WHY LIU HAIKUAN IS THE BEST! | ZhuLiuHai Moments Part 2 | 刘海宽 + 朱赞锦 | + The Untamed 陈情令 Cast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2020
- Here's Liu Hai Kuan and Zhu ZanJin again showing the world how married they are~
LNSJ - means Liu Nian Shi Jin 流年似锦, the Chinese ship name of ZhuLiuHai. Just like BJYX / Bo Jun Yi Xiao for Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan pairing (YiZhan)
What else can I say? They're real~
Ahhh, Lan XiChen and Jin GuangYao's actors, who would've thought....
Watch more english sub videos of ZhuZanJin and Liu HaiKuan on sleepy_npanda's TH-cam: / @sleepy_npanda678
Some tasty details!:
02:23 (for those who don't know yet) It's the same flight where Zhu ZanJin and Liu HaiKuan goes away from the other The Untamed cast when they boarded the plane, because they went to business class together (just the two of them, haha). These are said by their VIP fans (those who take pics, authorized by the actors to follow them on these trips and are close fans with them), who shared the same flight with all of them.
09:40 That jacket is confirmed by ZZJ's style team and yes, it's same jacket with Liu HaiKuan's.
04:27 sources said this ChicBanana photoshoot was supposed to be just Liu HaiKuan and Zhu ZanJin, like the other CQL pairs (Wang Yibo & Xiao Zhan, JiYang & HaoXuan for Bazaar) but management decided to make them a trio so.... you know..... because if it's only gonna be ZZJ and LHK on the set, that'll look like a wedding photoshoot.
10:30 ZZJ posted on Weibo, “No matter what happens in the future, I thank you.”
LHK reposts ZZJ’s post and quoted it with “No matter what we face in the future, I believe in you” [they are roleplaying XIYAO! But also, it’s practically a message they tell to each other~]
See some latest ZhuLiuHai updates on / zhuliuhaifiles !
Also, check out this #ZhuLiuHai fanfic author from Ao3, they have new ZhuLiuHai (and XiYao fics!!!!) AAAAAAH!: archiveofourown.org/users/ink...
I'm on Twitter at / 3zuns and I cry over ZhuLiuHai and XiYao everyday!
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Thank you for your support and for your ZhuLiuHai love!!! 💙💜
#LiuHaiKuan: #หลิวไห่ควาน & #ZhuZanJin: #จูจ้านจิ่น - #ZhuLiuHai
#จูหลิวไห่ ZhuLiuHai Thailand #류해관 #주찬금 #チュウ・ザンジン #リウ・ハイクアン
#流年似锦: (use this to search Liu Nian Shi Jin content on Weibo!) #朱刘海 - international name
*LNSJ* - Liu Nian Si Jin 流年似锦 (Chinese ship name of ZhuLiuHai, like BJYX) 🌟🌊
02:23 It's the same flight where Zhu ZanJin and Liu HaiKuan goes away from the other CQL cast when they boarded the plane, because they went to business class together (just the two of them, haha). These are said by their VIP fans, who shared the same flight.
09:40 That jacket is confirmed by ZZJ's style team and yes, it's same jacket with Liu HaiKuan's. Not sure if they shared the same jacket or ZZJ bought the exact one because LHK advertised it.
04:27 sources said this ChicBanana photoshoot was supposed to be just Liu HaiKuan and Zhu ZanJin, like the other CQL pairs (Wang Yibo & Xiao Zhan, JiYang & HaoXuan for Bazaar) but management decided to make them a trio so.... you know..... because if it's only gonna be ZZJ and LHK on the set, that'll look like a wedding photoshoot.
10:30 ZZJ posted on Weibo, “No matter what happens in the future, I thank you.”
LHK reposts ZZJ’s post and quoted it with “No matter what we face in the future, I believe in you” [they are roleplaying XIYAO! But also, it’s practically a message to each other~]
See some latest ZhuLiuHai updates and pictures on twitter.com/ZhuLiuHaiFiles!
I'm on Twitter at twitter.com/3zuns!
✨ If you'd like to support me, so I can make more of these edits, do buy me a coffee on ko-fi.com/aveedisney
Thank you for your ZhuLiuHai love!!! 💙💜
4:27 : The trio should be LXC-JGY-NMJ.... it would be so much fun wedding photoshoot with additional death stare from NMJ.
