Game Theory: They’re C̴o̷min̴g̴ F̶̎o̶̍͘r̵͛̍ Y̷̦͇̍͋̋͝Ơ̷̓̀́̂̀̏̀͌̄͠U̴͕͆̿ (Mr. TomatoS and Ms. LemonS)
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Loyal Theorists, there is something sinister lurking beneath the surface of Mr. TomatoS and Ms. LemonS, and it's MUCH scarier than basic arithmetic and recognizing shapes. My job today is to dive DEEP into everything that's going on in these games and figure it out, and believe me, there is SO much to explain here but I believe I've got it all. So sit down with a nice THICK bowl of cream and let's dive in.
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#Mr.TomatoS #Ms.LemonS #Horror #Scary #IndieGame #Indie #Theory #GameTheory #Matpat - เกม
The fact that this game made him lose his sanity faster than FNAF did is honestly impressive.
FACTS 😂😂
Yeh
@Tom what did u report it for? I want to report it too but idk what category it fits.
I reported it for uhh unwanted commercial or spam, is that right?
@Tom oh uh was mine ok?
Matpat doing theories on Indie games is always great.
FRIKING FINNALY
Дай мне соль.
What is this reply section
@@TheElegantPelican 99% Bots
Bruh
I love how MatPat could traumatise us all with one singular theory and then say “BUT HEY, That’s just a theory! A GAME THEORY!”
ikr
POV: your scarred for life after seeing a petscop video then you hear "BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORY"
I KNOWWWW
real
POV: your terrified by an andy's apple farm theory and u hear matpat say "BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORY!"
“Do I get a brain now too?”
“No you do not MatPat, no brain for you.”
Mood 🤣
Never thought Matpat after losing his brain cells would go insane over a game about food, he can make himself happy by drinking tomato sause with lemon juice on top
You mean lemonade, right?
Just pouring some lemon juice a few drops on Mr Tomatoes tomato sauce
I've always wanted someone such as matpat to review this game, I love the comeback this game will create because I've always enjoyed it from its early days.
Seriously Matpat should really do a theory on signalis.
@@Skippymcskep No
All of these horror games with "oooohhhh soul trapped in a computer" makes me want to write a story where a soul develops in a computer (program or animatronic) and is just happy to be here
Yeah. "Hey, thanks for this infinite wonderland, it's pretty cool. Let me just set up this backup system to mercy kill me if I start going homicidal... done. Wheee! Off to play!"
Well that’s basically Alan Becker’s entire channel, but without the soul thing. Just a bunch of stick friends living inside your computer that help you in your daily technological related tasks.
...and sometimes saving your computer from unimaginable threats
Or he's not. Or he doesn't want to do what he was programmed to do.
Fr and the game could still be scary and have a villain, it could be either someone on the inside who was there before the thing or person that developed or was put in it and is happy about it, OR someone on the outside?
Anyway it could be about how they’re happy in this world they were put into, but someone or something is now threatening to ruin the world or completely destroy it thereby destroying that person/thing/ai WHATEVER IT IS’s home!!!
So instead of it all being all suffering and destruction and death, it would be about fighting against the evil (which could be rly scary aka horror game) to SAVE the main character and their newfound friends in the world inside the game or whatever it is, home…
Idk this was just an idea building onto yours👉👈
Hope that’s alright haha, I think it’s a great idea man! :]
Have a great day! ^^
Yeah, I feel like that trope is overused. At this point, all ARG-like stories MatPat covers seem to be pretty much the same. I'm dying for someone to subvert/parody them.
I love the detail that Ms LemonS has more control than Mr. Tomatos with her having 70% control, (and Mr Tomatos has 30% control) presuming she was a teacher back then. It would make sense that she would have more control of her self as most teachers have to abstain from lashing out at their students. Anyways great video Mat!
That is not what the % means, that is the vessel limit, meaning the amount of limit put on the origin specimen. The higher the limiter, the less power the origin has. Luise bypasses this with her multiple personalities however
Its actually the other way around with mr tomatoes having 70% and ms lemon has 70%
3:55 That "Chocolate soup" had the exact same energy as MatPat shouting "music man"
I feel my soul violently yanking on my mortal coil
MUSIC MAN!
MUSIC MAN
MUSIC MAN!
MUSIC MAN!
MUSIC MAN!
seeing matpat reach his breaking point is wayyyyyy more scarier than the game itself
He sounded like a man on the brink of insanity. He was willing to do anything for the lore. You could see the madness is his eyes. His smile was slightly manic. This game had broken him, and he would break it back.
If you don't already know, I found Austin from Game Theory's new channel:
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I know right, poor matpat lol!
Imagine if he reaches is breqking point with fnaf if they release another book... *it would be worse* ...
