NBA Analyst Wants Knicks To Make MAJOR CHANGE To Starting Lineup... | Knicks News
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- The Knicks are seen as one of the best teams in the entire NBA after making notable upgrades and retaining their core of Jalen Brunson, Julius Randle, & OG Anunoby. However, after losing Isaiah Hartenstein, questions have begun to come up about the availability of Mitchell Robinson over an 82 game season. Many NBA Insiders and Analysts have weighed in on this situation for NY, including former NBA player Gilbert Arenas. Arenas believes NY has the answer at center already on their roster and he's not speaking about Mitchell Robinson... Troy Mahabir breaks all of this down!
SHOW CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Gilbert Arenas Wants Knicks To Start Julius Randle At Center
02:32 - Arenas Purposes Knicks Start: Randle, OG, Bridges, Hart, & Brunson
03:27 - Arenas Wants Knicks To Use Best Players In Starting Lineup
05:37 - We Need To See Randle At The 5 Before We Say It Works
07:17 - Knicks Are Looking For Center That Can Play Consistently
09:26 - Randle At The 5 Under Thibodeau Doesn't Work
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Gilbert Hates the Knicks. You can’t take any of his takes seriously. He wanted us to gut our whole team for Jaylen Green.😂😂😂
Not just gut, but trade brunson for him
@@a21wat exactly 😂 I was like what!!
@@boelysee6575 Jaylen Green? A hard pass. 😂
@@nellynel4583 word😂😂
100%
Randall is not Ben Wallace!!!
Malice at the Palace😂
Gil DID NOT SAY THAT! He said that the "FIVE" who would "FINISH THE GAME" would be Brunson at the "1", Hart/DiVincenzo at the "2" (if they are ahead, Hart will be on the court, if they are behind, DiVincenzo will be on the court), Mykel at the "3", OG at the "4" and Randle at the "5".
I sent a message earlier this week after Harkenstein left (and, I wish him luck, the Knicks could not offer more than four years/72 mil and OKC offered him much more and both teams are contenders so) and I said that "Randle can be the backup "5" if they stagger his minutes during the game. He can play at least 12 minutes at the backup center. Robinson and Sims (or, someone else) can play at least 36 minutes combined or less if the Knicks go small ball for a few minutes. Coach Tibbs, I know that he has his ways but this is the NBA now, position-less basketball. But, I know that the "RETURN OF THE BIGS" are happening so...
EVERYONE doesn't NEED A PODCAST. Gilbert have one good take every 10 times.
If the NY Knicks get Walker from the Utah Jazz. Walker could be the starting Center, make Robinson as a backup Center #1 and make Achiuwa as a backup Center #2.
That is a perfect roster.
Actually, Achiuwa can be a back up power forward for Julius Randal if we get Kessler Walker❤️😋
@@niledemitri3079Tibs will probably use Hart as back up
Walker 2 much money
@@niledemitri3079 Achiuwa is a "perfect" backup PF & Center, plus he is an All-round player better than Robinson.
I'd like to see that but at what cost?
If Gilbert Arenas says we are going to have an Earthquake I am having a Barbecue
My opinion is to go as big as possible. Randle should stay away from the center. Keep him a PF so he is big and strong at that position. Bring in a big center for that. Put Bridges as an SG, O.G. as an SF. Brunson the PG. Off the bench, another solid C, a true PF, Hart SF, Don SG, and whichever PG's show out. Stop going small and get bigger!!!!!
Bring in a big center you say... Think like a GM! How would you like the Knicks to do that? With what trade assets? The salary cap is exhausted. Mitchell Robinson is the Knicks center. Robinson is a very good defensive center when healthy. No better center is available to the Knicks under the current circumstances unless they give up a valuable player in return.
Randall gets hurt in that position. He's too small to play 5
Gill needs to chill
Randle at the 5 is ok at some points but when it comes down to playing big teams and centers like Embid it's going to be tuff
Pray Mitchell Robinson stays healthy. He is a strong defensive player when he is on his game.
Can’t play Randle at the 5 every night. This would only take place in certain situations with close games or weak center. Knicks will not put him through the grind every night and risk injuries plus takes a toll on body. Want him fresh for playoffs and season. The 5 spot should be handle by bigs 6’11 to 7’0+ who have size to protect rim and rebound plus score. Trust in Thibs to handle the personnel on this roster and how it plays out. He will let us know in his press conferences. Areanas is a good player but has never coach on any level (college or pros) previously. Unless he’s willing to go to Knicks as an assistant coach he can put his 2 cents in. For now no head coach or asst coach experience roster suggestions will not work out unless he or anyone actually sees the players first hand in the flesh what they are capable of
only in situations.
