOT The Holy GOD of The Holy Bible & The Judeo-Christian Value & Ethic. But We see and get your point. Thank You & Peace
@@pauljaguar8112 They literally got their ass busted ... Your arrogance and stupidity would not allow you to accept it , you tried your best to make it look like you "withdrew from Afghanistan with your dignity intact" but too bad it didn't go as planned.
There is a book called the Bear went over the Mountain which talks about the Soviet experience in Afghanistan. It has a companion book called the Other Side of the Mountain.
Russia viewed their invasion of Afghanistan as a failure. Veterans were indirectly told to shut up about it, and rarely any federal monuments were put up.
No foreign force have ever forced a victory in afghanistan. Not india, alexander the great, arabs, ghengis khan, british, russians and nato. Afghans are brutel force when it comes to fighting, they won't give up there holly land. Honour to people of Afghanistan.
Hey, that Afghan general lives at the next metro stop from me in Moscow. Maybe I should go meet him))). Does anyone here know what the real story is on the ground in Afghanistan now? The numbers of coalition casualties since 2001 alone seem to indicate that the situation is at least a little better. The opium trade, however, is a big problem. I know it is felt here in Russia.
@@NYCDurrani at the time that comment was made it actually was looking up, the initial gains ISAF made were slowly withered away over the previous decade
in fact its bullshit. all Empire controlled Afghan, but they didn destroy all popullation. or you think they have to destroy population and cities to gain full controll?
@@Yakushev85 No one could fully control afghanistan Genghis Khan took control of 5 cities and that's it and lost that at the end same with Alexander the great Alexandra the great said be scared of 3 things the bite of the tiger the venom of the cobra and the revenge of the afghans Respect afghans
@@wahizmumand518 soviet troops controled all big cities and areas and never lost any city in battles, so in your logic soviet army and afghan goverment won. i dont give a fuck what makedonsky said, and this bullshit he never said.
Maxim Yakushev ur a waffler I’m an Afghan I know what was going on fam they controlled the main city with Afghan government and some others and u know what they were being constantly attacked so what’s the point of controlling the area if ur constantly being attacked the soviet wanted to take Afghanistan but after 9 years they did jack shit and also there making new movies about Afghanistan and all that rubbish same with many invaders
If someone from US policy makers seen this video and learned something from this video, they might have acted differently in 2009 itself. They never learn, because war is business for them.
00:24 "The invasion followed repeated calls for aid by the Afghan communist government" . So, it could not have been an Invasion if the internationally recognized government of Afghanistan invited (asked for) USSR military. If this was invasion, then US presence at South Vietnam definitely was an invasion, since south vietname government was not even internationally recognized.
Wow.. Sergei, being only a pilot, after being shot down successfully held off an entire band of mujahideen fighters for over an hour with a SMG and some hand grenades until a rescue squad flew in to get him out of there. I understand the magnitude of a country like the USSR having to bail on the conflict and how it subsequently wounded the pride of that nation, but they seem to treat it as if they lost a conventional war to a much smaller and less capable country. Bad things happened, but the Soviets could have leveled Afghanistan, but that wasn’t what they were there to do. I don’t understand why the government rather chose to forget about its involvement there. Stories like Sergei’s are phenomenal and deserve to be told. He could have thrown his hands up and accepted his fate, but he decided to out fighting. That’s a warrior.
@@abdokaddouri3534 ok.. well why don’t you explain it to me. I mean I tried my best to be as graceful as possible with my comment but…. guess you can’t please everyone.
@@thetrollslayer3716 I think when women are being raped and when children are being blown up and people are starving if there's other countries that can help they need to do what they can to try to help exactly what's been going on the last 20 years but it kind of seems like it was for nothing
@@bl00dline360 OH, you mean the controlled-demolition for which there was no evidence to prove that Afghanistan or an outside terror group (which incidentally was created and supported by the US), was involved?
"You can’t beat your enemy anymore through wars; instead you create an entire generation of people revenge-seeking...“These days it only matters who’s in charge. Right now that’s us - for a while at least. Our opponents are going to resort to car bombs and suicide attacks because they have no other way to win.”
Never forget war and the brutality of it and why it should be abandoned. Afghan has a decades long history of violence (tribes, ethnic groups, don't forget about Afghan royalty and their bloody history). Never forget the Afghans, Pakistani, Soviets, Chinese, Saudi-Arabians, USA, Iranians who ALL HAD THEIR VERY OWN REASONS AND GOALS during that war. Many deaths are thanks to all participants & supporters. Put blame on EVERYONE who deserves it or you are making only a blind fool of yourselves and everyone who died in this tragic conflict. BRUTALITY is human, no matter what race/nation/ideology he/she belongs to.
the was russian they started to occupy independent nations their ultimate goal was to reach sea that their strategy to occupy our land from tazar time we have seen the sign but we were not like other nations they misjudge us which was catastrophic for and we lost every thing
Afghan communists who support a atheist, dictatorship regime cannot be both communist and Muslim. Islam outweighs any other thing in life. Allah is master of everything, period. 🕋🕌📿☪️☝🏼🇦🇫⚔️
@@elyas714 if that's the case then why all Allah followers Islamic nations afraid of atheist communist China or you waiting for what are Chinese doing with its muslims majority province of Xingxiang you will wait till it touches n treat you like in similar manner like it is treating Uyghaur muslims & no muslims country dare to say a single word against it forget about opposing it
Who r afghans.. Hehehe today's Taliban is mostly from Pakistan.. Hehehe btw Soviets did beat them only than they became stupid.. Hehehe rest is history
@Fahim Abdul soviet fucked in ass all terrorists, its true. never lost any citis or battles. its true fact, if it not like that give me any link what taliban or fake mujaheddins captured?
@@kerder8660 ..you are asleep bro..they are called afghans who were born in afghanistan and grown up there...pakistani pashtun belongs to pakistan..The war was between Afghans and soviets..it has nothing to do with gulkhan..
@@info.901 .No dude.Even though the Afghans bore the brunt of that brutal war, they still had help from Muslim Countries who recruited lots of volunteers to fight the so called "Jihad" The Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia contributed millions of dollars towards the war effort with Pakistan hosting and training the volunteers.The American government apart from sending in Military advisors and equipment also sent millions of dollars through Pakistan .
