NAVI vs iG - GRAND FINAL - TI2 INTERNATIONAL 2012 DOTA 2

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  • @nekopaw8730
    @nekopaw8730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The moment IG win the ti and Navi celebrate together with them

    • @tobymiller8508
      @tobymiller8508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know im asking the wrong place but does anybody know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?
      I was stupid forgot my account password. I love any assistance you can offer me.

    • @joewalter3963
      @joewalter3963 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Toby Miller Instablaster :)

    • @_mvr_
      @_mvr_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Respect between these two teams."

  • @WassimJHaidar
    @WassimJHaidar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    26:05 so much respect for Puppey and Navi in general for accepting the loss and celebrating IGs success

  • @nhatminhle5372
    @nhatminhle5372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    anyone who comment that they played bad must remember this is just like in football. any 17s player right now in barca young team can be better than maradona back then. Look at their draft and strategy, if you go back in time and read the old patch and you will realize that they are at their best. The tp timing, the team fight, the smoke,.. remember, this is TI2 already, every1 who participate is the best of both DOTA2 AND DOTA1 because it was 2 million dollar price pool.
    Now the game is optimized so much better now. If you want to know how hard it is, just go play dota1 with some 6.00 patch =))))

    • @NixxCs
      @NixxCs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dendi played like a God and still lost which is sad

    • @rohthtike3504
      @rohthtike3504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’ll have to say
      Your choice of comparison is shit.
      Maradona lifted the World Cup while carrying the whole team on his back.
      Barca’s youth or whatever the fuck they have ain’t got nothing on him.
      Football was great.
      It just doesn’t look so coz of camera perspective and whatnot.

    • @MrGoblinax
      @MrGoblinax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NixxCs, well actually his impact is very low. Look at his networce on second map, only supports has lowest. Crowd shouting like hell when he just steal kills with fade bolt on 3d map. Ferrari make dondo look like trash(which he is)

  • @vin_1113
    @vin_1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lots of people criticizing the plays here (most dont even know all the players in these teams). This is 2012. How many patches did dota2 already have after this? Meta today is different from the meta in the past

    • @bigwig8657
      @bigwig8657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No shit, the meta was so insanely different at the time, shit games from 7.06 look so insanely different from now, and this was multiple huge map and mechanic changes prior to that. There was 0 rubberbanding, supports had to buy, courier, wards, upgrade, didn't have tranqs, tps cost 135g and you didn't get 3 free, early items sucked, ranged vanguard was a navi special, bounties didn't exist and there were hslf the jungle creeps.

    • @T-Blur
      @T-Blur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigwig8657 not to mention we have a whole decade worth of experience that we didn’t have then.

    • @Childofbhaal
      @Childofbhaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigwig8657 No talent trees, no shrines, leveling took forever, only one single rune spawned on bottom or top and you had to guess which one. Everyone sharing one courier. God I just miss the old DoTA

  • @johnjazer12
    @johnjazer12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Man watching this game made me realize how far the meta has changed xD

  • @Ayumu7
    @Ayumu7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No Commentary will top up LD, god I miss this man!

  • @Spyro5500
    @Spyro5500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    10:24 Wombo Comboooooo voice line please

  • @gumelarpurwatara2425
    @gumelarpurwatara2425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:34 that was a big catch, if Dendi still had his ultimate, they should win the fight.

  • @aridho905
    @aridho905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:30 Dendi throw the game

  • @DKtrek21
    @DKtrek21 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This iteration of IG is my favorite team of all time. IG signed the whole LGD team save for their carry which is ZSMJ, probably my favorite carry. He was replaced by Zhou who was their rival in their region. A true powerhouse of s team

    • @kevinbaluarte9013
      @kevinbaluarte9013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ZSMJ man wat a player with his dusa man was a madness in dota 1

    • @DKtrek21
      @DKtrek21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kevinbaluarte9013 I'm glad someone remembers his legendary Medusa game that set a record that wasn't broken until about a decade later.

