I said this in another comment section but did anyone else notice the stoic look on Ahsoka's face completely went away when she heard anakin? She went from super serious Ahsoka, and right back into classic wide-eyed Ahsoka mode in an instant. Great little detail there.
@@najtrowsAnakin was so important to her and his downfall and what he became had to weigh heavily on her. It would explain why she was so different from the last time we had seen her on Rebels and up until we saw her in Mando Season 2.
@@LetsGetitBoahplus you also have to remember the last time she saw Anakin/Vader was in the Temple when he tried to kill her, so the fact he’s now back in his true form and smiling at her it probably threw Ahsoka off guard
@@LetsGetitBoahYea, she probably needs som closure about that. Also the info we got about her and Sabines falling out because of Sabines parents passing might be part of her low key mood. Many things have probably contributed to that and I bet we'll see more "Snips" in her on the latter half of the show.. at least in the end hopefully.
The makers of the show, mistakenly think that too much classic moments, will lead to boredom. So they space them few and far between. The fans, like us, don't agree but we don't get a vote.
@@raymondamador1487 That's not how it works. =P Creators don't deliberately space out their best work to stave off people becoming desensitized to it. Creators are imperfect. We don't get it all the time because people and circumstances are inconsistent.
@@aaronboone8097 So your premise is that Karen Kennedy won't let Dave have more classical Star Wars moments in any series? Except if this was "the force is female" influence, wouldn't they add more classical Star Wars moments into a series in which the main cast is female? Didn't they add Luke Skywalker into Mando and The Book of Bobba Fet? Doesn't that make your assertion false or misleading? 💯✌️
people are missing a pretty crucial piece of development for sabine that was revealed in this episode: her entire family was killed during the purge on mandalore. When she let ezra go, she had all of them to go back to, and now she's pretty much all alone
that's exactly what is happening.....also bets on Ahsoka using the world between worlds to get to the other galaxy seeing that the hyperspace ring and the key are gone/destroyed
His part in black sails was just fantastic. Until Ahsoka I had most recently seen him in S3 of Das Boot in which he was also stellar, such a shame to hear he passed
The last 30 seconds were something else... Was left speechless after the end of this episode, something that hasn't happened for me with Star Wars in a very long time. Hayden did his homework and you can hear him trying to give the Matt Lanter inflections and I love it... The next episode is gonna be insane and I cannot wait!
Regarding the Sabine and Shin fight scene, I don't think Sabine actually used the Force on Shin. I think it was more Shin flinching, anticipating herself getting Force Pushed by Sabine, not unlike how we naturally flinch when we think someone's about to throw something at our face. Also, I think the fight choreography for Baylan is interesting as it is very much based around knightly sword techniques. Which, I feel is intentional to code him as something of an anti-villain, perhaps as a foil to Ahsoka's more anti-hero traits.
Ikr? I don't get how she can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
@@perssontm1628 I don't think she "hated" on the choreography. I was simply highlighting the idea behind it. However, ultimately, choreography is subjective and down to personal taste. Just because something was done with a reason, doesn't automatically mean people have to like it or to even agree that was the right choice by the choreographer.
Well, my big complaint is regarding the super-slow spin moves. Spins with swords are always terrible, but they were tolerable in Clone Wars and Rebels because they were lightning-fast. Ahsoka's spins here were slow enough an 88 year old blind man could have stabbed her before she finished, much less a Jedi with Jedi reflexes.
i think if you imagine Baylon fighting with a huge two handed claymore and Ahsoka fighting with a katana, they're choreography is much better. i actually loved it!!
Ikr? I don't get how she can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
I actually think they did a really good job here with Anakin. I mean what do you want? Man everybody wants things to be 100 million percent perfect. Luke in Boba looked AMAZING
@@kristymcdowell6185 I thought Luke in Boba looked pretty good as well. Except when he talked. But for a second when I first saw it I thought it was a real person.
@@kristymcdowell6185 Luke in BOBF looked amazing because they used different technology, they used deep fake instead of CGI. They went back to CGI with Anakin and it looked far worse than it could have with deep fake. Whatever, still a fantastic episode...
There was an episode in Rebels where the spirits of NightSisters posessed bodies of Sabine and Kanan. To me it looked like Morrok was under that kind of "spell".
One day, fans will realize that anticipation and theorizing only leads to disappointment. The theories about starkiller, cal, ezra and everyone else being under that mask only leads to disappointment when it was never in the plans. Its weird that everyone wants to be ahead of the show instead of just enjoying it
You look at this totally wrong, nothing can ever beat the imagination and that is why theories are so fun. They make you invested and allow you to dream about something you enjoy. I actually prefer some things never being answered because it allows me to fill in the gaps. Can it sting when they do, sure but it can also surprise and allow the process to start all over again.
@@HouseOfMontague1 Star Wars is notoriously bad at over explaining gaps in the name of fan service, especially in prequel territory. Remember...? "Traveling alone? OK then, we'll call you Mr. SOLO" *wink wink*
I think for a lot of people, myself included, theorizing helps us express thoughts and anticipation for the media we are enjoying. If SW was something i could keep in it's oen box and not think about outsode of my viewing experience, it would mean i enjoy the show a lot less. For some people analyzing and picking something apart is part of how we enjoy it. I think with this can be a double edged sword for some because they end up expecting and wanting their pet theory to be true. I do think that goes along with your main point, because you'll always be disappointed. I however, always have hope that what they do will be better. The plesant surprise of the show being better than i predicted is always way better than being proven right
Me: *sees notification about upload* "I bet Angela started crying when she heard/saw Anakin" *watches video* Yep, called it. I am not in any way insulting your emotions, I was right there with you.
So you indicate this isn't a Sabine move? We find out from Balen that Sabina is an orphan now--ALL her family is dead at the hands of the Empire during the Purge. And this is the cause of the bad blood between Sabine and Ashoka. So it explains EVERYTHING about her unbalanced state of mind and manipulation by Balen.
hahahaha I just saw that part and I scrolled down to see if someone else thought the same thing I did. This is Sabine that has nothing else besides Hera.
Obi-Wans form is defensive though, doesn't it make more sense the other way around? Also did you see that Baylan used the same stance and lightsaber form as Qui-Gon? It makes so much sense with how he overpowered her becuase Ataru is agressive and all, I loved it 😍
I actually really love Sabine in this episode (and the show in general), because the inconsistency with Rebels tells a story of change. And we got clear clues to that here, too, with Balin revealing the tragedy of her family. Ahsoka is also different, and I think that's also telling about change; she let Balin get in her head and literally unbalance her, and she dipped into dark side rage with Shin. As much as I love Rebels (probably my favorite animated show), I don't think I would have wanted to see the characters exactly as they were and I'm very satisfied to see the weight of the years on all of them.
So like Ahsoka is either dead, was pulled in by someone like she was in Rebels by Ezra, or like some unknown Mortis thing like she's a god that goes to the world between worlds because of the sisters sacrifice. I don't know but they definitely have my attention now and I can't wait to see the next episode! Also Anakin saying Hello Snips had me screaming.
My thought is leaning a bit toward the fact she grabbed the map. Morgan herself said Thrawn was calling her across space and time. Perhaps the combination of the magic powering the map with Ahsoka already having been there or her link with the daughter let her slip back in.
There is still a story to be told of the balance maintained/lost by the Anchorites. Also the new ancient technology they cross every now and then... who were the ppl before and how did they manage to blend the force in with machines and places.
she still had Hera, Chopper , Zeb (I'm sure he's somewhere) and her master Ashoka. She knew Ezra the least and still decided to sacrifice the rest of her family for one person not to mention the countless deaths that will be caused by the new Empire led by Thrawn. That was extremely selfish of her. @@billeverson5821
Marrok could have been more, as a character, much like Darth Maul. But Ivanna Sakhno is so good as Shin and is killing it. Sabine knows to keep her eye on Shin.
My guess it's not the last we see of him. Might be wrong though but a lot of possibilities opens up with WBW, there is definetely gonna be more nightsister magic tho and i'm all for it
I actually liked the choreography, nothing stunning but still no super quick cuts, and also no silly closeups to avoid showing the action. Plus, it's again, action telling a story, and I love it.
Ikr? the attacks were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. And baylan using the same aggressive lightsaber form Ataru and stance as qui-gon? Loved it 😍
@@perssontm1628 Yes! The tension was incredible. I think they knew how to hold on to that tension for just the right amount. They are excelling at having so much told through action - epitomizing the show don't tell' rule of writing. I love it.
I think the perspectives osn this fall into 2 camps, people who love the prequel duels and people who do not. Im in the latter, but some people want super fast flashy spinny twirily lightsaber fights, and feel like anything less is less good. But i definitely think more deliberate and practical looking choreography looks a lot better
Sabine has now lived for years with the guilt of letting Ezra go. I think she's resigned now to do whatever it takes... That's why Ahsoka asked if she could depend on her. She knew. She even used that to hook Sabine in episode 1... I know how to get Ezra back...
Damn, i felt like you in your heart "were" Ashoka right there crying of joy seeing your old friend/jedi master again after so long time😭😭❤❤❤ I were right there with you😭❤
I think people are over hyping it because of all the trash choreography they've seen lately with the sequels and Obi wan and so forth. It's definitely better then all of that but it's still not fantastic. Best I can describe is it's a bit slow and clumsy looking. There's only so much you can do though when it comes to fake sword fighting. You need 2 very good swordsman to make it look good and realistic and actors usually are not sword experts. It takes years of training to get good.
