Man those big wide front tires were one of the selling points of the MX tractors over the grand Ls. I’ve wondered about this same upgrade for a while now seeing as I’m considering buying a larger grand L series or MX series.
Yep, These are actually 1" wider than the MX series and about an inch and a half shorter diameter to keep the 4wd ratio correct. 4WD works better than factory now IMO with a 1% lead instead of the 1% lag with the factory front tires. Turns nicer in 4wd now without tearing as much up at full turn, especially on the lawn. If your dealing on the tractor yet, have them work in a pair of MX style rims only and buy the tires yourself. They should do that easy enough since the rims themselves aren't that expensive. Especially at their cost. I had them throw the rims in on my deal and traded in the factory L series rims and tires back to them for a credit. YMMV.
@@Ryan_Maineaquaria Yep, just remember you DON'T want the TIRES (12-16.5) that come with the MX though, you need the 31.5x13x16.5 tires I have in the video and mount them on the MX style rims for the L series. Then the 4WD is happy!
Shared the part about the different rims and wider tires with my dealer the other day. My new L6060 is coming in from the factory any day now. He said that for warranty reasons he would not put those rims/tires on my machine. I’m also waiting on news about the availability of R14 tires for the L6060. The R14 option was recently made available for the MX6000.
@@wildieken2641 sounds like the dealer being overly cautious. My dealer was the one who actually mounted the wheels to my tires and put them on the machine before I picked it up. If it's the drive ratio they are worried about, it's actually better with the tires I have. Turns nicer, tears the lawn up less, and noticeably less bind than the factory setup. I'm not at all worried about this setup but you do have to live with your local dealer on warranty, so I get it. My dealer's service manager drove it in 4wd on hard ground. He was impressed and commented that this is how they should have come from the factory.
I bought this exact tire and wheel combo for my 6060, I didn’t install them yet but they seem much taller than the factory ones when placed side by side.
@WayneDenny44 if you had 10-16.5 tires on the factory wheel, the 31.5 x 13x 16.5 Skid Power HD from BKT has the correct rolling circumference. They may look a bit taller with no weight on them, but the calculations are right for that brand tire. And they are just slightly taller loaded. That's what gets you to a 1% lead situation instead of the factory 1% lag situation. Works great on my rig. If you have a different brand tire, they could have a different rolling circumference. You may have to check...
Sorry I don't have the part number handy. But the dealer should have it handy in the sales department. The parts department will have trouble finding it because it is an accessory available at time of purchase. So it will be in the order software for the tractor. Then parts can order that part number. 👍
Not sure if you have seen this video or not, but just in case here's the link... th-cam.com/video/XE9qnHKUjH8/w-d-xo.html The larger lights are Baja Designs XL80 with "Scene" lenses for light spread. The smaller ones are Baja Designs Squadron Pros with flood lens. The strobes are all Feniex Fusion Dual color LEDS. The headlights are Morimoto 3.0 2-stroke (H4 Replacements). and the Side lights on the hood are GTR lighting replacements for 7440 bulbs. Since the pricing changes around the net all the time, best to google for best pricing...
I have an L4060 HSTC on order (when it comes in, nobody knows) and one of the things I was thinking of was this exact option. Now after seeing it in operation, pass. What got me thinking about it is I was loading logs into a truck and trailer yesterday with my B2410, and that loader in one at a time, can't dual function it, so its a balancing act of keeping the bucket level while raising so a log doesn't roll back. I can't get over how quiet it is with the cab. I was in both a JD 3046R and a Mahindra 1538, both were louder, the Mahindra was especially loud. I ordered mine with dual ports in the back, didn't know there was a third option, where is that lever located? Would love to see a video on full operations with each lever, especially for that loader setup you have.
There are slots for all three rear valves in the panel for the 60 series. Adding the 3 rear valves just fills them up. All function the same depending if you ordered standard or float detent valves. I installed 2 standard and 1 float detent just in case I needed it. Your dealer may be installing them when the tractor gets to the dealer in which case, is not much labor to install 3 valves vs 2 since the stack together on the chassis anyway. And you can still dual function the loader on the 60 series. Just the spill valve stops from full curl at the topmost operation of the loader. Like I say, I could have lived without it myself. I wanted a full self leveling loader and the spill valve is not the answer for that. 👍
Like what you did with the front tire upgrade. Just wondering, are you concerned about possibly voiding any Kubota warranties if you do this? Thanks for your response.