Yes true, but the soviet war saw 15 thousand Soviets dead and 1 million Afghans dead, so everyone suffers best is to leave everyone in his country to live as he wants and not invade like Russia and USA did
Afghan Maoists sealed their own fate when they stood with the CIA's Mujahideen when they should've supported the Soviet occupation. Guys like Faiz Ahmad ended up getting killed by the Mujahideen.
At least Soviets had a somewhat graceful defeat in Afghanistan partly because it was overshadowed by Soviet Unions's disintegration which followed soon afterwards. The Americans, on the other hand, shall fail so miserably in Afghanistan that they'll never have the face to interfere in other countries' affairs.
The Soviet Army conducted a number of interesting and unique military operations in Afghanistan. This is the assault on the Tora Bora base and the release of the hostages (Jalalabad, 1982), Kokari-Sharshari (Herat, 1986), the release of the hostages from the Marmol Gorge (1982). In 1986, the Afghan army stormed the Javar bouza in Khost province (1986). US troops could not do all this, they are not capable of this.
@@ttaylor2021 to be fair it's only due to technological advances and also learning from the mistakes of the soviets, plus they went in there to transform the country but hey 🤷🏾♂️
It's same story all over again but at what great apocalyptic human cost innocent civilians bearing most. See this with video on last day in Saigon and now Kabul.These are stunningly alike. One must admire the tenacity of lithe Vietnamese and Pushtuns their love of their land and hatred for occupiers .
The soviets were laughing at us for getting into the vietnam war and turned around and made the same damn mistake that the usa did,Got involved in a civil war,which is a no no
A lot of us supported what was once known as a "punitive expedition". Send in our raiders and bombers, hurt Al-Qaeda. Get our scattered people, run home. I was barely a grown man in 1980. I knew that the Soviets worked very hard in Afghanistan. We Americans were not going to work as hard as the Soviets, or the British. We needed to stay out of Afghanistan.
That bead seller (former general) is not selling his wares any more, he's been recalled back to Afghanistan to be a brigadier general! saw his picture on flickr! just google his name Zalmay Weza
many Afghans regrets of fighting against Russia. during their time Afghan army was equipped by modern ammunations of that time and Afghans were living peacefuly in the cities and destricts. there were some problems in villages and backwarded palces of the country like today.
The Soviets aided the Vietcong and the NVA in Vietnam, so the Americans aided the Sunni Mujahedeen as Payback. The West didn't abandoned Afghanistan since that Russia failed to Pacify the Islamic Ideology in the Region and abandoned their Afghan Allies. Both the Americans and the Russians can't learn their mistakes not Militarily but Politically. You can't go picking fights that you can't accomplish.
I find it odd that only 1000 coalition forces have been killed in the same timespan that the solviets were in afganistan. We are doing something different and that is a fact that cannot be disputed.
How could the Soviets ignore the similarities between the Afghan war and all the mistakes we made in Viet Nam? And how can the current U.S. administration ignore those same mistakes? As a veteran of the RVN war, (1967-1968), I just don't understand.
You do your research. a) Afghan is a Race, the word Afghan has been mentioned for some 5000 years ago, nationality has nothing to do with Race, you are right no nation is Pure including Russia, USA, Norway, India etc etc, but for you to know Afghanistan's 75% are purely depands on Afghan race, 45% Pashtuwans in English translates to Pashtun, 25% Farsiwans in English the word has been wipe into Persian but because these people are Afgan by Race and don't speak what majority of tribal.
Bruh, bs, Afghan is not a race, it's not even an ethnicity, there are pashtuns, parsi and many many more people of different ethnic backgrounds in Afghanistan. You should have done your research
USSR fighting not only against the talibs,, even to whole world, with USA,Pakistan, EU and NATO,, if Russia would now support talibs with weapons, money? How quickly were NATO out,, of this land of hell
@vodolazer Actually, it's more the Pakistanis than the USA. The Pakistanis supported the fundamentalists, like the Taliban, and did not support the Northern Alliance.
And usa in vietnam lost 60000 soldier for 7 years, USSR in afganistan lost 13836 Soldiers for 10 years, We fight with banditry and drugs danger, you fight for
dafaq, this has wrong translation at 15:20 he says "I think we should't have gone to afghanistan" Translation is misleading and making whole video hard to believe.
Afghan prophecy stated that the land of Afghanistan is meant not to be conquered by foreigners so there you have it. It should now be a lesson to learn.
"If i recall correctly there was a press conference in Stockholm back in 1985, in order to present the Mujahideen to the western press. There a reporter asked them to describe soviet crimes and an elder Mujahideen replied "the communists are teaching our women how to write and read!""
As sad and tragic as what has been happening due to the fatally flawed peace/withdrawal agreement; my thoughts are that the Coalition enabled many positive and hopefully permanent improvements in regards to the drastically improved infrastructure, the newfound educational system which has made education for girls/women compulsory, and furthermore, the improving housing situation which positively benefited citizens in both urban and rural areas. It also has to be said that there is still a long way to go in order to make sure that the many positive projects we started are followed through to their successful completion. The Afghan economy has been modernised and diversified to include mining, some light and heavy industry, improved agriculture, and a fledgling services sector. Due to the thurough modernization of Afghanistan it's a vastly different situation than that of the rundown, dysfunctional 'emirate' in which fear and intimidation were used to rule over all levels of society. Another way I believe that was an improvement over the heavy-handed way the Soviets tried to impose their Communist government was the inclusion of moderate Islam in the governing of the country, helping people to see that modernization is a positive way to improve the average Afghan citizen's life without having to lose their culture unlike the Soviet way which attempted to eradicate religion with militant atheism that angered and alienated a large part of Afghan society.
The only way to win in Afghanistan is the people. Buy the opium at a higher price and the Afghan farmers will sort the Taliban etc. Just give them Special Forces and air support. Job done! Sell the opium to the pharmaceutical industry and possibly make a profit.
because they use ordinary soldiers to do the bleeding, they just issue orders from cosy offices and build a nice memorial and move on to the next mistake, they pay no price.
so Afghan being a race is not even close to being true. the Afghan word was brought to demolish persian history and culture in Khorasan. khorasan does have a history or 5000 years thats because we are Aryans. so we the persians are racially Aryans. some of the Aryans live in India they run away from Muslims at the time. they still practice their religion in India and call themselves Aryans. Afghan is like you call some one American, is American a race? some Americans r Hispanic some r Native
@pk1444 Might as well take out yourselves while your at it. USA might come looking to Europe for fights when there's nobody left to wage war with in Asia.