@@gothamgoon4237 I don't get how anyone can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
@@perssontm1628 yeh, you don't get it, period. it sucks because it lacks logical cohesion, defies the basics of swordplay, even for starwars. do a round or two in kendo and you'll know why swinging your sword while the enemy is in distance doesn't work. and planting your foot on a wall behind you also does nothing, because a miniscule change in angle means you are send flying, not to mention that your leg can easily get swept.
@@danii7584 Huh?? There is literally unrealistic swordplay in EVERY lightsaber fight in Star Wars where someone easely could have gotten killed by their oponent... Is it your first time ever watching star wars?
@@perssontm1628 the difference being that those follow internal consistency and common sense. so is this your first time using common sense? but lets not be snide and look at this terrible excuse for a lightsaber fight: 1. planting your foot on the opposing wall does nothing because a slight shift in the angle would send you flying to the ground. a kick to your only leg planted on the floor sends you flying. 2. swirling around while exposing your back is a death sentence when facing a weapon that can melt you. these things make it a sh1t choreography. ahsoka wins by matching her opponent in strength during the leg plant scene when she was losing handily in the strength department?! anime has this trope where a weaker proptagonist suddenly finds strength out of nowhere during fights, and that's p1sspoor screenwriting.
Someone has REALLY been studying their samurai-style sword forms and putting them into the choreography for Dawson. Goes very well with the katana-styled saber hilts that Ahsoka wields. I loved how Huyang held his own against HK droids. Personally, I think that, since they de-aged Anakin at the end of the re-do of ROTJ from the older original Anakin, it makes sense that his age stays the same here. Considering how deeply flawed Sabine has been when her family is concerned (and counting Ezra as that), it also makes sense that she'd be that flawed to simply want to get to Ezra regardless of the cost. And, yes...I had the same general thought in that Marrok was a construct. But your theory of being a construct of Witch design makes it even better. His fatal flaw was the same as Maul's against Kenobi: Spinning the double-blade in overconfidence to be fatally wounded from that hubris.
Regarding Sabine, I think it a logical and fundamental conflict with trying to make a Mandalorian adopt the Jedi ways. Their entire culture revolves around the importance of family, of connection. The old Jedi way operates in diametric opposition to that. A Jedi is required to abandon connections and embrace only the will of the Force (in their interpretation of it). Jedi leave people behind to their fate if the greater good is served. Mandalorians may also do so only if the ongoing mission surely cannot be completed if they don’t but given the choice, they will fight to save their kin and believe the mission will benefit from their greater numbers and kinship. Jedi will leave even a Nabooan Senator behind in the desert waste if the greater good is in pursuing a valued enemy. They will take a farmboy away from his family. They will separate a slave child from his mother. TLDR: Sabine ain’t about that life.
Hyperspace rings are the things that transpor the thing in the middle. A smaller ship doesn't have big enough, or proper, hyperspace engines so a ring provides it. In this case, whatever massive fucking thing is on the other end needs the engine power of all those SSD hyperengines to help it travel.
Pretty much my thinking too. I was surprised when Hera brought him along but that gives him a more satisfying purpose in the narrative than just putting him in danger to stress Hera out.
@@zippomage She's wasted potential. I feel like she could've been a beloved character if she was actually well-written (not op/a Mary Sue) and if the Sequel Trilogy wasn't such a dumpster fire. I wanna like her, but they really haven't given us any reason to.
I think Ahsoka will find a way using the World between worlds. The moment I heard Morgan say "Thrawn calls me through time and space" I thought Ahsoka will use the place to save Ezra (maybe Sabine now as well...)
@@Digital111That seems like a more likely outcome. Although, the whole "Thrawn calls to me through time and space" thing kinda implies that Thrawn's actually in the WBW, or at least goes to it. In which case, why? He'd need the help of Ezra or some other force user to enter, so does Ezra have an alliance with Thrawn?
This episode is my favorite so far and it was really emotional hearing Hayden says Snips since I am a big Clone Wars fan and have been wanting to hear him say that line for so many years.
Sucks Ray Stevenson just recently passed away, he’s done a phenomenal job as Baylon Skoll, best Disney SW villain we’ve gotten in a long time, like Heath Ledger, he will never get to see the finished product. RIP. 😞
Interesting note on Marrok. The hyperspace ring is called "The Eye of Sion." Sion was a Sith Lord in the RPG Knights of the Old Republic 2. He kept himself alive through sheer hate and pain and perserverance in the Darkside when his physical form should have long crumbled to dust. Marrok is basically dust inhabiting what seems to be a sealed suit, almost like Johann Kraus from Hellboy or a Thousand Suns soldier from Warhammer. My guess, he's either some ancient Sith (I mean, less likely if Ahsoka made him look like nothing.) that's riding in a suit. Or he's a force spirit of some kind that Morgan Elsbeth bound into that Armor. Because as soon as you see the gas release, the body compresses. The 'Gas' or 'Spirit Dust' let's call it? Was also kind of green. Green "Force" or "Magic" energy is usually associated with Nightsister or Dathomir Witches. That's where my money is riding. So I'm willing to bet we might see either him again, or more "Inquisitors" like them.
True, which still doesn't set the bar very high, though. It's sad that it has come down to using the Lightsabres like it was a 60kg Claymore and overpowering the opponent instead of outskilling them. Episode 1-3 were kinda rough because they've just started using CGI there but even there Jedi appearted to be much more skilled and powerful. It's Disney, though, so they have to make it enjoyable to the mainstream so this is the result..
@@style0vertalent191 You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in Form IV Ataru, Ataru is an aggressive form which relies on overpowering your opponents and requires a lot of strength, if you think of this the fight makes more sense and is even deeper in lore. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
I really don't want to start a big argument here now. I mean sure, you always can find weird reasons for anything if you try hard enough I guess. If you wanna call actors, who don't care and train enough for their action performance a style, fine. If anyone had a more simple but powerful style it was Mace Windu and even his fights back then looked better than the canadian lumberjack duels we're getting now. I'm also not hating on this fight, though. This fight was pretty good compared to all the other Disney crap. I'm hating on Disney in general but that's a different story. What I am criticising is the fact, that the writers took away Ahsoka's brain in this fight and they do that to all their characters because their own brain is so small. They just didn't bother coming up with a better solution to reach this outcome than her holding a boiling hot sphere in her hand until that hand became useless and incapable of fighting so she was going to lose. THAT is the main problem with Disney. They think their audience is braindead and unfortunately it even works for the most part. One more thing - in the prequels, despite all the horrible CGI beginnings and stuff, you always had the impression that Jedi and Sith are somewhat superhuman, super skilled and well trained. Obviously as they train since being a child. Since Disney took over, that is gone. All of it. Instead we got Mary Sue Rey and Emo Lumberjack Kylo with his weird sword to make up for his lack of charisma and a threatening appearance. What is the only real unique selling point about this franchise compared to other SciFi? Right, Jedi, Sith, Lightsabers. Take all that away and you have the most generic SciFi. Good for them that there are cheap merchandise objects that can be placed as the main characters sidekick to sell a horrible show huh.. ;) @@perssontm1628
@@style0vertalent191 Hey, don't get me wrong, i'm not liking Disney in most stuff eather, Sequels are trash those lightsaber battles is more of what you mentioned, heavy swings with no purpose. Kenobi and the rest of the shows also have had major Disney problems. I'm not one of those who consumes anything and like it. But this fight was really cool and I don't get how you can critique it at all. Every swing was precise and calculated, the only difference was that he used strength to tire her out. You could see him using the same stance as qui-gon which again would explain WHY he relied on overpowering her. Mace windu was the only one who used Vapaad btw.
Well, it doesn't come off as easy as it used to in the sequels. It's like they made up the fights more like ordinary humans would fight and I think that reduces the overall quality heavily. I don't know how you can even say something like 'every swing was precise and calculated' because you just can't know. There are so many cuts in that fight because, trust me, without having all those cuts it would look like shit. Just compare Obi-Wan fighting Anakin in Ep 3 to this fight here. I mean come on, you can't possibly tell me that this was even half as good. I'm not even talking about individual performance here. The way it's made already is so much worse here compared to back then. Why? Before accepting these roles those actors probably never had anything to do with Star Wars and Lightsabers acting-wise. So at that point it just comes down to if they have that 'certain something' to do it. You know, it's one thing to spool down a choreo. It's a whole different level if you actually know what would be great now in a Jedi~ish fight. No one would have to write me a choreo, I could write my own and I promise you - it would be better than what we saw here. Like...so much better, oh my god. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Rosario Dawson doesn't have it. Getting even to where she is now was a lot of work I can guarantee it. The problem is, that Disney has realized, that their main audience are mainstreamers by now. They don't really care, they don't know any better. So they can save money toning down the fight quality to this instead of having great overall effects, many force effects, speed, high jumps or whatever. Again, I'm not trying to say this fight was garbage. But you're literally saying it was perfect, nothing can be criticized and that, sorry, is as false as it can be. It was probably the best Disney fight so far but again - that doesn't mean ANYTHING at all. But we can agree to disagree, that's fine with me. :)@@perssontm1628
I know Angela works in dental, but she can be a professor given her speaking abilities and well organized train of thoughts. Wow, nearly 70k subs. So fast. Well deserved.
Funny story that probably 500k people have already mentioned: There's a YT crew that does post-release "fixes" on CG work like you mentioned, and they did a fix for Luke on their channel following that finale. D+/Lucasfilm hired them based on that to help with Luke in the Book of Boba Fett episodes, and that's why he looks so much better there.