I'm not too worried about that on this. I actually have the front to rear gear 4wd ratio at a 1 percent lead instead of the lag situation it had with the stock tires. I can tell the 4wd system is much happier now.
@@Longslyde1 Thanks for the quick response. I saw that you purchased the Kubota 4 in 1 Bucket. I just ordered my L6060 but I held off on the Bucket. I couldn’t find much info on the Kubota Bucket. I am currently looking at a W.R. Long 4 in 1 Bucket. Have you used your 4 in 1Bucket? Any feedback would be appreciated.
@@wildieken2641 I just used it all this weekend and going out with it this morning again. 4 in one buckets are a Swiss army knife in my opinion. They do a lot of jobs but don't really excel at any of them. Just nice not to switch buckets all the time. I would say the Kubota bucket seems to work well. I'm helping a friend clear some trees with it. It's no grapple, but it will get you by if you need it too. I recommend finding the best bucket with the lightest weight. I can really tell the bucket is on the machine even when its empty. The Kubota bucket has got some weight to it, but I know it's lighter than most 4 in one's.
@@Longslyde1 Totally agree with you on your analysis on the 4 in 1 Bucket. I believe the W.R. Long bucket is about 100 pounds heavier than the Kubota. I just thought of another issue. What have you done for Ballast? It looks like you don’t use the Kubota Wheel weights. I probably start on mine by putting fluid in the rear tires and take it from there. I currently have a NH TC33 Tractor and foam filled the front tires which worked out well. Kubota is also making optional R14 Tires available for some of their product lines. Not yet available for the L6060.
@@wildieken2641 yeah admittedly I don't use ballast. I use the tractor a lot on the lawn and I just use a rear mount implement like a blade when I really need the weight. And I haul the tractor regularly and just don't need to lug the extra weight on the trailer when I don't need to. I struggled with putting ballast in the wheels, but happy that I didn't. I can throw a 400lb implement on the back and being that is out behind the tractor, I get more leverage per lb than wheel weights. Works well for me anyway but each their own of course. Ymmv.
Really like the front tire change. I have a L4060 with R4's. You mentioned a ratio of 15640 and not being a tire guy, this is front to rear or vice versa?
It's the mechanical ratio front to rear on the 4wd system of the Grand L's. 1.5640. If you get rolling circumference of the tires, you can figure out if you are in the correct lead/lag allowance for 4wd. Factory tires are in a slight lag situation. Meaning the rear tires are slightly faster than the front, pushing the front but only by about 1%. My tire set up is about 1% lead where the front is slightly faster. I like this scenario better as it turns better with less drag. Especially on the lawn. Rule of thumb is you want to be within 5% otherwise you can cause damage to the 4wd. Keep in mind rolling circumference changes with load and tire pressure so your ratio can fluctuate. You can play with a calculator here if you get the rolling circumference for your tire from the manufacturers website. www.titan-intl.com/resources/Lead-Lag-Calculator
Just ordered a L6060HSTC today to upgrade from my L3540HSTC. Wanting to do the tire upgrade you’ve done. What brand tires are you using for the front. Dealer said they would credit me the tires that come with my tractor and provide the rims off a mx but I have to order and supply tires.
How are you guy’s schmoozing your dealer into even considering this? I tried to get my dealer to do it and they immediately shot it down, citing warranty concerns.
@@ohioblue672 They do have to prove the change caused any issues. I can positively tell you that this ratio works better than factory, because it closer to the correct ratio front to rear than they came from the factory IMO. And having a slight "lead" situation is better for the 4wd, especially when turning. I've forgotten to disengage the 4WD between my Dad's place and mine (3 Miles) on clean asphalt and it wasn't noticeable at all in driving and did not heat up the transmission either. The factory setup was noticeable (would push in turns) and would cause damage if run excessively in 4WD for long periods IMO. But this is just my experience and you do have to live with your dealer on warranty. So to each their own. I've had a few people tell me this is how they should have come from the factory and I agree. 2 years on this setup and have had zero issues with MUCH less tearing up of the lawn when in 4WD. Cheers!
