Icy Dock Ramble For the Ultimate Home Server

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  • How much do you want to invest in your Home Server? Well, maybe you don't have to spend as much as you think! Don't be afraid to color outside the lines! Join Wendell in this ramble as he breaks down his thoughts on reusing e-waste and shifting the use cases of motherboards!
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  • @zacharytaylor8523
    @zacharytaylor8523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Really bugs me that no case manufacturer is seemingly allowed to make cases with 10+ 5.25 bays anymore (being figurative of course), there are some cases available, but they only exist as they just haven't sold out yet.
    It's part of the reason Icy dock and hotswap bays in general can be so spendy, they are getting to be niche items. I see a death spiral of the 5.25 bay and it's related accessories.

    • @javiej
      @javiej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think they will disappear, 5.25" is just a standard form factor, being used for many different things over the time. What becomes obsolete is what you put in there each year, not the form factor because it perfectly matches the spare space in PC cases. Now Icy Dok just launched a 8 x NVMe 5'25" enclosure that has a lot of potential and even a 12 SSD unit, not to mention a 2 x nvme in the 5.25" dvd slot...
      But there are many other potential uses. To mention the weirdest ones I have seen a 5.25" drawer (with keykock), a 5.25" subwoofer, and even a 5.25" coffe holder that keep it warm (gets hot hair by redirecting internal fan exhaust outwards ...). Another nice trick is to add an extra power supply in there when your original one is not enough. And of course you can put traditional mechanical hard disks (boring, but nothing else will give you a better cost per terabyte, by far ).
      Other uses are extra fans, car readers, professional audio gear with balanced connectors, video patch panels, a ush hub, a battery charger, RGB lighting, retractable cables, AC power plugs for monitors or other devices, KVMs, a small UPS for safe auto-power off on blackouts, small network switches, a raspberri pi, ... the 5.25" bay really helps a PC to be a PC, the only modern machine designed to be upgraded as you want, when you want, how you want. Your way.
      Even when left empty the PC soul still lives in there, and I hope it will never die.

    • @DoozyBytes
      @DoozyBytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you’re into rackmount, rose will has a 3u case that technically has 12 5.25 slots. It’s populated by its own HD de tray holder, but you can easily swap that out for anything else.

    • @nismo4x4n
      @nismo4x4n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoozyBytes that's exactly what I did and it works great. $150 case plus another $150 of adaptors / fans(the stock fans are junk) and you have a super nice 3U rack case.

    • @Lishtenbird
      @Lishtenbird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The two 5.25" slots (albeit poorly supported weight-wise) have been the major selling point of Define 7 XL for me.
      Yeap, some people with modern systems still need this stuff.

    • @javiej
      @javiej 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nismo4x4n I agree about the fans, but also the case design is important for rack mounting. PC stock cooling can be cheap while still powerful because they use the fact that they can intake air from any direction and blow it out in any other direction, turbulence does not matter too much and they typically have the room for themselves. Meanwhile rack mount requires front intake only and back exhaust only (otherwise it will breath hot air coming from equipment at the bottom and blow it even hotter to the equipment on top, also messing around with air convection.

  • @jstnjx
    @jstnjx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I've been using my old gaming rig with an i7 4790k for the past 4 years as a home server and just recently treated myself to a significantly more powerful Epyc Rome server

    • @bond4555
      @bond4555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I still game on my 4770k 😂

    • @DrathVader
      @DrathVader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just out of curiosity, what are you using all this compute for? My home server is running on an i3-4130, I've been thinking of upgrading to some sort of quad-core Xeon but I can't justify it when my avg load on i3 hovers around 0.2-0.3

    • @jstnjx
      @jstnjx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DrathVader Home automation, plex server, backup for work, gaming vm‘s media encoding, a web server and a couple docker containers at the end of the day all I wanted was enough headroom to expand :D

    • @nismo4x4n
      @nismo4x4n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jstnjx yeah the price on the 32cores just fell off a cliff. I bought a dual 32core epyc + 256gb ram and a mobo for under $2000. People always ask why, but then you consider it replaced at least 1/2 a dozen devices and puts it into a nice small unit its totally worth it.

