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Sony NEX-VG20 Hands-On with Sample Footage
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2011
- The Camera Store's Chris Niccolls attempts to kill two birds with one stone by spending a day with his family and checking out the new Sony VG20. See if Chris can juggle these two demanding tasks.
Special Thanks to Megan Niccolls
Shot and Edited by Jordan Drake
Shot on the Panasonic AF100
"You're ignoring us!"
"I love you too, Honey!"
That is priceless xD
@AshtonJ704 If you read the description for this video, and all our recent videos, you will see that I always list the camera I shoot with at the bottom of the description.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
The ending stutters due to framerate issues. After shooting briefly in 60P, I forgot to switch back to 24P, hence the jerkiness.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
I finally found a VG20 with lens and wow. This thing rocks. The quality for the price you can get these for is unreal. Thanks for the video and answering my questions on the VG20
If you are familiar with DSLR videography, I think the VG20 is a fantastic choice. It also functions in auto mode better than all the large chip camcorders, so you can grow into it.
"You're ignoring us."
"I love you too, honey."
Hilarious!
The 60i mode on the VG10 and VG20 is actually 30P capture. No you have 30P capture with the VG10, and 24P, 30P, and 60P capture with the VG20.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@fatcat752 We used a Rode Lavalier mic, transmitted with a Sennheiser G3 transmitter. For audio of Meagan, I had a Rode NTG-2 shotgun mic, with a WS-6 Deadcat.
Jordan @ The Camera Store
Chris and Jordan sure have come a long way since then!
@maikeltje89 The Panasonic AF100. We only had one VG20 at the time of shooting.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@videohog222 As mentioned in the video, it is only when using phase detect auto focus that aperture is locked. If you plan to use Alpha lenses in manual focus mode, why buy the expensive LA-EA2 adaptor?
Jordan @ The Camera Store
@white8ass8kika Gain is the video term for boosting the sensitivity of the sensor. In a digital stills camera, this function would be referred to as ISO.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Great video. thank you for making it interesting while still managing to give all that useful information. I look forward to future videos!
@nazhif1 As mentioned in the video, the VG20 adds 24P and 60P framerates, a 16MP sensor that is better in low light, manual audio control, a touch screen, focus expansion, and the new AVCHD 2.0 Codec.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
"Man reviews Sony NEX-VG20 while his family falls apart"
@slow758 Depends on your priority. The NEX-7 is a much better still camera, but it lacks a headphone jack, audio control, and the much nicer video handling of the VG20.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
The North American VG20 shoots at 24P, 30P, and 60P. The PAL version shoots at 24P, 25P and 50P.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Zeiss 85mm 1.4, Zeiss 24mm F2, and Sony 18-200.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@fugzed That's true about the manual button, but it's still clunky. I prefer the way it was set up on the VG10, with all exposure controls in the same place. As far as the second record button, I found it extremely difficult to press from the top handle.
As mentioned in the video, the F3.5 limitation is only in effect when using autofocus with the LA-EA2 adaptor.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@angelisone There is currently no tethering support for the VG20.
nice review and was fun to watch!
Having done a video on the VG10 and 20, we're giving a pass on the VG30. The kit lens is much improved and I like having the new shoe with an XLR option. Image quality looked the same as the VG20 to my eyes, I just wish they would add some image controls to the VG line.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Amazing review. Regardless of the technical details, I like your personality :)
It shoots both RAW and JPEG.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@TommyNerdlands Both!
Chris, great video! If this is really you wife and kids you all did a really great job. Quick question. What microphone were you using to shoot this video? I am doing real estate videos and this is just what I am looking for.
The 18-200 is a pretty good super zoom, but the NEX 24 & 50mm lenses are some of the nicer primes out there. If you want a few primes at a good price, grab a Nikon mount adaptor and find some old manual focus AI lenses. That's what I do when using NEX camcorders.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Thank you! I've been doing research and I think I'm gonna pick up the VG20. I don't really need the power zoom or option for on board XLR. I prefer only to use fast primes and if I need XLR's I would pick up a H4n or something of the sorts. Hopefully the VG40 steps up the game a bit.
@jamm521 If you have a chance to use the camera, try holding the camera on the top handle with one hand, and press the record button. At worst it's impossible, at best, it's uncomfortable.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@estrellasdeljaripeo1 For video, definitely the VG20. It has a much better mic, more comfortable form factor, and support for E mount lenses, which will let you auto focus and select any aperture.
For stills, the A77 is a much better camera.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@LunaG Yes, but you will need an EOS-NEX adaptor with electronic aperture control.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
Great review! Yes, at that price range I would expect the camera to have more dedicated physical controls, especially the audio controls.