All we hope ISI and Pakistan military learn form Former Soviet union and American and Nato, to do the same mistake. Because Taleban can't represent all Afghanistan.
the first thing was to find a name that could hardly be identified as persian. they found the name Afghanistan and the world Afghan for whoever that wanted to remain in Afghanistan. their second pland was to send the pashtuns to all the persian speaking provinces of Afghanistan and give them land and wealth that way they can defend a pashtun strong hold. in some other parts of Afghanistan they began genocides thats how the pashtuns began to populate themselves in Afghanistan. so Afghan being a
@@callisto3605 Mate what destroyed we trashed the soviets and gave them a lesson and also Americans have lost around 1 trillion dollars just on afghanistan just go and ask the people that who fought afghans
@@rohanghosh1499 Ur a fucking waffler U don't know shit about the Soviets and mujahiden war mate They called us the gorilla tactics cause we had nothing and we attacked them with simple guns and took their weapons And that's how we smashed them
@ODA 595 I know bro but the problem is that they have never been to wars and they waffle In wars people die that's what they dont understand the Soviets took Kyrgyzstan Uzbekistan Turkmenistan I can go on and on but when they tried crossing Afghanistan to reach India they were stopped by the Afghans and since then they're called Russia
@mog404: You're absolutely right. Except that the Soviet-backed PDPA regime wasn't really Communist. They were really just progressive left-wing nationalists.
@@BolshevikCarpetbagger1917 I just enjoy calling out people on their lies in hypocrisy while I do other stuff. When you say laughable things like Dollfuss being similar to Hitler and the Vatican supporting Nazism, prepare to be exposed. Get facts instead pf ad hominems will ya?
@@reviewreviewer1 "When you say laughable things like Dollfuss being similar to Hitler and the Vatican supporting Nazism, prepare to be exposed." Be sure to let me know when that happens.
@@BolshevikCarpetbagger1917 It already did. Twice. Read again. Dolfuss is not even viewed as a fascist by most historians. Even famous atheists acknowledge Pope Pius XII supported Stauffenberg.
The west should have learnt from the Soviets. Mark my words, tNow the west will fall like the soviet after some time. This victory for taliban will encourage more nations to fight and resist imperialists in their countries. Venezuela, and many South American countries, Africa, Middle East all string holds of USA is crumbling.
lol bro keep dreaming, only reason taliban won is because its not worth for america to fight them and lose men in what isnt their war, the taliban is still weaker than america and has no chance to win an all out war against them.
@@dalbajobasnxbbd USA alone invested 3 trillion dollars. Not to mention the other 52 countries and private armies. You think that under capitalism pulling out without any victory or profit is a wise move. 🤦♀️ USA is a third world country with make-up. Wait until the makeup washes away. Just few days after the fall of kabul, Germany was meeting Russia. The allies of USA have lost confidence. Just enjoy the show.
Bahahahah, no i did not say it was a victory for them, all i said is this conflict is not really weaken the us. Usa is not a third world country, and never will be.
What the Russians didn't have was U.S Marines, seriously this war is different many countries are in Aghanistan, but most of the problem is politians they think war is easy which they never experienced in their life, war is for soldiers its up to them to make the decisions not rich politicians. God Bless our Troops.
at least russia even with all the killing they did they built schools and brought food with them america have done beside killing .. america is doing a worst jop .. >I'm afgani
Aleaxander the great: You can’t invade Afghanistan! Soviets:You can’t invade Afghanistan! NATO: You can’t invade Afghanistan! Genghis Khan and the Mongolian empire: i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/031/003/cover3.jpg
Afghanistan is a place that history has been repeated there repeatedly. LOOK at Alexander THe great, Ghanzez KHan, British and Russians. I know we are very stubborn people when it comes to our land and Pride, we prefer to be in middle edges but not SLAVES!!!!!!! remember this IHATESKULLKING
hey listen! you know that we beat russia and the defeat in afghanistan was the begining of the end of USSR!!! dont remind us what we are. Think about urself wat were U SUPER POWER and wat are you NOW. NOW you are begging from the WEST to survive. This is a shame that a super power lost in a "stone age "as you said, country like afghanistan. IF you dont belive your defeat, i know its hard, go and ask the ex- sovite soldiers that they still cant belive it like you.
Alhamdulillah we defeated another super power.. we dont care if thousands of super power come Afghanistan again and again we will fight fight and fight bcoz we dont get tire of war...
Everyone who thinks that they can invade us AFghans should go n read the history and then thy will think again... I think the americans forgot to do that... AFghanistan the land of Islam.. 4ever
@pashka1988: That's because the Soviets were actually fighting the CIA backed cutthroats, instead of ducking down behind rocks and calling in airstrikes whenever a former "freedom fighter" fires a single shot at them. The Soviets actually spent time contructing schools, hospitals, and apartments rather than bombing villages and backing a corrupt band of narco-traffickers in Kabul as NATO does. Gorbachov betrayed Afghanistan; NATO is losing.
its imperative for you to know that Afghan is not a race its a nation, when you say Afgans r the worst people and nasty race, u r talking about the persians, tajiks, uzbeks hazaras, pashtuns and etc of Afghanistan. and when u make such a statment i am sure u had a bad experience with them. there is a race in Afghanistan that we too the persians of Afghanistan are madly running from them. if u r a persian u probably met an Afghan who wasn't persian and hated persians so he lef a bad expression
I have decided that Allah really did come to earth, Muhammad lied about the REAL JESUS. I have decided to become a Christian because Allah is powerful enough to come to earth He created ❤️
So, from what, I can see here, Malcolm, you are sad and feel, sorry. by saying this here, you on behalf of the entire civilized would population of people that, "Care" admit, defeat and thus, accept defeat. They (the Taliban, in particular) Can see and DO, look at these, here comments and take great joy and pride in hearing a Westerner, admit and accept Defeat. I can say that, because, I served my time in the United States Marine Corps.
It's Russian veterans who say they failed, not me. And there's no grammatic costruction as "Russia doesn't failed", which is nonsensical. You must have failed your English test at school....