    • @axessx
      @axessx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Unraid is a i7-3820...and game on the Virtual PC setup in Unraid...ahahahahahaha

  • @rebsdioramas
    @rebsdioramas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    About time you got the X470D4U Wendell! It's a good board for the price, was a bit quirky on release and 5000 series can be questionable at times depending on what your doing but mines been solid since May 2019, probably had about 20 - 30 restarts in that time. It's soon to be upgraded to a 5950X and 128GB RAM for a hosting game servers more betterer than it's current set up.
    One really important thing to note about this board. The CPU socket isn't up to AMD spec, it's to close to the RAM so you'll need to be damn careful when picking a cooler especially if you max out the RAM slots. The newer boards fix this but, just a heads up to everyone. Noctua have a supported cooler list for this board.

  • @h4X0r99221
    @h4X0r99221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ah yes, the Antec Nine Hundred, legendary! One of the best cases, way ahead of it's time. Looks great (especially compared to "gamer" cases of it's time), slick black, mesh front, insane cooling options, useful case top tray including IO and amazing front configuration options.
    I built my first PC in this case with an Asus P5Q and a Core 2 Quad Q9400, 8GB RAM with the legendary 212 Evo and of course neon tube lighting. xD
    It was still going strong into 2020, even the neon Tubes! I then made the BIOS mod to run an X5460 Xeon and am it's still being used in my workshop.
    I never thought of it as a good option for a server build, but it really does tick all the right boxed, with those adapter options! Thanks Wendell

    • @applicablerobot
      @applicablerobot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is this comment 10 days old?

    • @joshluvhalo
      @joshluvhalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@applicablerobot They're probably a patron on Patreon.

    • @applicablerobot
      @applicablerobot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshluvhalo oh thanks. Somehow I didn't know l1t has a patreon

  • @davidricebowled
    @davidricebowled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I wonder if anyone else would be interested in seeing Wendell, or Ryan, programming, or scripting, the auto-ingest parts of the a NAS build? Ideally framed as a tutorial series?
    It's those little quality-of-life bits that I think would help people get more info self-building home storage solutions, because nobody wants to go through their twenty year optical collection and do all the ingests, manually clicking buttons every single time.

    • @abavariannormiepleb9470
      @abavariannormiepleb9470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There might be legal issues when showing what “to do” with media that has some sort of copy protection like DVDs and Blu-rays.

    • @tolpacourt
      @tolpacourt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don't, need, all, those, commas.

    • @marcin_karwinski
      @marcin_karwinski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AFAIK there are MakeMKV etc. containers that allow passing in DVD/BluRay drive with some autosensing logic in the apps themselves to dump the contents to mkv (or using disc authoring containers to rip to iso), which then needs to be moved to a location that acts as an ingest directory for handbrake container to transcode to target profile... A few years back I had found a few containers that worked with USB optical drives and used them prior to my last server crash, each container having its USB device observed for disc load to automatically trigger iso dump to a workdir, which then got ingested by a handbrake container (workdir was a watched ingress dir for handbrake container with predefined transcode profile), with output then moved using server's incron settings to a correct media server's media location... and the work files were configured to be removed on process successs on each container (so the "ripping" one extracted the disc and the handbrake one removed source). That's how I ingested my BoxSets collection into my NAS... now I'm only adding new items once new buys arrive, so I'm using just handbrake container to select exposed drive as source omitting the ripping part... and then tweaking finer media container/format details such as changing stream selection or adjusting metadata using either scripted mkvmerge or ffmpeg run initiated by incron...

  • @TheBibliofilus
    @TheBibliofilus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh my, I had that Antec Nine Hundred chassis when the Intel Q6600 launched in the olden times!
    Also, Wendell rambling is the best of times!

