I bought a Vevor about 8 months ago and have cleaned 100s of lps. Get the machine with mechanical temp and cleaning knobs. Put a towel beneath it to reduce noise. I preclean each lp with groovewasher g2 and make sure to pay attention to the lead in groove, they seem to crackle a lot. I clean 2 lps at a time at 85 degrees for 10 minutes, with a cheap rheostat to slow the rotation. I use groovewasher G Sonic fluid in the bath. I have an old NittyGritty vacuum machine running about 3 to 4 revolutions a side to dry, then a few minutes on the drying rack. While this is going on I gently clean the covers. Then new inner and outer sleeves and done. Nothing has given me results like this. Many of my lps sound like new. Every lp gets a cleaning before they hit my turntable. Clean once and should be good for years. Highly recommended. Been collecting lps since mid 70s.
Cheers brother I have the same machine but I put my temperature higher. And I use Tergikleen for my cleaning solution. When they're done being cleaned I rinsed them off with distilled water using a pump sprayer over the sink careful not to leave cleaning film on record. and they sound amazing afterwards,👍🏻 good luck and have fun with your new cleaner
Like recordings themselves, the entire thing is based on the source material. If a record is recorded well, not scratched or damaged to start with but just "dirty" is when you get best results. Simply put these do one thing, they remove and loosen up microscopic dirt and dust. They clean deep into the grooves but cant repair records you get at the thrift store that have been cleaned with an old tube sock for 30 years and played on a mattel show and tell. A drop or two of dish soap, a drop or two of wetting agent and a few drops of alcohol, and about a ten minute run through in warm water will get the record as clean as it can get, and in some cases, cleaner than it has ever been. Even new records can benefit from this type of washing. Remembering it doesnt remove oil based finger marks, scratches or scuffs is vital for your own sanity. Thrift store records, dirty but not physically damaged, are now revived as good as they can be. Thats it. They arent improved, but now worth buying. Just my opinion. TIP: If you run them the way its shown in multiple records on the spindle, and the result isnt to your liking, run them alone. Best results when a single platter is cleaned at a time for 5 or ten minutes.
I have this unit, here’s my advice. First, the temp numbers need to match or should match before you start, otherwise the temp isn’t high enough. Second, I do three records at a time leaving more space between, the ultrasonic waves are much more effective this way. Try these records you cleaned in the video again leaving space between, I bet you’ll get even better results, cheers!
Some good extra info in there, about scratches not necessarily damaging *older pressings* where the vinyl is thicker, from say 1960s...& quadrophonic recordings highlighting instruments obscured in other mixes even when played stereo, & even using alternate takes. Worth knowing.
I got one a few months ago. It’s kind of labor intensive but makes a huge difference to old used records. I now no longer fear the discount used record bin. 😊If no visible scratches, they sound great after an ultrasonic cleaning.
Thanks for this review. I have all of those same albums, and especially like the Donald Fagen LP - one of my favs. I will probably get one of these, but I wonder how much the quality improves from just a couple passes with a manual Dishwasher D4 cleaning first? I have also seen a lot of people slowing down the motor with a lower voltage power supply or potentiometer, which reportedly helps. Thanks again. Nicely done.
Why don't you use the slotted bracket to raise the cleaning spindle up and out of the water so that you can put the records and take them off easier. That's why it's there. After cleaning, you can raise the record stack up and let the records drip and dry as they turn.