Hi Troy, thank you so much for this video. Very informative..
Not a bad idea. But in short moments in the game
Randle does not like playing the 5, but if he does, it brings speed to the team, and better shooting, but brings a lack of size underneath
I could see it working
I think Randle at the 5 might actually think it might work. Bam Adebayo is 6'10" and plays center...that works for miami and helps with pace.
Bam is the most versatile defender in basketball. Not the same
Bam is a proven winning center innthis league. julius hasnt proved shit yet
6’10 is still in the range of center height tho.. comparing Bam to Julius is very optimistic
DEFENSE.. that is not Randle strong suit.
Mitchell Robinson -- it's up to you. You ARE a GREAT defensive center when you want to be! Stay healthy and the Knicks will be a very difficult team to deal with in the big games against Philadelphia.
This is the hope with Robinson! I hope he can stay healthy but history isn't on his side. Thanks for watching! 💯🙏🏾
I believe that Thibs takes all line ups into consideration. Arenas never got a chip so how can he have so much input ?
Stick to talking trash buddy.
Thibs knows how to utilize his team and he doesn't need your opinion. I trust on Coach Thibs from day one. He takes this team seriously
Salute Troy good take and great content. I agree with utilizing a small ball line up in game situations depending on the match up. However if it does work then I don't see why Thibs wouldn't use it more often to counter certain match ups. Only time will tell
Appreciate it Nel! Thanks for watching and supporting! 🔥💯
How can you take a guy coming off of a serious shoulder injury to play the five. That's a recipe for disaster.
The Gil hate is warranted HOWEVER, Randle has played the 5 as a Laker, alongside Kobe....
So it has been done before.
NONESENCE So Julius Randle is going to go up against 7 footers like embiid
The 5 spot in Minnesota please
Sounds good on a case by case situation
Every game is different!
Thibs will have some very very tough decisions to make each game!
from a production standpoint you need some kind of music or sound after you signature shout it will help
And now... LETS GET STARTED!!!
Good note! I like to just jump into things right after. But appreciate the suggestion! 🔥💯
U can do that, in small stints, if you wanna go offense heavy, like what the old warriors would do. But the problem is randle is sure to end up in foul trouble, hes gotta guard embiid, porzingus? Hes probably getting best out for rebounds. I would only try it, if we wanted to try a hurry up, shoot 3s in volume line up. Not a full time starter there, no way.
It wouldn't work with him playing at 5:00 cuz he don't play no defense the only thing he wears about is his offensive game Jewish Randall's mostly offensive player he's not a defensive player!
I agree with an occasional, based on match ups line up of Randle @ 5. But then again, i also see (again based on opponent), an up and down tempo line up of OG at the 5, Hart at the 4 (Thibbs already has proven he loves Hart at the 4), Bridges at the 3, Dante at the 2, and maybe McBride at the 1. Push the tempo in a turbo lineup.
Julius Randle will be gone by the salary deadline in February, shortest team in the league rn
if they can get something now, pull the trigger
That will never happen
Julius prefer to play power forward.
In crunch time, it could work. You don't lose as much offensively
I believe it will happen in certain match ups but to start a game that way , not going to happen , Julius rebounds out of the power forward position real well because he position himself real well and that’s where he belongs
@@Brhoward31 He is a liability defensively
@@soramirez5473 yeah, but in close games where it becomes a free throw battle, Robinson offsets his defense with 0 offense
@@Brhoward31 well that’s why we need a center. Not Randle at center
Julius Randle as the primary rim protector.. good luck
lol for real
Here is my starting 5 for the Knicks 5-Robinson 4-Randle 3-OG 2-Hart 1-Brunson
Forcing Randle(6’8 bad knees) to the 5 is a HUGE risk that’s probably going to cost NY their championship
Randle never had bad knees 😂
@@michaeljordan6373 he blew his knew out his first night in the NBA. He used to be a skywalker
@@michaeljordan6373 and you so arrogant you gon laugh like you know this man.. did he not sit out his entire rookie year?