The best episode in Star Wars....period!!!! Ahsoka is my favorite Star Wars show after this las episode. The episode delivered...loved every minute of it.
Definetely not. Mando Luke they used CGI and it looked quite bad, in boba fett they used deepfake and it looked perfect. Seems they used CGI in this and you can see that it doesn't look like a human. In boba fett you could totally believe that Luke was actually that young. Here it just looked animated.
I really enjoyed that episode... I thought sabine was acting in-character tbh.. and I think Ahsoka was sensing some of this possibility and hence all the questions at the start... World between worlds was epic, cant wait to see where they take us next! But the stand out for me was Baylon and Hati...
Lightsaber fights: The good ones tell a story of their own. Ray Stevenson's character was using his size advantage and was using big, heavy blows and making the most of his longer reach. Ahsoka was fighting with agility and finesse. When you get that combination fighting each other, it can look a little clumsy because the big guy can power through with his strength, but he leaves himself open to counters. He has to hold back a little, while still pushing his faster and more agile opponent to keep her from getting up close. And with lightsabers, it only takes one mistake. If it were two agile fighters, it would look much more acrobatic and good for the screen. Two big fighters and it would have looked savage, with big blows exchanged. Mix of the two and they're both slightly out of tempo with each other, but the big guy has longer reach. Plus, while Ray Stevenson has done some fight scenes in other things he's done, he's still an actor, not a martial artist. Rosario Dawson can dance, and as far as fight choreography goes, it's effectively dancing. Did you know that Michelle Yeoh isn't a martial artist, she's a dancer? Yet she can look like she's spent years doing martial arts.
Episode confirmed one of the darker guesses about what's been going on in the intervening years since Rebels - Clan Wren got wiped out in the Purge. No wonder Sabine is so desperate to find Ezra.
When we transition from the seas to the World Between Worlds, Ahsoka appears to have the same green smokey wisps on the edges of her form. We saw the same effect on the holograms on Morgan's ship, the Eye of Sion. Which I think uses Nightsister magick. So I think when Ahsoka grabbed the map ball with her bare hands, she was burned by the same Magick. How it saved her from falling off the cliff & transported her to the WBW I'm not sure. But I think this will ultimately turn out to be a Magick induced vision while the real Ahsoka is knocked out on a rock at the bottom of the cliff. And that the Nightsister magick assisted vision is Ahsoka's subconscious finally allowing her to confront her past. Which is why Hayden is de-aged, because it's the Anakin from her past. Perhaps then she will figure out that Sabine didn't fail her but Ahsoka's own trust issues but the idea of betrayal in Sabine's mind when it wasn't in there in the 1st place. I don't think I'm wording this right, but if you watch Star Wars Explained, Alex puts my feelings to words better than I could state them.
Did you see the cliff? It was a steep edge with nothing but rocks and water below, if she didn't die by the fall and is unconscious she will drown anyways lol. Shes definetely there. Could be because she had the daughter of mortis life in her. The owl saving her and sending her there, Anakin pulled her through. Or shes just dead and can come back because of Mortis stuff. All of them makes more sense lol.
Great reaction and thoughts! Personally I really liked the decision that Sabine didn't destroy the map. It made sense to me as the Sabine in this series is far more jaded and isolated. Most of all she seemed incredibly lonely. In addition her relationship with Ashoka is incredible strained. So when Ashoka commits the classic Jedi mistake of demanding the sacrifice of one of her last emotional relationships and connection I was not surprised that Sabine didn't want to go through with it. Besides from the beginning Ashoka framed their mission as a way to get Ezra Back, while in truth she cared far more about stopping Thrawn. So her willingness to sacrifice any chance of getting him back, probably felt like a huge betrayal to Sabine. Which made her very susceptible to being convinced by Baylan.
Ashoka was making the logical decision. How many will die at the hands of Thrawn once he's able to rebuild the Empire? All her current family could die as well (Hera, Chopper, Jaycen, Ashoka, Nuyang, Zeb). I know Ezra was very important to her but you can't sacrifice an entire galaxy for one person.
@@swifty1969 I agree with you. Ashoka would have made the moral decision(at least according to idea that the need of the many outweigh the need of the few or the one), but I personally like it when protagonists act "selfishly" or emotionally over logically. Makes for a more interesting story. But I think Ashoka is also to some degree to blame how things went down. There is a limit on what level of selflessness you can demand from someone and she didn't recognize that Sabine reached her limit. It was basically like going into battle with a brittle sword. Which is of course the result of them not having a functional master and apprentince relationship. I really respect the show for going that route, as they showed that their relationship didn't really work and now we see the consequences of that.
I think we say a force block, from Shin, of an expected force punch from Sabine that didn't come. Hence Shin was surprised that Sabine really has no light side power.
The title of this one is really clever, since "Fallen Jedi" can be applied to so many of the characters in the episode. Baylan, a fallen Jedi now using the Dark Side (at least a little) and working with the forces of evil. Ahsoka, who abandoned the Jedi Order, falling in a sense, and also quite literally fell off a cliff this episode. Sabine, who you could argue falls off of the typical Jedi path by giving in to emotion and handing the map to Baylan. And lastly, to Anakin, whose fall to the dark side changed the galaxy forever. I've always thought that Rosario Dawson's Ahsoka was decent, but missing just a little tiny something that really made her click in the role, but in that little smile/laugh after Huyang requested for her and Sabine to stick together, I saw the Ahsoka I always knew from Rebels and the Clone Wars. While she's been through a lot and that would change a person, in Rebels at least she always had just a little more charm and warmth than we've seen from live action Ahsoka so far - until that moment! More moments like that please! Dawson is a really good actress and the more we utilise that talent, the better! Surprised you weren't a fan of the choreography for the fights this time around - I really liked all of the fights in this one! I thought the choreo was a lot better than the first Sabine vs Shin fight, and a bit better than the first Ahsoka vs Marrok fight on Corellia. Baylan has a simple efficiency of movement to him that I really like because it allows him to demonstrate strength, like the way he pushed Ahsoka's blade when they were in a blade-lock, and to demonstrate experience in how he deflects Sabine's blaster bolts with no wasted movement. It makes things intense, but in a different way to how Star Wars' duels have been intense before. It's not flashy, but it's kind of brutal. Regarding the Sabine vs Shin "Force Push" I interpreted it more as Shin just flinching in anticipation of the push rather than Sabine actually mustering enough power to push Shin's head around, but there was a hint of the Force sound effect in there, so I wouldn't be mad if I were wrong. Rockem-Sockem Huyang was great as well of course. Marrok bursting into Nightsister Magicks like one of their reanimated zombies is fascinating, I hope we learn more there! Sabine's choice makes sense to me. If her family died in the Mandalorian purge, and with Hera and Zeb busy trying to sort the New Republic out (and with Jacen in Hera's case), Sabine probably feels totally alone, so the slightest hope of bringing back Ezra, the family member she arguably grew closest to, probably means everything to her. Lastly, mediocre-at-best CGI de-aging affects aside (I'd literally not have bothered, Hayden doesn't look *that* much older!), I couldn't be happier that we get to see Anakin, and in The World Between Worlds, no less! Although, with that musical cue at the end, I'm uncertain how pleasant the rest of their reunion may be... All in all I think I enjoyed this episode the most of the season so far, and I can't wait to see what's next.
Nobody ever notices the use of the Dark side Power; "dominate will". Beylan totally used it on Sabine, just like Palpatine did to Anakin in the chancellor's office in Episode III. I also really liked how Ahsoka kept switching fighting stances while squaring off with Marrok. First she did her classic one Saber, backward stance, then she beat him after switching to Anakin's stance.
Savage Opress was a warrior augmented through Dathomiri magicks, and he also leaked green smoke when he died. I wonder if Marrok was similarly augmented by Morgan.
Tears of joy! it's like seeing an old family/friend member back from the grave....it's tear dropping moment! LOVED IT! n Can't wait to see where it goes next week....
So Ahsoka getting her hand burned going to turn out to be like Toht in Raiders of the Lost Ark where he had the head of the staff burned into his palm, they going to use Ahsoka's burn to piece the map together?
I'm a grown-ass 56 year old and I had exactly the same reaction as you did when I heard Anakin speak! I got broke, but in the best Star Wars way possible. I agree with your comments about the de-aging, but the overall effect was still so........oh boy! I totally agree with everything else you said, about the character development, the choreography, but this series is still amazing and has the feels about it. Bring on the whales I say!!
This is more than Rebels (which is already great), this is a little exercise in style and a tribute to spaghetti westerns, Samurai films and the legendary Zatoichi. There is even a nod to Metropolis. The handling of the camera and its slow but tense pace is a visual treat. The performances live up to the simple but effective story. And Baylan, by the gods, Baylan. I simply love it.
Ahsoka has died a legit 3 times (on Mortis, on Malachor, and now here), I don't think she can die anymore since Mortis unless someone gets a hold of the Mortis gods sword since the Sister transferred her life force what ever into Ahsoka.
I like the de-aging it makes sense, His younger form would be more recognizable to her. By this time I'm sure she knows Vader is out there so to see the same version of Anakin as the one she parted from would bring her more peace, make her trust him more as I'm sure he'll be important to her escape. But as always thank you for the moments and review of this episode along with future ones. I always look for your reactions I refuse to watch anyone else's until I see yours. You just feel like you're watching the episode or movie with someone real, you don't hold back, you make jokes, puns, you cry which is just such a human thing to do and something that helps us all relate and feel connected to you I freakin love this channel. Never stop being you Damnit 😊
You have to keep in mind that Sabine's entire family was recently killed on Mandalore (probably during the purge?) She views Ezra as one of the few people she has left that she considers family.