It saddens me that wonderful people not just in Afghanistan, but all over the world are so unstable, and us as responsible human beings are clearly not, as killing each other was never the answer. It would be my answer to all my dreams if we stopped making all weapons apart from say the police, spent it on poor, the needy, irrigation, and so on. The amount of trillions saved would be enough to have super world peace bodies restore broken relationships, feed, employ, irrigate, power up, you name it every where where it benefits for EVERYONE where religion, history, revenge, race, is shown the exit so to concentrate on every one having better lives, better future and to be PROUD of our doings so.
@@michaelr.7805 bro didn’t I tell you these dudes talking out their asses and didn’t know shit,USA DONT give a fuck about Afghanistan or about conquering that joint in fact if it wasn’t because of Bin Laden they would had never went in there,their goal was accomplished by giving Bin Laden some justice for the shit he did in 9/11
that fucken russian pilot says that he wanted to finished what he started. fuck you and your intire russia. i wished that he was dead. how can one be happy with killing ppl????? humans are not here to kill eachother. we are here to learn from one another and love one another.
These former Soviet military vets sound like sour grapes here. Although our efforts in Afganistan seem to be quagmired at times, I don't believe ours can be compared to what the they attempted.
soviets left afganistan not because they had lots of casualties, but because they couldn't achieve their primary objective - stop actions of the violent elements. West won't win this war until they stop those, who supports this war, including themselves.
The best bet is to let people be. If they get in yur face. Destroy them and all their minions. Make them suffer so bad they never want to step up to you again.
That story? Another of the 9/11 rumors. We don't have their pictures, we don't have their names. Why the hell did the Israelis need to send over a special team? They knew people were going to get photos.
Why bother with Afghanistan? Draw a wall around the country and leave these people to their own devices, because after all they don't want any outside help! The problem should have resolved itself in a few years. And we don't have to save everyone!
Soviets: Use massive air power to try to take Afghanistan US: Use massive air power to try to take Vietnam Soviets: Well fuck that didnt work US: *Tries to use massive air power to take over Afghanistan* Soviets: Are we a Joke to you?
"The very idea to transform this society overnight wasn't just impossible, it was stupidity."
Communist to Democratic never worked
@@mikecarone7320 not Communist to Democratic, fucking idiot. its from stone age to socialism.
We Americans have always been arrogant. George W Bush made house bricks feel good about their intelligence. Bad combination for the rest of the world.
@Hamid Hussein .The Taliban would still have suffered enormously had it not been Pakistani tribesmen sheltering them inside Pakistan. The answer to both the USSR and Nato forces dealing a decisive blow to the Taliban lay in sealing the Pakistani Border with large numbers of Troops.
Like the Soviet Military leadership would later say, they should have deployed at least 330,000 troops to the Pakistani border to effectively seal off infiltration Taliban supply routes.
@@Yakushev85 Tribalism to socialism, socialism can come through revolution not is imposed, u ppl think your system is better and we should follow it Jeans and coats fucking democracy is batter than turban traditional cloths... stoopids
Alexander the Great marched into this graveyard about 2,500 years ago. ~ Alexander's words: "Easy to march in, hard to march out." ..."Even the dirt is hostile." "In Afghanistan, dogs fight dogs, birds fight birds, men kill men." "Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires."
Alexander started all this .
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@@ObeySilence Thank you. So very sad. islam is such an evil wicked system - rad the quran. Be Safe & Well - Peace & Health
@@MyelinProductions The problem with islam is the same problem with Christianity. The only reason the West has become so successful is because we destroyed the church basically.
@@ObeySilence islam and Christianity are NOT even close, the "god" of islam is NOT The Holy GOD of The Holy Bible & The Judeo-Christian Value & Ethic. But We see and get your point. Thank You & Peace
Watching this video after 12 years..Another Super power is defeated in Afghanistan.
the only country which stands defeated is afganistan ,think about it
they did not defeat the US, they defeated the afghan forces, moron.
@@pauljaguar8112 ask the Americans,leaving behind 83 billion dollar s worth of arms.Their reputation in tatters.
@@rashadali6268 Old school M-Tech ! early 1980s rags !
@@pauljaguar8112 They literally got their ass busted ... Your arrogance and stupidity would not allow you to accept it , you tried your best to make it look like you "withdrew from Afghanistan with your dignity intact" but too bad it didn't go as planned.
This was a great documentary, often you don't hear the view of those who fought in Soviet Afghan war and how they see the US Afghan conflict
There is a book called the Bear went over the Mountain which talks about the Soviet experience in Afghanistan.
It has a companion book called the Other Side of the Mountain.
Russia viewed their invasion of Afghanistan as a failure. Veterans were indirectly told to shut up about it, and rarely any federal monuments were put up.
No foreign force have ever forced a victory in afghanistan.
Not india, alexander the great, arabs, ghengis khan, british, russians and nato. Afghans are brutel force when it comes to fighting, they won't give up there holly land. Honour to people of Afghanistan.
Hey, that Afghan general lives at the next metro stop from me in Moscow. Maybe I should go meet him))). Does anyone here know what the real story is on the ground in Afghanistan now? The numbers of coalition casualties since 2001 alone seem to indicate that the situation is at least a little better. The opium trade, however, is a big problem. I know it is felt here in Russia.
The situation on the ground is not so good. The Taliban are in charge of evactuating american citizens.
@@NYCDurrani at the time that comment was made it actually was looking up, the initial gains ISAF made were slowly withered away over the previous decade
The real story is... Mate, we all know what the real story is now
@voskresene
Ask the Afghan genral about the grond situation now. He knows a lot about it.
Afghan lands have never been kind to invaders, history has been the witness from Alexander The Great to George Washington Bush.
in fact its bullshit. all Empire controlled Afghan, but they didn destroy all popullation. or you think they have to destroy population and cities to gain full controll?
Alpha male "God loves the people of Afghanistan (Bactria), because he made them so beautiful.". Alexander the Great
@@Yakushev85
No one could fully control afghanistan Genghis Khan took control of 5 cities and that's it and lost that at the end same with Alexander the great
Alexandra the great said be scared of 3 things the bite of the tiger the venom of the cobra and the revenge of the afghans
Respect afghans
@@wahizmumand518 soviet troops controled all big cities and areas and never lost any city in battles, so in your logic soviet army and afghan goverment won. i dont give a fuck what makedonsky said, and this bullshit he never said.
