*Rough Description* - Android 21 (Lab Coat) supplementary video: th-cam.com/video/rMrIzbAYBkE/w-d-xo.html - To buffer 22L from a dash, you can input it as 6262L (see Naoto run DP in BBCF). But most of the time there should be enough leniency for you to run up with 66 and then do a 22L. Only after Air DR and j.214M you might need to do a dash-buffered 22L. - To link 5L after her stomp (22L, or 22M/H without smash), you have to juggle the target to a particular height where the upper tip of the stomp’s hitbox connects on the lower tip of their hurtbox with a bit of “meatiness”. This would buy her extra frame advantage for 5L to connect in time. - The setup for a meaty stomp varies. There should be at least one way to perform stomp-5L links on every character, but even for the same sequences you might discover that different timing is necessary. For beginners, you can do #2 in the video on SSGoku (which requires no delaying anywhere) then on SSVegeta (which requires 22L be slightly delayed), just to get a feel of it before you move on to other variations in the corner. - Since v1.28, any move that puts your character into the air grants them super jump properties, which means you can hold 2 to fast fall after a super dash connects. This allows her to do j.M in the air during fast fall and land into 5M, enabling much better extensions than a traditional rejump. - If you manage to barely graze the upper tip of 214M/H against the target’s bottom tip, you’d get a side switch from underneath (as the target bounces on the tip of her spinning blade). - She gets a big damage buff after her command grab super (236H+S). I’m sure there’d be tons of solo sparkless TODs out of it. But I have no clue why this isn’t a controllable feature in Character Settings. You have to manually connect the Lv.1 super once before getting the damage buff in Training Mode. Either way, none of the combos in this video had buffed damage.
@@Orangeboy1345 so fkn ridiculous. what irritates me the most is that she can build heaps of bar even after an ex (same as vegito and gogeta blue). complete bs
Absurdity has arrived once again. Though I do say the find of the meaty links as well as the reverse 5H hitbox that Bardock and A21 have was quite nice. Adding to that was seeing the fast fall jM to 5M actually, I dont think i've ever seen that for any character except GT and Frieza SJ Install off 2H confirms so to see it off of a 5H rejump is pretty godlike, AND it works midscreen.
Some people can see the game and automatically figure out how it plays. Android 21's showcase showed us that she can do many cool things with her blades, stomps, etc. So it was a matter of time until someone actually made a combo video like xiao did.
I am floored. Absolutely, floored. Stunned. Astounded. I thought we’d reached the sealing for this character. I thought we discovered her kit’s maximum potential. And yet again, like the all knowing beholder, come to us with new combos and tech that none of us could have EVER thought to look for.
@@denisn8336 LC has been out for a couple of months. With her 21% special damage buff, non-existent hitstun decay and near infinite otg's, she also has the ability to kill off of goofy starters.
Lord Xiao with the blessings man 🤝 I can‘t believe her avg. meter build is 2 bars, and yet I‘m hoping she won‘t build a bar after random stray hits in neutral to debuff Cooler after I had worked my way through
this is fucking insane as always, but if i may say it l21 theme reminds me of the second round of crumbling laboratory in sf4 if anyone else hears that
I don't see why there wouldn't be a way to create a stomp link for every character, but yes the timing does change from targets to targets. Some are braindead easy, like the second combo here can be done on SSGoku or Base Goku without any delay.
I don't even know if you gonna read this but i have no ideia how you did these combos without getting the hitstun decay mark, can you explain that to me? I'm new to the game and like to play bardock but when i try to "create" my combos using assists it always wiffs due to hitstun decay, but you manage to do +20 seconds combos without dropping it
When doing combos my focus is on the on-hit behavior of the dummy and positioning, in order to see if there's possibility to create certain sequences I want. There are plenty of moves in DBFZ which has a minimum stun time regardless of hitstun decay, such as Dragon Rush and a bunch of command grabs. Since hitstun decays with time, the general idea is to use quicker moves with higher damage upfront and save those "guaranteed" moves for later. SBroly's combos would be a prime example of this concept.
@@YXiao Thanks for responding me, my pc is jammed thats why i didn't see you comment early but wow thats make way more sense now, when i fix my pc i'm gonna try to put more attention in my combos, thanks again for your answer and keep doin the videos 😁
Try the second combo on SSGoku. Don't delay anything. Otherwise, a difference character could require a different timing because they have difference hurtbox size. You can only link 5L if the stomp is meaty.