  • @s.sacasqui6977
    @s.sacasqui6977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    did he said eyesfrog or icefrog at 26:34?

  • @Editor-S4M
    @Editor-S4M 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    10:24 WHY THERE'S NOT A CHATWHEEL SOUND OF THAT???

    • @labradog05
      @labradog05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hzhhahahaahhahahahhahhah freakin hilarious!

  • @hey8174
    @hey8174 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    darkseer vacuum was an insane spell

    • @MrAlexmercer94
      @MrAlexmercer94 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn it's like Reverse Polarity

    • @vin_1113
      @vin_1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah with its huge aoe and you can vacuum those who are slept by naga ulti

  • @jhonmarkquinalayo4672
    @jhonmarkquinalayo4672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ti 1-3 the most friendly TI ever ❤️

  • @gerardo49078
    @gerardo49078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is insane that it took 7 years for this video to be uploaded!

    • @gerardo49078
      @gerardo49078 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kastielangel. My, you are so smart! I wish I was born with your intelect

  • @mganoobkaYoxxx
    @mganoobkaYoxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    listen how sad is the commentator when navi gets picked off and completely lost enthusiasm when iG won aegis hahaha

  • @knowledgetoshare4061
    @knowledgetoshare4061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    26:06 idk man but NAVI looks more happier Than IG

    • @tom594
      @tom594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The irony

  • @joevicestrella8869
    @joevicestrella8869 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2012 Jugg: Me can tank them bois
    2019 Jugg: Wait me bois. Need more 20 mins to farm this Diffu.

    • @ywchyzkxqlxp
      @ywchyzkxqlxp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xboct's jugg is trash tho

  • @HighStrain
    @HighStrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    kid watching this in 2020:
    wooooooooooooah, its dota2?!

  • @jefflenderdelafuente5970
    @jefflenderdelafuente5970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This IG team was the most solid lineup on ti 2 everyone expected them to win

  • @miski5725
    @miski5725 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    looking back, it just shows how great of a player puppey is to be on the top for so long. rooting for him to get his second aegis

  • @thejonasvanbaelenpodcast
    @thejonasvanbaelenpodcast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Memorable TI but also nice to see how absolutely terrible everyone's gameplay was back then 😂

    • @pug7552
      @pug7552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Doffy Lol dude, they were comparable to todays 3k level. These were still players who had played the game all day, everyday for 6-8 years. The meta was different back then, just because you cant underdtand the playstyle doesnt mean its bad. Get off your high horse, holy shit.

    • @aaronaaron5861
      @aaronaaron5861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Doffy and you're still 3k today. At least they got into a TI grand final lol

  • @harrahjaienudalo942
    @harrahjaienudalo942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even navi loss navi had so much memory that they made dota
    Alive!

  • @林海-r9w
    @林海-r9w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ig , the first dota2 and lol dual champion.

  • @arnoldabalos3422
    @arnoldabalos3422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:52 he wants more? Where?

  • @Catobleppa.92
    @Catobleppa.92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like what you're doing bro, keep the finals coming!

  • @koknyoq
    @koknyoq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    XBoct perspective: I'm at half hp, no omnislash. I could solo jump on them and get rampage ez TI.

  • @sirajarkhan4437
    @sirajarkhan4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2016-2017 bigest changed dota ever ez push ez win only before 2017

    • @nicodemus_ss
      @nicodemus_ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree 100%.. I miss old dota

  • @saiki5484
    @saiki5484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Next year ti3 I bet Alliance will be there with Na'vi.

  • @melicirs78
    @melicirs78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    before: this game is for divine ranking
    now: this type of game is common on crusader ranking

    • @hadeangt3071
      @hadeangt3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah u just crusader and thinks highly about yourself

  • @galaxybrainclips
    @galaxybrainclips 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old times. Feelsgoodman.