@@fredfazber Yup your totally right
his rant on what he wanted to do to the lemon was so relatable 😂
I guess you were really SOUR about her 🍋 (i am unable to make actually funny jokes)
@@acoolperson9045 you're not alone lol
Very true
So relatable! Haha
You were literally the first person I thought of when he started to rant LMAO
2:33 “ so suck down that cream theorists “
Matt patt will regret those words 😂😂
Chocolate Soup has the same energy as Deep Fried Oreos.
“Today starts my villain arc” and “Suck down that cream theorists and hide your chocolate soup!” are one of the best out of context moments.
"Today, we're gonna be dealing with some rotten fruit." *a literal rotten apple flies at matpats face*
And “Your eating mrs lemons lemons”
What about the fake ID card?
I think you forgot about "I will squeeze out all of her juices" and "I'll shove it down mr. TomatoeS throat".
*”HES GETTING MISS LEMONS LEMONADE!!”* that’s more out of context
The fact that a game about feeding tomatoes and lemons has horrific lore is equally hilarious and terrifying
I am so happy that we got the theory though.
@@Aperson11028 of course a basil pfp would write like that 👍
Sound like undertale
@@Aperson11028 That's a bot you just replied to.
@@h0m3st4r they're getting smarter..
I love how someone has made an actual game with actual lore based on this intro 😂
If you go to 9:19 you can see there is a folder tilted 'style theory logos' and this video came out a week or so before style theory released,not a huge discovery and nobody is going to read this but whatever
Im convinced a tomato and a lemon have more lore than anything else in this world
Yes.
Oh wow, bots. 😊
*Five nights at Freddy’s has joined the chat*
ya
*Battle cats has joined the chat*
That intro was hilarious. Props to the team for making it 😂
Sorry that every reply above me is a bot. I totally agree I loved it
@david bot
@Don't Read My Profile Picture bot
@@ChaosEnj0yer WHAT NO WAY I HAD NO CLUE!!1!1!!1!!1!11!!!11!1!
Right
0:15 "I would like a Puppy Playtime"
I would like a popy platimr
*EHUUUUEHEHEUUEHEHHEUUE*
Hilarious that the intro actually got made into a full game
Seeing Editor Dan going through both games during his streams and the amount of persistence to get through them was absolutely amazing.
I’d love to watch those- is there a VOD channel on TH-cam?
I tried to find them, but my surface-level search turned up nothing.
@@ancientbrassdragon2679 I got up you, The channels called GT live that’s were you see all the “vods” I say that cus there always prerecorded but unedited
@HuddyGamer he's talking about head editor Dan's vods
@AncientBrassDragon his Channel is "That Cybert Channel" and his vods should be under the live section
The fact that MatPat managed to make a convincing theory out of a game where you feed a tomato says a lot about his dedication. And sanity.
809 likes and no replies? lemme fix that.
thank you
I mean
That's kinda oversimplifying it
and ours.
What sanity?
I love how in the game’s warning it literally tells you “and pain” when it’s talking about what this game includes 😂 Just another foreshadowing of Matpat’s ultimate suffering
Btw if you can’t see it it’s all the orange letters with some spaces in between
Bro, this intro was amazing, also i love this channel and all the other theory channels, I've been watching you for years and I love what you do, you honestly just make my days better!
Imagine this being the first video someone watched of game theory and he just gos on this insane rant about how he’s gonna force feed a tomato the juice of their friend
It'll prepare them for the FNaF videos.
😂😂😂😂😂
OH GOD (dies)
Actually im a food theorist viewer and this is my first game theory video 😂😂 so where do i get the context for this ?
@Tanvir Pratap game theory mat has lost his mind its been too much fnad
The rant at 2:22 gave me major vibes of Cave Johnson. “When life gives you lemons… MAKE LIFE TAKE THE LEMONS BACK! ASK TO SEE LIFES MANAGER!!!” 😂😂😂
Hey PoPCross.
“When life gives you lemonS, make lemonadE and shove it down mr. TomatoS’s throat”
Oh wow. Didn't expect me to see you here.
You watch Game Theory, Popcross? Nice
Wait popcross studieos? I didn't know you watched game theory
The game developer is genius.
Games interacting with each other
That's just genius
2:09 **nervously** ok, let's move onto something else. **awkward laugh**
Poor Sebastian and Luise, they did nothing wrong from what we know. But they were the ones picked for this horrible and painful experiment. It’s so sad to see the broken and real version of Sebastian, and hear how Luise says it’s a bummer she actually can’t die
That's sad...
The developers of that game truly poured their heart into these games and it shows, a Lore that deep and THAT difficult to get to is just crazy awesome, HUGE respect to them
Developer*
Bro made his dream come true
Five Nights at Freddy's
2014
BROWSE GAME
8:45 💀Bro violated him
Matpats "oh nooooooooo" when stabbing Ms lemon failed is adorable and funny
Wow
I hope Head Editor Dan gets his rest, this is an AMAZING video, thank you MatPat and co. for being the best youtubers EVER
MatPat ant co.