Maxim Yakushev ur a waffler I’m an Afghan I know what was going on fam they controlled the main city with Afghan government and some others and u know what they were being constantly attacked so what’s the point of controlling the area if ur constantly being attacked the soviet wanted to take Afghanistan but after 9 years they did jack shit and also there making new movies about Afghanistan and all that rubbish same with many invaders
If someone from US policy makers seen this video and learned something from this video, they might have acted differently in 2009 itself. They never learn, because war is business for them.
00:24 "The invasion followed repeated calls for aid by the Afghan communist government" . So, it could not have been an Invasion if the internationally recognized government of Afghanistan invited (asked for) USSR military. If this was invasion, then US presence at South Vietnam definitely was an invasion, since south vietname government was not even internationally recognized.
If any military presence = Invasion, then UN humanitarian aids are also invasion !!!
@Gas Enjoyer... No, the Soviet-Afghan conflict was not an invasion. South Vietnam was an invasion, South Korea was an invasion.
@Gas Enjoyer... Wrong, 2 of them were invasions
@Gas Enjoyer... Huh?
@Gas Enjoyer... I mean as much as it is useless it just goes to solidify our point clearly but
Wah derr kha
Wow.. Sergei, being only a pilot, after being shot down successfully held off an entire band of mujahideen fighters for over an hour with a SMG and some hand grenades until a rescue squad flew in to get him out of there. I understand the magnitude of a country like the USSR having to bail on the conflict and how it subsequently wounded the pride of that nation, but they seem to treat it as if they lost a conventional war to a much smaller and less capable country. Bad things happened, but the Soviets could have leveled Afghanistan, but that wasn’t what they were there to do. I don’t understand why the government rather chose to forget about its involvement there. Stories like Sergei’s are phenomenal and deserve to be told. He could have thrown his hands up and accepted his fate, but he decided to out fighting. That’s a warrior.
You comment shows that you don't know what Gorbachev ordered the Soviet army to do in 1986 to the Afghan countryside.
@@abdokaddouri3534 ok.. well why don’t you explain it to me. I mean I tried my best to be as graceful as possible with my comment but…. guess you can’t please everyone.
Invading other country is a bad idea. What country would you like to invade yours?
You pick.
@@thetrollslayer3716 I think when women are being raped and when children are being blown up and people are starving if there's other countries that can help they need to do what they can to try to help exactly what's been going on the last 20 years but it kind of seems like it was for nothing
@t10parwani except when it was Buddhist, you know, before the haji's came and tried to rewritte history, it was also conqured by Alexander the Great
It wasn't he only took control of 5 cities
Good film, thank you.
The moral of the story. Stop imposing your values on other people.
Also hand over people that commit horrible terrorist act if you don’t want mother fuckers invading you and shit
@@bl00dline360 OH, you mean the controlled-demolition for which there was no evidence to prove that Afghanistan or an outside terror group (which incidentally was created and supported by the US), was involved?
"You can’t beat your enemy anymore through wars; instead you create an entire generation of people revenge-seeking...“These days it only matters who’s in charge.
Right now that’s us - for a while at least. Our opponents are going to resort to car bombs and suicide attacks because they have no other way to win.”
Exactly! They try to destroy Afghan Aryans!
utter nonesense... idiots, idiots everywhere... hatred can flourish especially well in fear & ignorance!
Well that description aged well.....
You call that Afghan general fighting on the wrong side ? He IS fighting on the right side . My salute to that SU-17 pilot . He's really tough !
Never forget war and the brutality of it and why it should be abandoned. Afghan has a decades long history of violence (tribes, ethnic groups, don't forget about Afghan royalty and their bloody history).
Never forget the Afghans, Pakistani, Soviets, Chinese, Saudi-Arabians, USA, Iranians who ALL HAD THEIR VERY OWN REASONS AND GOALS during that war. Many deaths are thanks to all participants & supporters.
Put blame on EVERYONE who deserves it or you are making only a blind fool of yourselves and everyone who died in this tragic conflict.
BRUTALITY is human, no matter what race/nation/ideology he/she belongs to.
the was russian they started to occupy independent nations their ultimate goal was to reach sea
that their strategy to occupy our land from tazar time we have seen the sign but we were not like other nations they misjudge us which was catastrophic for and we lost every thing
Your absolutley right, the Afghan people follow Islam they refused to follow communism.
Afghan communists who support a atheist, dictatorship regime cannot be both communist and Muslim. Islam outweighs any other thing in life. Allah is master of everything, period. 🕋🕌📿☪️☝🏼🇦🇫⚔️
@@elyas714 if that's the case then why all Allah followers Islamic nations afraid of atheist communist China or you waiting for what are Chinese doing with its muslims majority province of Xingxiang you will wait till it touches n treat you like in similar manner like it is treating Uyghaur muslims & no muslims country dare to say a single word against it forget about opposing it
i love this sentence NO BODY CAN DEFEAT AFGHAN.
Who r afghans.. Hehehe today's Taliban is mostly from Pakistan.. Hehehe btw Soviets did beat them only than they became stupid.. Hehehe rest is history
@Fahim Abdul soviet fucked in ass all terrorists, its true. never lost any citis or battles. its true fact, if it not like that give me any link what taliban or fake mujaheddins captured?
@@kerder8660 ..you are asleep bro..they are called afghans who were born in afghanistan and grown up there...pakistani pashtun belongs to pakistan..The war was between Afghans and soviets..it has nothing to do with gulkhan..
@@info.901 .No dude.Even though the Afghans bore the brunt of that brutal war, they still had help from Muslim Countries who recruited lots of volunteers to fight the so called "Jihad" The Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia contributed millions of dollars towards the war effort with Pakistan hosting and training the volunteers.The American government apart from sending in Military advisors and equipment also sent millions of dollars through Pakistan .
Afghanistan the graveyard for Superpowers
America is a Bastard Nation.
NAAH its drug business for Superpowers !
Always been
Yes true, but the soviet war saw 15 thousand Soviets dead and 1 million Afghans dead, so everyone suffers best is to leave everyone in his country to live as he wants and not invade like Russia and USA did
@Glob Galobus if it's the shithole, it's more because the empires who keep on trying to shit on it keep catching fatal diseases.