I like the effort this guy puts in his videos, like, you could almost say it's scripted.
@mp4podcastDOTcom Those are great adaptors, but if you want the Phase-Detect autofocus, you need the Sony LA-EA2.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
@Ipad2Adventures I love the form factor, and the images look lovely. It does seem a little pricey, especially without 1080/60P for overcranking. I'll be interested to see a production unit.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
So crazy to think this video is from 2011 :\ Around the time I got my VG20 and, well, I've used it ever since. Still using it for TH-cam + corporate stuff alongside an A6300 :D In terms of being versatile, it's awesome comparing this with MKBHD and the footage he got at the time, and just how different your end results are. I wish I got to use my camera in the snow though :P
Awesome video. Just a question: is there a lot of hand noise with the onboard microphone? Or would getting a Rode external be any better, or the same?
Finally! You guys sure do take your time between vids!
Good (funny) review too. Footage of the VG20 looks fine. The camera does have some shortcomings but overall (if I was in the market for a vidcam of in the VG20's range) I would pick one up. I'm also a long time Sony handycam user so I might be a little biased there. :D
I love shooting videoes and pictures, and I want to start shooting some real HD videoes. Is this camera very good, or do you recommend another?
-Muffin
"You're ignoring us!"
"That's great honey."
"We're leaving!"
"Yeah okay!"
Car drives off...
That was a great review, and hilarious
"Yeah, that's great hunny" LOL.
"that sounds nice, buy whatever you want, honey!" laught my ass of in this scene! :D
HA! I just saw the part where you were like, "She'll be fine, she'll be fine."
This was hilarious. Chris's wife must have a damn good sense of humor
Yeah... that extra rec button is for underhanded use. I've seen that criticism twice in a row now. It's a perfect spot under your thumb when shooting uunderhand
Your wife was so cool for going along with this!
@toms900 Panasonic AF100. My favourite.
Jordan @ The Camera Store TV
same question; i plan to film action sports (kitesurf) just wondering which one was best; my search is going for the xa 10...
There's nothing quite like some quality family time.
I think the start stop button on the handle is for when it's on a tripod, my friend has an fs100 with the detachable handle tilted up and the record button ends up just like that secondary one on the vg20.
Also I think this camera is pretty neat price/spec wise and I'll probably get one.
From what I heard and seen the aperture only locks on alpha lenses when using phase detect auto focus. so you actually can use the awesomely wide open apertures of the alpha glass.
Maybe an annotation or a correction in the description.
would have been nice a test with the stock lens.. as many of us using this cam cant afford expensive lenses
Cameras are cool but family is better. lol great video!
it's funny how his wife tries to talk to him, but he is like "cool honey" and keeps talking about the camera
Thanks man for this video its great, I just recieved my new NEX VG20 yesterday And i had shooting inside the car its amazing stabelizer camer and Great fotage WB color.
Great video and very entertaining!
there's adapters you can buy that attach to the bottom of the camera and allow you to connect a xlr mic to the 3.5mm slot
The MANUAL button can be set as a dedicated gain button. It'll be the same way how the iris and shutter are controlled. And that top record button is for the handle held application, and a dedicated record button placed right for the thumb.
Curious to know tho, you mentioned you can't change the aperture off from F3.5. This only applies to using alpha lenses?
I'd like to see an image stabilizer built in eventually, Great vid told me what I wanted to know, currently I have 2 Canon HF-G10's and and a Canon T3i from this I've decided not to change for the simple reason that I wouldn't gain much in my case.
you are the best western reviewers!
That rolling shutter, though...
"Your ignoring us"
"Love you too honey"
"we are leaving"
"That's great, you can buy whatever you want honey"
What the fuck ?! LOL
What were the settings set on the camera and the lens used at 2:47 ? I am really interested in this camera and i'm very please by the quality if shows off in this video. Thanks for the video !
Wife: Your ignoring us
Ed: I love you to honey
LMAAO
I really wanted a nice soft movielike look with great lowlight, and to be, if you had to choose for a decently priced camera that really gave you that cinematic look which would you choose? (no DSLR though. rolling shutter makes it hard to track)
thanks
@TheCameraStoreTV thanks
Are you guys saying that the translucent, mirrorless lens 'filters' out quality? As in, barring a notable amount of light, ergo compromising picture accuracy?
How do you think the video quality compares to the other DSLRs like the 5d (or the m4/3 GH2 hacked)? Sharpness? Low light sensitivity? Latitude in bright light?
For non-narrative work is the VG20 a lot easier to use than DSLR (or GH2)? I'm thinking here of changing iso/gain, aperature, WB while in the field filming.