Iggy here, veteran collector since the 50's, and I just purchased the Vevor IPS-30A Digital UltraS Cleaner 'n' cleaned my first batch of five LPs - impressive, fer surely! I swab each LP side with a cotton ball saturated with an 99.9% IPA (round 'n' round she goes) prior to the bath, as it's been warned not to add alcohol to the solution due to flashpoint concerns. I prefer NOT to blow myself to smithereens (great band, BTW) before I have the chance to listen to the albums I just discovered at a local Thrift! After this tiny bunch, I have 'bout 2500 LPs to go, so I'll be quite busy for some ungodly length of time, but waaaaay quicker than my previous hand wash method - time will tell! Also, I do rinse the records post cleaning (I'm anal 'bout my vinyl!). To reiterate what other authors have posted here... it only makes sense to replace the original sleeves (if any) with a good poly inner sleeve, to preserve 'n' enhance all your TLC. While I'm not a reseller, I hold on to the original sleeves regardless. Like astolatpere11, I too clean 'n' repair the cover then protect that with a quality outer poly sleeve. This will reduce visible future ring wear 'n' eliminate minor abrasions caused by the sliding of the album in 'n' out against adjacent albums on the shelf. Caveat: In my case, the locknut that locks down the spindle to the motor arm can vibrate loose regardless of tightness causing the record(s), spindle 'n' all to fall into the bath. I have read about this problem in other post. Vevor needs to come up with an alternative! I'll need to modify the way the spindle couples to the motor arm. This minor annoyance aside, this machine is well worth the coin, and I consider this baby to be an essential addition to any music lover's arsenal of record care products.
I rigged one up myself, and results on the lead in grooves are better than yours. I use 15 drops Tergitol, 12ml Isopropy alcohol, spin at 1 rpm, at 35 degrees for 15 minutes, doing 5 at once. Maybe one or more of those things makes a difference? Machinery etc doesn't need a half inch or more gap for cavitation to occur, but anecdote has it that 8 is too many for LPs. I've been happy with 5.
I've been cleaning records ultrasonically for nearly 10 years. I've a lot of experience with a setup exactly like what's being reviewed here and with a Humminguru. Before I got into it, I researched for many, many hours. I've also reviewed gear professionally. I'm not some hump sitting in his dead mother's basement. I don't have a beef with Brian. He seems like a solid dude and all of the mistakes he made here are normal noob moves, but the issue is that you can't properly review something if you use it wrong. Here are the things done incorrectly in this video: -- Buying and cleaning records that are obviously damaged is not how you assess the effectiveness of an US machine. These things don't repair scratches. All they do is get rid of dirt that's buried or stuck in the grooves. They get rid of a lot of the ticks and pops that plague brand new vinyl and can really quiet down older records that have never been cleaned, which is most of them. -- As others have pointed out, the Vevor spacers are far too thin. The bubbles don't need a lot of room to be effective but they do need room. I have a Vinyl Stack for spinning and spacing and its label pucks put an inch between three records. Works beautifully. -- 30 minutes is a massive waste of time of time and energy. Five minutes for most records, 10 minutes for records with a lot of years, 15 minutes for records that obviously smell of smoke or dampness. Nicotine residue and spores are both invisible and tough to get out. I have a copy of Randy Newman's "Sail Away" that looked pristine after wet cleaning on a Nitty Gritty, but was still way too noisy. The jacket smelled faintly of mildew. After one spin through the US, 90-percent of the noise was gone. At the time, I had just gotten my ultrasonic setup so I had the foresight to record before and after clips, if anyone wants to hear them. -- Adding solutions to the distilled water is up to you. I've never noticed a huge difference between distilled water with a nice splash of lab-grade alcohol and various formulas, either homemade or purchased. The bubbles are doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting. Because I already had a couple of vacuum-based cleaners, I use one to dry my records as they come out of the US bath so I have no drying advice. It's awfully handy to have a vacuum option, though. I can deep clean, dry and resleeve three records in fewer than 10 minutes. That's quick work. Again, I'm not dissing Brian. It's just that every reviewer of the Vevor I've seen makes the same mistakes and the comment sections are filled with people who have zero experience with US machines tossing around bad and misinformed opinions.