@@iguesss He broke his tibia dude.Randle has been pretty durable for his whole career besides the ankle injury in the 23 he reinjured in the playoffs and needed surgery for after and his recent shoulder injury.
@@BrooklynBalla oh im sorry. He had his tibila dislodged from his knee and has soreness every year yet you expect him to jump with the tree.. he literally sits our for knee soreness flares
My dude cut the shenanigans, and there are at least 8 teams better than the Knicks in the NBA. The Hartenstien lost hurt them big time because Mitch is a walking injury.
No.😂 9th best team ? That was us last year without Bridges
Keep Julius Randle at the 4. Robinson at the 5. Trade for a center to backup Robinson.
Knicks got their ex draft pick that came from the Charlotte Hornets from a draft day trade on 2023,Jalen Duren back. The Knicks that same night traded Duren and Kemba Walker to open up cap space to sign Jalen Brunson.
We good with Mitch. Just need a solid backup center. We already have a solid nine man rotation. So no need the over play anyone player.
Gil was just talking about at the end of the game. Whats the line up should be. Not any other time.
Randle being the big men constant basis in a tough stretch he is strong and physical I agree but dealing with guys like embid is not easy. And it will probably offset his game. Gilbert is basically saying that’s a strong starting 5 without any trades right now.
we should trade ju to houston for Alphan he would fit in with our core
Yea he does but I gotta see what juju do this year cuz I think he gone go off and even have a good play off run
@@papiking307 if we can get a good return I say trade Randle
We need to sign an actual 5, keep Randle at the 4.
i think knicks and hoping the knicks trade randle, get something for him before his contract ends...
Randle does not have the height/ defense/strength to play at the 5.
He only have strength
Mitch has to start. If mitch is healthy he gives us exactly what we need at that position. Defense and rebounding.
What if you use that same 5, but keep Randle at the 4 where he is comfortable....and use OG at the 5?
Thibs is the coach and he's been doing a damn good job at it... So I trust him to make the right starting 5 configuration...
Julius is unable to defend against anyone, Gilbert has to stay behind the wheel and drive rather than get into mischief
I agree Julius could play at center but just for little amount of minutes.
Iv'e always been a Knicks fan through the few ups and many downs. Losing IH was a big blow, and Julius coming back will be something to see. If history repeats itself, Brunson can play lights out but the end result will be the same. I personally think Randle should be moved. When this aren't going right we all see how he's sort of disruptive to the team and where is he in the post season? I've seen enough. The teams chemistry will be upset by the loss and return also the guys who got you to the post season will no longer be starters
YES TRADE RANDLE
No big can guard Randle from the 3pt line if he’s at the 5 that would be op I been wanting Randle playing the 5 since th hawks playoff series u have to have a small ball lineup sometimes u see what the warriors do with a small ball lineup
Thibs defense needs a rim protector Randle doesn't do that
Randle is amazing but redundant with this rotation for another $30 million. Now they’re pushing him to the permanent 5 spot
exactly trade him if they can.
This may work tbh and let Josh hart play the 2 because we need a rebounder
Yes run it aganist smaller teams yes
And given Julius' success percentage he is already limited in his game and this 30% from three-point range
Ben Wallace was 6’9 ….pray Mitchell don’t go down again 👏
Randle should have been traded to make room for Hartenstein. The guy doesn't play defense and his offense was spotty and inconsistent at best...problem was it cost games at important part of the games. IMO, Randle thought he was the leader but that was where he was wrong. As I said for 3 consecutive yrs...trade Randle. If he accepts that he is not a go to guy and plays defense then NYK has a lot of upsides for the coming season. Kessler could make up for the Hartenstein loss for sure!
Having Randle at 5 would force every team to change their defense. Randle could easily blow by a big slow center on an isolated, or shoot 3 if big man doesn't come out.
Lol that’s nonsense. They would dunk on him like every other knick. Never go out there with everyone on the court under 6’9. Lob city for every opponent
@@iguesss yup
Let's go new York Knicks
He said the 5 that should finish not start knicks for clicks huh?
We don't care about Gilbert or the fact we can't keep playing small ball in the playoffs
Alvin Witherspoon where you from
Its a stupid take from Gilbert's rambling.. you bring that line up when needed and if you want to punch the other team on the nose. You use that line up in the 4th to close.
Ant NOONE trying hear wtf gil talking about
The one thing Sims can do is jump. He should start , even if only for a minute or less.