  • @Khift
    @Khift ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started this playlist thinking that I was interested in setting up a home server / NAS. Halfway through it, I looked at my Antec 900 breeding dust bunnies in the closet and said, huh, I wonder if that would work, and started looking up 5.25" bay slot adapters and planning on tossing a dirt cheap AM4 board into it.
    Absolutely killed me to see literally the same case sitting on the desk here at the end. Definitely think I'm going to go with that case, if only because it has a lot of room to grow -- probably just start with one mechanical drive bay filled with a couple drives, but with 9x 5.25" bays it could grow as ridiculous as I would let it.

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb9470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BTW how is Alder Lake behaving with “questionable” PCIe adapters when using PCIe Gen4? Is it less fragile than Zen 2/3 platforms since Intel is already on Gen5 here? Similar to PCIe Gen3 being pretty robust now on AMD’s side…
    Does PCIe Advanced Error Reporting work properly on Alder Lake systems?
    (Waiting for the release of (more) socket 1700 motherboards with ECC support before I might try one out for the very first time)

  • @Banner1986
    @Banner1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what pisses me off so much about current cases - the limited 5.25" bays.

  • @Rkiver
    @Rkiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have that Asrock Rack mobo running my truenas with a nice HBA card with an LSI chipset, and an nvidia T600 for encoding, with a Ryzen 2600 and 64 gigs of ram.
    Runs flawlessly.

    • @Cody4k
      @Cody4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got two of this board as well, running a 5900x and 3900x. Both with 64GB ECC ram, 2x32GB sticks. Running Fedora server.

    • @pherd-0884
      @pherd-0884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I have the same board, my first gen ryzen 1800x, LSI HBA, and 64 gigs of dirt slow RAM running Proxmox. I'm using the icydock 6x for VM drives, and the HBA will future state feeed 8 3.5" drives for my NAS VM. Antec P100S holds everything pretty well.

  • @stephenreaves3205
    @stephenreaves3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang, I was actually about to do this. Now everything's gonna be bought out

  • @computersales
    @computersales ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Antec 900 is still a fantastic case IMO. I know it probably wouldn't sell well but I wish antec would make an updated version that kept its original charm but also implemented certain modern designs features like cable management.

  • @transatlant1c
    @transatlant1c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Wendel, would recommend you check out the silverstone tj08e, looks like it would be pretty much perfect for what you want (4-5 3.5” without bay adaptors, depending on how you configure it and 2x 5.25” to play around with).

  • @SlightlySaici
    @SlightlySaici 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A word of caution on the ASRock rack X470 motherboard with onboard 10G Ethernet.
    It really was built for server airflow. I am running a parsec gaming VM as well as proxmox/TrueNAS on this and ran into system instability due to insufficient cooling of the 10G chip. Pointed a fan at it, fixed.

    • @SlightlySaici
      @SlightlySaici 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also ran into instability using two USB ports with external HDDs (for backup)

  • @jensodotnet
    @jensodotnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Started out with this case, a Q6600 and GTX275 a "while" back... Many drops of blood have been spilled in this case over the years. It's was a true flashback to see it in a YT video in 2022, admittedly it's still standing ... if not a bit skewed on the floor beside me still 😂

    • @transatlant1c
      @transatlant1c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Built many many customer systems in the 900 back in the day. Great case.

  • @rudysal1429
    @rudysal1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang I've been looking to upgrade my old xeon server with that x470d4u motherboard but your coverage might cause it to go up in price ahhh lol. Love your hard work and content and hoping to learn a good amount.

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right now I am considering an external SAS enclosure as a storage expansion possibility, though DIY one of those will be trickier, specially finding a proper enclosure solution...

  • @jodajackson4489
    @jodajackson4489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An Antec 900 case e-waste,….?!? Blasphemy!!!

  • @DuckyDoGaming
    @DuckyDoGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spotifly.
    The real takeaway from this video

  • @Vegablade
    @Vegablade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I run my Home Server and Backup Server on some Icy Dock and Rosewill hotswap cages. Both using the Zalman MS800 which has 10 5.25 bays. Works perfectly.