@@rekyansari2260 I agree.. .. U-u It would have been more balanced.
Rekyan Sari NMJ will be third-wheeling OFF-SCREEN too like a regular third wheel he is on-screen!
AVee and I just realize that NHS inherit the third wheeling from his Dage too. even at Fan meeting!!
poor Ji Li ignored by Zewu-jun like insignificant being. I can Imagine NMJ-NHS-JC groupies death stare for this couple years to come.
Btw, what LNSJ mean?
Lol i swear the producers made the best choice for the cast of this show. Both Hai Kuan and Yibo (the trouble makers, the two straight forward people) found their match ZZJ and XZ (both so pure and innocent and very caring) I can't stop smiling. The Lan's are so in love hahaha
The Lans are lucky to find that ONE love of their lives always 😌💙💛 and I agree that the casting was perfect. The chemistry is always intense!!
Lan Qiren's blood pressure. 😂😂😂😂💖💖💖
and the Lan's... will never have descendants by blood related 🤣🤭 ups...
Agree 100%
@@SpiritualityiskeyDevi 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol, Lan brothers sit next to each other n their soulmates on their other side 😂😂😂
Exactly this^^^ Lan XiChen loves his A-Yao like Lan WangJi loves Wei WuXian 🥺
i wanted to say this loooool
This is everything
@@lightmaybebadbuthewasjustsilly same😂
Hahaha
7:11 ZhuLuiHai lost in each other and the other side wangXian lost in each other 🥰🥰🥰
The perfect picture! ✨ They have their own worlds~
Wait, didn't both of them (Yibo and LHK) make their own ship names 🤔 😳
The only drama, where everyone is looked from GAY lense, still everyone is super supportive of each pair
I mean it is based off of a BL novel so its not that far off
If China were like Thailand ... A Bl where the two were protagonists would be perfect ... more than perfect ... it would be a masterpiece at the level of Mona Lisa. ...Just say
YES
IKR OMFG
I think their people would lose their minds lol
YES
Why have I just been focusing on YIZHAN when there's ZHULIUHAI too!! slapsforehead
😏😏😏😏
Same, I’m such an idiot 🥲
Nah, don't forget xue yang and jingchen too😅😅😅❤❤🤭🤭🤭🤭 The Untamed has 3 couples 😅😅🤗🤗🤭 Wei ying❤Lan Zhan.. Jin guangyao❤ lan xichen...Xue yang❤jingchen..😅😅😅two from Baoshan wanderer and two from Lan clan😂😂🤣🤣and the two from villain line..🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mo Dao Zu Shi effect😅😅😅👏👏👏❤❤❤
@@jackyloulabadan2638 lol glad to know I'm not the only one to think like this haha 😁😂
@@stressbytheidiotsaroundme9045 😅😅😅Baoshan line are dangerous beauty, Xiao xingchen, xue yang and song lan are love triangle😂😂😂🤭😂lucky Lan shan cause he's only one for Wei ying 🤭😂
Kinda surprised me that xichen and meng yao didn't "end up together"... their gay energy are overflowing in every scene, i belived something happened 😂
it’s so funny because my mom and i are watching the untamed and the lecture scene where xichen & meng yao met, my mom literally asked, “are they gay?” it was hilarious 🤣
Trueee wuhahha I also remembered the very first time I watched CQL (and will certainly watch it over and over again😂😂) I was like.. 'What the~~ Am I missing something?' 😂😂😂😂 on the scene wherein they have to present gifts to Lan Qiren on their first day of classes in Cloud Recesses, I was legit dying when Xichen took the gift from Meng Yao😂😂😂 What's with the subtle touches and glances to each other😂😂 Lan Brothers when they fall in love are ready to fight all odds❤️ They are even the ones who stay behind with them even when the world is against them💕
Wakaka..
The fact that LHK only emotes during interviews when he's alone with ZZJ is so funny to me. Like, ZZJ is open and expressive anytime and with other cast members, but LHK only reacts when it comes to them alone. 😆 They make it so hard not to ship them for realsies.