@@JLeeeP honestly this is a fair and extremely helpful comment. I wish all critical comments could be as thoughtful as this. A few quick points. I definitely didn’t think the cleaning would get rid of any scratches or groove damage. I was just hoping these extra gone records would give a clear before and after; in hindsight I should have cleaned a brand new record like you mentioned. To sum it up, I was sent this machine and asked to review it within a short period of time. I would have preferred to have a much longer time using and getting used to the machine before I had to jump into a video giving my opinion. But that wasn’t the assignment, so I had to do my best. Hopefully my viewers understand that I’m not an expert (which I clearly stated) and they will form their own opinion on the machine based on further research. Again, I appreciate this comment and hope others will as well.
@@BrianBringelson Thanks for replying, Brian. I assume they're letting you keep it, and you're going to get a lot of good results the more you use it. I'm, still surprised at the difference it makes with new vinyl. One last suggestion: I bought a bunch of little round stickers and every time I ultrasonically clean a record, I put a sticker on the inner sleeve so I can keep track of my cleaned and uncleaned LPs. It has really helped my OCD hahaha
Thank you so much for your advice. I have been a collector for 40 years, but I am a novice when it comes to ultrasonic cleaning. Any advice on the temperature issue? I measure it with an external thermometer, and I usually work at around 27ºC
had one for ages,best thing ive bought ,i just add a dash of windex,one at a time and soak up the water of the record with soft tissue afterr cleaning the ddifferance is night and day,don waste money on anything else...
Hmm. May want to talk to Kirmuss about that thing. I think need to be pretty careful with settings etc. Kirmuss tuned his machine to not damage the records and also has the right type of setup. I think Fremer also reviewed this machine…. I think the ultrasonic frequency may be the issue. Don’t even sound like they cleaned at all.
From what I’ve read and my own personal experience the machine won’t damage your records as long as you use it correctly. And I do agree with you that some of the records in this video didn’t sound all that much better, but that’s due to the fact that 3 of the 4 were in really bad shape to begin with. That being said, I really feel like the machine got rid of a lot of surface noise. It really made Donald Fagen’s The Night Fly sound excellent. I wish I could play more than 4 seconds, you would hear just how nice it cleaned up. Thanks for your comment.
@@BrianBringelson cool. It may be ok…it’s like 1/10 the price of some of the other units. My experience is that Charles Kirmuss has done a lot of research to get the best frequency for the ultrasonics. This looks like a machine made for multiple purposes.
@@revelry1969 that I do agree with you on. It’s clearly one of their standard machines with modifications made to clean records. But it seems to be safe, granted I haven’t run any of my Beatles pressings through it yet…haha
@@krwd interesting. I’ll have to try the next wash with two and see how it goes. I wanted to try the max amount to see how it would perform. I’m quite happy with the results.
@@BrianBringelsonYeah, another reviewer strongly recommending doing 4 or less records at a time. He found it to be Much more effective. But I’m glad to see what it can do with the max
I've seen reviews of this type of cleaner and supposedly when you stack records that close together the ultrasonic action can't get to the inner surfaces. It would be interesting to clean those same ones manually after the Vevor since it kinda sucked.
@@claudedionne992 yes good tip. Honestly I didn’t have much time to get to know the machine before I had to make this video on a deadline. I’ve used it many times since and raise and lower the motor mount.
@@gerardoromano3436 it’s a delay in the audio and video sync. I recorded the audio directly to my iPhone while the video was shot on my camera. I then had to sync all of the clips up in my editing software.
I bought a Vevor about 8 months ago and have cleaned 100s of lps. Get the machine with mechanical temp and cleaning knobs. Put a towel beneath it to reduce noise. I preclean each lp with groovewasher g2 and make sure to pay attention to the lead in groove, they seem to crackle a lot. I clean 2 lps at a time at 85 degrees for 10 minutes, with a cheap rheostat to slow the rotation. I use groovewasher G Sonic fluid in the bath. I have an old NittyGritty vacuum machine running about 3 to 4 revolutions a side to dry, then a few minutes on the drying rack. While this is going on I gently clean the covers. Then new inner and outer sleeves and done. Nothing has given me results like this. Many of my lps sound like new. Every lp gets a cleaning before they hit my turntable. Clean once and should be good for years. Highly recommended. Been collecting lps since mid 70s.