"Don't delay anything" means to buffer every input and don't leave any gap in between moves. Yes the stomp is normally the light version, though in some cases you can loop the medium one too. Once you get the combo to work, try it on SSVegeta again and see if it still works at that rhythm and what the difference could be.
here i was labbing with a21 thinking i had some cool shit going and then i stumble upon this beast of a man. My combos actually feel like green square combos compared to this guy holy
After seeing this I'm convinced ArcSys released her busted for sales, then probably will release a patch with fixes to make her more inline with the cast cuz she has wayy too much utility.
Bro your combos are always super crazy👌🏽I always see ALOT of people do so many combos with any cc then you post a video and am like I doubt he's done something I haven't seen already but everytime you always do countless stuff with any cc that I haven't seen some crazy optimal stuff to like that last combo you literally did all of her moves in 1 combo
Normally, a move has a startup phase, an active phase, and a recovery phase. The (1) hitstun of the move, (2) the point during its active phase at which it connects, and (3) its recovery phase duration determine together how early your character can act after the move. Meaty means to create situations where a move would connect NOT as soon as its active phase begins but a bit later, thus the opponent enters hitstun state later. Because you still recover at the same time, you get to act relatively earlier than usual.
I been attempting to pull these off but the only things I can do is the 5H link and hold down for j.m other than that I can’t do anything else even if my life depended on it
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*Rough Description*
- Android 21 (Lab Coat) supplementary video: th-cam.com/video/rMrIzbAYBkE/w-d-xo.html
- To buffer 22L from a dash, you can input it as 6262L (see Naoto run DP in BBCF). But most of the time there should be enough leniency for you to run up with 66 and then do a 22L. Only after Air DR and j.214M you might need to do a dash-buffered 22L.
- To link 5L after her stomp (22L, or 22M/H without smash), you have to juggle the target to a particular height where the upper tip of the stomp’s hitbox connects on the lower tip of their hurtbox with a bit of “meatiness”. This would buy her extra frame advantage for 5L to connect in time.
- The setup for a meaty stomp varies. There should be at least one way to perform stomp-5L links on every character, but even for the same sequences you might discover that different timing is necessary. For beginners, you can do #2 in the video on SSGoku (which requires no delaying anywhere) then on SSVegeta (which requires 22L be slightly delayed), just to get a feel of it before you move on to other variations in the corner.
- Since v1.28, any move that puts your character into the air grants them super jump properties, which means you can hold 2 to fast fall after a super dash connects. This allows her to do j.M in the air during fast fall and land into 5M, enabling much better extensions than a traditional rejump.
- If you manage to barely graze the upper tip of 214M/H against the target’s bottom tip, you’d get a side switch from underneath (as the target bounces on the tip of her spinning blade).
- She gets a big damage buff after her command grab super (236H+S). I’m sure there’d be tons of solo sparkless TODs out of it. But I have no clue why this isn’t a controllable feature in Character Settings. You have to manually connect the Lv.1 super once before getting the damage buff in Training Mode. Either way, none of the combos in this video had buffed damage.
Fun fact: the last combo is extremely easy compared to all the others with delays here and there.
@@YXiao is jm fall from suler jump install or something or is it just something she can do?
@@duggyfresh8899 You don't need to do super jump install anymore since v1.28. Any move that puts you in the air gives you super jump property.
@@YXiao thats right its been awhile i completely forgot about that thanks.
It's kinda wild how she can do all of this by herself without assists for combo extensions.
and build consistent 2 bars off it, and get a 21% debuff from it
@@Orangeboy1345 so fkn ridiculous. what irritates me the most is that she can build heaps of bar even after an ex (same as vegito and gogeta blue). complete bs
@@traidahhsien7378 right this character is top 2 if not top 1
Just like Baby
Absurdity has arrived once again. Though I do say the find of the meaty links as well as the reverse 5H hitbox that Bardock and A21 have was quite nice. Adding to that was seeing the fast fall jM to 5M actually, I dont think i've ever seen that for any character except GT and Frieza SJ Install off 2H confirms so to see it off of a 5H rejump is pretty godlike, AND it works midscreen.
It's not about winning, it's about the message.
The character is so broken, you're winning at the same time
5:53 looked like a DP 😩😩🔥🔥🔥
How do you combo monsters even think of these things. Ya'll are od!
Some people can see the game and automatically figure out how it plays. Android 21's showcase showed us that she can do many cool things with her blades, stomps, etc. So it was a matter of time until someone actually made a combo video like xiao did.