I still can't believe he made his own ship name...... I actually read somewhere that NHS's actor said that LHK is weird or hard to understand. He does seem to be in the best energy around ZZJ, totally unresponsive to some. Kinda reminds me of myself, I straight out ignore some people XD
He actually only cares about Zhu ZanJin (and WangYibo since they’re brothers in the show) ☺️ he’s so dedicated to the people close to him.
Now that I know LHK is exactly the same as WYB in this manner I'm beginning to think the producers secretly ran some sort of psychology tests on all actors applying for the roles just to match their personalities. And it resulted in the Lans having the same traits (and their partners likewise). XDD
Did u know that wyb is the one who made the ship name(saw somewhere,hopes it's real)
@@kathasravanam8300 Yibo made which ship name?
@@CrecentMoon yizhan
They even entwined their fingers together at 8:40...*crying in uwus*
Interlocking fingers together like that on public is a primary ZhuLiuHai instinct. They wish to show the world~~ 💖
7:16 double date energy is strong in this one
The size difference has me literally in tears 🥺🥺🥺 thats precious. ZZJ could kick me in the face and I wouldn’t wash my face again THATS ART.
7:15 is a blessed image TT (YiZhan+ZhuLiuHai)
EXACTLY!!!!! ❤
Of course its perfect.. both lan clan brothers with their soulmate.. both couple in love
8:39 that fact that they held hands made my day
7:15 my perfect pairing! That smile from there faces my gosh
liu haikuan stares at zhu zanjin like he wants to marry him right there an then. and zhu zanjin affectionately reciprocating that stare with his sparkling, angelic doe-eyes 🥺 yizhan exactly the same~ aahhhh these Lan bros!
Trueee❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍
So true.. i love them😍♥️
Omg JGY's actor is so cute I can't keep myself from imagining him as a tiny pouting cat
I just found this...and i cant stop smiliiing..there is another couple ,beside Yizhan. Lan's Clan is so amazing.😄
Yall the moment Zewujun and Meng Yao looked at each other in CQL I immediately thought "oh shit is this an adorable side couple for me to love?" and "LOOK AT THOSE ADORABLE DIMPLES!!"
But alas my heart had to be broken and it wasn't even because of the censors 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
They’re that tragic second-lead couple 😂😭😭💙💛
Li BoWen flirting with everyone made me laugh HAHAHAHA
I just don't understand HOW CAN THEY BE SO CUTE
because their chemistry is intense and they stare at each other like the other is their whole world 😭💙💛
Like a week ago, I started watching The Untamed with my mom.
Then when the part where they met my mom asked me if they were together (as a couple)
I just laughed 'cause she could see the tension between them 😹😹😹
7:12 made me feel so blessed having the 2 cp in 1 pic ☺
Me too 😭🥺
Y E S S S S S
True yeah
I swear u guys that when i saw them in te drama i feel something, i mean the way they look each other in the drama (by then i was like in the middle of MDZS (book) and i really thought that Xichen will end up with Meng Yao, but we all know that they didn't) i really think there was/is something between them 7u7
Meng Yao and Lan XiChen were “not gay” in the book, but in The Untamed it’s a whole different story. Not to mention BOTH Zhu ZanJin and Liu HaiKuan ship XiYao sooooo much 💙💛
@giovana david My thought went with you.
By the way anyone saw the news of them staying in the same hotel 🤭😏💙
Yes they are having honeymoon in the hotel 😏😏😏
Wait what?? Wheeenn?? Duddeeeee liu hai kuan is really bold
Seriously?!
😂😂😂😂 I can die peacefully now
Wa Fueee Haha. Someone posted about this on twitter and it was confirmed. They must be together at this very moment. See this tweet: twitter.com/zhuliuhaifiles/status/1267667157963304965?s=21
See, we don’t just ship ZLH because it’s cute. There’s something a lot more to it. 😏
Looks like im not the only one who ships these two😂
Definitely not- these two has a huge shipping fandom on China. 😏
Lmao even Liu Haikuan himself ships them. He’s who invented their ship name ZhuLiuHai
Those boys is too handsome no girl can handle them 😅😂
THE CAST SHIPS THEM ALREADYYYY
How could they find so many good looking guys in one casting? Like this is so unfair for us gals!