مونږه ماته کړه نړي اوس نه لرو ډوډي
~IMRAN KHAN
WE DEFEAT THE WORLD
NOW WE NOT HAVE BREAD😥
#HELP_MY_AFGHANISTAN
Dont worry my brother we pakistani pushtuns pray for you, afghanistan will progress and developed soon
Afghan Maoists sealed their own fate when they stood with the CIA's Mujahideen when they should've supported the Soviet occupation. Guys like Faiz Ahmad ended up getting killed by the Mujahideen.
Afghanistan is an example to all world… how you must fight and beat to a "invincible" power
the Taliban's are hiding in caves and refugees in another country, Pakistan. hats how you fight?
@@pauljaguar8112 Hum, they won right? Vietcongs won too
They didn’t win shit USA didn’t go to Afghanistan to conquer they went there because the Taliban didn’t want to hand over Bin Laden
Afghanistan
My country
I lake him so much
At least Soviets had a somewhat graceful defeat in Afghanistan partly because it was overshadowed by Soviet Unions's disintegration which followed soon afterwards. The Americans, on the other hand, shall fail so miserably in Afghanistan that they'll never have the face to interfere in other countries' affairs.
Came to pass
The Soviet Army conducted a number of interesting and unique military operations in Afghanistan. This is the assault on the Tora Bora base and the release of the hostages (Jalalabad, 1982), Kokari-Sharshari (Herat, 1986), the release of the hostages from the Marmol Gorge (1982). In 1986, the Afghan army stormed the Javar bouza in Khost province (1986). US troops could not do all this, they are not capable of this.
Haha they are doing better than the soviets!
I'm from Jalalabad
@@ttaylor2021 to be fair it's only due to technological advances and also learning from the mistakes of the soviets, plus they went in there to transform the country but hey 🤷🏾♂️
@@ttaylor2021 realy ???:)))
Russians are all balls, no shaft. Nobody believes your bullshit. SerGay.
It's same story all over again but at what great apocalyptic human cost innocent civilians bearing most. See this with video on last day in Saigon and now Kabul.These are stunningly alike. One must admire the tenacity of lithe Vietnamese and Pushtuns their love of their land and hatred for occupiers .
He knew from the beginning that one day this will happen.
The soviets were laughing at us for getting into the vietnam war and turned around and made the same damn mistake that the usa did,Got involved in a civil war,which is a no no
A lot of us supported what was once known as a "punitive expedition". Send in our raiders and bombers, hurt Al-Qaeda. Get our scattered people, run home. I was barely a grown man in 1980. I knew that the Soviets worked very hard in Afghanistan.
We Americans were not going to work as hard as the Soviets, or the British.
We needed to stay out of Afghanistan.
That bead seller (former general) is not selling his wares any more, he's been recalled back to Afghanistan to be a brigadier general! saw his picture on flickr! just google his name Zalmay Weza
many Afghans regrets of fighting against Russia. during their time Afghan army was equipped by modern ammunations of that time and Afghans were living peacefuly in the cities and destricts. there were some problems in villages and backwarded palces of the country like today.
Ahmadfarid Jamali speak for yourself, traitor. 🇦🇫
The Soviets aided the Vietcong and the NVA in Vietnam, so the Americans aided the Sunni Mujahedeen as Payback. The West didn't abandoned Afghanistan since that Russia failed to Pacify the Islamic Ideology in the Region and abandoned their Afghan Allies.
Both the Americans and the Russians can't learn their mistakes not Militarily but Politically. You can't go picking fights that you can't accomplish.
I find it odd that only 1000 coalition forces have been killed in the same timespan that the solviets were in afganistan. We are doing something different and that is a fact that cannot be disputed.
@Holland Karoly hi i
Armored vehicles and drones. Plus, later on more afghanis took the brunt of the fighting
@@akyow yup. 21k dead ANA
It is the geography that makes the task difficult else nothing is invincible.
my comment wasnt for you mate. it was for Ferdos200, sorry if i offended you.
How could the Soviets ignore the similarities between the Afghan war and all the mistakes we made in Viet Nam? And how can the current U.S. administration ignore those same mistakes? As a veteran of the RVN war, (1967-1968), I just don't understand.
@semtexbase ! thumbs up to you
You do your research.
a) Afghan is a Race, the word Afghan has been mentioned for some 5000 years ago, nationality has nothing to do with Race, you are right no nation is Pure including Russia, USA, Norway, India etc etc, but for you to know Afghanistan's 75% are purely depands on Afghan race, 45% Pashtuwans in English translates to Pashtun, 25% Farsiwans in English the word has been wipe into Persian but because these people are Afgan by Race and don't speak what majority of tribal.
Bruh, bs, Afghan is not a race, it's not even an ethnicity, there are pashtuns, parsi and many many more people of different ethnic backgrounds in Afghanistan.
You should have done your research
USSR fighting not only against the talibs,, even to whole world, with USA,Pakistan, EU and NATO,, if Russia would now support talibs with weapons, money? How quickly were NATO out,, of this land of hell
There were no talibs during the soviet war in Afghanistan.
@vodolazer Actually, it's more the Pakistanis than the USA. The Pakistanis supported the fundamentalists, like the Taliban, and did not support the Northern Alliance.
Ur true... Its impossible to defeat Afghans...
Unless u change the roes
because they are either hiding or taking refuge in Pakistan.
And usa in vietnam lost 60000 soldier for 7 years, USSR in afganistan lost 13836 Soldiers for 10 years, We fight with banditry and drugs danger, you fight for
dafaq, this has wrong translation at 15:20 he says "I think we should't have gone to afghanistan" Translation is misleading and making whole video hard to believe.
Afghan prophecy stated that the land of Afghanistan is meant not to be conquered by foreigners so there you have it. It should now be a lesson to learn.
"If i recall correctly there was a press conference in Stockholm back in 1985, in order to present the Mujahideen to the western press. There a reporter asked them to describe soviet crimes and an elder Mujahideen replied "the communists are teaching our women how to write and read!""
What Hearts...What Minds ???