Cheers brother I have the same machine but I put my temperature higher. And I use Tergikleen for my cleaning solution. When they're done being cleaned I rinsed them off with distilled water using a pump sprayer over the sink careful not to leave cleaning film on record. and they sound amazing afterwards,👍🏻 good luck and have fun with your new cleaner
Like recordings themselves, the entire thing is based on the source material. If a record is recorded well, not scratched or damaged to start with but just "dirty" is when you get best results. Simply put these do one thing, they remove and loosen up microscopic dirt and dust. They clean deep into the grooves but cant repair records you get at the thrift store that have been cleaned with an old tube sock for 30 years and played on a mattel show and tell. A drop or two of dish soap, a drop or two of wetting agent and a few drops of alcohol, and about a ten minute run through in warm water will get the record as clean as it can get, and in some cases, cleaner than it has ever been. Even new records can benefit from this type of washing. Remembering it doesnt remove oil based finger marks, scratches or scuffs is vital for your own sanity. Thrift store records, dirty but not physically damaged, are now revived as good as they can be. Thats it. They arent improved, but now worth buying. Just my opinion. TIP: If you run them the way its shown in multiple records on the spindle, and the result isnt to your liking, run them alone. Best results when a single platter is cleaned at a time for 5 or ten minutes.
I have this unit, here’s my advice. First, the temp numbers need to match or should match before you start, otherwise the temp isn’t high enough. Second, I do three records at a time leaving more space between, the ultrasonic waves are much more effective this way. Try these records you cleaned in the video again leaving space between, I bet you’ll get even better results, cheers!
Some good extra info in there, about scratches not necessarily damaging *older pressings* where the vinyl is thicker, from say 1960s...& quadrophonic recordings highlighting instruments obscured in other mixes even when played stereo, & even using alternate takes. Worth knowing.
They just dropped the price on Amazon to $179!! That’s it… I’m buying one 😂
I got one a few months ago. It’s kind of labor intensive but makes a huge difference to old used records. I now no longer fear the discount used record bin. 😊If no visible scratches, they sound great after an ultrasonic cleaning.
Thanks for this review. I have all of those same albums, and especially like the Donald Fagen LP - one of my favs. I will probably get one of these, but I wonder how much the quality improves from just a couple passes with a manual Dishwasher D4 cleaning first? I have also seen a lot of people slowing down the motor with a lower voltage power supply or potentiometer, which reportedly helps. Thanks again. Nicely done.
Why don't you use the slotted bracket to raise the cleaning spindle up and out of the water so that you can put the records and take them off easier. That's why it's there. After cleaning, you can raise the record stack up and let the records drip and dry as they turn.
Iggy here, veteran collector since the 50's, and I just purchased the Vevor IPS-30A Digital UltraS Cleaner 'n' cleaned my first batch of five LPs - impressive, fer surely!
I swab each LP side with a cotton ball saturated with an 99.9% IPA (round 'n' round she goes) prior to the bath, as it's been warned not to add alcohol to the solution due to flashpoint concerns. I prefer NOT to blow myself to smithereens (great band, BTW) before I have the chance to listen to the albums I just discovered at a local Thrift! After this tiny bunch, I have 'bout 2500 LPs to go, so I'll be quite busy for some ungodly length of time, but waaaaay quicker than my previous hand wash method - time will tell! Also, I do rinse the records post cleaning (I'm anal 'bout my vinyl!).
To reiterate what other authors have posted here... it only makes sense to replace the original sleeves (if any) with a good poly inner sleeve, to preserve 'n' enhance all your TLC. While I'm not a reseller, I hold on to the original sleeves regardless.
