Michael Jackson's Former Girlfriend Speaks Out! Tatiana Thumbtzen In Her Own Words | the detail.
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- Tatiana Thumbtzen, best known as Michael Jackson's video girl for his 1987 No. 1 hit, 'The Way You Make Me Feel', also dated the artist for a brief period of time afterwards. Here in her own words, Tatiana describes her intimate relationship with Jackson and the mark he left on her heart after his untimely death in 2009.
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I think they liked each other. I wished michaels manager let him be happy. Instead they tried to keep him single so fans wouldn’t freak out but Michael deserved to be happy.
Fans paparazzi's and media all combined ruined that man's life
I so agree with both of you :(
Naw after she was fired she started fucking with prince that really sealed it bc think about it he dated Brooke shields 2 times once in the 80’s and again in 91 so personally he would’ve went back if he wanted to
MJ was a grown ass man ( whether he realized it or not) who could have made his own decisions. His fans wouldn’t care whether he had a woman or not.
Michael fires her,not his manager.
If having a crush on someone counts as a "girlfriend?" Then I've had 860,000 ex-girlfriends!
And ive had 0 boyfriends 👁👄👁
Between having a crush for a day or a week and seeing someone for several months and kissing her or him (even if it's not an affair) I very much doubt that you would have 830,000 crushes ? Pfft....
@@nross3101 lol 😆
@@nross3101 Sarcasm look it up
@@Jr.III-187 No, just common sense
if he married her, just imagine how beautiful their babies would be and how happy they would be as a big family! Michael chose wrong people around and trusted wrong people, sad sad sad.
The same thoughts!!
I know right
100% true
😢🙏❤
Very truth and right
Their “relationship” sounds like two ten years olds saying their boyfriend and girlfriend and never speaking to each other on the playground!
Well put. Never thought about it like that but you’re 100% correct.
very accurate
Yes it was innocent ..but BOTH of them wanted more ..sadly the people around MJ 🚫 blocked them from getting any closer.
Well they obviously spoke 🙄
😂😂😂 I agree
She sort of looked like him
Maybe that's the problem.
Daily Hunter LOL
🤣
Like his sister
🤔🤔no they were just two beautiful people
She was literally the female embodiment of Michael at the time. Gosh they were one of the most gorgeous couples I've seen in my life.
Well they weren’t a couple but they would’ve been fr
They kinda remind me of Prince and Vanity in some kinda way.
You need to get your eyes checked, they weren’t even close to be in the most gorgeous couple
@@BK-wm1tg Why you gotta be like that? They looked really beautiful together 😛
@@theselumps5355 He turned out to be a freak, and she was nothing but gushy, gullible woman seeking attention and fame
Whether she was in love, obsessed or just insane- I believe that she was also caught in that euphoric sensation of being in his stardom. That's something most of us don't get in our lives and when it happens, it something that changes and shapes your life in any way.
Good point and probably very accurate depiction of what went on. Even Lisa Presley who was somebody that grew up around fame was sucked in by Michael Jackson he just has one of those charismatic personality’s not only as an entertainer but as a person I’m sure anybody in this common section that was in her position probably would’ve sat felt the same way because he’s that type of person almost like Marilyn Monroe that make you feel like you’re everything in that moment
The people around Michael prefer Elvis daughter,..it will boost his career more
He didnt know how to tell her...he didnt know where to place it...he got close enough to Presley..they had a strong friendship and then a marriage
MI heal Jackson was being enslaved so long ago...they didnt want Micheal distracted...they had other plans for him..negative publicity...there is no reason for that
Totally. I'm curious about who you are and your experiences that you know so well that you can express it so eloquently and specifically!
Michael was a kind soul, misunderstood, a wounded, traumatized human. He surrounded himself with kids because he could trust them and relate to them. He was a Peter Pan, and created his own little world. The pain medicine that killed him in the end was a tragedy, not unlike the plague that is Oxycodone, destroying lives turning them into addicts. He touched so many by his talents I will always kindly think of him and be thankful for his music.
he was an angel
He never wanted to grow old and he loathed the look of aging skin, He was always likened himself to Peter Pan and now hes able to live out eternity doing just that being P.P
Думаю він завжди залишався дитиною .