No bro thibbs need yo chill try deffrent thing for the benegit of the team😊
I listen to GA about gambling and guns in the locker room
Time out Randle full time at the 5 is stupid and Josh Heart at shooting guard is also stupid at that starting postion.
And Josh Harris never playing the two over D.d
W🔥
Julius is only a forward small & power forward
Randle can play center in today's game
not defensively on a nightly basis. not in the playoffs.
@@soramirez5473 I agree but only Milwaukee and Philly have centers than can dominate down low. Boston won with Horford playing mostly outside of the box. I do still think we need a conventional big man in the middle for the long run.
@@Renato1024 absolutely or we’ll get killed on lobs n putbacks all season long
Randle is tough always been, but not sure that's an optimal move putting him in the 5 spot. Could he play it if you force him there sure, but that's not his natural position. He's a bucket and a bully and he needs to stay in his element.
Why does anything gil says deserve this much attention?
We would be stronger having Josh Hart, Big Ragu and McBride coming off the bench with Mitch at the 5, Randle at the 4, OG at the 3 and Bridges at 2 and JB at the 1 makes us much stronger ..GA hates the Knicks and he would be the last person we should ever listen to...trust our FO
Gils Arena gives take on the Knicks with lack if information. I can't listen to them.
first off who cares what Gilbert talking so much Arenas .... knicks gonna play the player that gives them best chance to win .. if you know by now whoever start doesn't matter with this team ...its who finishes the game thats important ..
He COOKING AT the 5 when the other team go SMALL they won’t be able to D him.
Most get another big man
Duce for Kessler
Danny Ainge is a villain and would not do anything this easy and clean.
@@kevinmckelvy3358 give them randle too
Bro you need to stop riding Robinson so hard. He's not as bad as you're portraiting him to be. I hope Robinson has a great year to prove you haters wrong.💯
Josh can play 1-4 easy!!
Dont knock it before tryingbit my guy
defensively the other teams will take advantage at the rim every single time. he already is sus defender at the 4. now he guna ANCHOR the D down low?
Brunson Divi, OG, Randle, Robinson Starters
2nd unit
Mcbride, Bridges, Hart,Sims, Kolek
Bridges on the 2nd unit would be good because having him with Randle and Brunson on the starting lineup ..... he won't score much. Those 2 guys love shooting
This is not a serious comment.
thats why you bring randle off the bench as the MAIN threat. Let Bridges play OFF Brunson
@@soramirez5473 you bring a all nba player off of the bench?? Lol
@@jamesmccracken2542 you laugh at me yet YOU think bridges is coming off the bench? Bridges doesn’t stop the ball, Randle does. Ok trade Randle then
@soramirez5473 what??? I never said Bridges 8s coming off of the bench.
Randle need to be traded because I am sure the shoulder injury will have some impact on his game. I like him but we are talking about 72 games.
YES.. trade him!
Gilbert is not an analyst, he’s just a bitter rando with a podcast.
Hart
randle has to go
Agree 100% Hart should start at the 4! Between Randle and Hart they will out rebound opposing teams while the Knicks play hellish defense! Preserve Robinson on the bench 20 minutes per game. Also OG and Bridges defense will prevent opposing teams from driving to the rim. Also Randle should play more of a role that Hartenstein played passing away from the paint! Freeing up the paint for Brunson and Bridges to drive!
randle is a ball stopper with sus defense.
Hartenstein was not the starting center. He was starting because Robinson was hurt. Gilbert Arenas Hates the Knicks, why are you listening to his nonsense?
Not going to Work with THIBS who preaches RIM PROTECTION
ALPEREN SEGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trade Randle then
Having 5 starters that can score is 👍
😅😅😅😅😅😅stop it right now...🙄🙄🙄
They're going to trade
MILES MCBRIDE for WALKER KESSLER
Then sign KYLE LOWRY and PRECIOUS ACHIUWA
get rid of Randle too. Keep mcbirde
@soramirez5473 then you would have an abundance of guards/wings, and no power forward 🤷🏾 especially one that gives you 20/10🤦🏾
@@stevecarpenter4702 but no ball stopping and better defense. Trade Randle
That dude GA don’t know basketball
Gilbert’s comments are really irrelevant tho😅they all Knicks for clicks.
PUT RANDLE OR OG @THE 5 ..
I rather OG cuz of defense. i rather just trade randle out right tho