Great tips. I have been using tippet ring rigs. 4ft to the ring, 20 in to the anchor. 6 inch tag. At times it will wrap around the tippet. Other than that it’s quick and easy to add or remove the tag. I will try the double clinch!
Great video and advice. I like fising one Nymph. It is easier to cast and change one nymp out if you are trying out patterns on new streams. What junction knot are you using for the smaller fly with the 6x tippet in your first example? Great hacks overall. I am going to try them all :-).
I wish you could show us the knots for the first example. with a new 9' leader I often leave the tag longer to add the top fly and the tippet down to my anchor fly. BUT, how do you tie it if you're going to run 5x only to the top fly and 4x to the bottom fly? thank you.
I’ve been doing the double clinch rig for a couple years now and I swear by it. The disadvantages are that the dropper fly is constant (can’t switch it out w/out re-rigging) and it can get tangled if the fish eats it but everything in-line with this rig is superior imo.
My favorite one is the long tag leader or tag end. I self discovered it without seeing others talk about it till now. So I run a larger tungsten head fly up there and smaller one down below usually with great success. I play with the leader lengths to how I want to fish the stream situation! Zebra midges quite deadly on the rainbow trout where I’m at!
A question here… you mention that your point fly is to be in contact with the bottom, do you mean like continually bouncing off of the bottom or should it be drifting suspended just above the bottom, maybe only ticking the bottom every once in a while? TIA
Great question, a bit of both. If it's a "moppy" fly like a stonefly nymph with Cheneille or a bugger of sorts it will do fine being "near" the bottom in the layer of water that is hardly moving. These big stubborn flies allow you to pull light tension against it without lifting it to the surface. With typical beadhead Perdigon style tungsten nymphs you'll want to be in near constant contact. A small streamlined nymph like a Perdigon doesn't tolerate as much tension without being lift way up off the bottom.
Great video. Well done. Great and clear information. Quick question (I hope it is OK). How do you feel about tying a tippet ring to the tippet and then attach 2 separate tippets to that ring? One would go to the point fly and the other to the dropper in the Euro set-up. That way, if a fly breaks off due to a snag (or whatever), you'd simply just tie a new tippet (with a fly attached) to the tippet ring and you are up and running. Seems like an easy set up. Not sure if the tippet ring would compromise the drift though. I appreciate your response.
Yes that rig works great, the trick is to use a slightly stronger tippet size above the lower ring. I think it is outlined here somewhere in this video, as it's not an uncommon setup. I personally don't like it but have seen many anglers do this.
Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate the response and the information. Love your videos. Thanks for posting them and sharing your knowledge and experience
Clinch knot and even surgeon loop hitched onto your main tippet greatly decreases the breaking strength of that line (which means a fish on either nymph is more likely to break off). Instead tie your new upper fly on with half of a double uni knot above the "old" knot. That puts 5-6 wraps around the main line instead of 1 or 2 in your rig with a clinch or surgeon.
Thank you very much! Just started Euro Nymphing and after many videos this is the best explanation and simple for beginners. Subscribe now and looking forward to seeing more of your work.
I've been tying off on the hook bend for years with barbed hooks. Now that I have gone barbless on the anchor fly I lose many of my droppers. The knot slips right off the hook bend/point. Any tips?
Great tips Joe!! Thanks for sharing!! Kelly Galloup showed a similar way to attach a tag fly by pre-tying 4-6” Tags with a perfection loop on the end and would just slip it above the knot in the line and cinch it down. Changing out the top fly is easy to with the perfection loop. Just un loop it and change it out. Same concept and great ideas!!
So, modern fluoro is strong enough that girth hitching or clinching one line around the other doesn't compromise the line with a fish on? I never would have thought to try it, but I'm really happy to hear it!
I use the clinch knot when adding a new dropper. The girth hitch will work fine too. The benefit of the clinch knot is that there is less resistance with one small knot as apposed to a knot and then a loop. This means that the clinch knot method will sink quicker and the current will have less drag on it as well. It's better in my opinion.
Great tips. I have been using tippet ring rigs. 4ft to the ring, 20 in to the anchor. 6 inch tag. At times it will wrap around the tippet. Other than that it’s quick and easy to add or remove the tag. I will try the double clinch!
I’ve gone to the dark side of tippet rings when double anything. Your tips are all excellent…
Great video and advice. I like fising one Nymph. It is easier to cast and change one nymp out if you are trying out patterns on new streams. What junction knot are you using for the smaller fly with the 6x tippet in your first example? Great hacks overall. I am going to try them all :-).
I wish you could show us the knots for the first example. with a new 9' leader I often leave the tag longer to add the top fly and the tippet down to my anchor fly. BUT, how do you tie it if you're going to run 5x only to the top fly and 4x to the bottom fly? thank you.
For their abundance of information and complete lack of pretension, Joe's videos can't be beat.