Like astolatpere11, I too clean 'n' repair the cover then protect that with a quality outer poly sleeve. This will reduce visible future ring wear 'n' eliminate minor abrasions caused by the sliding of the album in 'n' out against adjacent albums on the shelf. Caveat: In my case, the locknut that locks down the spindle to the motor arm can vibrate loose regardless of tightness causing the record(s), spindle 'n' all to fall into the bath. I have read about this problem in other post. Vevor needs to come up with an alternative! I'll need to modify the way the spindle couples to the motor arm. This minor annoyance aside, this machine is well worth the coin, and I consider this baby to be an essential addition to any music lover's arsenal of record care products.
I rigged one up myself, and results on the lead in grooves are better than yours. I use 15 drops Tergitol, 12ml Isopropy alcohol, spin at 1 rpm, at 35 degrees for 15 minutes, doing 5 at once. Maybe one or more of those things makes a difference? Machinery etc doesn't need a half inch or more gap for cavitation to occur, but anecdote has it that 8 is too many for LPs. I've been happy with 5.
I've been cleaning records ultrasonically for nearly 10 years. I've a lot of experience with a setup exactly like what's being reviewed here and with a Humminguru. Before I got into it, I researched for many, many hours. I've also reviewed gear professionally. I'm not some hump sitting in his dead mother's basement.
I don't have a beef with Brian. He seems like a solid dude and all of the mistakes he made here are normal noob moves, but the issue is that you can't properly review something if you use it wrong. Here are the things done incorrectly in this video:
-- Buying and cleaning records that are obviously damaged is not how you assess the effectiveness of an US machine. These things don't repair scratches. All they do is get rid of dirt that's buried or stuck in the grooves. They get rid of a lot of the ticks and pops that plague brand new vinyl and can really quiet down older records that have never been cleaned, which is most of them.
-- As others have pointed out, the Vevor spacers are far too thin. The bubbles don't need a lot of room to be effective but they do need room. I have a Vinyl Stack for spinning and spacing and its label pucks put an inch between three records. Works beautifully.
-- 30 minutes is a massive waste of time of time and energy. Five minutes for most records, 10 minutes for records with a lot of years, 15 minutes for records that obviously smell of smoke or dampness. Nicotine residue and spores are both invisible and tough to get out. I have a copy of Randy Newman's "Sail Away" that looked pristine after wet cleaning on a Nitty Gritty, but was still way too noisy. The jacket smelled faintly of mildew. After one spin through the US, 90-percent of the noise was gone. At the time, I had just gotten my ultrasonic setup so I had the foresight to record before and after clips, if anyone wants to hear them.
-- Adding solutions to the distilled water is up to you. I've never noticed a huge difference between distilled water with a nice splash of lab-grade alcohol and various formulas, either homemade or purchased. The bubbles are doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting.
Because I already had a couple of vacuum-based cleaners, I use one to dry my records as they come out of the US bath so I have no drying advice. It's awfully handy to have a vacuum option, though. I can deep clean, dry and resleeve three records in fewer than 10 minutes. That's quick work.
Again, I'm not dissing Brian. It's just that every reviewer of the Vevor I've seen makes the same mistakes and the comment sections are filled with people who have zero experience with US machines tossing around bad and misinformed opinions.
@@JLeeeP honestly this is a fair and extremely helpful comment. I wish all critical comments could be as thoughtful as this.
A few quick points. I definitely didn’t think the cleaning would get rid of any scratches or groove damage. I was just hoping these extra gone records would give a clear before and after; in hindsight I should have cleaned a brand new record like you mentioned.
To sum it up, I was sent this machine and asked to review it within a short period of time. I would have preferred to have a much longer time using and getting used to the machine before I had to jump into a video giving my opinion. But that wasn’t the assignment, so I had to do my best. Hopefully my viewers understand that I’m not an expert (which I clearly stated) and they will form their own opinion on the machine based on further research.
Again, I appreciate this comment and hope others will as well.
@@BrianBringelson Thanks for replying, Brian. I assume they're letting you keep it, and you're going to get a lot of good results the more you use it. I'm, still surprised at the difference it makes with new vinyl.