On the off chance no one else has mentioned it, Paul Hyung-Sun Lee (Carson) has been tapped to play Uncle Iroh in the upcoming live-action _Avatar: The Last Airbender._
I wonder if by the end of this season we are going to either hear Ahsoka say "I am no Jedi" again or after meeting with Anakin if he will teach a lesson about his fall to the dark side and she will return to the Jedi way to help build the Jedi order with Luke.
Hey, Angela! Easily one of the high points of the DPlus era ranking with the heist episode of "Andor" and eclipsed only by the Season 2 finale of "The Mandalorian"! Huyang throws down! Ahsoka said the thing! "HEIR TO THE EMPIRE"! Shout-out to Timothy Zahn! Fan theories shredded as cleanly as a laser swipe from Ahsoka shredded Marrok! Either he was a gaseous alien in a pressurized suit like Johann Krauss from "Hellboy" and the Inquisitor from "Tales of the Jedi" or he was a dead Inquisitor reanimated by Elsbeth's Nightsister magick! They should have used a more phosphorescent green vapor to eliminate debate. I loved the Sabine Force fake-out that took Shin by surprise! "You have no power." "Yeah? I'm still a Mandalorian, bi%ch!" PAUL SUN-HYUNG LEE crosses over from "Mandalorian" as he reprises CARSON TEVA! Baylan knew Anakin but loathes his transformation into Vader. He genuinely respects Ahsoka. He is not a Thrawn fanboy. He feels morally obligated to fulfill a purpose that serves the greater good. His motivations remain as compelling as they are mysterious. The ladies are saying he's putting out hot daddy vibes but, whatever it is, RAY STEVENSON was magnificent! Loved Ahsoka's samurai half-squat stance with leveled sword. Baylan is a beast like an armored medieval knight with a broadsword! Heavy, arm-quaking blows! The map sphere scorches Ahsoka's hand! Did it leave an imprint in the flesh? Sabine lost Ursa and Tristan in the NIGHT OF A THOUSAND TEARS! Ahsoka prevented her from being at her family's side when Mandalore fell! Treachery! Sabine can't bring herself to abandon Ezra. This is why Jedi have no attachments! Poor kid. The 'Ghost' and the X-wing escort thought they could block the hyperspace ring from transiting but they had no idea the MEGASTRUCTURE had the power to gouge a hole in space-time right through them completely avoiding high-velocity collision! They got swept up like leaves in the backwash eddy! THE WORLD BETWEEN WORLDS! The NEXUS of all reality! Did Ahsoka die a third time or did the essence of the Daughter within her enable her to access this plane inadvertently as she fell? De-aged HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN! Snips and Skyguy reunite but why does Vader's theme play? JACEN is a chip off the old block and feels a tremor in the Force! He gets the honor of the franchise's catchphrase: "I've got a bad feeling about this." Lol. Thank you, Dave Filoni!
To each their own and your mileage may vary, of course, but I thought this ep was exactly Sabine, through and through. She’s always been good and always cared about the larger universe, and she’s always tried to do the right thing. But she’s also passionate, impetuous, stubborn, and so loyal that it can often drift past the point of good sense. Add on to that what Baylan was saying, about how apparently Ahsoka wouldn’t trust Sabine and let her go to help her family fight for Mandalore when the empire glassed it (savage, Snips…) and the rift and bad feelings between she and Ahsoka make sense, as does Sabine deciding this time she’s not going to miss a chance to go save her family (here, Ezra) no matter what Ahsoka thinks. It’s not a good decision, but our characters can never grow and learn (much less progress the plot the way Dave needed her to there) without making bad decisions sometimes. Also - there is simply no way Sabine doesn’t have a plan in mind. She’s not accepting Baylan’s words at face value, I don’t think, she’s using him as a way to get to Ezra, with some kind of plan involving joining up with Ezra when she finds him and stopping Thrawn and Baylan and Shin and Morgan then. Of course it won’t quite go that way, but I’m pretty sure that’s where her head is at.
Well Ahsoka said, she needs Sabine to be herself not a Jedi. So maybe she knew that Sabine was going to do what she did and get on that ship heading to Thrawn and Ezra.
tbh i think Sabine isn't the same person we knew back in rebels and handing over the map has a lot to do with what happened between rebels and now that we haven't seen (yet, hopefully). baylan closed his eyes and was reading her in that moment, her worst fears. the last time she listened to ahsoka, her whole bio family died in the purge of mandalore and he's using her desperation not to lose ezra forever. she can't get her mom and dad and brother back. but this is her chance to get ezra. he tried to do that with ahsoka, too, put her off balance by bringing up abandoning anakin, but sabine doesn't have the emotional control ahsoka does. you can probably make an argument that they should have done a full reveal on what happened to her so we understand why now she can't risk losing this chance to get him back, but i like what they are doing. the little hints. im hoping we get some flashback peeks about it in the WBW. i was having fun with all the marrok theorizing but i love what they did. omg and literal lol. i also hope that they handle it right to explain the WBW to casuals who haven't watched the animated shows. i want that. emotional closure w anakin and ahsoka. flashbacks. and the thrawn drop. that's what i want from 5.
I just wanna say that the transition from watching the star map site and panning out over the sea and then to Ahsoka waking up in the world between worlds is the sickest shit. Whatever cinematographer came up with that transition deserves several pats on the back.
I said this in another comment section but did anyone else notice the stoic look on Ahsoka's face completely went away when she heard anakin? She went from super serious Ahsoka, and right back into classic wide-eyed Ahsoka mode in an instant. Great little detail there.
yeah, she has not heard "Snips" in a WHILE
@@najtrowsAnakin was so important to her and his downfall and what he became had to weigh heavily on her. It would explain why she was so different from the last time we had seen her on Rebels and up until we saw her in Mando Season 2.
@@LetsGetitBoahplus you also have to remember the last time she saw Anakin/Vader was in the Temple when he tried to kill her, so the fact he’s now back in his true form and smiling at her it probably threw Ahsoka off guard
@@LetsGetitBoahYea, she probably needs som closure about that. Also the info we got about her and Sabines falling out because of Sabines parents passing might be part of her low key mood. Many things have probably contributed to that and I bet we'll see more "Snips" in her on the latter half of the show.. at least in the end hopefully.
Fantastic acting!!
This was so Star Wars it was heartbreaking. Why can't we get this all the time?
The makers of the show, mistakenly think that too much classic moments, will lead to boredom. So they space them few and far between. The fans, like us, don't agree but we don't get a vote.
@@raymondamador1487 That's not how it works. =P Creators don't deliberately space out their best work to stave off people becoming desensitized to it. Creators are imperfect. We don't get it all the time because people and circumstances are inconsistent.
It is boring to watch just fan service. It feels most of time pointless fan service. Sometimes it is okay. Like now.@@raymondamador1487
Because they won’t let Dave run everything. They have that “the force is female” lunatic that tried to ruin Star Wars with the sequel trilogy.
@@aaronboone8097 So your premise is that Karen Kennedy won't let Dave have more classical Star Wars moments in any series? Except if this was "the force is female" influence, wouldn't they add more classical Star Wars moments into a series in which the main cast is female? Didn't they add Luke Skywalker into Mando and The Book of Bobba Fet? Doesn't that make your assertion false or misleading? 💯✌️
“I’m very smart and I feel suuuuper stupid”
- me, when my Marrok theory went up in smoke 🤣
Just like Marrok, am I right?
@@s.k.6100 Missed the pun there, didn't ya? 😆
Saying that you're supersmart ironically makes you look stupid lol
He did call her snips. Marrock dissapating into a puff of green smoke was great.
people are missing a pretty crucial piece of development for sabine that was revealed in this episode: her entire family was killed during the purge on mandalore. When she let ezra go, she had all of them to go back to, and now she's pretty much all alone
well....except for Hera and Zeb and Chopper and Ahsoka and now Jacen
Except we're being told so. We dont see her in sorrow, peril or anything that was caused by that loss either...so it's largely meaningless.
Boohoo, it doesn't excuse her stupid and selfish behavior.
My theory is that the hyperspace ring is traveling empty (no ship), in order to bring Thrawn's ship back with them.
Or a certain type of engine/forge. 🤔
thats a bingo.
Why not take any ship with and leave it there🤷♂️
@@basilisk.. They're planning on bringing Thrawn back with his flagship Star Destroyer, the Chimaera.
that's exactly what is happening.....also bets on Ahsoka using the world between worlds to get to the other galaxy seeing that the hyperspace ring and the key are gone/destroyed
I can see why filoni himself is directing the next episode is all I'll say.
No hands will touch this other than the creator himself.
Seems like an ego move, since the next episode is hollow fluff fanservice.
@@CptApplestrudl I wonder how youll look when i $#!T you out camp boy appl strudl w/ a very sweet glow on you.
@@CptApplestrudl 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
my god, Ray was such a talented man. He was incredible in Black Sails as well.
His part in black sails was just fantastic. Until Ahsoka I had most recently seen him in S3 of Das Boot in which he was also stellar, such a shame to hear he passed
And Dexter
The last 30 seconds were something else... Was left speechless after the end of this episode, something that hasn't happened for me with Star Wars in a very long time. Hayden did his homework and you can hear him trying to give the Matt Lanter inflections and I love it... The next episode is gonna be insane and I cannot wait!