Thanks for the video. Really interested in those front tires as an option. I see from the sticker on the tractor that it was purchased at arnold's. I got my last tractor at Arnold's in St cloud and I'm thinking about a grand l now from the same dealer. Which Arnold's did you get this from? Thanks
@@Longslyde1 thank you. I was just there this morning trying to work out the deals of my new 4060 that's coming. Pretty sure the 4060 has smaller rear tires than your 6060, and I'm having a hard time finding front tires that are wider yet still hold the same drive ratio to the rear tires which are on the tractor, and those rear tires are 17.5x24
@@cdmajesty4803 That's what I have. 17.5 x 24 rear Industrial. Fronts were 10-16.5 from factory. My wider tire set up will work perfectly on that. You just need to get Wayne ( i'm assuming you worked with Wayne Hendrichs) to look up the rims you need. He probably has the invoice from mine yet somewhere. You will need to supply him the tires though. 👍
@cd majesty tell Wayne it's Troy's tractor. The one that trades his stuff in cleaner than he got it. Lol! He'll chuckle on that...he can call me if there's any questions on what we did. No problem there...
I believe all 60 series have the same ratio. You could verify by checking front and rear tire sizes stock between the L6060 and your model. If they match up between the models, the gear ratio is the same and this change can be done in the same way. 👍
@@Longslyde1 Yes I'm sure same ratios, just wondering if the MX rim will mount to my axle. I believe it would as I think 4760,5060,5460 and 6060 share front axles (they can all use the larger LA1055 loader, while the 4060 cannot). Thanks and nice tractor 😎
@@brandane190 oh yes, I see. I think the rims are the same also. Your dealer can look up the stock rims between your model and a L6060 to be certain. If they match, the MX rim will fit perfect. 👍
@First Choice Mechanical Most 12-16.5 tires are 32.70" - 33" height, these are 31.5", do you're own research to verify it. Different brands of tires will have different rolling circumference. Some may be close with shallow tread. Not looking to flame anyone but I want to make sure people realize they are different heights and will throw the ratio off. 12-16.5 tires on an L series will bind the 4wd a bit with most brands of tires. Although it may not cause damage, it isn't the best scenario on the L series. It will "work", but to each their own.... research your tires and use the calculator to make sure you're within 5% lead/lag and you will be within the guidelines. Here's the calculator, and the Mechanical ratio is 1.5640 for the grand L's. www.titan-intl.com/resources/Lead-Lag-Calculator
Nor sure what you mean? Third function works fine. This is the spill control valve. Separate from the third function, and frankly I wouldn't do the spill valve option again. Was hoping it was more like auto leveling which it is not...
That's exactly what I think too. Was hoping this acted more like an auto leveling loader. It is not... save the money unless you have a bunch of newbies running your loader...lol.
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Your leds are making me drool!!! I am ordering a 6060 in the spring... YOU HELPED ME COMMUNICATE to the dealer how its done👍👍
Glad I could help! 👍
Only video I could find that show this! Thank you!!!
Right on! I couldn't find any at the time I was doing it myself...
Roroute that hoses behind the bucket if you can, so they don't catch on debris or a stump. GREAT JOB👍👍
Man those big wide front tires were one of the selling points of the MX tractors over the grand Ls. I’ve wondered about this same upgrade for a while now seeing as I’m considering buying a larger grand L series or MX series.
Yep, These are actually 1" wider than the MX series and about an inch and a half shorter diameter to keep the 4wd ratio correct. 4WD works better than factory now IMO with a 1% lead instead of the 1% lag with the factory front tires. Turns nicer in 4wd now without tearing as much up at full turn, especially on the lawn. If your dealing on the tractor yet, have them work in a pair of MX style rims only and buy the tires yourself. They should do that easy enough since the rims themselves aren't that expensive. Especially at their cost. I had them throw the rims in on my deal and traded in the factory L series rims and tires back to them for a credit. YMMV.