  • @ShadVonHass
    @ShadVonHass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got several old business Optiplex's with i5-6500's running Proxmox and a couple VMs, been great for starting things so far

  • @mdrumt
    @mdrumt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Antec 900 ftw

  • @x108a1
    @x108a1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Data hoarder? Closes closet full of hard drves

  • @BillLambert
    @BillLambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big love for Icy Dock, their gadgets are often exactly what I need for odd jobs

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got a couple of Icy Dock 5.25" single bay adapters 5 years ago, each holds both a 3.5" and a 2.5" SATA drive, individual power and eject buttons...; great stuff!

  • @grahamleiper1538
    @grahamleiper1538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got some Icy Dock bays a decade or so ago. (Windows Home Server) and been transplanted a few times now (currently in rack mount cases - which still do 5 1/4" bays).
    The three drive and four drive versions had slots a decade ago, but bending tabs is fairly easy.

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And you're right, ready made NAS solutions are a robbery for home or small/medium business. Absolutely stupid not to go the DIY route if you know what you are doing.

    • @rudysal1429
      @rudysal1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most businesses aren't run by pc enthusiasts. If you run a business and don't have time to learn or work on it, you are paying for the service.

  • @t3itguy
    @t3itguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny you mention the Antec Nine Hundred. My PC I built in 2011 (Core i5-760, Asus P7P55D-E PRO, 8gb ddr3 1600) is in an Antec Nine Hundred Two. I did the exact thing you mentioned in this video and I put in 3 Icy Dock 4x3.5" hot swap bays and upgraded my NAS to it. I've got 12 3TB HDD's in RAID 6 and I'm super happy. The only thing was I regretted not getting the Antec Twelve Hundred full tower so that I could have fit 4 of these bays in it, but back in 2010, I had no idea I'd still have that case 10 years later haha.

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My potato class PC converted to a NAS is an AMD FX8320 and I got that installed on a 4U Industrial Rackmount enclosure.
    The only thing I'm regretting there is the maximum number of hard disks I can put on it, basically 10 internal 3.5" plus 2x5"1/4 and 1x3"1/2 drive bays (which I have installed a 4x 2"1/2 SATA Disk Bay + and a 1x3"1/2 + 1x2"1/2 bays adapters for those 5"1/4 bays.
    At the time I have 2 SAS controllers on it, one with 4 Drives support and the other with 8 Drives support which combined with the onboard 8x SATA is leaving me wanting more drive bays, booohoooo
    On my 3"/2 bay I put a multi card reader with CF card support, you know cause having the OS on a CF card can be handy.

  • @Spazzmoticus
    @Spazzmoticus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted to add some extra Icy Dock 5.25 adapters similar to what you are using, so I bought a multi bay DVD duplicator case without the drives on ebay and then connected it to my system using an external 6g sas adapter card. Works like a champ.

  • @halistinejenkins5289
    @halistinejenkins5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those old Antec cases were legit.👍

  • @Crackalacking_Z
    @Crackalacking_Z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a couple of the M.2 SSD to 2.5" SATA enclosures, they are really awesome and pretty inexpensive. Let's face it, most motherboards and notebooks got too few M.2 slots, but these enclosures make it pretty easy to clone you old SSD to a bigger one and then just swap the sticks.

  • @GeoffSeeley
    @GeoffSeeley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having been down the potato home server road for many years and dealt with all the limitations (i.e. limited PCIe lanes/SATA ports) in consumer class hardware, I've gone the other route into used enterprise server class gear like Supermicro.

  • @ShadowFandub
    @ShadowFandub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait...
    that case have 9 5.25 slots
    icy 24 slots is 3 5.25 slots, x3 is 72
    72 2.5 sata lots for 15.3tb sata ssd
    1101.6 Sata SSD...or 1.101 PB
    DAMN

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw ปีที่แล้ว

    ICY DOCK charges ~10x - 20x what they would charge if others made the part & thus had to be competitive.