Swallow from behind???? Sure.
The media calling him "jacko" and "wacko jacko", stuff like that is EXTREMELY disrespectful, racist, and disgusting. How Michael was treated truly breaks my heart. RIP Michael Jackson ❤🙏🏽
Extremely disrespectful, yes. Disgusting even. But racist? Stop it.🤦♂️
It wasn't racist. He had massive facial reconstruction. It was genuinely weird.
Jealous
@@EchoBravo370 it was still rude
Those haters 😡
She wasn't his girlfriend, I'm sure he really liked her, but if he loved her that much, he would have contacted her and stayed in contact.
He was very shy, but also very stubborn. He would have found her and seen her if he wanted to.
Well down.
She didn't play her cards right. She should have let him chase her 100%. Shy guys never like to be pursued and will eventually run away if the girl is too aggressive. Lisa Marie Presley never chased after Michael. Same with the nanny lady who was by Michael's side during his remaining years helping him with his kids. Plus, Tatiana getting involved with Prince and having business dealings with MJ's dad didn't help. It made her come across as an opportunist/gold digger. What a shame. Michael yearned to find a lady in his life similar to his mom and the late Princess Diana.
@Katarina Björkqvist Ironically though, some of the young boys that Michael chose to be in his life ended up turning on him and milked MJ for millions of dollars in addition to almost sending him to prison. Had Tatiana ended up being MJ's bride, she may have ended up being a loyal and loving life partner to him...always looking out for him and having his back covered from all the lechers and "wicked" people as MJ's mom called them. Tragic how that one mistake of a kiss onstage that night may have altered the course of MJ's life.
@Luna EB Wrong. She was enough back then for him to bring her to his family home and introduce her to his parents. And MJ wanted to have her in his Dirty Diana mv too.
@Insider Anti Social Go watch the Michael Jackson womanizer videos here on TH-cam. He was on the groupie hunt in his later years before his death. "Fishing " and hooking up with hot fish is what MJ called it. How tragic.
She totally stole his style in that first interview. The embroidery on her clothes, the curly hair, the one curl in front of her forehead, the way she talks. She was definitely into him.
That is exactly what I was thinking. And then you have stupid people in the comments saying Michael wanted to look like her🤦🏾♂️
@@daryltracy7949 PLEEEEZE!! At that time EVERYONE was copying Michael. Especially his dance moves. His style was like no other.
@@jaleesatrevelyan1510 exactly, my brother use to work on a lot of his tour's .around that TIME everyone was coping him and George Michael .
@@toosweet1327 really? George Michael was copying Mike too. Damn, dude was powerful back then.
That was the style at that point for both men and women
I believe their feelings were genuine. The simple fact his mother wanted to spend time with her and opened up to her so earnestly was obvious. Unfortunately, the manager had all the control. It's a shame that not even his own mother could have a say so in his happiness.
It would have gotten out sooner or later she was with Prince before Michael and problems with the occur
She wrote a book stating she lied about their relationship in 93 😭
@@Nuggetsin4 What book?
@@heathermunoz6282 and it’s called “The Way He Made Me Feel”
well thats crazy untrue look at all of the women he was with but her ,,she was in love by herself
I believe she felt in love with him... I guess her pain of not being able to see him anymore or have a relationship with him and seeing him dying the way he did,devastated her and nobody has the right to tell her how much or how long she should talk about it, It is her story and she have the right to tell it the way to see fit.
I concur! ❤️
@Maja Majkowska we know that but they were great friends i understand why she was hurt
❤️
She ain’t see him die nothing lol. And he was killed. He entertained the world and for the powers that be for about 42 years and still didn’t enjoy his life after. I just hope now he is finally resting and happy.
She may have a story but it sounds one sided and may have crushed on him but I don't think there was involvement more in her mind verses reality...and she was fired by his managers management for kissing him on stage. He didnt exactly bring her back stop that what his management did. He didn't call her to rectify it if he wanted her there..
she was not his girlfriend she only met him during rehearsals and for the videos.