Dirt Farmers
@florin171 what are you say about the explosive jacket person
As sad and tragic as what has been happening due to the fatally flawed peace/withdrawal agreement; my thoughts are that the Coalition enabled many positive and hopefully permanent improvements in regards to the drastically improved infrastructure, the newfound educational system which has made education for girls/women compulsory, and furthermore, the improving housing situation which positively benefited citizens in both urban and rural areas. It also has to be said that there is still a long way to go in order to make sure that the many positive projects we started are followed through to their successful completion. The Afghan economy has been modernised and diversified to include mining, some light and heavy industry, improved agriculture, and a fledgling services sector. Due to the thurough modernization of Afghanistan it's a vastly different situation than that of the rundown, dysfunctional 'emirate' in which fear and intimidation were used to rule over all levels of society. Another way I believe that was an improvement over the heavy-handed way the Soviets tried to impose their Communist government was the inclusion of moderate Islam in the governing of the country, helping people to see that modernization is a positive way to improve the average Afghan citizen's life without having to lose their culture unlike the Soviet way which attempted to eradicate religion with militant atheism that angered and alienated a large part of Afghan society.
The only way to win in Afghanistan is the people. Buy the opium at a higher price and the Afghan farmers will sort the Taliban etc. Just give them Special Forces and air support. Job done! Sell the opium to the pharmaceutical industry and possibly make a profit.
because they use ordinary soldiers to do the bleeding, they just issue orders from cosy offices and build a nice memorial and move on to the next mistake, they pay no price.
@vodolazer or supported them at least with weapons and the like. I think ages of warfare has thought them them to fight long ago.
so Afghan being a race is not even close to being true. the Afghan word was brought to demolish persian history and culture in Khorasan. khorasan does have a history or 5000 years thats because we are Aryans. so we the persians are racially Aryans. some of the Aryans live in India they run away from Muslims at the time. they still practice their religion in India and call themselves Aryans. Afghan is like you call some one American, is American a race? some Americans r Hispanic some r Native
@pk1444 Might as well take out yourselves while your at it. USA might come looking to Europe for fights when there's nobody left to wage war with in Asia.
The only reason USA was “looking for fights” in Afghanistan was because Taliban wouldn’t had over Bin Laden after the shit he did in 9/11
All we hope ISI and Pakistan military learn form Former Soviet union and American and Nato, to do the same mistake. Because Taleban can't represent all Afghanistan.
the first thing was to find a name that could hardly be identified as persian. they found the name Afghanistan and the world Afghan for whoever that wanted to remain in Afghanistan. their second pland was to send the pashtuns to all the persian speaking provinces of Afghanistan and give them land and wealth that way they can defend a pashtun strong hold. in some other parts of Afghanistan they began genocides thats how the pashtuns began to populate themselves in Afghanistan. so Afghan being a
Afghans never give up remember now it's good example for USA I proud we are Afghans we destroyed and sent to death many of world empires
you didnt destroy anything you cave dweller,your country got destroyed.
@@callisto3605
Mate what destroyed we trashed the soviets and gave them a lesson and also Americans have lost around 1 trillion dollars just on afghanistan just go and ask the people that who fought afghans
Soviet Union killed nearly 3.5 Millions Afghans and NATO forces have Massacred over 200000 Mujahidin. So stop lecturing.
@@rohanghosh1499
Ur a fucking waffler
U don't know shit about the Soviets and mujahiden war mate
They called us the gorilla tactics cause we had nothing and we attacked them with simple guns and took their weapons
And that's how we smashed them
@ODA 595 I know bro but the problem is that they have never been to wars and they waffle
In wars people die that's what they dont understand the Soviets took Kyrgyzstan Uzbekistan Turkmenistan I can go on and on but when they tried crossing Afghanistan to reach India they were stopped by the Afghans and since then they're called Russia
Now August 2021 Taliban mujahedeen already win the war again.
anything is possible
Listen to the vet at 7 minutes...........
@mog404: You're absolutely right. Except that the Soviet-backed PDPA regime wasn't really Communist. They were really just progressive left-wing nationalists.
But Dollfuss was a fascist? lol...
@@reviewreviewer1 Seriously, get a life. Go get laid. Find some companionship.
@@BolshevikCarpetbagger1917 I just enjoy calling out people on their lies in hypocrisy while I do other stuff.
When you say laughable things like Dollfuss being similar to Hitler and the Vatican supporting Nazism, prepare to be exposed.
Get facts instead pf ad hominems will ya?
@@reviewreviewer1 "When you say laughable things like Dollfuss being similar to Hitler and the Vatican supporting Nazism, prepare to be exposed."
Be sure to let me know when that happens.
@@BolshevikCarpetbagger1917 It already did. Twice. Read again.
Dolfuss is not even viewed as a fascist by most historians.
Even famous atheists acknowledge Pope Pius XII supported Stauffenberg.
The west should have learnt from the Soviets.
Mark my words, tNow the west will fall like the soviet after some time.
This victory for taliban will encourage more nations to fight and resist imperialists in their countries.
Venezuela, and many South American countries, Africa, Middle East all string holds of USA is crumbling.
lol bro keep dreaming, only reason taliban won is because its not worth for america to fight them and lose men in what isnt their war, the taliban is still weaker than america and has no chance to win an all out war against them.
@@dalbajobasnxbbd USA alone invested 3 trillion dollars. Not to mention the other 52 countries and private armies.
You think that under capitalism pulling out without any victory or profit is a wise move. 🤦♀️
USA is a third world country with make-up.
Wait until the makeup washes away.
Just few days after the fall of kabul, Germany was meeting Russia.
The allies of USA have lost confidence.
Just enjoy the show.
Bahahahah, no i did not say it was a victory for them, all i said is this conflict is not really weaken the us. Usa is not a third world country, and never will be.
Never ! We are and always be Free Rebel Patriots !
What the Russians didn't have was U.S Marines, seriously this war is different many countries are in Aghanistan, but most of the problem is politians they think war is easy which they never experienced in their life, war is for soldiers its up to them to make the decisions not rich politicians. God Bless our Troops.
at least russia even with all the killing they did they built schools and brought food with them
america have done beside killing .. america is doing a worst jop ..
>I'm afgani
Aleaxander the great: You can’t invade Afghanistan!
Soviets:You can’t invade Afghanistan!
NATO: You can’t invade Afghanistan!