I am floored. Absolutely, floored. Stunned. Astounded. I thought we’d reached the sealing for this character. I thought we discovered her kit’s maximum potential. And yet again, like the all knowing beholder, come to us with new combos and tech that none of us could have EVER thought to look for.
She still meh
@@bullseye3054 you will be nerfed 21%
You thought we hit the ceiling for this character already? It's only been a few days of course people are still finding new tech
Lab coat 21 has a 8 frame 2m. SBroly 5L is 10 frames. 21 beam is 14 frames. Baby is 28 frames. Make it make sense Bandai
S broly hits significantly harder tho
@@denisn8336 hes not a good character tho
@@denisn8336 no he doesn't lmao. LC gets to do dumb damage too
@@drewsantos163 s broly can Tod off a dragon rush dude
@@denisn8336 LC has been out for a couple of months. With her 21% special damage buff, non-existent hitstun decay and near infinite otg's, she also has the ability to kill off of goofy starters.
I was a few minutes behind checking today to see if Xiao was gettin on 21 and I knew it😂😂 never lets us down 🔥
Like at 4:07 I'm always amazed how you do the most unexpected side-switches 🤨
High quality as always. I was literally waiting for someone to make a video about the stomp into 5L.
Lord Xiao with the blessings man 🤝
I can‘t believe her avg. meter build is 2 bars, and yet I‘m hoping she won‘t build a bar after random stray hits in neutral to debuff Cooler after I had worked my way through
Will you ever go into KofXV? I loved your kof xiii content in the past
I plan to make some input demo videos with XV, but combo video wise I can't promise. Free time has been a luxury for me since January.
@@YXiao thats a shame. Hope youre doing well tho
@@EX-Flashkick I'm doing alright! Just need to prioritize work more than other things. Thanks for asking
Much better than Majin. She looks ridiculously fun to play.
Can’t wait till this weekend is over people gonna hate the official Android 21 team again 😈 -604GrandMaster
Damn bruh #7 was clean
this is fucking insane as always, but if i may say it l21 theme reminds me of the second round of crumbling laboratory in sf4 if anyone else hears that
The rhythm at the very beginning reminds me of Karin's theme from Alpha 3.
i kinda hear that listening to
She's a awesome addition.
One day we got to see you and Clayton collab on a video man that would be a spectacle
Clayton could use an editor more than another combo maker.
I can't connect the 5L after the stomp😭
Nevermind just figured it out😆 The opponent has to be almost above your head when you stomp.
Of course it would not be a xiao video without jH 5L link
Shes the coolest character in the game
Thats awesome bro amazing really.
Those stomp extensions are WILD
Xiao be playing in a whole different league
Microdashing a 22 input though
This character feels illegal
It’s gt goku all over again
4:04 what the hell am I looking at😭😭😭
Beautiful 💯👊
3:50
Excuse me???! Why does he fly backwards after the 5H?!
Her 5H moves her rather forward, so at that instant her collision box is already on the right side.
Did they take away her combos with double lvl 1 cause ima be a bit mad if so I just got her to do fun combos….
Recovery of the ground version was increased in v1.31.
Fuck yes
Is there any character you can’t solve man been a fan of yours for years man keep up the great work
I skipped both Gogetas.
Are the stomp loops universal just different timings or character specific?
I don't see why there wouldn't be a way to create a stomp link for every character, but yes the timing does change from targets to targets. Some are braindead easy, like the second combo here can be done on SSGoku or Base Goku without any delay.
There something u know that we don’t. How does one think to do this?
I watched the same things others watched and made my own speculations:
twitter.com/yxiao1988/status/1494853433106460673?s=21
Man like Xiao gone 6 months without dbfz and cameback with absurd sauces and violence
To be fair I published a Cell video and Goku Black video over the past few weeks. :D
Good stuff 💪🏾 I’ve been finding hella stuff with her too
*guaranteed nerf next patch*
I'm not sure I understand the #6. I just can't link the 5L after the JH no matter how I do it lol
Give this a watch: th-cam.com/video/ENzlpKMaFtA/w-d-xo.html
@@YXiao oh that's what you meant by "I have a general conceptual tutorial" thanks
This is the definition of the character isn’t broken YOU are
how do i link the 236 grab level 1 after her stomp . everytime i go for it it misses .
You can no longer use her grab Lv1 in a combo since v1.31.