She also joined Michael during “TWYMMF” performances in very early 1988 shows (two Kansas City concerts and first New York show, where she kissed him and later was fired from tour due to this kiss)
He also invited her to the leave me alone video to hang out. There’s pics of them hugging 🤗
They spent time together, I had seen plenty pictures. Also MJ say "I was with Tatiana" when asked about girlfriends/dating. This is in one the MJ tape recorded conversations. All here in YT.
EXACTLY
SHE WANTED TO BE WHO WOUKDNT WANT TO BE IN THOSE DAYS. SHE REALLY DID LOVE HIM.
Wow she has aged so well. Still looks stunning.
I hope I dont age ' that well '
@@slavbrav69 you wont trust me
It does happen, when you have a huge crush on someone, anything they do makes you over think it and imagine it to be something else, especially when even his/her family see you as a potential partner but when he doesn't make the first move there is nothing you can do, you can't force it
@hope21 His great shyness surely! you are going to tell me that he had to overcome his fear to play comedy, to be an actor, dancer & singer but it's not the same when you have to admit to someone that you love them but that you do not know if he loves you in return as you love him! And then, after the professional and media entourage must have stuffed his head so much that he had to withdraw and focus more on himself, not knowing what to do with this situation ...
What’s wrong with a woman making the first move 🤔
I don't think NONE of the conversations with his mom ever happened. I think SHE thinks they happened and im sure her and Kathrine shared small talk but it seems she heard what she wanted to hear and read deeper meanings into things that were never actually said. Like Katherine probably said "you two have great chemistry on stage, Michael loves working with you" and in her head she heard Katherine say "my son is passionately in love with you I think you're his soulmate" The people in the production probably warned her "hey...you're pushing it, you might not want to keep doing that" and in her head she's thinking..."yep....everybody wants me to make a move" The BAD tour was like a HUGE production..2 to 3 hour concert 20+ songs and costume changes... her involvement was 4 minutes during that one song where all she had to do was sashay across the stage in a mini skirt while MJ did his thing. And when she crossed the line MJ had her thrown off the tour.
@@davidgerald133 "I think", "probably"... Again, all your great reasons are your thougts
That's the thing people can't choose and poopoo is right for somebody if Michael Jackson was that interested in her he would have told her he wasn't in love with the other woman he wanted was Diana Ross
Michael left a big impact on every girl that he had feelings for her. All of them become obssesed
Lol
Lol can't blame them
@@LilianNeves7 the fame was the pulling force
@@TitusJoseph you're generalizing...
Michael loves women and respected them but just because attractive women come across his life or in his videos doesn't mean he is in love with them again people do anything just to be famous and be close to people that are celebrities such as Michael they did not have no relationship
It broke my heart when she was crying talking about how she misses him 😭😭😭
The entire freaking world including me misses Michael!! So yeah
um. she went to michaels memorial, even after not seeing for 20 years. they didnt keep in contact.
@@najahwajah dude do you know that Michael found love multiple times during those twenty years she would get in so much trouble if they did
@@ghaydaaalfatimi6575 if Michael loved her so much then he would've kept contact with her tho. Any MJ fan knows how much Michael wanted love and to settle down and start a family.
@@najahwajah ugh I hate how y’all keep saying the same old “if Michael liked her he would’ve got her back” like think of something else god 🙄
with all the pain that we saw from all the people being asked about MJ died we can really felt that he was really an amazing one to be loved..
She would be his natural mate. The healthiness of their chemistry drove the cult around him nuts. They knew she was going to be the best choice for him. That she would make him less vulnerable for them to exploit. Such a pity he was insecure due to his childhood trauma and let her go with no fight.
Say what you want but... they could have been an awesome couple.
Yes!❤️
Fr they hating in the comments they would’ve been wayyy better than Lisa 🌝
Yes
Certainly seems like they had no relationship. She seems nice enough, I would imagine his mother would have encouraged them. But basically there was nothing going on between them.
Yes 🔥
she wasn’t his girlfriend but they liked each other
@Aisha Mohamed he did!
@Aisha Mohamed think what you wan't
@Aisha Mohamed he was a very shy Human!