  • @Pr34ch
    @Pr34ch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how about old chieftec cases they were awesome back in the day, or the cooler master stacker cases

    • @znoozi
      @znoozi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i found a stacker 830 for 40 bux recently, it's amazing and best part is full alu so it's light as a feather.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that EXACY same motherboard in an apevia XQPACK2 case, an ICYDOCK 16x2.5inch hot swap SSDs, and a SATA3/SAS3 JBOD/ITmode RAID card, and a pair of Optane drives for cache

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI, the Athlon 3050E is still Zen1 based, though it is apparently supported by windows11

  • @tomstech4390
    @tomstech4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have started this recently but with a sharkoon T9 (gave my antec 900 to a friend to do it for himself). Preface: I know nothing about servers or networking, First time.
    Xeon e5-2698 v3 16 core . MSI X99a sli Plus . 8x8GB corsair LPX . Intel X550-T2 10Gbit NIC . GT710 gpu . 3x icydock (4 drives per 3 bays) adaptors. Also have a spare Optane 16GB I might use for a cache of some sort. Still need to get..
    ~16 port raid card/HBA=£400
    12x 4TB HDD's... oh they're like another £1000-£1400 alone
    Probably going truenas.
    While saving for this my 2TB mx500 SSD died taking 12 years of photos and spreadsheets with it. Now relying on a single barracuda compute 4TB (SMR) which had a backup from 6 months ago.... yeah Fun.

  • @RebootTechnologies
    @RebootTechnologies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got my self a upgraded hp microserver gen 8 with truenas on it. Downgraded from a full size 10core xeon on c602 motherboard. Prefer the small size over the full horse power

  • @CarterBlackburn
    @CarterBlackburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao I am dying. "Or only subscribe for a very short period of time... Uhhh... Maybe do some transcoding..."

  • @brianhansen9578
    @brianhansen9578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wendell, just described my home server ... from MB to IcyDocks to dual NIC add-in ... hhehe

  • @Olize666
    @Olize666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi!
    I want to build an NAS for me.
    But I'm not sure what Software to use.
    I want 4 things from it.
    1.) 3 HDDs for parity
    2.) The RAID must be able to be expanded with more Disks.
    3.) The Data on the RAID must be crypted in AES
    4.) An m.2 R/W cache.

  • @be-kind00
    @be-kind00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why spend all that money on ICYDOCK and end up only with 6gbps SATA speeds? What am I missing? I am building a server now and will use a PCIe card to mount 4 M.2 NVME SSD's on the card and get full speed for RAID. Of course I don't get hot swap but how often do we really need to hot swap RAID SSD's?

  • @EnricoAnsaloni
    @EnricoAnsaloni ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually, when I upgrade my main system (a gaming PC/development workstation), I keep the old CPU/mobo/RAM and I put it on my server case. Used to have an old Silverstone case with an IcyDock with 4 hotswap 3.5" bays that used to fit in 3 5.25" bays on the case. The Silverstone was so old though that the airflow was bad and the HDDs were running hot, so I ditched the IcyDock and the old case for a new Fractal Design Meshify 2 which can be configured internally with up to 9 x 3.5" HDDs and has excellent airflow... Yes I lost the hotswap capability but I gained a lot in HDD and CPU operating temperatures

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love a video on hotswappabilty. What it depends on - mobo-wise, hba-wise, enclosure-wise, and form factor/interface-wise, os/software-wise. For example, the 2.5 doorless icydock thingy presupposes hotswap, but I've heard of people burning out their ports eventually by hotswapping sata drives.

  • @willcurry6964
    @willcurry6964 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love a DESKTOP home server/workstation. I dont understand why more of the enterprise HD's have not migrated to workstations. Can you build me one? I would like a very small chassis, with a current MB and Min 2 - M.2 Nmve slots on board and U.3 drives (4 max). Likely need a SAS-3 12Gbps Controller card . Video can be intergrated onboard. Win 11 Pro.