One last suggestion: I bought a bunch of little round stickers and every time I ultrasonically clean a record, I put a sticker on the inner sleeve so I can keep track of my cleaned and uncleaned LPs. It has really helped my OCD hahaha
Thank you so much for your advice. I have been a collector for 40 years, but I am a novice when it comes to ultrasonic cleaning. Any advice on the temperature issue? I measure it with an external thermometer, and I usually work at around 27ºC
had one for ages,best thing ive bought ,i just add a dash of windex,one at a time and soak up the water of the record with soft tissue afterr cleaning the ddifferance is night and day,don waste money on anything else...
Great review. I’m surprised that a machine of that quality is priced very reasonably.
Hmm. May want to talk to Kirmuss about that thing. I think need to be pretty careful with settings etc. Kirmuss tuned his machine to not damage the records and also has the right type of setup. I think Fremer also reviewed this machine…. I think the ultrasonic frequency may be the issue. Don’t even sound like they cleaned at all.
From what I’ve read and my own personal experience the machine won’t damage your records as long as you use it correctly. And I do agree with you that some of the records in this video didn’t sound all that much better, but that’s due to the fact that 3 of the 4 were in really bad shape to begin with. That being said, I really feel like the machine got rid of a lot of surface noise. It really made Donald Fagen’s The Night Fly sound excellent. I wish I could play more than 4 seconds, you would hear just how nice it cleaned up. Thanks for your comment.
@@BrianBringelson cool. It may be ok…it’s like 1/10 the price of some of the other units. My experience is that Charles Kirmuss has done a lot of research to get the best frequency for the ultrasonics. This looks like a machine made for multiple purposes.
@@revelry1969 that I do agree with you on. It’s clearly one of their standard machines with modifications made to clean records. But it seems to be safe, granted I haven’t run any of my Beatles pressings through it yet…haha
just so you know Kirmuss is a snake oil salesman total bunk this is ultrasonic, not ultra frequency, more snake oil from the lab coat huckster
Kirmuss is widely considered to be a hack.
the more you put on that spindle the less effective the machine is i usually do one maybe two at time tops
@@krwd interesting. I’ll have to try the next wash with two and see how it goes. I wanted to try the max amount to see how it would perform. I’m quite happy with the results.
@@BrianBringelsonYeah, another reviewer strongly recommending doing 4 or less records at a time. He found it to be Much more effective. But I’m glad to see what it can do with the max
I've seen reviews of this type of cleaner and supposedly when you stack records that close together the ultrasonic action can't get to the inner surfaces. It would be interesting to clean those same ones manually after the Vevor since it kinda sucked.
My wife order one for me about eight months ago.I have about three thousand vinyl albums i have to get my butt in gear and start cleaning them😮😮 😮😮😮
same her Gary. It's daunting isn't it lol.
You know you can raise/lower the motor mount in order to load/unload your records so no fear of scratching them on the side of the bath …¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@claudedionne992 yes good tip. Honestly I didn’t have much time to get to know the machine before I had to make this video on a deadline. I’ve used it many times since and raise and lower the motor mount.
you realize 37c is body temp right?
@@baronofgreymatter14 sure
You realize leaving this kind of comment is spectacularly stupid, right?
@@JLeeeP how so ...i was commenting on what was said about temp and vinyl melting . 37c is human body temp. So explain.
Availability in the UK 🇬🇧 ?!?#£!!?
LOL AT 15:53 the CLICKS AND POPs START EVEN BEFORE THE NEEDLE TOUCHES THE RECORD. THIS IS REALLY FAKE!
@@gerardoromano3436 it’s a delay in the audio and video sync. I recorded the audio directly to my iPhone while the video was shot on my camera. I then had to sync all of the clips up in my editing software.
The machine didn't do a great job.. Making excuses blaming the condition of the Dylan lp etc doesn't alter the little different it made