@Dessy Bieber-Jackson I think that’s one of the main reasons him and Madonna didn’t work out I feel like they were perfect for eachother but met at the wrong time she was still immature and made it a point to him that things would be her way a big complaint ppl had about her back then was that she was mean Cher even said that’s why she didn’t like her Mj didn’t like Mean ppl also and called her a witch crazy because after his death she turned out to be one of the few from his time that actually supported him and never slandered his name in the public even now after that movie came out about him she still had never slandered his name
@@ginger7793 you think what you want dumb punk
I admire Tattiana for being so honest about her feelings. They're the most perfect pair. She's just like a normal fan who adores and desires the Icon so much. Same like with the other girls who fancied him a lot.
@Jarred Knox Obsessed fan? Most of obsessed fan becomes their partners in life. I just said so that their matched for each other becoz of the same color and culture. The girl is pretty and really matches with Michael's physical appearance. Compared with his blonde ex-wives.
@@justiceempire1170 that’s not what Michael love in women. He likes women who love him for him. Tatiana likes him as this big super star Michael Jackson not for him, As you said she’s an obsessed fan.that’s why he never spoke to her again. That was his choice
@Jarred Knox Do not deny the fact that Michael once fancied her. Whether u accept it or not, Michael did liked her. And among all the Black Girls, she's the prettiest during her time, regardless of her ulterior motives which we have no business anymore.
@@livevideos4546 She never was allowed to spoke to her becoz she connived with Michael's Dad about her own motives. That is why she was forbidden to see Michael and not on Michael's own will of not seeing her.
@@justiceempire1170 Tatiana was not the prettiest. Have you seen Whitney. He dated her for a while. She was the true definition of black girl beauty and she was talented asf.Tatiana is just known for being in Michael Jackson’s music video period
I’m sorry, but if he was REALLY interested in her, he would go after it… he did what he wanted the whole time he was alive, regardless what others thought of him…
She sounded like a fan who spent a week with him.
Right
💯
True!! it didnt help that the mother was telling her that Micheal loved her I think they was just telling her that to make her feel comfortable with him on stage 🥴
She does!
All that c**
This is sad. She went from being on top of the world to being pretty much banished over something that she asked for and received permission to do. What baffles me is why Michael didn't defend her to his camp. Hang in there, Tatiana.
He had no control over his handlers he was scared he told his therapist this and she saved the audio
@Joel Johnson, ok, then according to this video Tatiana asked MJ if it was ok to kiss him on the lips and she claimed he said yes🤔
@@kdm4748 idk she lied a lot about Michael and her so its really hard to believe she got permission
@@usedname2491 her mouth got her into a lot of trouble. Then again. Michael should have had a meeting with her to explain why he felt the way he did and what she did to offend him
And Michael had a hard time saying NO to ppl. No was the hardest word he could ever say to anyone because of his heart but A simple NO could’ve saved him or helped him in a lot of situations.. he was just too nice & a sweetheart 🤷🏽♀️
Tatiana & Michael just looked(& seemed)so *perfect* together. She seems like a sweetheart & again...she & Michael looked like a "match made in heaven"! I wonder...had they became an item, if Michael would...still be with us?
it's hard to say. many wonderful people entered his life but his management always seemed to keep them at arm's length. the fact that he started so young probably conditioned him to believe them when they said that his career was more important than his actual life. :( he deserved better.
All them girls be like "she was not his girlfriend!"...she was closer to him than ya'll ever be..
i mean duh. he is dead...
@@najahwajah tf that have to do with what she just said??
@@A11urings0ul i can't be close to someone who passed away when i was 5...
@@najahwajah lol
Funny*
She was NOT his girlfriend.
She never pretended that. She just like pretending they could, which is her own right.
@@antonmk1244 Well down !!!
@@antonmk1244 hahahahahaha
EXACTLY
@@antonmk1244 Fax
If michael jackson said to a girl "i like you" he's automatically got her
Right
Eso es correcto es verdad
She even said, he never told her he loved her. He told everyone else, but not her. She kissed him once and then was fired from the tour. He didn't reach out to her. She was done. That's a relationship?!! Please.
I vaguely remember her from Michael's "The Way You Make Me Feel" video. She was gorgeous back then, and she still is now.
