Dynamic Mic vs Condenser Mic for Recording Vocals I Shure SM58 vs Neumann U87
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- Dynamic Mic vs Condenser Mic I Shure SM58 vs Neumann U87
Is it OK to use Shure SM58 for Recording Vocals? Shure SM58 vs Neumann U87
Is it ok to use a dynamic mic like this Shure SM58 for recording vocals?
Everybody use SM58 at anywhere. But this workhorse can be the one for recording vocals instead of a condenser mic like U87.
This time, I’m going to compare a dynamic mic, this SM58 to a condenser mic U87.
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The SM58 was originally designed as a studio mic, but when it did not sell that well, they relegated it to live use and sold like pancakes.
That is a cool and good fact to know thanks 😮
Very nice comparison. The SM58 is a true workhorse. I do believe, however that both mics would become defective if I were to sing through them. That would be my excuse.
in the end good vocalist is what really matters
He's really good imo
no, if you have bad engineering/setup it'll sound bad
Uve missed the point here
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The SM is SM58 literally stands for Studio Microphone. It was meant to be used in a studio environment.
Bravo! There is so much hype on condensor mics that leads to confusion. I thought I did all my research and studies etc and kept buying condensors because Dyamics were labeled as good for live performances.
However, you have to factor in where you are recording, why you are recording, and how good a vocalist you are. In fact, this is more key than anything else. Yet it gets less attention in reviews.
In my case, in an untreated sound room like my bedroom and with an amateur voice and intention of striving to improve with practice really meant a Dynamic mic is the way to go.
I need a mic for a bit of spoken word and some singing. I just wanted to sound decent on home recorded demos etc.
A condensor turned out too be too sensitive and overpriced for this. Its like deciding to drive a super car without enough experience. Of course one will end up driving badly.
Not enough mic reviews talk about this. Untreated room means do not use a condensor. Especially in the home environment.
No way can a youtube video ever give a chance for the U87 to excel and the guy's vocals will sound much the same with almost any half decent mike. The SM58 is indeed a 'half decent' mic and it shows when given half a chance.
SM58 or SM57 though?
@@pasoundman no its an absolutely decent mic, more than enough for anything, as for your argument; TH-cam videos are where people listen to music.
the price is so it acts like a drug. thats all there is to it.
@@MrFree-vj8qj The SM58 is a 52 year old ABORTION of a decent mike that's so 'low tech' that Shure now make kit in Mexico. There's simply so much better for far less. It's acceptable (but not great) for live sound use but has NO PLACE in video production.
Plenty of professional recording artists record vocals using dynamic mics but generally dynamic mics are favored and really only mic used for live applications. You're exactly right, its not that a dynamic microphone will not work for studio recording
Yow dude. This is great content. No BS, concise, and straight to the point. Dont stop man
Great video! It's interesting how versatile the SM58 really is. I have used it on snare drums, electric guitar amps, vocals, and even a bass guitar cabinet. They're extremely useful and everyone should have at least 1 in their arsenal.
That's right! I use this like universal plug and play!
I always had the best vocal recordings with the SM58 always wondered thought I was the only one glad to know I'm not alone.
I feel the same and started to think my hearing might be too bad to hear how good it should be with a more expansive mic
So awesome, needed a quick fix , set up. Knew it would take some gain staging and this is a great help! Thank You bro
I really appreciate this comparison Daniel! I've been thinking about buying a LDC mic since I'm about to start recording vocals, but realized I should just use my SM58 since my small bedroom has bad acoustics. Plus, more time focusing on performance than a little bit extra high-end tone. Your video makes me feel better about my decision. A LDC (I'm eyeing a Mojave 201fet), can come later.
Glad to discover your channel, hope you start making videos again, even if occasionally. Cheers!
Good video! I’m always impressed at how well the SM58 performs compared to much more expensive mics
I use an SM58 for recording my vocals because it doesn’t feel or sound natural if I’m not moving around and changing positions. I do “metal/harsh vocals/screaming”, so depending on what I’m doing I may want to stand, hunch over, or w.e. If I stand still facing one direction the entire time I cant get into it. My buddy who does cleans is the opposite and uses his own mic as well (sorry, I don’t remember what kind).
damn right, thats what singing is all about. you can only get certain tones and emotions by moving the body
i've found that dynamic mics are very useful to home recording. They have a very low background noise and if you set the gain properly you can sing almost with your lips on the grid and it will compress the signal itself...Did anyone noticed the same thing?
Great video. A lot of myths busted there! Love to see the same test but with the eq adjusted to knock out the SM58 presence lift.