How'd you like it compared to the AF100 (both in terms of quality and ease of use for more run and gun applications)? Or can they be compared?
Thanks!
LMBO!!! "You're ignoring us." "I love you too honey." Classic!!! :D
Actually, the VG20 does true 60i and not 30p. A little hint though. You can get 30p on the VG20 by setting the shutter to 1/50th of a second (or lower) while in 60i. The camera is forced into shooting 2 identical fields to make one progressive frame in these cases. The VG10 was true 30p which was great, but the VG20 has a superior image sensor.
awww such a good father he plays with his kids and wife awww
@TheCameraStoreTV JORDAN!! Are the additional few hundred bucks worth it if I'm going to choose the VG20 over the VG10? I really don't mind the option to choose to shoot in RAW, since I just need something to shoot VIDEOS with. I think the only reason why I would buy the VG20 over the VG10 is that it can shoot 24p, whereas the VG10 can only shoot 30p (correct me if I'm wrong). The question is: IS IT WORTH BUYING OVER THE VG10? The few hundred bucks is very crucial. Reply please! :)
I really want this camera, the vg20. What lens was on it? Does it come with it when purchased or did you guys just throw it on there, its a beauty ! PLEASE RESPOND =] cheers
Does the NEX adapter allow for flipping down the translucent mirror? I.E So you could add a follow focus ring (or teach myself to do it by hand) while still having that amazing ISO capability?
I'd personally would say the sony because it has a mount so you can get an adapter and put some top glass behind the larger sensor that that of the canon
I have a question concerning the photography. What kind of flash do you recommend for this camera? I have a Polaroid PL-144AZ flash which I use for my NEX-7 camera. Would it work for the VG-20?? That's the only question I have so I can buy this camera! Thanks in advance:)
@TheCameraStoreTV True but for video I'm more then willing to give up auto focus and get better aperture control.
The Sony aperture has a mirror there so there is half a stop of light also.
Love the show keep up the good work guys:)
yeah. Great review. Fabulous humour. Top class.
Great review. the jerkiness ub the end show fight, filmed with the vg20, is it because of the 28mbps coding? .
@gatewayproductions97 Sony Zeiss 85mm F1.4.
Hey Guys Shoutout from Jamaica! What lens didbu have on the AG-AF100? Looks very sharp!
WIFE: Look at this!
ED: That's great honey..
They are so sweet, aren't they?
I have the SONY VG-10 and use it for cinematography. It is VERY easy to cut it in post to 24p. I was ticked when SONY after a short time introduced the VG-20(The VG-10 should have had 24p). All and all I've had no problems with my VG-10 and rather shoot off it then a standard DSLR. Had to many people when shooting a film off the Canon 5 ask what we were doing, and reply was shooting a movie, their reply was always well I have one of those cameras guess I can shoot a movie then.
Judging by the small video sample you provided, I did not see any benefits compared to a regular 1/3-inch or 1/4-inch consumer camera. DOF? Not that shallow. Resolution? Average. Skew and jello? Less than on the 5D/7D, but more than on a small-chip camcorder. Would like to see a comparison with the GH2.
Good job on the video, but I did this with my wife once. NEVER again! She hated me for it later. Keep up the good work. Turbo Greg.
good video...i have a question ..what is better this camera or sony a77
I've seen other adapters for Sony Alfa that might be better. There is a company called novoflex and another company called Bower that built the aperture rings into the adapter.
Also Philip Bloom just had a write up about EOS lens on the Sony Alfa and Panasonic Micro 4/3 with a new electronic adapter.
7:35 please which is the little microphone you got attached on your jacket.. how can I get one? thanks, please reply
The 'baby' is big enough to walk lol..
Hi.. just wanna ask if this camcoder is good for cinematography or for short film??? and how much is the price?? Thank You so much
good review!
"that sounds nice. buy whatever you want, baby" haha
Hi...i would like to know if this camera is better than the HDR-FX1000..Thanks
Nice review. Very informative. Thank you!
How does the VG 20 and 30 compare the the Sony Alpha DSLR line. A77, A99, etc...
thanks!
doese this camera shoot 30p. please .. I bought the vg10 and returned it cuz shoot only 24p. I have sonyax2000 and shoot 24,30,60. .....i wanna know before i but it ... thank u..
I don't like using cameras that are intended for still photography. The VG-10 looks like a pro end camera and is easy to handle. When I was shooting scenes for a short with it I got people coming up to me and actually hiring me for gigs.
Will this camera work with adobe premiere cs5? Idk if AVCHD 2.0 is very different from normal AVCHD.
I was so excited for this camera, and then...jello-vision.
What camera did you guys shoot the review bits with?