I feel really bad for her. They probably were in love with her but it clearly didn't last that long. She is so gorgeous, it's sad that after many years she hadn't found that feeling with anyone else even til the day he died she took it so hard. I hope she has found the love she deserves now.
I think it's bc that stupid manager cut them off
It's sad. I feel like it happened to me and never met him.
Tudo Por Falta De Comunicação Pq Ela Sabendo Que Ele A Amava Não Disse Que Também Amava Ele?? Eu Teria Feito Assim, Ainda Mais Depois De Um Beijo!!
The last time they spoke was in 1991
@@truthhurtz8517 source?
My heart broke when all the hate began towards her🥺 my heart exploded by how cuteness when she explained when she went to speak to michael. I was smiling so big because it was so cute to me💜💜💜
Whoever put this video together,
Did a great job 👏
Hes a perfectionist you never switch up a perfectionist routine on stage that's why you got fired if he wanted to talk to you he would have.
Facts!!
She just simply read too much into their, "On stage chemistry".
He was influenced not to work with her no more by those vampires he was surrounded by,once he met someone he fell in love with they felt threatened their extras would cut off and he was naieve to see it.Thats where he went wrong,he should set his boundaries and made it clear that he wanted no advise from them about his personal relationship, I think he would be better off going to his mom for advice with things to do with his heart. Too many people influenced his life and just a handful had his back, we are sorry for his demise but I'm wondering what those vampires are doing now , must be in his grave still trying to leach off him .
@@magdelenemcfadden1493 so true he was kind and extremely talented but lack worldly sense and people sense and they new it...if he wasn't so blasted cage up by his father in younger days he would have had people sense to figer out there negative energy and fire them for it.
A Michael en ese momento no le interesaban las mujeres solo su carrera además Tatiana se ilusiono por nada ya que Michael jamás hubiera tenido algo enserio menos con ella
Yes..... Michael was never free because of his so-called handlers.
Greedy handlers. They hold MJ in the neck.
Truth! His handlers were horrific mob mafia greedy people. They made it look like he wasn't into women on purpose to paint out a false narrative. It was all an agenda but Michael couldn't control because his manager was a dangerous boss. His parents couldn't even get between those handlers I wish the truth would come out about his handlers n how his father gave him to the industry
@@beb5407 This is interesting. It sounds like a sad situation. Poor Michael Jackson he was controlled by people who didn't have his best interests at heart. The handlers made money and used him. It is so tragic and sad.
he was a grown man
Yep. They were his handlers
Wow, she's so gracious. She would have been so good for him, and his handlers knew that. That's why they didn't want her around. What a shame.😔
Devils playground
Michael was like a Korean popstar in the late 90s that is not allowed to have a gf.. just like the k-pop nowadays
This is the one girl that could have saved MJ.
Sadly, MJ needed to save himself first for that to happen.
😥You almost got it
I cried alot , Tatiana was a genuine girl and Michael was a pure soul. They would Always be together.
This seems more like an obsession rather than love
Nah it’s just you projecting + the other sheep in the comments who can’t think for themselves 🐑
Absolutely agree
I mean..if michael loved her he should've done something to keep in touch w her but he didnt.. he distanced himself from her and if Katherine liked Tatiana for him maybe because she supports michael cus he's been longing to have a relationship too..mothers are supportive so that makes sense why Katherine told Tatiana that he liker her
i liked Tatiana for michael tbh they look so good together tatiana looked like a female version of him but ig she was just an obsessed fan
How when he liked her too?
I know this situation from my own personal experience. Do not discredit this woman. She had a "connection experience", I see it as genuine. Do not judge her but allow her to cherish her connection. It is so seldom that we connect on a deeper level. Unconditional love has no expectations.
❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
If he was Joe Blow, no one would care. 😂People connect on a deep level all the time.
Well said 💓
I still have my After Party Pass and autograph of the Thriller tour in Dallas. Michael was a sweet soul.