@@Longslyde1 that’s a great idea with buying just the Mx front rims!
@@Ryan_Maineaquaria Yep, just remember you DON'T want the TIRES (12-16.5) that come with the MX though, you need the 31.5x13x16.5 tires I have in the video and mount them on the MX style rims for the L series. Then the 4WD is happy!
Shared the part about the different rims and wider tires with my dealer the other day. My new L6060 is coming in from the factory any day now. He said that for warranty reasons he would not put those rims/tires on my machine. I’m also waiting on news about the availability of R14 tires for the L6060. The R14 option was recently made available for the MX6000.
@@wildieken2641 sounds like the dealer being overly cautious. My dealer was the one who actually mounted the wheels to my tires and put them on the machine before I picked it up. If it's the drive ratio they are worried about, it's actually better with the tires I have. Turns nicer, tears the lawn up less, and noticeably less bind than the factory setup. I'm not at all worried about this setup but you do have to live with your local dealer on warranty, so I get it. My dealer's service manager drove it in 4wd on hard ground. He was impressed and commented that this is how they should have come from the factory.
that's a good looking tractor thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching! 👍
I bought this exact tire and wheel combo for my 6060, I didn’t install them yet but they seem much taller than the factory ones when placed side by side.
@WayneDenny44 if you had 10-16.5 tires on the factory wheel, the 31.5 x 13x 16.5 Skid Power HD from BKT has the correct rolling circumference. They may look a bit taller with no weight on them, but the calculations are right for that brand tire. And they are just slightly taller loaded. That's what gets you to a 1% lead situation instead of the factory 1% lag situation. Works great on my rig. If you have a different brand tire, they could have a different rolling circumference. You may have to check...
@@Longslyde1 Great, thanks for the reply. Yeah I bought everything exactly the same based off your video so I should be good!
Great set up!!!! What is the part number of the 8 way manifold quick disconnect?
Sorry I don't have the part number handy. But the dealer should have it handy in the sales department. The parts department will have trouble finding it because it is an accessory available at time of purchase. So it will be in the order software for the tractor. Then parts can order that part number. 👍
Link to the lights your ordered. I’d like to upgrade mine as well
Not sure if you have seen this video or not, but just in case here's the link...
th-cam.com/video/XE9qnHKUjH8/w-d-xo.html
The larger lights are Baja Designs XL80 with "Scene" lenses for light spread. The smaller ones are Baja Designs Squadron Pros with flood lens. The strobes are all Feniex Fusion Dual color LEDS. The headlights are Morimoto 3.0 2-stroke (H4 Replacements). and the Side lights on the hood are GTR lighting replacements for 7440 bulbs. Since the pricing changes around the net all the time, best to google for best pricing...
I have an L4060 HSTC on order (when it comes in, nobody knows) and one of the things I was thinking of was this exact option. Now after seeing it in operation, pass. What got me thinking about it is I was loading logs into a truck and trailer yesterday with my B2410, and that loader in one at a time, can't dual function it, so its a balancing act of keeping the bucket level while raising so a log doesn't roll back. I can't get over how quiet it is with the cab. I was in both a JD 3046R and a Mahindra 1538, both were louder, the Mahindra was especially loud. I ordered mine with dual ports in the back, didn't know there was a third option, where is that lever located? Would love to see a video on full operations with each lever, especially for that loader setup you have.
There are slots for all three rear valves in the panel for the 60 series. Adding the 3 rear valves just fills them up. All function the same depending if you ordered standard or float detent valves. I installed 2 standard and 1 float detent just in case I needed it. Your dealer may be installing them when the tractor gets to the dealer in which case, is not much labor to install 3 valves vs 2 since the stack together on the chassis anyway.
And you can still dual function the loader on the 60 series. Just the spill valve stops from full curl at the topmost operation of the loader. Like I say, I could have lived without it myself. I wanted a full self leveling loader and the spill valve is not the answer for that. 👍
Where did you source your European / Quick hitch three point links?
@@EngineerOfThings Agristore USA online.