Regarding the Sabine and Shin fight scene, I don't think Sabine actually used the Force on Shin. I think it was more Shin flinching, anticipating herself getting Force Pushed by Sabine, not unlike how we naturally flinch when we think someone's about to throw something at our face.
Also, I think the fight choreography for Baylan is interesting as it is very much based around knightly sword techniques. Which, I feel is intentional to code him as something of an anti-villain, perhaps as a foil to Ahsoka's more anti-hero traits.
Ikr? I don't get how she can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
@@perssontm1628 I don't think she "hated" on the choreography. I was simply highlighting the idea behind it. However, ultimately, choreography is subjective and down to personal taste. Just because something was done with a reason, doesn't automatically mean people have to like it or to even agree that was the right choice by the choreographer.
Well, my big complaint is regarding the super-slow spin moves. Spins with swords are always terrible, but they were tolerable in Clone Wars and Rebels because they were lightning-fast. Ahsoka's spins here were slow enough an 88 year old blind man could have stabbed her before she finished, much less a Jedi with Jedi reflexes.
i think if you imagine Baylon fighting with a huge two handed claymore and Ahsoka fighting with a katana, they're choreography is much better. i actually loved it!!
It was really well done actually I too agree.
Ikr? I don't get how she can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
Yup. +1 for great fight.
I overlooked Luke looking bad in Mando because it was awesome. So I will overlook this because it is awesome.
I really don't see what everyone else is seeing. I have had zero issues with the de-aging CGI
@@NathanJasper I felt that way with the Tarkin CGI 🤷♂️ I took extra looks at Anakin and I don’t think it’s as bad as it was the first time I saw it.
I actually think they did a really good job here with Anakin. I mean what do you want? Man everybody wants things to be 100 million percent perfect. Luke in Boba looked AMAZING
@@kristymcdowell6185 I thought Luke in Boba looked pretty good as well. Except when he talked. But for a second when I first saw it I thought it was a real person.
@@kristymcdowell6185 Luke in BOBF looked amazing because they used different technology, they used deep fake instead of CGI. They went back to CGI with Anakin and it looked far worse than it could have with deep fake. Whatever, still a fantastic episode...
There was an episode in Rebels where the spirits of NightSisters posessed bodies of Sabine and Kanan. To me it looked like Morrok was under that kind of "spell".
I don't agree, it was more like the first inquister that Sabine killed. The one with the cool mask, and she beat him with his own saber.
@@Koyotee25you mean ahsoka ? sabine has never killed an inquisitor lol
@@TDhexada , yes, sorry, I meant Ahsoka
One day, fans will realize that anticipation and theorizing only leads to disappointment. The theories about starkiller, cal, ezra and everyone else being under that mask only leads to disappointment when it was never in the plans. Its weird that everyone wants to be ahead of the show instead of just enjoying it
You look at this totally wrong, nothing can ever beat the imagination and that is why theories are so fun. They make you invested and allow you to dream about something you enjoy.
I actually prefer some things never being answered because it allows me to fill in the gaps. Can it sting when they do, sure but it can also surprise and allow the process to start all over again.
@@HouseOfMontague1 Star Wars is notoriously bad at over explaining gaps in the name of fan service, especially in prequel territory. Remember...?
"Traveling alone? OK then, we'll call you Mr. SOLO" *wink wink*
given the viewership numbers it's comical that you think ppl will not forget about this.
I think for a lot of people, myself included, theorizing helps us express thoughts and anticipation for the media we are enjoying. If SW was something i could keep in it's oen box and not think about outsode of my viewing experience, it would mean i enjoy the show a lot less. For some people analyzing and picking something apart is part of how we enjoy it.
I think with this can be a double edged sword for some because they end up expecting and wanting their pet theory to be true. I do think that goes along with your main point, because you'll always be disappointed. I however, always have hope that what they do will be better. The plesant surprise of the show being better than i predicted is always way better than being proven right
Me: *sees notification about upload* "I bet Angela started crying when she heard/saw Anakin" *watches video* Yep, called it. I am not in any way insulting your emotions, I was right there with you.
Now, this really is where the fun begins!
The bad guys who display an air of calm introspection, and never go over the top are the ones you always want to know more about.
So you indicate this isn't a Sabine move? We find out from Balen that Sabina is an orphan now--ALL her family is dead at the hands of the Empire during the Purge. And this is the cause of the bad blood between Sabine and Ashoka. So it explains EVERYTHING about her unbalanced state of mind and manipulation by Balen.
hahahaha I just saw that part and I scrolled down to see if someone else thought the same thing I did. This is Sabine that has nothing else besides Hera.
So much emotions!!
Da fuk peak? U new bro? Get off your high horse.
If you look back on the fight between Ashoka and the Inquisitor watch how she changes her sabre techniques, she was using Anakin and then Obi-Wan
Obi-Wans form is defensive though, doesn't it make more sense the other way around? Also did you see that Baylan used the same stance and lightsaber form as Qui-Gon? It makes so much sense with how he overpowered her becuase Ataru is agressive and all, I loved it 😍
The saber fights leaned more on samurai films where the moves are slow and precise. Its most clear in the Ahsoka Marrock fight.
I actually really love Sabine in this episode (and the show in general), because the inconsistency with Rebels tells a story of change. And we got clear clues to that here, too, with Balin revealing the tragedy of her family. Ahsoka is also different, and I think that's also telling about change; she let Balin get in her head and literally unbalance her, and she dipped into dark side rage with Shin. As much as I love Rebels (probably my favorite animated show), I don't think I would have wanted to see the characters exactly as they were and I'm very satisfied to see the weight of the years on all of them.
So like Ahsoka is either dead, was pulled in by someone like she was in Rebels by Ezra, or like some unknown Mortis thing like she's a god that goes to the world between worlds because of the sisters sacrifice. I don't know but they definitely have my attention now and I can't wait to see the next episode! Also Anakin saying Hello Snips had me screaming.
I'm leaning more on the daughter link. Or that planet is some force nexus or something
Or she just lost consciousness and gets washed up on the beach lol
My thought is leaning a bit toward the fact she grabbed the map. Morgan herself said Thrawn was calling her across space and time. Perhaps the combination of the magic powering the map with Ahsoka already having been there or her link with the daughter let her slip back in.
@@scottjudd3044 Considering Thrawn famously has zero connection to the force that was just a metaphor
There is still a story to be told of the balance maintained/lost by the Anchorites. Also the new ancient technology they cross every now and then... who were the ppl before and how did they manage to blend the force in with machines and places.
on Sabine; i'd say a few years without her clan and being alone on Lothal has probably weakened her resolve when it comes to leaving Ezra
She lost her entire family during the Purge of Mandalore. Ezra and Hera are all she has left, and she's probably blaming herself for ALL of it
@@billeverson5821 a mando alone in the world is a terrible thing; as they say
she still had Hera, Chopper , Zeb (I'm sure he's somewhere) and her master Ashoka. She knew Ezra the least and still decided to sacrifice the rest of her family for one person not to mention the countless deaths that will be caused by the new Empire led by Thrawn. That was extremely selfish of her. @@billeverson5821
Marrok could have been more, as a character, much like Darth Maul. But Ivanna Sakhno is so good as Shin and is killing it. Sabine knows to keep her eye on Shin.
My guess it's not the last we see of him. Might be wrong though but a lot of possibilities opens up with WBW, there is definetely gonna be more nightsister magic tho and i'm all for it
it looked perfectly fine and the fight scnces was fantastic !
I actually liked the choreography, nothing stunning but still no super quick cuts, and also no silly closeups to avoid showing the action. Plus, it's again, action telling a story, and I love it.
Ikr? the attacks were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. And baylan using the same aggressive lightsaber form Ataru and stance as qui-gon? Loved it 😍
@@perssontm1628 Yes! The tension was incredible. I think they knew how to hold on to that tension for just the right amount.
They are excelling at having so much told through action - epitomizing the show don't tell' rule of writing. I love it.
I think the perspectives osn this fall into 2 camps, people who love the prequel duels and people who do not. Im in the latter, but some people want super fast flashy spinny twirily lightsaber fights, and feel like anything less is less good. But i definitely think more deliberate and practical looking choreography looks a lot better
Sabine has now lived for years with the guilt of letting Ezra go. I think she's resigned now to do whatever it takes...
That's why Ahsoka asked if she could depend on her. She knew. She even used that to hook Sabine in episode 1... I know how to get Ezra back...
OMG I went to a meeting came back and you're in tears! WTF. rewinding! huuuugs n comforts.
When I heard "Snipps", the tears rolled.
I didn’t have the captions on, so I wasn’t sure if I heard it or not
Ahsoka looks so happy to see Anakin goes to show how much she loves him even after everything he has done!
Yeah, she felt a lot of guilt for leaving him and seeing him as Vader so seing him like Anakin is probably so meaningful to her.
Damn, i felt like you in your heart "were" Ashoka right there crying of joy seeing your old friend/jedi master again after so long time😭😭❤❤❤
I were right there with you😭❤
Not impressed by the fight choreography ? Are you kidding me ? It's the best we got in years !
I think people are over hyping it because of all the trash choreography they've seen lately with the sequels and Obi wan and so forth. It's definitely better then all of that but it's still not fantastic. Best I can describe is it's a bit slow and clumsy looking. There's only so much you can do though when it comes to fake sword fighting. You need 2 very good swordsman to make it look good and realistic and actors usually are not sword experts. It takes years of training to get good.