Ha! Love this. I just want to see folks catch fish and stick with fly fishing long term.
I’ve been doing the double clinch rig for a couple years now and I swear by it. The disadvantages are that the dropper fly is constant (can’t switch it out w/out re-rigging) and it can get tangled if the fish eats it but everything in-line with this rig is superior imo.
I’ve also had a lot of success with tippet rings. Makes switching out tippet diameters and flies fast and easy
I’m not a fan of double nymph rigs but these are useful tips in case I decide to fish this way. Thanks Joe
My favorite one is the long tag leader or tag end. I self discovered it without seeing others talk about it till now.
So I run a larger tungsten head fly up there and smaller one down below usually with great success. I play with the leader lengths to how I want to fish the stream situation! Zebra midges quite deadly on the rainbow trout where I’m at!
Great share, I've heard that works extremely well in shallow water.
A question here… you mention that your point fly is to be in contact with the bottom, do you mean like continually bouncing off of the bottom or should it be drifting suspended just above the bottom, maybe only ticking the bottom every once in a while? TIA
Great question, a bit of both. If it's a "moppy" fly like a stonefly nymph with Cheneille or a bugger of sorts it will do fine being "near" the bottom in the layer of water that is hardly moving. These big stubborn flies allow you to pull light tension against it without lifting it to the surface. With typical beadhead Perdigon style tungsten nymphs you'll want to be in near constant contact. A small streamlined nymph like a Perdigon doesn't tolerate as much tension without being lift way up off the bottom.
Did you really bring a white board to the river and take +12 minutes to explain a basic two nymph rig?
I'm not sure I would call some of this basic, you're assuming everyone has your knowledge.
One of your best--thanks
Great video. Well done. Great and clear information.
Quick question (I hope it is OK). How do you feel about tying a tippet ring to the tippet and then attach 2 separate tippets to that ring? One would go to the point fly and the other to the dropper in the Euro set-up. That way, if a fly breaks off due to a snag (or whatever), you'd simply just tie a new tippet (with a fly attached) to the tippet ring and you are up and running. Seems like an easy set up. Not sure if the tippet ring would compromise the drift though. I appreciate your response.
Yes that rig works great, the trick is to use a slightly stronger tippet size above the lower ring. I think it is outlined here somewhere in this video, as it's not an uncommon setup. I personally don't like it but have seen many anglers do this.
Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate the response and the information. Love your videos. Thanks for posting them and sharing your knowledge and experience
Clinch knot and even surgeon loop hitched onto your main tippet greatly decreases the breaking strength of that line (which means a fish on either nymph is more likely to break off). Instead tie your new upper fly on with half of a double uni knot above the "old" knot. That puts 5-6 wraps around the main line instead of 1 or 2 in your rig with a clinch or surgeon.
Is the stickman using a Thomas and Thomas Contact 2 or is he using a Sage ESN rod?
ahahahha. T&T it looks like. Thanks for the laugh, always fun to have one of these as I sort through the comments.
Thank you very much! Just started Euro Nymphing and after many videos this is the best explanation and simple for beginners. Subscribe now and looking forward to seeing more of your work.
Great to hear! Thank you!
Your explanations are very clear, logical and effective ! Great speaker . You should run for the office of fish commissioner
Wow, thanks. That job doesn't sound as enjoyable though haha. Nice compliments, very kind of you!
I've been tying off on the hook bend for years with barbed hooks. Now that I have gone barbless on the anchor fly I lose many of my droppers. The knot slips right off the hook bend/point. Any tips?
You bet, there are several options here but you can tie it the eye of your larger fly. That won't slip haha.
Great tips Joe!! Thanks for sharing!! Kelly Galloup showed a similar way to attach a tag fly by pre-tying 4-6” Tags with a perfection loop on the end and would just slip it above the knot in the line and cinch it down. Changing out the top fly is easy to with the perfection loop. Just un loop it and change it out. Same concept and great ideas!!
Yes that is a great tip, then you can swap in and out I suppose.
So, modern fluoro is strong enough that girth hitching or clinching one line around the other doesn't compromise the line with a fish on? I never would have thought to try it, but I'm really happy to hear it!
I use the clinch knot when adding a new dropper. The girth hitch will work fine too. The benefit of the clinch knot is that there is less resistance with one small knot as apposed to a knot and then a loop. This means that the clinch knot method will sink quicker and the current will have less drag on it as well. It's better in my opinion.
Thank you professor! 🎣🤓👍
These are great tips, Joe! Thanks!
Good tips. Thanks.
Very helpful Joe! Which non-slip loop knot do you use?
Kreh's Non Slip Mono Loop - works great!
Thanks for the hacks man!
Great
Great Thanks
These are very creative and helpful.
Thanks very much, there are lots of options here for various junctions.
Super helpful