@@Longslyde1 Are the lower link ends weld on, or a direct replacement for the Kubota ends?
@@EngineerOfThings i did cut and weld them on. Only because it's what they had at the time in that class rating.
Like what you did with the front tire upgrade. Just wondering, are you concerned about possibly voiding any Kubota warranties if you do this? Thanks for your response.
I'm not too worried about that on this. I actually have the front to rear gear 4wd ratio at a 1 percent lead instead of the lag situation it had with the stock tires. I can tell the 4wd system is much happier now.
@@Longslyde1 Thanks for the quick response. I saw that you purchased the Kubota 4 in 1 Bucket. I just ordered my L6060 but I held off on the Bucket. I couldn’t find much info on the Kubota Bucket. I am currently looking at a W.R. Long 4 in 1 Bucket. Have you used your 4 in 1Bucket? Any feedback would be appreciated.
@@wildieken2641 I just used it all this weekend and going out with it this morning again. 4 in one buckets are a Swiss army knife in my opinion. They do a lot of jobs but don't really excel at any of them. Just nice not to switch buckets all the time. I would say the Kubota bucket seems to work well. I'm helping a friend clear some trees with it. It's no grapple, but it will get you by if you need it too. I recommend finding the best bucket with the lightest weight. I can really tell the bucket is on the machine even when its empty. The Kubota bucket has got some weight to it, but I know it's lighter than most 4 in one's.
@@Longslyde1 Totally agree with you on your analysis on the 4 in 1 Bucket. I believe the W.R. Long bucket is about 100 pounds heavier than the Kubota. I just thought of another issue. What have you done for Ballast? It looks like you don’t use the Kubota Wheel weights. I probably start on mine by putting fluid in the rear tires and take it from there. I currently have a NH TC33 Tractor and foam filled the front tires which worked out well. Kubota is also making optional R14 Tires available for some of their product lines. Not yet available for the L6060.
@@wildieken2641 yeah admittedly I don't use ballast. I use the tractor a lot on the lawn and I just use a rear mount implement like a blade when I really need the weight. And I haul the tractor regularly and just don't need to lug the extra weight on the trailer when I don't need to. I struggled with putting ballast in the wheels, but happy that I didn't. I can throw a 400lb implement on the back and being that is out behind the tractor, I get more leverage per lb than wheel weights. Works well for me anyway but each their own of course. Ymmv.
Really like the front tire change. I have a L4060 with R4's. You mentioned a ratio of 15640 and not being a tire guy, this is front to rear or vice versa?
It's the mechanical ratio front to rear on the 4wd system of the Grand L's. 1.5640. If you get rolling circumference of the tires, you can figure out if you are in the correct lead/lag allowance for 4wd. Factory tires are in a slight lag situation. Meaning the rear tires are slightly faster than the front, pushing the front but only by about 1%. My tire set up is about 1% lead where the front is slightly faster. I like this scenario better as it turns better with less drag. Especially on the lawn. Rule of thumb is you want to be within 5% otherwise you can cause damage to the 4wd. Keep in mind rolling circumference changes with load and tire pressure so your ratio can fluctuate. You can play with a calculator here if you get the rolling circumference for your tire from the manufacturers website. www.titan-intl.com/resources/Lead-Lag-Calculator
Just ordered a L6060HSTC today to upgrade from my L3540HSTC. Wanting to do the tire upgrade you’ve done. What brand tires are you using for the front. Dealer said they would credit me the tires that come with my tractor and provide the rims off a mx but I have to order and supply tires.
BKT 31.5 x 13 x 16.5 Skid Power HD. 👍
@@Longslyde1 Thank you I appreciate it.
How are you guy’s schmoozing your dealer into even considering this? I tried to get my dealer to do it and they immediately shot it down, citing warranty concerns.