@@gothamgoon4237 I don't get how anyone can hate on this choreography, I thought they were incredible, they were calcualted, precise and it felt like every swing had meaning behind it, you could see them trying to read eachother, those first 3 clashes trying out the waters, so good. You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in the aggressive Form IV Ataru, you could see this with how aggressive he was and each swing was strong. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
@@perssontm1628 yeh, you don't get it, period. it sucks because it lacks logical cohesion, defies the basics of swordplay, even for starwars. do a round or two in kendo and you'll know why swinging your sword while the enemy is in distance doesn't work. and planting your foot on a wall behind you also does nothing, because a miniscule change in angle means you are send flying, not to mention that your leg can easily get swept.
@@danii7584 Huh?? There is literally unrealistic swordplay in EVERY lightsaber fight in Star Wars where someone easely could have gotten killed by their oponent... Is it your first time ever watching star wars?
@@perssontm1628 the difference being that those follow internal consistency and common sense. so is this your first time using common sense?
but lets not be snide and look at this terrible excuse for a lightsaber fight:
1. planting your foot on the opposing wall does nothing because a slight shift in the angle would send you flying to the ground. a kick to your only leg planted on the floor sends you flying.
2. swirling around while exposing your back is a death sentence when facing a weapon that can melt you.
these things make it a sh1t choreography. ahsoka wins by matching her opponent in strength during the leg plant scene when she was losing handily in the strength department?! anime has this trope where a weaker proptagonist suddenly finds strength out of nowhere during fights, and that's p1sspoor screenwriting.
Someone has REALLY been studying their samurai-style sword forms and putting them into the choreography for Dawson. Goes very well with the katana-styled saber hilts that Ahsoka wields.
I loved how Huyang held his own against HK droids.
Personally, I think that, since they de-aged Anakin at the end of the re-do of ROTJ from the older original Anakin, it makes sense that his age stays the same here.
Considering how deeply flawed Sabine has been when her family is concerned (and counting Ezra as that), it also makes sense that she'd be that flawed to simply want to get to Ezra regardless of the cost.
And, yes...I had the same general thought in that Marrok was a construct. But your theory of being a construct of Witch design makes it even better. His fatal flaw was the same as Maul's against Kenobi: Spinning the double-blade in overconfidence to be fatally wounded from that hubris.
Regarding Sabine, I think it a logical and fundamental conflict with trying to make a Mandalorian adopt the Jedi ways. Their entire culture revolves around the importance of family, of connection.
The old Jedi way operates in diametric opposition to that. A Jedi is required to abandon connections and embrace only the will of the Force (in their interpretation of it).
Jedi leave people behind to their fate if the greater good is served. Mandalorians may also do so only if the ongoing mission surely cannot be completed if they don’t but given the choice, they will fight to save their kin and believe the mission will benefit from their greater numbers and kinship.
Jedi will leave even a Nabooan Senator behind in the desert waste if the greater good is in pursuing a valued enemy. They will take a farmboy away from his family. They will separate a slave child from his mother.
TLDR: Sabine ain’t about that life.
Hyperspace rings are the things that transpor the thing in the middle. A smaller ship doesn't have big enough, or proper, hyperspace engines so a ring provides it. In this case, whatever massive fucking thing is on the other end needs the engine power of all those SSD hyperengines to help it travel.
I'm calling it now: Jacen Syndulla is gonna have to use the force to connect with the Purrgil and take our reinforcements to Peridea.
Pretty much my thinking too. I was surprised when Hera brought him along but that gives him a more satisfying purpose in the narrative than just putting him in danger to stress Hera out.
how do you feel about Rey?
@@zippomage She's wasted potential. I feel like she could've been a beloved character if she was actually well-written (not op/a Mary Sue) and if the Sequel Trilogy wasn't such a dumpster fire. I wanna like her, but they really haven't given us any reason to.
I think Ahsoka will find a way using the World between worlds.
The moment I heard Morgan say "Thrawn calls me through time and space" I thought Ahsoka will use the place to save Ezra (maybe Sabine now as well...)
@@Digital111That seems like a more likely outcome. Although, the whole "Thrawn calls to me through time and space" thing kinda implies that Thrawn's actually in the WBW, or at least goes to it. In which case, why? He'd need the help of Ezra or some other force user to enter, so does Ezra have an alliance with Thrawn?
This episode is my favorite so far and it was really emotional hearing Hayden says Snips since I am a big Clone Wars fan and have been wanting to hear him say that line for so many years.
I didn't think the de-aging on Anakin looked that bad but it was so funny when you said "that looks really bad, I just had to say it" lol🤣
+ToonRaider
Considering that those same people complained that he wasn't de-aged in Obi-Wan.
Jacen saying " i have a bad feeling " = Jedi Heritage, starting to come thru :)
"Hello Snips." Instant tears. 😢
I missed it because of no captions being on, ugh! The one thing I wanted
@@funnylilgalreacts I’ve noticed a lot of reactors are missing it. It is very softly spoken tbh.
Sucks Ray Stevenson just recently passed away, he’s done a phenomenal job as Baylon Skoll, best Disney SW villain we’ve gotten in a long time, like Heath Ledger, he will never get to see the finished product. RIP. 😞
Interesting note on Marrok.
The hyperspace ring is called "The Eye of Sion."
Sion was a Sith Lord in the RPG Knights of the Old Republic 2. He kept himself alive through sheer hate and pain and perserverance in the Darkside when his physical form should have long crumbled to dust.
Marrok is basically dust inhabiting what seems to be a sealed suit, almost like Johann Kraus from Hellboy or a Thousand Suns soldier from Warhammer.
My guess, he's either some ancient Sith (I mean, less likely if Ahsoka made him look like nothing.) that's riding in a suit. Or he's a force spirit of some kind that Morgan Elsbeth bound into that Armor. Because as soon as you see the gas release, the body compresses. The 'Gas' or 'Spirit Dust' let's call it? Was also kind of green. Green "Force" or "Magic" energy is usually associated with Nightsister or Dathomir Witches.
That's where my money is riding. So I'm willing to bet we might see either him again, or more "Inquisitors" like them.
This is the very convo they had about making the hard decision. And she couldn't do it even after she thought ahsoka was dead 😢
probably best sabre fights we've got from Disney; really demonstrates difference between old jedi order training and what came afterwards
True, which still doesn't set the bar very high, though. It's sad that it has come down to using the Lightsabres like it was a 60kg Claymore and overpowering the opponent instead of outskilling them. Episode 1-3 were kinda rough because they've just started using CGI there but even there Jedi appearted to be much more skilled and powerful. It's Disney, though, so they have to make it enjoyable to the mainstream so this is the result..
@@style0vertalent191 You can see Baylan used the same stance as qui-gon meaning he specialiced in Form IV Ataru, Ataru is an aggressive form which relies on overpowering your opponents and requires a lot of strength, if you think of this the fight makes more sense and is even deeper in lore. Idk man I LOVED that fight and I honestly don't understand how anyone could hate on it.
I really don't want to start a big argument here now. I mean sure, you always can find weird reasons for anything if you try hard enough I guess. If you wanna call actors, who don't care and train enough for their action performance a style, fine. If anyone had a more simple but powerful style it was Mace Windu and even his fights back then looked better than the canadian lumberjack duels we're getting now. I'm also not hating on this fight, though. This fight was pretty good compared to all the other Disney crap. I'm hating on Disney in general but that's a different story. What I am criticising is the fact, that the writers took away Ahsoka's brain in this fight and they do that to all their characters because their own brain is so small. They just didn't bother coming up with a better solution to reach this outcome than her holding a boiling hot sphere in her hand until that hand became useless and incapable of fighting so she was going to lose. THAT is the main problem with Disney. They think their audience is braindead and unfortunately it even works for the most part.
One more thing - in the prequels, despite all the horrible CGI beginnings and stuff, you always had the impression that Jedi and Sith are somewhat superhuman, super skilled and well trained. Obviously as they train since being a child. Since Disney took over, that is gone. All of it. Instead we got Mary Sue Rey and Emo Lumberjack Kylo with his weird sword to make up for his lack of charisma and a threatening appearance. What is the only real unique selling point about this franchise compared to other SciFi? Right, Jedi, Sith, Lightsabers. Take all that away and you have the most generic SciFi. Good for them that there are cheap merchandise objects that can be placed as the main characters sidekick to sell a horrible show huh.. ;) @@perssontm1628
@@style0vertalent191 Hey, don't get me wrong, i'm not liking Disney in most stuff eather, Sequels are trash those lightsaber battles is more of what you mentioned, heavy swings with no purpose. Kenobi and the rest of the shows also have had major Disney problems. I'm not one of those who consumes anything and like it. But this fight was really cool and I don't get how you can critique it at all.
Every swing was precise and calculated, the only difference was that he used strength to tire her out. You could see him using the same stance as qui-gon which again would explain WHY he relied on overpowering her. Mace windu was the only one who used Vapaad btw.