Are we comparing dynamic & condenser mics here❓ I like the Shure SM58.
Awesome review Daniel! thank you!
thanks bro .. I was thinking how to buy a new expensive mic ..now i know that my old dirt sm58 will do the job !
mariah carey said she recorded her demo tape with a cheap drum microphone, and that it sounded better than her debut album because of the sounds that the mic caught.
OMG another lamb!
But, now that you've mentioned it, I'm wondering what she used. I heard she liked the airy sound of it, might look into it.
Awesomeness! Great review! Totally shocked how close to sound quality of an sm58 is to a u87😲!
I'm blown away by how close they are. I randomly searched for this comparison because I happened to hear them close together by accident, and I thought they have a very similar character in certain conditions. This sort of confirms it? Also, the way you are hold the u87 makes me so nervous, please put it down carefully lol.
Sm58 sounds more live
Yes, SM58 has more 2-4kHz so it sounds forward. But it can be too harsh.
@@HongDaniel Nope, its 'presence peak' is more in the region of 5-10 kHz. Agreed that it sounds 'harsh'. I use desk EQ to mould the sound rather than importing fixed EQ from a microphone.
@@HongDaniel I think you just sang a bit louder tbh, its all eq'd and compressed anyway
@@HongDaniel the 58 is not harsh, it's warm. Only if you get too close.
Great review bro!
thanks for this awesome review, could you do a Preamp comparison (as the other relevant item in the audio signal cuhain)?? thanks
Very well done and informative!
you the best dude, looking forward to working with you in the future, PECEE
Thank you so much. As a primarily rock & metal vocalist just recording at home in an untreated room, I think I will NOT waste my money on a large diaphragm condenser mic and just buy a decent interface to record the EV 767 dynamic microphone I already own. If the Shure SM58 sounds this good, I already know my EV 767 will sound light years beyond this plus do an even better job of rejecting the negative attributes of my untreated recording environment.
Bravo, nice voice. You've just proved that the microphone doesn't matter at all, as long as it's decent. Your voice sounded nice on both.
When you can get 32 SM58s for one U87, does that mean you can record a choir? ;)
Lmao true
I want to know why not. What happens if one does. Sorry for being a noob but i wanna learn please.
Blimey, you plan to close mike multitrack a choir ? What happened to the crossed pair ?
Ya but 32 cables will cost you
Great 👍🏾 video I’ll be grabbing one to do vocal and drum samples with. Keep doing you thing my friend
This helped a lot thank you!!!
Thanks alot for the comparison 🙏✨💖
Thank you for the video, very informative.
Dude the comparison it’s cool and all, but your singing dude... your fucking singing! It moved me :) your voice is so beautiful
thank you for this! i've been looking for a mic i can do anything with and someone recommended the sm58. i was a little unsure of the performance because of the low pricepoint but im sold lolol.
trying to decide between the shure sm58, shure sm57 and at2020 so ty for this!
The shure sm58 is an amazing mic , Great video , thanks for posting
Excellent video and I appreciate the comparison with actual singing 👍
So many videos have the vocalist just shouting/bellowing into the mic with no dynamics. This video really lets you hear the details.
nice video, you've given me a lot to think about. thanks.
amazing review bro
Thank you very much. Greetings from Germany :)
Sounds amazing! What's your chain like for the sm58?
Excellent video (and music) !
Great Video!!! Can I ask you which mic pream would you take for SM58?
Good comparison... the Shure sounds amazing IMO!
Much better than expected.
Nice tutorial.👍 pls what is the font you used for the comparison
Bros voice is 💫 beautiful 💫 thanks for doing this review!
Thank you. You gave me idea to use dynamic mic far from vocals.
I would also notch down the SM58 to get that slight nasal tone out. Great video.
really good content you deserve it all
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good comparisson . shows the actual diffrence is in use purpuse not so much in quality .
공사장에서 녹음해도 컨덴서 마이크를 쓰는 게 낫다는 말이 있지만, 이 영상 보니 확실히 다이내믹마이크도 레코딩으로 쓸 수 있는 장르와 상황이 분명히 있다는 걸 알겠네요. Sm58 구매해야겠어요. ㅎㅎ 오래 전 올리신 영상이지만 뒤늦게 감사 드립니다~
Can you do a comparison between the Sm58 and Sennheiser e840? Or comment which is better at a flat setting.
i have them both for years
Actually heard more detail in the high end with the SM58 but sounded slightly more rough than the U87 which seems to roll off the frequencies at a smoother rate. U87 if you just want something that sounds good out of the box with minimal editing. SM58 if you want a more neutral sound and want to work it in post. For the price, no question, SM58 all the way.