@@ohioblue672 They do have to prove the change caused any issues. I can positively tell you that this ratio works better than factory, because it closer to the correct ratio front to rear than they came from the factory IMO. And having a slight "lead" situation is better for the 4wd, especially when turning. I've forgotten to disengage the 4WD between my Dad's place and mine (3 Miles) on clean asphalt and it wasn't noticeable at all in driving and did not heat up the transmission either. The factory setup was noticeable (would push in turns) and would cause damage if run excessively in 4WD for long periods IMO. But this is just my experience and you do have to live with your dealer on warranty. So to each their own. I've had a few people tell me this is how they should have come from the factory and I agree. 2 years on this setup and have had zero issues with MUCH less tearing up of the lawn when in 4WD. Cheers!
Thanks for the video. Really interested in those front tires as an option. I see from the sticker on the tractor that it was purchased at arnold's. I got my last tractor at Arnold's in St cloud and I'm thinking about a grand l now from the same dealer. Which Arnold's did you get this from? Thanks
St. Cloud store. 👍
@@Longslyde1 thank you. I was just there this morning trying to work out the deals of my new 4060 that's coming. Pretty sure the 4060 has smaller rear tires than your 6060, and I'm having a hard time finding front tires that are wider yet still hold the same drive ratio to the rear tires which are on the tractor, and those rear tires are 17.5x24
@@cdmajesty4803 That's what I have. 17.5 x 24 rear Industrial. Fronts were 10-16.5 from factory. My wider tire set up will work perfectly on that. You just need to get Wayne ( i'm assuming you worked with Wayne Hendrichs) to look up the rims you need. He probably has the invoice from mine yet somewhere. You will need to supply him the tires though. 👍
@@Longslyde1 that is so much appreciated!
My sales guy is Dan. But I can inquire as to Wayne, and try to get this figured out.
Thanks again!
@cd majesty tell Wayne it's Troy's tractor. The one that trades his stuff in cleaner than he got it. Lol! He'll chuckle on that...he can call me if there's any questions on what we did. No problem there...
Can the tire/rim upgrade be done to an L4760? Does the L6060 have the same front axle?
I believe all 60 series have the same ratio. You could verify by checking front and rear tire sizes stock between the L6060 and your model. If they match up between the models, the gear ratio is the same and this change can be done in the same way. 👍
@@Longslyde1 Yes I'm sure same ratios, just wondering if the MX rim will mount to my axle. I believe it would as I think 4760,5060,5460 and 6060 share front axles (they can all use the larger LA1055 loader, while the 4060 cannot). Thanks and nice tractor 😎
@@brandane190 oh yes, I see. I think the rims are the same also. Your dealer can look up the stock rims between your model and a L6060 to be certain. If they match, the MX rim will fit perfect. 👍
What is the size of this 4in1 bucket?
72"
Would you happen to have the part number for the rims
Thanks
Sorry I don't have them. Have the dealer look up front wheels for an MX6000 and you'll get the right ones. 👍
@@Longslyde1 Thanks
The wheels you want are 16.5 x 9.75. I inquired @ dealer and was told there are four MX rim choices.
@First Choice Mechanical Most 12-16.5 tires are 32.70" - 33" height, these are 31.5", do you're own research to verify it. Different brands of tires will have different rolling circumference. Some may be close with shallow tread. Not looking to flame anyone but I want to make sure people realize they are different heights and will throw the ratio off. 12-16.5 tires on an L series will bind the 4wd a bit with most brands of tires. Although it may not cause damage, it isn't the best scenario on the L series. It will "work", but to each their own.... research your tires and use the calculator to make sure you're within 5% lead/lag and you will be within the guidelines. Here's the calculator, and the Mechanical ratio is 1.5640 for the grand L's. www.titan-intl.com/resources/Lead-Lag-Calculator
@First Choice Mechanical No problem bud! Thanks for the reply!
great vid
Thanks!
Why is the kubota third fuction so dumb compared to all others? It’s not that complicating but kubota still hasn’t figured it out
Nor sure what you mean? Third function works fine. This is the spill control valve. Separate from the third function, and frankly I wouldn't do the spill valve option again. Was hoping it was more like auto leveling which it is not...
Waste of money..... The way I look at it with the amateurs once they drop enough on the Hood they'll learn
That's exactly what I think too. Was hoping this acted more like an auto leveling loader. It is not... save the money unless you have a bunch of newbies running your loader...lol.
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