Well, it doesn't come off as easy as it used to in the sequels. It's like they made up the fights more like ordinary humans would fight and I think that reduces the overall quality heavily. I don't know how you can even say something like 'every swing was precise and calculated' because you just can't know. There are so many cuts in that fight because, trust me, without having all those cuts it would look like shit. Just compare Obi-Wan fighting Anakin in Ep 3 to this fight here. I mean come on, you can't possibly tell me that this was even half as good. I'm not even talking about individual performance here. The way it's made already is so much worse here compared to back then. Why? Before accepting these roles those actors probably never had anything to do with Star Wars and Lightsabers acting-wise. So at that point it just comes down to if they have that 'certain something' to do it. You know, it's one thing to spool down a choreo. It's a whole different level if you actually know what would be great now in a Jedi~ish fight. No one would have to write me a choreo, I could write my own and I promise you - it would be better than what we saw here. Like...so much better, oh my god. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Rosario Dawson doesn't have it. Getting even to where she is now was a lot of work I can guarantee it. The problem is, that Disney has realized, that their main audience are mainstreamers by now. They don't really care, they don't know any better. So they can save money toning down the fight quality to this instead of having great overall effects, many force effects, speed, high jumps or whatever.
Again, I'm not trying to say this fight was garbage. But you're literally saying it was perfect, nothing can be criticized and that, sorry, is as false as it can be. It was probably the best Disney fight so far but again - that doesn't mean ANYTHING at all. But we can agree to disagree, that's fine with me. :)@@perssontm1628
"Dont let em jump! Stay in its path"
IT'S A RING!
God I can never get tired of your smile.
I know Angela works in dental, but she can be a professor given her speaking abilities and well organized train of thoughts. Wow, nearly 70k subs. So fast. Well deserved.
I think I found my new favorite reaction channel 😂youre so funny. Cracks me up, keep it going!
Funny story that probably 500k people have already mentioned: There's a YT crew that does post-release "fixes" on CG work like you mentioned, and they did a fix for Luke on their channel following that finale. D+/Lucasfilm hired them based on that to help with Luke in the Book of Boba Fett episodes, and that's why he looks so much better there.
The best episode in Star Wars....period!!!! Ahsoka is my favorite Star Wars show after this las episode. The episode delivered...loved every minute of it.
You and me both, what a time to be a Star Wars fan!
I honestly thought the de-aging of Anakin looked much better here than it did in Kenobi.
But that Vader theme at the end has be seriously worried.
He said hello snips!! 😭❤️
'All this doubt you're sewing here'
**Sabine hands over the map**
Errrm..
I don’t get how people think the cgi is bad. It’s just like the Luke CGI in book of boba fett. It’s literally flawless.
Definetely not. Mando Luke they used CGI and it looked quite bad, in boba fett they used deepfake and it looked perfect. Seems they used CGI in this and you can see that it doesn't look like a human. In boba fett you could totally believe that Luke was actually that young. Here it just looked animated.
That " That looks really bad I just had to say it " with the tears lol 😂 . I gotta say your reactions are always unique hahaha.
I thought it looked great. I guess opinions vary quite a bit.
you did???????????? it looked like a whats up filter. @@chakarinyoswattana6987
I really enjoyed that episode... I thought sabine was acting in-character tbh.. and I think Ahsoka was sensing some of this possibility and hence all the questions at the start...
World between worlds was epic, cant wait to see where they take us next!
But the stand out for me was Baylon and Hati...
Lightsaber fights:
The good ones tell a story of their own. Ray Stevenson's character was using his size advantage and was using big, heavy blows and making the most of his longer reach. Ahsoka was fighting with agility and finesse. When you get that combination fighting each other, it can look a little clumsy because the big guy can power through with his strength, but he leaves himself open to counters. He has to hold back a little, while still pushing his faster and more agile opponent to keep her from getting up close. And with lightsabers, it only takes one mistake.
If it were two agile fighters, it would look much more acrobatic and good for the screen. Two big fighters and it would have looked savage, with big blows exchanged. Mix of the two and they're both slightly out of tempo with each other, but the big guy has longer reach. Plus, while Ray Stevenson has done some fight scenes in other things he's done, he's still an actor, not a martial artist. Rosario Dawson can dance, and as far as fight choreography goes, it's effectively dancing. Did you know that Michelle Yeoh isn't a martial artist, she's a dancer? Yet she can look like she's spent years doing martial arts.
It's all an uplifting moment until Anakin's theme shifts to Vader's theme as we fade to black.
My heart wasnt ready when i heard the two words Hello Snips 🥹 Reminds me so much of Matt lanter's Anakin
My wife and I both said at the same time...."that doesn't look good" with Anakin. Glad we weren't alone
That "can i teust you" made plebty sense by the end 💀
Great episode and reaction
Episode confirmed one of the darker guesses about what's been going on in the intervening years since Rebels - Clan Wren got wiped out in the Purge. No wonder Sabine is so desperate to find Ezra.
This was a awesome episode I geeked out so hard at the end! 😂 I actually cried like that just happy crying seeing him too 😭😭
He called her "Snips" 😊
When we transition from the seas to the World Between Worlds, Ahsoka appears to have the same green smokey wisps on the edges of her form. We saw the same effect on the holograms on Morgan's ship, the Eye of Sion. Which I think uses Nightsister magick. So I think when Ahsoka grabbed the map ball with her bare hands, she was burned by the same Magick. How it saved her from falling off the cliff & transported her to the WBW I'm not sure. But I think this will ultimately turn out to be a Magick induced vision while the real Ahsoka is knocked out on a rock at the bottom of the cliff. And that the Nightsister magick assisted vision is Ahsoka's subconscious finally allowing her to confront her past. Which is why Hayden is de-aged, because it's the Anakin from her past. Perhaps then she will figure out that Sabine didn't fail her but Ahsoka's own trust issues but the idea of betrayal in Sabine's mind when it wasn't in there in the 1st place. I don't think I'm wording this right, but if you watch Star Wars Explained, Alex puts my feelings to words better than I could state them.
Did you see the cliff? It was a steep edge with nothing but rocks and water below, if she didn't die by the fall and is unconscious she will drown anyways lol. Shes definetely there. Could be because she had the daughter of mortis life in her. The owl saving her and sending her there, Anakin pulled her through. Or shes just dead and can come back because of Mortis stuff. All of them makes more sense lol.
Great reaction and thoughts! Personally I really liked the decision that Sabine didn't destroy the map. It made sense to me as the Sabine in this series is far more jaded and isolated. Most of all she seemed incredibly lonely. In addition her relationship with Ashoka is incredible strained. So when Ashoka commits the classic Jedi mistake of demanding the sacrifice of one of her last emotional relationships and connection I was not surprised that Sabine didn't want to go through with it.
Besides from the beginning Ashoka framed their mission as a way to get Ezra Back, while in truth she cared far more about stopping Thrawn. So her willingness to sacrifice any chance of getting him back, probably felt like a huge betrayal to Sabine. Which made her very susceptible to being convinced by Baylan.
Ashoka was making the logical decision. How many will die at the hands of Thrawn once he's able to rebuild the Empire? All her current family could die as well (Hera, Chopper, Jaycen, Ashoka, Nuyang, Zeb). I know Ezra was very important to her but you can't sacrifice an entire galaxy for one person.
@@swifty1969 I agree with you. Ashoka would have made the moral decision(at least according to idea that the need of the many outweigh the need of the few or the one), but I personally like it when protagonists act "selfishly" or emotionally over logically. Makes for a more interesting story.
But I think Ashoka is also to some degree to blame how things went down. There is a limit on what level of selflessness you can demand from someone and she didn't recognize that Sabine reached her limit. It was basically like going into battle with a brittle sword. Which is of course the result of them not having a functional master and apprentince relationship. I really respect the show for going that route, as they showed that their relationship didn't really work and now we see the consequences of that.
*"This is where the fun begins"*
Thank you, I thought I was the only one who thought Anakin’s de-aging looked “off”.
I think we say a force block, from Shin, of an expected force punch from Sabine that didn't come. Hence Shin was surprised that Sabine really has no light side power.
Appa sneak attack! I love it when Mr. Kim get's some screen time.
Also, they DID hire the people who do that stuff at home.
I love how Sabine and Shin disarmed each other and then it became sooo akward the Shin just Batman her and left xD
The title of this one is really clever, since "Fallen Jedi" can be applied to so many of the characters in the episode. Baylan, a fallen Jedi now using the Dark Side (at least a little) and working with the forces of evil. Ahsoka, who abandoned the Jedi Order, falling in a sense, and also quite literally fell off a cliff this episode. Sabine, who you could argue falls off of the typical Jedi path by giving in to emotion and handing the map to Baylan. And lastly, to Anakin, whose fall to the dark side changed the galaxy forever.
I've always thought that Rosario Dawson's Ahsoka was decent, but missing just a little tiny something that really made her click in the role, but in that little smile/laugh after Huyang requested for her and Sabine to stick together, I saw the Ahsoka I always knew from Rebels and the Clone Wars. While she's been through a lot and that would change a person, in Rebels at least she always had just a little more charm and warmth than we've seen from live action Ahsoka so far - until that moment! More moments like that please! Dawson is a really good actress and the more we utilise that talent, the better!
Surprised you weren't a fan of the choreography for the fights this time around - I really liked all of the fights in this one! I thought the choreo was a lot better than the first Sabine vs Shin fight, and a bit better than the first Ahsoka vs Marrok fight on Corellia. Baylan has a simple efficiency of movement to him that I really like because it allows him to demonstrate strength, like the way he pushed Ahsoka's blade when they were in a blade-lock, and to demonstrate experience in how he deflects Sabine's blaster bolts with no wasted movement. It makes things intense, but in a different way to how Star Wars' duels have been intense before. It's not flashy, but it's kind of brutal. Regarding the Sabine vs Shin "Force Push" I interpreted it more as Shin just flinching in anticipation of the push rather than Sabine actually mustering enough power to push Shin's head around, but there was a hint of the Force sound effect in there, so I wouldn't be mad if I were wrong. Rockem-Sockem Huyang was great as well of course. Marrok bursting into Nightsister Magicks like one of their reanimated zombies is fascinating, I hope we learn more there!