@@YXiao ahh that explains it thank youu
I don't even know if you gonna read this but i have no ideia how you did these combos without getting the hitstun decay mark, can you explain that to me? I'm new to the game and like to play bardock but when i try to "create" my combos using assists it always wiffs due to hitstun decay, but you manage to do +20 seconds combos without dropping it
When doing combos my focus is on the on-hit behavior of the dummy and positioning, in order to see if there's possibility to create certain sequences I want. There are plenty of moves in DBFZ which has a minimum stun time regardless of hitstun decay, such as Dragon Rush and a bunch of command grabs. Since hitstun decays with time, the general idea is to use quicker moves with higher damage upfront and save those "guaranteed" moves for later. SBroly's combos would be a prime example of this concept.
And of course, there are always trials and errors. I have failed way more than I have succeeded.
@@YXiao Thanks for responding me, my pc is jammed thats why i didn't see you comment early but wow thats make way more sense now, when i fix my pc i'm gonna try to put more attention in my combos, thanks again for your answer and keep doin the videos 😁
I'm gonna get wiped that's all in saying
Amazing video tho
Sorry man but I still can't underdtand how you do the stomp-5L link :/. I keep failing because he recovers to fast
Try the second combo on SSGoku. Don't delay anything.
Otherwise, a difference character could require a different timing because they have difference hurtbox size. You can only link 5L if the stomp is meaty.
@@YXiao By "delay", you mean only the time between the stomp and the 5L ? And the meaty stomp is the light version of the stomp, right ?
"Don't delay anything" means to buffer every input and don't leave any gap in between moves. Yes the stomp is normally the light version, though in some cases you can loop the medium one too.
Once you get the combo to work, try it on SSVegeta again and see if it still works at that rhythm and what the difference could be.
@@YXiao Okay thanks a lot. Nice vid btw 😁
I'm so glad these can still be done,I was afraid they'd take the stomp loops away
Why can she get solo DR post combo after an OTG into another OTG??
Thanks xiao
TOD with no assists... this character is too much but I love her lmao 🤣
Her kit is really good but aesthetically it looks really boring
OOOOOOH. So you have to hold down to land faster. Thank you good sir 👍.
You'd think she'd be released on day 1. Oh well great video
here i was labbing with a21 thinking i had some cool shit going and then i stumble upon this beast of a man. My combos actually feel like green square combos compared to this guy holy
"How much sauce do you want on a side of broken?"
*yes*
Incredible as always ! GGS
Its pretty funny that in auto combo ender she just slaps her opponent😂
Time to turn on my Sharingan so I can actually use this character online
After seeing this I'm convinced ArcSys released her busted for sales, then probably will release a patch with fixes to make her more inline with the cast cuz she has wayy too much utility.
Na leave this alone she’s fine. Just make the debuff not last for long
Bro your combos are always super crazy👌🏽I always see ALOT of people do so many combos with any cc then you post a video and am like I doubt he's done something I haven't seen already but everytime you always do countless stuff with any cc that I haven't seen some crazy optimal stuff to like that last combo you literally did all of her moves in 1 combo
Thanks for watching!
Que maestro mi padre Xiao.
Your combos never fail to amaze me
Damn, they really gave the best character in the game the most sauce
Man she screams "I am unapologetically overpowered". I am glad I stopped playing this game.
Bet you enjoyed season 1 and 2 where characters where actually overpowered smh
@@denisn8336 I wonder how stupid you feel 2 months later when literally nobody disagrees that's she's absurdly OP. It's easy to see OP shit day one.
Triple level 1's?,oh hell nah she tweakin
ZAAAAMN
Oh boy
Combo Jesus
I've seen the term used but I couldn't find a decent source telling me what meaty means. I'm relatively new to the fgc
Normally, a move has a startup phase, an active phase, and a recovery phase. The (1) hitstun of the move, (2) the point during its active phase at which it connects, and (3) its recovery phase duration determine together how early your character can act after the move. Meaty means to create situations where a move would connect NOT as soon as its active phase begins but a bit later, thus the opponent enters hitstun state later. Because you still recover at the same time, you get to act relatively earlier than usual.
@@YXiao Thank you so much
0:45 So any attack leaving you airborne, not only specials are SJ installed … huh
BROOOOO THATS SO DUMB
Yes. It was for this reason that Zamasu got a lot of j.214X link routes too.
😇
& #9 😎
Ik you told me to focus on stomp links but i don’t know what i’m doing wrong 🤧😪
Try doing #2 on SSGoku. Don't delay anything.
Then, try doing it again on SSVegeta, and try to figure out what you need to delay by observation.
I been attempting to pull these off but the only things I can do is the 5H link and hold down for j.m other than that I can’t do anything else even if my life depended on it
This is indeed a party game character