I love that in 5:11 you can appreciate that both, Haikuan and YiZhou are making sure their little people (ZanJin and Ji Li) get comfortable and visible in the picture 🥺
So no one gonna talk about the gaze they share at 10:39 heeh.. oky.😒😍
8:39 LHK being a POSSESSIVE BOYFRIEND I CAAAANTTTT I LOVE THEM
Never seen this much cute villain 😍
Finally I was able to review the video calmly ... I have no words ... it's beautiful, I'm not ashamed to say that I was touched in certain points, their looks, the smiles, their veiled jealousies ... they are wonderful and then Zhu dancing ... I love them, thank you thank you thank you for these beautiful emotions that I cannot express in words, together with the other video this will become the second to be seen before sleeping every night ... thanks for the good job.
I don’t know what to say, aaaaa i feel the same about zhuliuhai 🥺😭 sometimes even if I’m editing their clips together I end up pausing to contain myself (xD) because I can’t take how sweet they are with each other and it’s just. 100% real. Don’t hesitate to feel these things because they’re more than what we see and there’s a reason why they’re this beautiful when they’re together! ☺️ Your comment made my day ahh, thank you! have a sweetest day and night!!~ 💖
@@AVee I am too happy with your words, thank you! And I agree with everything you said. Thanks for this joy you gave me by making this video.
Reasons why i keep repeating 7:03 :
1. that loving stare and soft smile from zzj
2. LHK'S GODLY BODY PROPORTIONS
These two too.I love Zan's eyes they r so cute and with an adorable face with dimples.I love this cuties.😍😍😍😍😍
The way he smiles at haikuan~~~
Thank you once again for delivering such a wonderful video! ZhuLiuHai are the best, the sweetest, the hottest and they are so in love it makes me cry and burst from joy! They truly found each other...
you’re welcome~ they’re the just so... loving towards each other and even videos aren’t enough to show all that love!!!! 😭
Zhu Zanjin is so beautiful,so ethereal he is
I thought I was only one who thought there was something between them in the series .. because in the book there wasn't anything but in the drama I can feel something ...
Just check the part where the saluting the grand master and he hands over the box to lichen... His literally stroking his hand withh his finger... I thought i made a mistake so of course i watched it again 😉...
He is so Gentle and Adorable. ❤️😍. I really miss him.💞💞 I love them UNTAMED Guys.
As soon as they met I shipped them so much!The eye contact that they had was amazing😍🥺
I'm surprised at myself... I didn't know what i was getting myself into when i tried chinese bl drama (the untamed) for the first time...
7:12 oh dear, this melt my heart 🥺💕
PETITION FOR THIS 2 FOR HEAVENS OFFICIAL BLESSING 😍💖
Can they be not this much sweet to each other, all the time? My heart hurts, they're just too cute... T_T 💞💞💞💞💞
& Thank you so much for the Ao3 link 😍 I've been looking for good fics... 😌
Same feeling 😭 I go weak just seeing them stare at each other like that and be totally soft and exclusive for each other ughhhHHHH! Also! You’re welcome, there are new ZhuLiuHai fics coming everytime, so do check on the updates on the ao3 tag! archiveofourown.org/tags/Liu%20Haikuan*s*Zhu%20Zanjin/works (Some may be 🔞 though but still excellently made 😊)
Sweetest day to you, Lemon 💜
@@AVee Same here... & I just scream every time "Omg... Get married already" 😂❤
Of course..
Last time, I checked the tag, It had only 3 fics in English .. I couldn't believe the fandom 😂😂
But I sure will check again 😍❤
Ikr...I also die from diabetes n 💓 atk😍😍😍
ahhh~ both of my ships are sailing 😌❤️ LHK is bolder than WY when it comes to his affection towards his partner😍 cute couples!feel the 💗 LNSJ 💙💜👌🏻🌊⛵️ BJYX 💚❤️• 🌊⛵️
WYB needs to learn a bit more from his brother LHK!! aaaa, he should be fine and since he is confident and chill with Zhan Ge. I love both ships!!!!!!! uwu 💛
@@AVee ahaha! I'm fine with WYB's subtle ways on expressing his love to XZ. Both brother express their love differently but whatever interaction they do to their partner makes me and my heart go crazy! 💗 💗 I hope there will be more moments for both couples in the future! 😍 Sail away~
It's like the show! The older brother always pushed the younger one to voice his feelings. But I have to say, that the love interests are JUST like the show. XZ seems to have almost no idea and is always getting the bad reputation! I feel so bad for him in real life!