Hi bro thanks for your recomendations, can you tell me witch preamp you recomand ? your link doesn't work anymore ... thanks
I used to wonder if vocals could ever sound weird on a U87.... Its just the intonation that's too sharp for me....I guess i like lower register vocals. this drove me up the wall.
I have a shure beta58a. What do you recommend I should do to it when I record to make it sound more professional and not flat?
Thanks man.
Great voice my g 💪🏽👌
Thanks 👍👍
that's cool and btw you have a very nice voice!
좋은 팁 감사합니다
Excellent thanks
Best comparison vid ever...
A good comparision also would be the sm58 vs a cheaper condenser like the neewer 800
This one is pretty close: th-cam.com/video/-5C5Hvaffsg/w-d-xo.html
So...the problem is my Voice 😭😭😭
Great vocals
Good job.
What happens if you accidentally turn on phantom power for SM58? (i have a focusrite 2i2 that doesnt individually turn on phantom power for the inputs).
Nice video. But just a suggestion. Flip back and forth more often for comparison. Too long on one mic is not great for hearing the difference. Again, it was helpful. I think I'll just keep my Beta 58A for home recording for a while.
Thanks so much Daniel!
hmm if this is a streaigt condenser vs dynamc comariosn, shuld you not pick both mics from the seam amnufacturer to avoid the problem with different manufacturers doing things differently, or am I thinking of this in the wrong way, is this more a shure vs Neumann than a condeser vs dynamic comarison
Here's a challenge: Can you make a video in which you make a SM58 sound like a Neumann? for voice overing & voice overs? Thanks a bunch!
no sound can be exactly replicated, they sound already very similar, and no sound is "better"
what the dude above me said, not even two u87s will sound the same. Two u87s will definitely have a similar flavor tho that most people who own one can tell apart from other mics. I have a u87 and I can tell when someone else is using one as long as it hasn't been mixed yet.
Awesome video! i needed a lot, im new in the field of music production and i wanted to buy a mic to record my singing. After seeing a lot of mics on my price range, the one that i like the most was the shure beta 58, which is a dynamic mic, so i was no sure about it bcs of the same myth about condenser mics for studios... But since i dont have the sound treatments in my room, i think a condenser mic it might be not the best idea.. should i go then for a beta 58 from shure? i would really like to know your opinion :), and also thanks for making this video!
58 is great just do a great performance and look up mic placement on TH-cam and mixing vocals for best sound
MeadowBrook100 thanks!🙇🏻♀️👌🏼
How much would a decent preamp for sm58 cost?
Didnt know what you were singing but sounded pretty good.
I bought an SM58 for a reason brother!
컨덴서용 마이크 스탠드로 어떤 브랜드 어떤제품 넘버 사는게 좋을가요? 지금은 k&m 21090 쓰는데 좀 부족한더 같습니다
I didnt understand a word you said . But i love it
U need to change the settings on ur noise gate!! Other than that great vid!!
Which preamp and converter did you use? I love how the U87ai sounded on your voice. It usually sounds brighter and cheaper in the top end, yours seems to sound closer to an original U87!
The link in the description doesn’t work
great comparisson
비교 감사합니다!
I love this guy
I like the way the 58 had been the same price since the 70s as far as I remember.
i use sm58 with uad apollo for base bamboo flute recording. Do you think i can upgrade to a better mic pre to get most out of my sm58? I am an online session musician.
Thank you, but what do you mean with a "decent mic pream". I have a Behringer xenyx1202FX, is it decent enough?
it means anything thats not from Wish
Do you think a windscreen is also better for singing??
No clue what you were sing but dude it sounded fantastic on both mics in my opinion
Great video
This Video Proves it pays to have a Great Preamp. 10734 Makes the Sm58 sound better than the U87. Now hide a SM58 Element in the Body of a U87 and do a blind test to see if any one will notice.
I like the sm58 more
How is it tht the 58 sounds louder?
Amazing comparison
Thx !
nice voice man
hmm it's possible to mix the vocals from the Sm58 to get a more elegant (less rock sound)? I would like the vocals to blend in the mix and not stand out as much
Re recorded it ehile holding your pinky up all fancy .... elegance
Excellent
A sm58 is solid for rock vocals
But if you can sing well... I'd stick with a condenser mic.
sm58 is a little edgier with little room sound but the u87 gives more detailed breath and more room sound