  • @CASPYBXL
    @CASPYBXL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Wendel what do you think about a Dell Z400 I can get for 100$ +- with 2 x GB ECC Ram and 4 x 1 TB (SATA 7.2K rpm) and as CPU is a XEON W3520 and there is even a Nvidia Quadro 2000 in it. (I would go for TrueNas Core)

  • @joshuamaserow
    @joshuamaserow ปีที่แล้ว

    My problem with these docking / mounting solutions like this IcyDock are they are ridiculously expensive... the fact that it costs more than a motherboard and CPU combined (more than $800) for some low tech bits of sheet metal and a bunch of $0.50 connectors and some plastic... doesn't make any sense.
    Would be amazing for people to start 3D printing such enclosures such that you can just insert some cheap SATA data and power cables into the 3D printed parts... and bobs your uncle.
    I can understand why CPUs are expensive... super high tech, hardly any companies can make them. But some enclosures.... come on. First principles.

  • @MaxPrehl
    @MaxPrehl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wendell didn't even shout out the 3.5" drive bay he has. It's a supermicro thing and it's like $250! Gah!
    Edit: Supermicro CSE-M35T mobile rack (QB for SAS, 1B for SATA)

  • @gjkrisa
    @gjkrisa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been wanting icy dock ever since the media computer days but then the nas systems starting gaining traction and still haven’t gotten eaither but finally got a 3060 laptop when my last pc is ddr 2 with gtx 560 core 2 duo

  • @tubastud06
    @tubastud06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    About 12 years ago I was building computers for people and started to use those cube Lian-Li PC-V3xx series cases to be "premium" blah blah. I got one of the very first ones I sent out into the wild back last month (After being continuously in use for 12 years, mind you) because the power supply finally failed. I had forgotten how sweet and almost modular those cases were so I asked the guy if I could just buy the computer from him.
    Now I have my new server chassis. Still debating to go with that Asrock Rack X470 motherboard or if I want to do a low power Alder Lake. But I'll be tossing in one or two of those 5.25" Icy Dock things for four, or maybe eight SSD's.

  • @Kapisketo
    @Kapisketo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying that the asrock rack motherboard is 200USD, and here I'm searching for months a asrock rack motherboard and both x470 and x570 models are 400EUR in ebay

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SATA wise, when I was going reaaaaallly cheapo wise with a BananaPI based NAS, which only has one SATA port, I used a SATA port multiplier turning one SATA port into 5. This, performance aside, worked wonders, just don't expect to have the full bandwidth when using all drives in parallel. But as this is/was a single user system and not really intended for more than one user at a time that wasn't an issue. My new one actually is meant to enable to install Windows/Linux over BootP/PXE network installs so here I do need the additional bandwidth. At this time my network is limited to 1Gbps and I do have a fully managed switch, so in order to minimize performance issues what I did was bonding/teaming 3 gigabit NICS on the NAS enabling 3 client connections to it at full gigabit performance.

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For hard drives a SATA splitter is probably not much of a bottleneck. The drives spend more time seeking than transferring data anyway. Two IDE drives on one cable was not a problem and SATA is a bit faster.

  • @jorelplay8738
    @jorelplay8738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a case with only two 5,25" bays. Is it possible to stuff three 3,5" HDDs in there? I couldn't find an adapter for that

  • @itmkoeln
    @itmkoeln 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember on the X470D4U I ran into problems with many coolers and the 4th ram slot... ended up with a 240 clc in my box... which barely fit...

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're going to connect all those drives with SATA cables you're going to have a bloody mess - a cabling nightmare - going on inside that case. Unless those drive cages support SAS connectivity that thing will not be fun at all. I have a 4-port 2.5 drive cage that slides into a 5.25" slot in my server case and the SATA connections with power going to that thing is a mess. Unfortunately, I don't see a whole lot of those drive cages supporting SAS for some reason. Back in the day, all server drive cages were connected via SCSI. It was an ugly ribbon cable but it was just one cable (with however many power connectors too but...). Connecting 5 cables (4-data and one power) to the back of these SATA cages is too much. The scary thing is that they make 8-port 2.5" SATA drive cages with 8-data and 2 power connectors in the back. I can't even imagine the mess that would be.

  • @Bob_Smith19
    @Bob_Smith19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still need 5.25 bays. Have a large physical media, CD / DVD / BluRay, collection. W/ a large portion of that being live concerts in FLAC I still need optical drives as I’m never getting rid of the original media.