Sabine's choice makes sense to me. If her family died in the Mandalorian purge, and with Hera and Zeb busy trying to sort the New Republic out (and with Jacen in Hera's case), Sabine probably feels totally alone, so the slightest hope of bringing back Ezra, the family member she arguably grew closest to, probably means everything to her. Lastly, mediocre-at-best CGI de-aging affects aside (I'd literally not have bothered, Hayden doesn't look *that* much older!), I couldn't be happier that we get to see Anakin, and in The World Between Worlds, no less! Although, with that musical cue at the end, I'm uncertain how pleasant the rest of their reunion may be... All in all I think I enjoyed this episode the most of the season so far, and I can't wait to see what's next.
Nobody ever notices the use of the Dark side Power; "dominate will". Beylan totally used it on Sabine, just like Palpatine did to Anakin in the chancellor's office in Episode III.
I also really liked how Ahsoka kept switching fighting stances while squaring off with Marrok. First she did her classic one Saber, backward stance, then she beat him after switching to Anakin's stance.
De-aged Anakin looks like a vampire from Twilight.
Did you miss that Anakin called her "Snips" at first?
The last scene BROKE + MELTED My 💔 🌌 💖 @ the same time 🌠
Savage Opress was a warrior augmented through Dathomiri magicks, and he also leaked green smoke when he died. I wonder if Marrok was similarly augmented by Morgan.
I appreciate that someone could be so touched by the end scene yet also objectively admit the de-aging was awful.
Tears of joy! it's like seeing an old family/friend member back from the grave....it's tear dropping moment! LOVED IT! n Can't wait to see where it goes next week....
So Ahsoka getting her hand burned going to turn out to be like Toht in Raiders of the Lost Ark where he had the head of the staff burned into his palm, they going to use Ahsoka's burn to piece the map together?
Was only her fingertips
I'm a grown-ass 56 year old and I had exactly the same reaction as you did when I heard Anakin speak! I got broke, but in the best Star Wars way possible. I agree with your comments about the de-aging, but the overall effect was still so........oh boy! I totally agree with everything else you said, about the character development, the choreography, but this series is still amazing and has the feels about it. Bring on the whales I say!!
This is more than Rebels (which is already great), this is a little exercise in style and a tribute to spaghetti westerns, Samurai films and the legendary Zatoichi. There is even a nod to Metropolis. The handling of the camera and its slow but tense pace is a visual treat. The performances live up to the simple but effective story. And Baylan, by the gods, Baylan. I simply love it.
Ahsoka has died a legit 3 times (on Mortis, on Malachor, and now here), I don't think she can die anymore since Mortis unless someone gets a hold of the Mortis gods sword since the Sister transferred her life force what ever into Ahsoka.
Technically she never died on Malachor, she was saved by Ezra
I like the de-aging it makes sense, His younger form would be more recognizable to her. By this time I'm sure she knows Vader is out there so to see the same version of Anakin as the one she parted from would bring her more peace, make her trust him more as I'm sure he'll be important to her escape. But as always thank you for the moments and review of this episode along with future ones. I always look for your reactions I refuse to watch anyone else's until I see yours. You just feel like you're watching the episode or movie with someone real, you don't hold back, you make jokes, puns, you cry which is just such a human thing to do and something that helps us all relate and feel connected to you I freakin love this channel. Never stop being you Damnit 😊
You do realise Anakin is dead right?
You have to keep in mind that Sabine's entire family was recently killed on Mandalore (probably during the purge?)
She views Ezra as one of the few people she has left that she considers family.
Can we please get a funnylilgalreacts shirt that just says "I LOVE SPACE SHIT!"
Yes I always thought Ahsoka would would be connected by Anakin and I knew they'd be tears from you great reaction anyway.
On the off chance no one else has mentioned it, Paul Hyung-Sun Lee (Carson) has been tapped to play Uncle Iroh in the upcoming live-action _Avatar: The Last Airbender._
I wonder if by the end of this season we are going to either hear Ahsoka say "I am no Jedi" again or after meeting with Anakin if he will teach a lesson about his fall to the dark side and she will return to the Jedi way to help build the Jedi order with Luke.
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Hey, Angela! Easily one of the high points of the DPlus era ranking with the heist episode of "Andor" and eclipsed only by the Season 2 finale of "The Mandalorian"!
Huyang throws down!
Ahsoka said the thing! "HEIR TO THE EMPIRE"! Shout-out to Timothy Zahn!
Fan theories shredded as cleanly as a laser swipe from Ahsoka shredded Marrok! Either he was a gaseous alien in a pressurized suit like Johann Krauss from "Hellboy" and the Inquisitor from "Tales of the Jedi" or he was a dead Inquisitor reanimated by Elsbeth's Nightsister magick! They should have used a more phosphorescent green vapor to eliminate debate.
I loved the Sabine Force fake-out that took Shin by surprise! "You have no power." "Yeah? I'm still a Mandalorian, bi%ch!"
PAUL SUN-HYUNG LEE crosses over from "Mandalorian" as he reprises CARSON TEVA!
Baylan knew Anakin but loathes his transformation into Vader. He genuinely respects Ahsoka. He is not a Thrawn fanboy. He feels morally obligated to fulfill a purpose that
serves the greater good. His motivations remain as compelling as they are mysterious. The ladies are saying he's putting out hot daddy vibes but, whatever it is, RAY STEVENSON was magnificent!
Loved Ahsoka's samurai half-squat stance with leveled sword.
Baylan is a beast like an armored medieval knight with a broadsword! Heavy, arm-quaking blows!
The map sphere scorches Ahsoka's hand! Did it leave an imprint in the flesh?
Sabine lost Ursa and Tristan in the NIGHT OF A THOUSAND TEARS! Ahsoka prevented her from being at her family's side when Mandalore fell!
Treachery! Sabine can't bring herself to abandon Ezra. This is why Jedi have no attachments! Poor kid.
The 'Ghost' and the X-wing escort thought they could block the hyperspace ring from transiting but they had no idea the MEGASTRUCTURE had the power to gouge a hole in space-time right through them completely avoiding high-velocity collision! They got swept up like leaves in the backwash eddy!
THE WORLD BETWEEN WORLDS! The NEXUS of all reality! Did Ahsoka die a third time or did the essence of the Daughter within her enable her to access this plane inadvertently as she fell?
De-aged HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN! Snips and Skyguy reunite but why does Vader's theme play?
JACEN is a chip off the old block and feels a tremor in the Force! He gets the honor of the franchise's catchphrase: "I've got a bad feeling about this." Lol.
Thank you, Dave Filoni!
If Baylan would walk to me in the way he did when he said "that was unwise" I would voluntarily jump of that cliff
To each their own and your mileage may vary, of course, but I thought this ep was exactly Sabine, through and through. She’s always been good and always cared about the larger universe, and she’s always tried to do the right thing. But she’s also passionate, impetuous, stubborn, and so loyal that it can often drift past the point of good sense. Add on to that what Baylan was saying, about how apparently Ahsoka wouldn’t trust Sabine and let her go to help her family fight for Mandalore when the empire glassed it (savage, Snips…) and the rift and bad feelings between she and Ahsoka make sense, as does Sabine deciding this time she’s not going to miss a chance to go save her family (here, Ezra) no matter what Ahsoka thinks. It’s not a good decision, but our characters can never grow and learn (much less progress the plot the way Dave needed her to there) without making bad decisions sometimes.
Also - there is simply no way Sabine doesn’t have a plan in mind. She’s not accepting Baylan’s words at face value, I don’t think, she’s using him as a way to get to Ezra, with some kind of plan involving joining up with Ezra when she finds him and stopping Thrawn and Baylan and Shin and Morgan then. Of course it won’t quite go that way, but I’m pretty sure that’s where her head is at.
Well Ahsoka said, she needs Sabine to be herself not a Jedi. So maybe she knew that Sabine was going to do what she did and get on that ship heading to Thrawn and Ezra.
tbh i think Sabine isn't the same person we knew back in rebels and handing over the map has a lot to do with what happened between rebels and now that we haven't seen (yet, hopefully). baylan closed his eyes and was reading her in that moment, her worst fears. the last time she listened to ahsoka, her whole bio family died in the purge of mandalore and he's using her desperation not to lose ezra forever. she can't get her mom and dad and brother back. but this is her chance to get ezra. he tried to do that with ahsoka, too, put her off balance by bringing up abandoning anakin, but sabine doesn't have the emotional control ahsoka does. you can probably make an argument that they should have done a full reveal on what happened to her so we understand why now she can't risk losing this chance to get him back, but i like what they are doing. the little hints. im hoping we get some flashback peeks about it in the WBW.
i was having fun with all the marrok theorizing but i love what they did. omg and literal lol.
i also hope that they handle it right to explain the WBW to casuals who haven't watched the animated shows. i want that. emotional closure w anakin and ahsoka. flashbacks. and the thrawn drop. that's what i want from 5.
Morrok was 100 percent an old inquisitor brought back to life by nightsister magic.
I just wanna say that the transition from watching the star map site and panning out over the sea and then to Ahsoka waking up in the world between worlds is the sickest shit. Whatever cinematographer came up with that transition deserves several pats on the back.
I like the way all of Ahsoka’s ready positions in this episode were pure classic samurai stances.