Also, LHK is older than WY and so more confident. Sadly, both WY and XZ are too popular now to be so bold. Especially in China. Even if they're just friends, it could kill their careers if more fans make trouble for XZ.
Yes Zhu Zanjin is mine. Not for you guys, he is mine only 😎
Well, if you say so... What on Earth are you waiting for, make it officials.
@@rekyansari2260 probably their country not being homophobic
then what are you waiting for, put a ring 💍 on zanzan! **remembers that you already went to Hainan together to have a honeymoon** unless the ceremony was already long done?
@@AVee 😂😂😂
@@AVee i will marry him 💍 already had him introduced to my ma and pa. They love him and approve 😎 gonna marry my 170 cm baby 😎👍
I love every opportunity to see those dimples. So adorable!
陳情令演員每個都演得很好👍👍👍，多個演員令人有深印象，難得是全都是帥哥……好多好多❤️！
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Please make more videos on liu haikuan and Zhu zan Jin. I was in a bad mood. Your video really lifted up my spirit. This couple has not been given much attention due to yibo and xiao Zhan. I think they are more cute together.
It’s amazing to hear how ZhuLiuHai makes you happy 🥺😭 I know the feeling!!! I’m just in awe with their love for each other ;-; i like Yizhan too but this is my otp, because of XiYao 🙈 will make more about them, for sure~ beautiful day to you!
@@AVee I think your the first youtuber who focused on this cute relationship. Yibo and xiao zhan unfortunately get most of the limelight. So hats off to you. Seems like haikuan is certainly the captain of his own ship as well. These are challenging times. So youtubers do make a difference. Looking forward to more such awesome videos. Cheers!
R Dey ZhuLiuHai is like a brother-ship with YiZhan 🥺💖 I remember Lan Qiren’s actor supporting these both pairs of his “nephews” and even showing in his post that XZ and Zhu ZanJin are Yibo and Liu HaiKuan’s spouse hahaha! 🤣🙈 (as the characters, definitely)
Thank you! I’ll keep loving ZhuLiuHai!!! 💜💙
@@drasian115 yeah i think so too
The most reliable source when you need ZhuLiuHai moment, thanks Queen👑 🐬🐷💙💜
AHHHHHH YUE!!!!! 🥺💙💜🌊🌟
LHK: flirting in public.
ZZJ: doesn't know and is going to the flow of his job.
Chinese censorship: Baby I'm not even here. I'm hallucination.
Thank U so much for giving us more ZLH moments. 🌊💜
They really fall in love to each other. 💕💕💕💕
you’re welcome~
how lovely it is to find a love like theirs, aaaaaaa ;-;
They look so in love with each other y'all can't deny that✨
All of thesr men are super good looking ALL of them💕
Ughhhh idk who's more cuter yibozhan or zhuliuhai..totally adorbs one 💕💕💕💕
Both!!!! 😊
I really shipped them from the start...
And I still....😏
They are very handsome
The fact LHK is touchy towards only ZZJ is enough for me to get crazy about them. I ship both yizhan and liuhai. And I love it and will be supporting them forever.
😍🤗 I really miss Meng Yao and ZEWU Jun. ❤️❤️❤️ The Untamed Guys. Keep Safe
7:52 --> haikuan getting back at zanjin for tolerating the other cast members flirting with him (zanjin)
AYA I'M CRYING , THEY LOOK PRETTY TOGETHER !!!! HJKJKSJSJ I JUST SHIP THEMMM , AHHHHH
They aret oo much like real life xiyao !! love them !
YESSSSS OMG U JUST EXTENDED MY LIFE SPAN I LOVE ZHULIUHAI 😢❤
Hahaha you’re welcome!~
Gosh...they are so beautiful . I mean ZZ can easily pass of as the most beautiful woman. Jealous here.