  • @TechManTY.
    @TechManTY. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had that x470 server board with ipmi for a year. I thought it was bad at first, the reset button on the backplate was stuck and the integrated fw won't init if so. being that controls all the system fans, this can make for a bad time. i had to make a recovery usb to reflash the integrted fw to fix it. long live dos!

  • @The_Mup
    @The_Mup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was actually looking for a case like the antec recently for my NAS build.
    Couldn't find a single case for a reasonable price. All I found was a guy trying to sell a used Antec 1200 for €250. No way I'd buy a decade+ old case for that much.

  • @tron.d98200
    @tron.d98200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm absolutely a data hoarder, using my previous gaming PC as a server and it's not got any redundancy, or expansion left. (Not cool, not quiet, and. not pretty anymore)
    Been meaning to get truenas going so everything doesn't disappear if my one of the drives decides it's been on long enough...
    I was waiting for an explanation of that black magic at the end for more SATA connections lol
    In the end a redundant file server for Documents and irreplaceable media should be my priority instead of just loading up 70TB+ into a redundant truenas configuration.
    Keep up the rambling!

  • @nemesis851_
    @nemesis851_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm LAUGHING, " Building a Compaq system " - What's old, is new again :P

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Icy Dock, Startech, and Silverstone are all companies that make just about the perfect product for your use case. Amazing companies.

  • @voodoovinny7125
    @voodoovinny7125 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Antec 900 is like all of those older cases that have many 5.25" bays that seem to be lacking from the pc cases these days along with the missing 3.5" drive bays. There should be at least 4x 3.5" bays. And that motherboard is >$300.

  • @Dragonheng
    @Dragonheng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the future of my R9 3950x.
    It was definitely a good investment and replacement for the I7 970 CPU.

  • @GameOverAus
    @GameOverAus ปีที่แล้ว

    I just use an old system with a Ryen 5600 and 32GB of Mem + 5x10TB Nas grade drives in it. Softraid for the software

  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I pay for my electricity...bank of mum and dad vanished a long time ago. Any data storage has to sip power nowadays. Running a full server...nope. NAS box is the most I'll run. I've even down clocked my desktops to get the peak and idle wattage down for day to day use.

  • @nemesis851_
    @nemesis851_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm LAUGHING seeing the floppy drive size again. Just when we resolved to retire it out of 'modern' cases

  • @darsparx
    @darsparx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never understand how you and other tech you tubers find this stuff. I'm still looking to find good cases and enclosures like this and just searching Amazon and Newegg is a pain. Especially when I mean for it to find this and not the junk it typically gives me....

  • @koritec4151
    @koritec4151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you get ECC support without a Ryzen Pro? Honest question, please dont bash.....

  • @brianmccullough4578
    @brianmccullough4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a super old cooler master case, someone gave it to me.plenty of 5 1/4" bays... I have to build something in it.......icy dock, shut up and take my money, indeed!

  • @Doobie3010
    @Doobie3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That antec is like so many multi-cd/DVD muli-copy cases that where chruned out back-in-the-day.Wish modern cases still had tons of drive bays.

  • @manueljoaolima8501
    @manueljoaolima8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With that board, would you be able to pass the Sata porta to different VM ? Can anyone point me in the direction of a hot plug 2.5/3.5 dock , maybe this icydock ? I can’t find the way to find this information …

  • @computerenthusiast402
    @computerenthusiast402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ultimate Budget home server in a PC tower case with HOT Swappable drives.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With all due respect, i don't see any value in a multi-dvd-drive transcode rig. I used to have a rather sizable dvd collection, but it's generally much easier to find and download a rip of a movie than transcode it from a dvd/bd nowadays. And I'd you own the media, it's actually not even piracy, you already own the thing, and are just skipping the transcoding stage. Also, unless you're into this kind of bdsm for the fun, most people will do a worse job finding the perfect transcoding settings for a rip than those who are the source of most good torrents.
    The only reason to do a DVD on your own if it has some unique or treats content that is not easy to find, for which a single drive is generally sufficient

  • @MikeHawk1969
    @MikeHawk1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yea run a nice i7 3770 4 core / 8 thread CPU with 8 gig DDR3 old HP desktop with lots of drive space

  • @jackelofnar
    @jackelofnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use that mb with the following case SilverStone CS381B

  • @blevenzon
    @blevenzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m doing this type of build as we speak and have a small dilemma, get a consumer grade am4 mobo and just PiKVM for IPMI.