@@mosqit4324 oh, whoops srry
@@firegalaxy86670 ?
@@Ch0ccyM1lk2 hi
(I replied so I can get likes lol)
@@firegalaxy86670 its actually easier to get likes for commenting on your own, replies dont usually get likes
At exactly 11:11 “waiting for” then an ad shows up that says “the $67 software…” it was perfectly timed and hilarious. I love your videos btw ❤!
20:58 man, massive wave of emotion hit me hearing the og intro at the end, I'll miss Mat
i think you posted this on the wrong video..
@@iamarapscllionit’s a like farm
"He probably wants chocolate sauce. But no! He's getting Ms Lemons' Lemonade!!!"
_Yeah, that kinda sounds a bit more suggestive than Matt probably intended😬_
Ikr
@Man man also tf
Ye....that sounded a litle.... yee
Especialy when find out they were/ (were suposed to be) togheter when they were humans
th-cam.com/video/mafdnEXlLIA/w-d-xo.html
He’s not Mr tomatoes buddy.
The intros just keep getting BETTER and BETTER! Theorist editors team is SUPERIOR!
And the animation is so realistic
@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok
@@Idk-yp2sy yeah it is
please make a second theory on this topic it is very interesting and your reaction towards MS lemons were hilarious
The intro I'm upsessed!(idk how to spell it) 0:00
2:10 this threat is terrifying I might use it
3:54 this was my favorite part in GTLive
I'm a little disappointed that he didn't mention the secret. If you type Ms.Luise* in the Ms Lemons game you can find a door, of which you need a key to open it. I'm not sure if he knows about it, but I hope he finds out if not
Not gonna say what's inside cause spoilers
*Wrong name
A secret door? What does it lead to?
We need to get your comment higher up bud
Well that’s interesting
Actually, you have to type in her real name, Ms. Luise, after getting the perfect ending where she leaves the classroom unattended.
@@silverbone4845 Her art room.
And if you take the red letters in the warning screen in mr tomato and put them together it makes the sentence “And Pain”
The game developers must have never expected anyone to come this far like damnnnnn
Nah
Pretty sure every developer that makes games with arg elements atleast have matpat in mind while making em
@@zocker2586 true
Who knew eight months later he would say goodbye to the internet
FR
Matpat: I realized their was one number that kept repeating..
Me: ...All of them?
Smae
Ash has taught MatPat well. First the “the waffle house has found it’s new host” and now “start of my villain arc”
Speak of the devil, my villan arc is literally a whiteboyem esque clone of Bon the rabbit! (Yes fr I'm not kidding)
@King Longface "Finally it's here 🤓🤓
@King Longface i never understood the purpose of these bots
th-cam.com/video/ShutUpStupid/w-d-xo.htmlBots Finally It’s Here 🤠
@@Axeeco probably trying to get you to watch videos
I've never seen Mat so aggressive and Focused towards shoving Lemons up Tomato's throat 😂😂😂😂
@Man man Finally no-one asked 🤠
@Man man finally your dad left for the milk 🤠
Did you know the intro for this is now a funny Mr tomato’s parody
Daily youtuber out of context
Matpat:i will give him ms lemon's lemonade
the amount of work that goes into these intros is mind blowing
props to the game theory team
Oh no your comment has already stolen your comment
Yess
I love how both Matt and Markiplier today have turned to these peculiar SCPs who could take over the world if they wanted to
Heisenberg, are you a bot? I see you everywhere.
HOW ARE YOU EVERYWHERE
True tho
Evrywhere i go
İ see his face...
Respond to prove you are not an alt or bot.
Mr Tomato's game game made me feel like I was watching a flash animation with its MS paint aesthetic. and the kitchen gives me the feeling of old flash kitchens in 2012 or FOX kitchens
Matpat you did get the food wasting end in MrtomatoS right basically you have to put all foods in the blender.
5:39 Fun fact: URLs can't contain spaces, so they are encoded with a "%20" (that's probably not a coincidence)
That's new... Many urls I've observed on my browser mostly use either "+" or "%"...🤔
With how many games like this that Matt has played and deep dived into, I want to see what he could come up with for an indy style horror game.
*indie and I think that would be awsome
agreed
Are we not gonna talk abt how he had the lettuce from cooking companions in the intro? Love that game 😅
Ms lemons eyes become smaller when u get more irritation
i dont remember being excited for a game like this since ddlc. its fascinating how the developers mind works
11:58 Just a thought but since there’s a human in both fruits, if you kill tomato(and by association the human), the human inside lemon might give up, and instead the entity ends up finally absorbing the human inside lemon. To me this just compels the argument of being broken after loss.