  • @popnz77
    @popnz77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah shit this memorable, a legendary TI n the legendary moments 😢😢 TY NOOBFROMUA

  • @elwinbu5926
    @elwinbu5926 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just love LD casting . The best of his casting days is definitely during TI2.

  • @ayashkar7589
    @ayashkar7589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE GUYS LETS ENJOY IT DNT DISRESPECT THE PAST

  • @gamehub4574
    @gamehub4574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the meta back then was simple and effective

  • @PisLusty
    @PisLusty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:04 Xboct naga coming through ♿♿♿♿♿♿

  • @Aspoooonful
    @Aspoooonful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2GD and nebu1a. FeelsOldMan

  • @hanawvic
    @hanawvic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ICEFROG was there with casters :)

  • @enkelito1
    @enkelito1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    he went super greedy on naga first game no manta straight for radiance after vanguard

  • @vergelpacquing5867
    @vergelpacquing5867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still having goosebumps

  • @bickdig511
    @bickdig511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    good old days vanguard meta

  • @kingsingson5805
    @kingsingson5805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bet 1million dollars, navi will win next year TI 3

  • @arifsetyowahono6629
    @arifsetyowahono6629 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Puppey let IG to pick TA 4 game straight... What a mistake

  • @cletusbambino8550
    @cletusbambino8550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    26:06 Singsong almost raped by puppey omegalul

    • @HienTran95
      @HienTran95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's Ferrari430, not singsing guys

    • @NomadUrpagi
      @NomadUrpagi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol noob

    • @silentalienguitar
      @silentalienguitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hiền Trần u know singsing looking like ferrari is a joke right?

    • @NomadUrpagi
      @NomadUrpagi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silentalienguitar well yeah how do we know he was joking? Theres no sign of it

    • @silentalienguitar
      @silentalienguitar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jo Kah The joke is singsing looking like ferrari

  • @Mr-incredrible
    @Mr-incredrible 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh the good old dota2 where you don't get one shot by ta

  • @PiscuiOpina
    @PiscuiOpina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old Times :']

  • @realdumbzz
    @realdumbzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for TI3 Finals :D

  • @aleksjeff3088
    @aleksjeff3088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ferrari_430 best mid

  • @jeffreymadrid2425
    @jeffreymadrid2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you build vanguard on jugg

  • @BlackSilverUfaSuper
    @BlackSilverUfaSuper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old but gold

  • @simpaciaga4751
    @simpaciaga4751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1. Damn casters sucked back then
    2. looking back I think xboct fucked up the finals

    • @NKeise
      @NKeise 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dunno about his item builds, arcane vanguard on naga and treads, vanguard on jug, like wtf?

    • @varietyheal3016
      @varietyheal3016 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mastermind- different meta my dude

    • @meilaniyusuf1917
      @meilaniyusuf1917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think not meta , jugg have no damage , his Omni no impact

    • @puffyfishpepper9903
      @puffyfishpepper9903 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meilaniyusuf1917 vanguard if op item back then

    • @meilaniyusuf1917
      @meilaniyusuf1917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol op item for jugg , xboct all buy vanguard , see naga siren zhou not buy vg , he buy diffusal manta

  • @Spyro5500
    @Spyro5500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The host at the end says he's here with Icefrog, and it's Bruno. Were they still doing that joke back then, or is that legit?

  • @YasinYILMAZ301
    @YasinYILMAZ301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At the end he says icefrog. Is he (yellow jacket) really icefrog?

    • @grilledtuna2744
      @grilledtuna2744 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep that's him

    • @spectrehaunt12
      @spectrehaunt12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hell no, its a joke.

    • @YasinYILMAZ301
      @YasinYILMAZ301 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spectrehaunt12 Joke? I don't get it. Can you explain?

    • @dr.angerous
      @dr.angerous ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@YasinYILMAZ301shut up

  • @8816-y6d
    @8816-y6d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you guys miss LD?