  • @anthonyslaughter1728
    @anthonyslaughter1728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old Antec 900... Nothing but airflow in its original configuration.😁

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ITX Server Build? Not seeing that being a proper NAS, maybe an overkill router with storage features but not a real NAS.

  • @stevenlevernier7357
    @stevenlevernier7357 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just ordered a single 2.5” bay from icy dock. I’m excited to play with it. I’m as excited as you are!

  • @jannikmeissner
    @jannikmeissner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I still think rack mount is King over any ATX case… I mean, I already have a rack, right?

  • @alirobe
    @alirobe ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. A 5900X in green mode (BIOS setting) is a 5900, If anyone is tossing up between the two…

  • @tank1demon
    @tank1demon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those motherboards and almost everything like them from asrock rack have been out of stock everywhere for ages - when do you think there will be more available for purchase in the usual places? IE Newegg

  • @MirceaPrunaru
    @MirceaPrunaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Icy Dock is to expensive for my needs, they build them as cheep as they can and put the highest price on them. I rather buy some old server cases and cut those down for the price of one of those 4 bay racks

  • @VEN0M415
    @VEN0M415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I now have a new name for my spotify desktop shortcut XD

  • @barbstpat6126
    @barbstpat6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really, really would like to see the video and-or forum post on the media ingestion and media server. This is probably the project on my list that has the most direct and tangible benefit (so many things on the to-make list...)

  • @michaelrichardson8467
    @michaelrichardson8467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need help with auto ripping in truenas. I've googled my heart away for months without any luck. Anyone have a solution?

  • @badharrow
    @badharrow ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or are icy docks so hard to find. I want the 8 x 2.5 ssd drives in 5.25 and they're like 600 Australian dollars.

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AM4 mobo overkill? *Looks at X99 mobo in the NAS in confusion*

  • @alystair
    @alystair 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    to the video editor: heads up, background music is subtle, but the bass can be heard as a sort of 'heartbeat' and it's kind of off-putting on IEMs.

  • @bikerchrisukk
    @bikerchrisukk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! I've got 3 of those cases, Antec 900 may be it's called. Nice video Wendell 👍

  • @Sargentwhitey
    @Sargentwhitey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those cases are incredible dust vacuums.. but the storage possibilities are insane

  • @50shadesofbeige88
    @50shadesofbeige88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not had much luck with the icy 2.5" docks. The mechanism to eject the drive breaks extremely easily. My "server" is an old optiplex with an 8400T. No speed demon, but it gets the job done!

    • @nutter-world
      @nutter-world 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a few issues with the molex myself

  • @creed5248
    @creed5248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RGB killed the 5 1/4 slots . I tried going without a dvd drive but it didn't work as most add on software still come in disk form .

  • @jtliv007
    @jtliv007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the stuff I've been trying to find too! Why no build your own NAS cases?

  • @bridgetrobertson7134
    @bridgetrobertson7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Icy Dock makes all this cool junk so why don't they just sell cases to put them in? I could use a lot of their stuff but no landfill near by to go look for 5.25 cases in.

  • @K1LLA_KING_KONG
    @K1LLA_KING_KONG ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the version of the X470 mobo with the 10GB NIC?

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah those asrock AM4 server boards are very nice, they are murderously expensive on ebay tho. I can get like 6 normal matx boards for the same processor at the same price of that

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MSI were doing an X470 board with 3 full length slots and 3 1x slots for £85. I built my server on that. Still not enough full length slots though. I pruned the video card to fit in a 1X slot.

  • @tthbeige3332
    @tthbeige3332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5.25" bays are super versatile, wish they made a comeback.