Lilith and all the other lemon entity's are ms lemons different personalities
@@maribelmartinez7156 ohhh! i get it it’s one of the split personalities of the human absorbing the other, ty 🍓
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cant believe an intro bit ended up getting a fan game
It’s been about a year so idk if there’s a third game yet, but the first game is Tomato - a fruit that’s a vegetable but it’s a fruit - and the second is Lemon - a genetic mutation that wouldn’t occur naturally without human intervention. My theory if there is a third game is that that fruit (or vegetable?) would fall under the same kind of misfit fruit category
orange
I will forever love that semi-unhinged reaction to Ms.LemonS.
Ahh, yes. The souls trapped inside a video game. The classic.
I was just about to say this. This concept is becoming the new "it was all a dream" lol
2:19 great to hear
Who knew the beginning would become an actual game?
Whoever animated the intro, you've got my congratulations, that animated version of MatPat looks better than the one he's been using for less than a decade.
My goodness the animators nailed the animation style of Mr. Tomato and Ms. Lemons in the intro. Love it!
Bro needed an assistant to think of games to theorize about
Bro really managed to traumatise me for the rest of my life just by a game
It's crazy to think that this man influenced me to play so many games and try out different things in life over the last half decade of my life, I would never be the same person if it weren't for you Mat, I want to thank you for shaping the person I am today and how you influenced me to be a nerd just like you and go more into video games, or tv shows or movies, and get a better understanding of them, and how you've influenced me be nerdy and not let others judge me, but most importantly, I want to thank you for all the fun times and videos you put on the channel for everyone to watch and enjoy, thank you MatPat.
I'm not reading this
@@dominicjacobsen2795then why are you responding?
@jjackmn1 idk
@@dominicjacobsen2795 Technically you did
I’ve been waiting for a Mr Tomato and Mrs Lemon theory, this is a dream come true! It’s always an amazing day whenever Matpat posts!
@Man man Is this a Rick roll or something inappropriate?
The beginning with the Lemmonaid got me and my friend dying 💀
Matpat saying unhinged and crazy stuff for us in a 20ish minute long video "BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY, A GAMEEEE THEORYYYY!!! Thanks for watching"
Eugene and Sebastian being the names of 2 different cartoon crabs makes me giggle
Coincidence? I think NOT
I'll miss you matthew... You made our childhoods
3:55
I love his reaction so much.
When you asked what chocolate soup was. I was about to pause and search the entire internet digging for an answer for you but then nope how silly of me to think the man who dedicates hours upon hours researching for videos didn’t look up “what is chocolate soup?” 😂
Retaining items and stuff between separate games is incredible.
i love how MatPat goes on abt our potential mission for the 3 characters in these games that has themselves tragic stories then proceeds to say "How do you like them apples?"
Its so cool how mrs. Lemon and mr. Tomato can link- and how like- if somthing happens in mrs. Lemon like losing an eye, you lose the eye in mr. Tomato.
MatPat: finally I solved the fnaf timeline, at last I can rest
MrTomato and MrsLemonade: allow us to introduce ourselves
*MrsLemon
2:17 out of context be like:
😳
2:33 also
Mr. Tomato version of Mat Pat would say, "You must feed me LORE!"
I've never realized that the bottom says "RUINING YOUR CHILDHOOD SINCE 2011"
Bro, the way how those games are inconected together is genius and amazing.
I have legit been dying for him to cover this since the first game came out. So happy that day has come.
My lil brother showed me Mr. TomatoS n we played it together, I had no idea about Ms.LemonS. I cant wait to get home and show him this video then play both of these games :D
0:39 god ill miss that
11:08 if you close and open Mr.Tomato without playing multiple times Mr.Tomato says: ''I used to be a Person''
One of the few times I've seen Mat play the games before the theories come out, been so early. Excited to see Mat's ideas on the ridiculous nature of these games.
the game maker and developer is definitely one of the geniuses. hard enough to create one game with a lore so intriguing but now 2 games connected with codes and stuff. very cool creation
beware of the tomato who speaks in squares
The editor's 'error' at the end of the video was spot on! Props to the editor's team for that ;3
It was genius on the part of the creators to have both games communicate with each other and solve their lore
Few month later, this intro became real as a game
Why is this my favourite game theory video outside of the petscop stuff and what I automatically default to watching
Mr tomatos game reminds me of that one pumpkin game where he asks for food such as "I'm very hungry, give me the bread, no I don't want that!"
I hope when the third game comes out, he completes the lore.
If you pay specific attention at the wingding screen. Some letters are orange. They spell “And pain.”
I think MatPat rlly went insane when he said 2:33
I love how interconnected the two games are it just adds that extra spook factor to it