This is so cute!!! Ah they are both so in love 😍
The way they went from *reel to real* my friend ;__; 🌟🌊
@@AVee i have just read your 'secret info' elsewhere, so it is true, WOW 😆🥰😍 did it happen while they were filming CQL? btw I love your content so much 🌹
7:13 big and little brothers Lan with their partners😆💖
Both lan bros invented their ship names 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
i'm still stuck at them and never forget to watch video edits of them ..
they r adorable together
7:11 the best outcome of The Untamed...picture perfect...both ships sailing
Okay can we just stop to appreciate hi body proportion damn he's tall with broad shoulders and a small waist 👌😔
They all look so tall and then you have Jin Guangyu and nice huisang that are tiny
They're so adorable together 💗 thank you for this video!
they areeee!! aaaaa thank you, i'm glad you like it~
I can't believe that their age gap is just 1 year old..although hai kuan is not matured looking..their a manly and matured vibe in him..i thought he is same age of hyun bin..now i realized that korean actor is not baby face but lack of manliness..although i love everyones charm
Normal people taking a mic from another person:
*LOOKS AT THE GODDAMN MIC*
Zhuliuhai:
*LOOKS EACHOTHER IN THE EYES*
LIKE DAMNNNNNN
Lan bros and their villainous boyfriends :p I love them
I love how his face dropped after he realized what he did.
Person off screen: So Zhuliuhai
Zhu Zanjin:...😊....🙂....😳...🫢....😐....👀....😒....😖
UGH I MISS THEM EVEN MORE NOW OMG LET ME JUST GIVE THEM ALL THE LOVE THAT I HAVE FOR THEM ;((
i can’t stop smiling too omg help :((
These two are a perfectly Beautiful Couple💜💜💫💫😇🙏💖🌹🌹
They are so beautyfull and sweet each other 🥰🥰🥰
Li Bowen who flirts with everyone 🤣🤣
THIS 👏 EDIT 👏 IS 👏 FUNNY 👏 BEAUTIFUL 👏 CUTE 👏 UWUWUWU 👏 😭❤
I want fanfic with these two!
Waiting OMG😏👌
Edit//
Very funny, love jealousy of hk hahahha
Thanks for the video, you are the best.💖💖💖💖💖
you're the best too!!!! thanks for seeing the premiere~ have a beautiful dayyyy!
7:12
*Ok,WE CAUGHT THEM TWO !!*
(YiZhan,i see youuuu 👀❤️🤭)
They are so Beautiful and very talented 💜💜🌎🤗😇🙏🌹🌹
Twins Jade Gusu got their "Zhan Zhan and Zan Zan" as their soulmate
I am so happy for them.....😊😊♥️♥️
WOW EXCuSE mE @ 8:40! STOP DAT RIGHT THERE!
Now, carry on! XD
That was a real treat! So sweet hehehehe!
Gosh out of the many easy ways to hold someone’s hand ON PUBLIC, they chose to interlock hands.... 🤭 well, what else can I say.... ✨
Our excuse who is offended, but these two in real life are much more shippable than Yizian, they are beautiful together but it was
normal I don’t know, now those of the videos just looked at each other and it seems that there was already a mood, of course they don’t have anything, but they are more shippable than Yibo and Xiao, much more at least for me.
Glad I've found this clip. So happy with this ship. The Lan clans are amazing. I'm smiling like an idiot while watching this. ❤ Zhuliuhai ❤
now I shipp them more than before TT TT
can't help it, they're soooo good! 😍
Mans actually captaining almost every ship in Untamed lol
Both the Jade Twins are so whipped for their soulmates ajakkkkshhhkkk
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️😍😍😍 Zhuliuhai is ♥️😍 😍😍😍
I LOVE YOUR WORK, PLS TAKE MY HEART😭♥️♥️
Wow a part two! I’ve been blessed :D
💙💛😍!!!!
here I am, I look forward to it
Awww thank you so much!!!!!! Hope you like it~
@@AVee if I liked it ??? I loved it
Monia Soldati thank you for watching the premiere!!!! ZhuLiuHai is everything~~
That was the best Flute cover of "My heart will go on" of Celine Dion 5:30
✨✨✨😂🤩
They're so lovely❤️
Did y'all see JiLi's reaction when Zhu ZenJin cheered HuiKuan??????
I like to watch all the Untamed guys always together..