Genghis Khan and the Mongolian empire: i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/031/003/cover3.jpg
Never did they 🤔🤔
All those empire had a set back after their invasion im afghan
Actually US and NATO troops have learned quite a lot from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
+DavajRishere obviously us has barley any troops anymore. its mostly special forces war now
Afghanistan is a place that history has been repeated there repeatedly. LOOK at Alexander THe great, Ghanzez KHan, British and Russians. I know we are very stubborn people when it comes to our land and Pride, we prefer to be in middle edges but not SLAVES!!!!!!! remember this IHATESKULLKING
hey listen! you know that we beat russia and the defeat in afghanistan was the begining of the end of USSR!!! dont remind us what we are. Think about urself wat were U SUPER POWER and wat are you NOW. NOW you are begging from the WEST to survive. This is a shame that a super power lost in a "stone age "as you said, country like afghanistan. IF you dont belive your defeat, i know its hard, go and ask the ex- sovite soldiers that they still cant belive it like you.
12 years, another one
Alhamdulillah we defeated another super power.. we dont care if thousands of super power come Afghanistan again and again we will fight fight and fight bcoz we dont get tire of war...
in retrospect, today it seems like the word Freedom means different to the oppressor and oppressed.
wars are very stupid. but there would be no wars if nobody would fight..... soldiers cause wars not politicians
Everyone who thinks that they can invade us AFghans should go n read the history and then thy will think again... I think the americans forgot to do that... AFghanistan the land of Islam.. 4ever
@pashka1988: That's because the Soviets were actually fighting the CIA backed cutthroats, instead of ducking down behind rocks and calling in airstrikes whenever a former "freedom fighter" fires a single shot at them. The Soviets actually spent time contructing schools, hospitals, and apartments rather than bombing villages and backing a corrupt band of narco-traffickers in Kabul as NATO does. Gorbachov betrayed Afghanistan; NATO is losing.
its imperative for you to know that Afghan is not a race its a nation, when you say Afgans r the worst people and nasty race, u r talking about the persians, tajiks, uzbeks hazaras, pashtuns and etc of Afghanistan. and when u make such a statment i am sure u had a bad experience with them. there is a race in Afghanistan that we too the persians of Afghanistan are madly running from them. if u r a persian u probably met an Afghan who wasn't persian and hated persians so he lef a bad expression
I have decided that Allah really did come to earth, Muhammad lied about the REAL JESUS. I have decided to become a Christian because Allah is powerful enough to come to earth He created ❤️
So, from what, I can see here, Malcolm, you are sad and feel, sorry. by saying this here, you on behalf of the entire civilized would population of people that, "Care" admit, defeat and thus, accept defeat. They (the Taliban, in particular) Can see and DO, look at these, here comments and take great joy and pride in hearing a Westerner, admit and accept Defeat. I can say that, because, I served my time in the United States Marine Corps.
It's Russian veterans who say they failed, not me. And there's no grammatic costruction as "Russia doesn't failed", which is nonsensical. You must have failed your English test at school....
9:45-950 are those Afghanis marching? We couldn't get the ANA to march for shit.. not even walk in a single file line... or aim their weapon.
Good times when we were competent
hmm, seems like history repeated itself :(
It saddens me that wonderful people not just in Afghanistan, but all over the world are so unstable, and us as responsible human beings are clearly not, as killing each other was never the answer. It would be my answer to all my dreams if we stopped making all weapons apart from say the police, spent it on poor, the needy, irrigation, and so on. The amount of trillions saved would be enough to have super world peace bodies restore broken relationships, feed, employ, irrigate, power up, you name it every where where it benefits for EVERYONE where religion, history, revenge, race, is shown the exit so to concentrate on every one having better lives, better future and to be PROUD of our doings so.
im not in russian side but what can i say that america gonna loose afghan war like soviets ;]
how did you know???
@@michaelr.7805 bro didn’t I tell you these dudes talking out their asses and didn’t know shit,USA DONT give a fuck about Afghanistan or about conquering that joint in fact if it wasn’t because of Bin Laden they would had never went in there,their goal was accomplished by giving Bin Laden some justice for the shit he did in 9/11
سلام بر مرد شير روز مي آيد كه اين گشور هاي كه در جنگ است امنيت شد و گشور هاي كه بازي ميكرده در آتش باشد
And what about Vietnam? A lot of peoples fathers died there do to the help of the USSR.
that fucken russian pilot says that he wanted to finished what he started. fuck you and your intire russia. i wished that he was dead. how can one be happy with killing ppl????? humans are not here to kill eachother. we are here to learn from one another and love one another.
These former Soviet military vets sound like sour grapes here. Although our efforts in Afganistan seem to be quagmired at times, I don't believe ours can be compared to what the they attempted.
Comment not going to age well, my American friend
salam byadaar jaan the best comment byadaar
soviets left afganistan not because they had lots of casualties, but because they couldn't achieve their primary objective - stop actions of the violent elements. West won't win this war until they stop those, who supports this war, including themselves.
The best bet is to let people be.
If they get in yur face. Destroy them and all their minions. Make them suffer so bad they never want to step up to you again.
Okay caveman
@@TheSword2212 ok, espressomachine.
I am Hazara Afghani, to be honest, i am fucking lost by watching, hearing and reading soo much crap about Afghanistan.
Please do your research about the so called Israeli art students during 9/11
That story? Another of the 9/11 rumors.
We don't have their pictures, we don't have their names. Why the hell did the Israelis need to send over a special team? They knew people were going to get photos.
@pk1444, scary but more likely everyday.
12 years later and same story
2021 fun times
see there in october
After USSR and USA who’s next?
My money’s on China
@@tomaslopez2940 china and Russia actually helped Afghanis against the US but that was secret.
@@simba7107 China also funded the Afghans against Russia, so I guess Russia and America will fund them when it’s China’s turn?
Oh how right that guy was in the beginning.
@vodolazer thats why they are doing so well
Why bother with Afghanistan? Draw a wall around the country and leave these people to their own devices, because after all they don't want any outside help! The problem should have resolved itself in a few years. And we don't have to save everyone!
+
Soviets: Use massive air power to try to take Afghanistan
US: Use massive air power to try to take Vietnam
Soviets: Well fuck that didnt work
US: *Tries to use massive air power to take over Afghanistan*
Soviets: Are we a Joke to you?
Well, this aged well,.