    • @sapoagent4173
      @sapoagent4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The guy who talked about disabled pornography in chinese hotels, whilst being on a panel for a computer game? Whilst his audience is probably anything older than... 9? LD, the same guy who analyzed a match and brought up chinese peoples penis sizes? The same guy who again and again on twitter promotes white power, racism and sexism and Trump shit?
      No, I don't miss him.

    • @volgtorbg
      @volgtorbg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sapoagent4173 thats 2gd

    • @thomasilves5392
      @thomasilves5392 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sapoagent4173 Wrong guy...

  • @liwen4270
    @liwen4270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FGNB!这下真的梦回TI2了hhhh

  • @delusion-1375
    @delusion-1375 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Damn i look back at this and i can see how noob they were LUL

    • @animeshbiswal8121
      @animeshbiswal8121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah sure they made to a position u can never dream to have .Sad life kid

    • @delusion-1375
      @delusion-1375 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@animeshbiswal8121 are you ok m8???
      I just said how noob they were back then ... im not assuming they still suck now... dunno why you are so butthurt for no reason xD .. im pretty sure im not the sad kid here

    • @crazyiron9003
      @crazyiron9003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@delusion-1375 Yea ur still miserable, but they are millionaires

  • @barbasour
    @barbasour 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's ICEFROG on the far left panel

  • @ianian7879
    @ianian7879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This jugg tryna kill Ta and Naga with heart with only drums and vanguard. So sad to watch 💔

  • @bigricardo3944
    @bigricardo3944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know 2012 jugg build, xboct really throws the game big time cringey af

    • @cesarpavon4802
      @cesarpavon4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That tp with 30% hp wut...322

  • @Zedris
    @Zedris 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn i forgot how bad the casting was and how much it improved

  • @mhadzgaming3411
    @mhadzgaming3411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So three consecutive years that Navi qualified to Final?

    • @edwardsaranguena8136
      @edwardsaranguena8136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @amberkay5632
      @amberkay5632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes not bad for a dota 2 team , 1 champion 2 first runner up
      Best achievement, my ranking
      1. OG 2 x TI champion
      2. NAVI 1 x TI champion 2 x first runner up
      3/4 Newbee and Nigma (former liquid) 1 x TI Champion 1 x first runner up

  • @NachoChu
    @NachoChu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Newbee won TI7, Faith would be the first two time TI Champ

    • @otoshi1010
      @otoshi1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If navi won TI 2 4 ppl would've been 2 time champ. puppey dendi xboct loh
      if navi won TI 3 4 ppl would've been 2 time champ as well. puppey dendi xboct kuroky

  • @LuisAlberto-ex7hz
    @LuisAlberto-ex7hz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss the old zhou. He was a monster.

  • @erwinner23
    @erwinner23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So epic man!! Nice nice, so Manu memories. Xboct ítems on jugger, rofl. That buil full of vanguards in both teams, imba ítem lol

  • @muhamadhafizi9516
    @muhamadhafizi9516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Patience from zhou..old but gold

  • @elianboyz3179
    @elianboyz3179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Navi strat in last game, war and run

  • @lonery5831
    @lonery5831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    disliked cos of slow upload

  • @milenmetodiev8722
    @milenmetodiev8722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Without BKB against Tide ?? how you can win team fight ?

  • @kizkizkiz8518
    @kizkizkiz8518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ferrari 430 > dondo. Such a skillful yet an underrated player. I kinda forgot but at that time (TI 2), only 430 n iceiceice who played invoker n ta on that event.

  • @MrAlexmercer94
    @MrAlexmercer94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awwww 2GD..press F for his soul

    • @mr-vb3id
      @mr-vb3id 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      who is 2gd?

    • @MrAlexmercer94
      @MrAlexmercer94 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr-vb3id dota2 commentator. He got fired by Gaben after the snarky remarks he made during a tournament opening at Shanghai Major in China.

    • @mr-vb3id
      @mr-vb3id 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrAlexmercer94 what did he say tho?

    • @MrAlexmercer94
      @MrAlexmercer94 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr-vb3id just search it its on youtube. 2GD drama

  • @ianfrancochurs8058
    @ianfrancochurs8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Qué tal mi jugger con full daño gente fino o ñofi? Xddd

  • @ckwong7142
    @ckwong7142 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good times, when vanguard is fucking busted and is a auto build item

  • @fuaru3943
    @fuaru3943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Game 3, what combos Navi think?

  • @bowenxu4096
    @bowenxu4096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    FGNB!

  • @howardchinchin3589
    @howardchinchin3589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your grand champion

  • @apoyarskii9432
    @apoyarskii9432 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zhou and LoH LD players FeelsGoodMan

  • @mabby8449
    @mabby8449 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I miss xboct

  • @purrpuree8434
    @purrpuree8434 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lumi and LD at its finest!

  • @sanithakor5187
    @sanithakor5187 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old is gold 😍

  • @arcanepersona1676
    @arcanepersona1676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    26:32 is the guy in yellow suit actually icefrog ??!! First time I see him and i play DotA since 2013

    • @Tintelinus
      @Tintelinus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. Nah it was just a common meme at the time. Its Bruno and he was a personality in the early Dota days untill he got a job at Valve iirc

  • @eyamm3956
    @eyamm3956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish odpixel could cast this

  • @denzhil9099
    @denzhil9099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vacuum had to much range

  • @jetgamez643
    @jetgamez643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Patience from Zhou

  • @historiumnexus
    @historiumnexus ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Los viejos tiempos, juggernaut minuto 40 tambor y vanguard , y uno era feliz viendo estas plays 😂😂😂

    • @KillaTiman
      @KillaTiman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      XBOCT asked his teammate what to buy he said buy Vanguard.XBOCT still regrets that buying

    • @historiumnexus
      @historiumnexus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KillaTiman lol he was greatly overrated, but nice plays

    • @KillaTiman
      @KillaTiman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @historiumnexus as I remember there wasn't much heroes and items to choose and vanguard was meta though

  • @ibnufadilah7934
    @ibnufadilah7934 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im waiting your post "TI8 RECAP" ;;(

  • @victorlh8627
    @victorlh8627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good ol days

  • @riantoroteguh2016
    @riantoroteguh2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can we get LD "wombo combooo" chat wheel pls

  • @LlanC
    @LlanC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2GD I miss YOU! :(

    • @Johnedyy
      @Johnedyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What happened to him?

  • @LegoofMaEggo
    @LegoofMaEggo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Na'vi got into their heads and shook the asians upppp

  • @mostafatarakji4937
    @mostafatarakji4937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I feel so old

  • @chanlito_
    @chanlito_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That "Navi is back!" shout rofl.

  • @chaser_id
    @chaser_id 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is up? Reupload?

    • @quackcharge
      @quackcharge 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no pro games to upload before TI

  • @erebuskaslana1583
    @erebuskaslana1583 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throwback is real

  • @ampar1010
    @ampar1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back when 20 min racks is an early racks

  • @andrewhard1
    @andrewhard1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Верните ту старую доту

  • @MISTERX7725_
    @MISTERX7725_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus Christ I remember when Ferrari made TA look so broken around this time.

    • @rnt__
      @rnt__ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed

  • @Bossmaster1223
    @Bossmaster1223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i miss old na'vi :(

  • @pangs3798
    @pangs3798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That jugg in game 4 crusader gaming

  • @imD1yeah
    @imD1yeah 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    see the mid tower position damn scary so far

  • @manuelchucuan5624
    @manuelchucuan5624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wtf el tercer juego esa naga durmiendo a todos con el ulti y mi cabeza pero por que los duerme no tienen ningún hero que aproveche tal posicionamiento esos picks están de la verga

    • @nickkick9928
      @nickkick9928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No habia heroe con que combear ps, en cambio cuandl sacaban darksir si habia buen combo xD