Love tatiana and had a chance to speak with her multiple times when she was on social media. Very sweet and down to earth. One thing I acknowledge is that shes a woman of God and she dodged a bullet for not staying in such a wicked industry! She lived a normal life and stayed away from those snakes who tried to tear her down
is she still on social media? and what is her name on it if she does have it
@@abdullahshaibu2193 not anymore due to health issues and haters. I heard from someone that knows a friend of hers that she's working in a museum now and probably won't return to social media and won't associate herself with any MJ projects. She's still close to the Jacksons though
@@jj-xl5ud Thank you for the information. I think this woman is obviously lovely in many ways and she's so right to protect herself! If you get a chance, don't hesitate to convey to her that even as the female teenager that I was back then, I thought she stood out in that video when it was released; her graceful aura and beauty were that inspiring, and their chemistry was a delight to watch, too! I don't know how Michael could have resisted loving her, honestly! Sadly, he worked in a horribly toxic and dangerous business that seems to have to destroy pure souls.
They might of had a connection and a mutual attraction but she wasn't his official girlfriend. I could be wrong but I believe if he really wanted her he would have pursued her no matter what.
The forbidden kiss 🥺 Michael’s management was evil smh.
Michael Jackson was the one who fired her. I’m sorry but I’m sure Michael loved her but he didn’t love her “that much”
@@anniesaysmith8095 Michael never fired her frank did cuz if u was listening to wat she said in her interview was that she asked Michael if it was ok to take it ah step further an he told her yes even tho frank told her no Michael told her yes an I don’t think Michael Issa spiteful person to tell someone to do something an den fire them for it after no hes nt like dat frank fired her.
@@naiomiburnette9533 that’s what she said not what Michael said, it was Michael who fired her, accept it. Frank didn’t make the calls that time michael did. things changed after that.
But what if his manager told him a different story to make him forget her? For example, imagine if he told him "She decided to quit" or something like that so he would think she didn't want to be around anymore. I highly see that happening, the entertainment industry is full of snakes and manipulation
@@anniesaysmith8095 if you think he was that shy in person and he suddenly got brave and fire a girl that he was in love with.. hmm come on, it was the manager that saw what was happening and protected his asset - Michael .. to be single is profits $$$$ who don't know that! to keep him single even better...it would make sense to make up something bad about her and tell him so he will lose interest! Michael was immature about bad people and evil characters that probably made him easy to be trick....just saying!!
I'm willing to bet Michael was the driving force behind her being asked to leave. Otherwise, he would have reached out to her or later ask her to come in when Ricky Shroeder did. He may have liked her, but she was not discrete (on- nor off-stage - I bet that was her downfall). And I don't like some later comments she made.
She has a very interesting definition of what being in love is. She seems to mistake infatuation for genuine love. At best, by her own descriptiion, it sound like all they shared was brief, mutual attraction. I feel bad that she took mistook that as some kind of real relationship.
Michael Jackson was not a psychologically healthy human being. How could he have been with the controlling, exploitative, perfectionistic father he had.
I mean she was there though. It's easy to say what it is or isn't from the outside. She sounds Like she never got closure
"Smacko Jacko" I hate the media...
Me too, 👍😡😡
I hate them too...and about your profile picture - Rest in peace Chadwick😔
tabloid junkie
@@Enjoy-the. right, 💯💯💯💯Michael Jackson, all the life
I remember “Wacko Jacko” smh so terrible
They didn’t even date
@Luna EB hold up wym 'thotiana'
Who gives a damn. Date is just a word. Hanging out/Quality time together is good enough.
This woman seems like an obsessive nut!!!
@@ginean0093 i mean we never spent time with him so like how would u know you wouldnt act the same?
@@choicethetaurus I'm not that thirsty
I feel so sorry for Michael. Money and fame don’t bring happiness and he had a lot of bad things happen to him. Life dealt him such unfair cards.
I remember her being in his video, but her infatuation and her kissing him is why she was let go.
Lol former Girlfriend 🤦♀️🤣. Tatiana was not his Girlfriend Periodt!!!!
Exactly.
@@RandomBlackGamer ayyyy RBG wassup bro!
She is dreaming
@@DuranSarah Fr tho😂
@REGIMENT65 Wow Daddyyyy has commented under my comment section 😃
They looked really good together, it's such a shame he deserved to have his soul mate, she's an incredibly beautiful lady she has such poise and grace, she and Michael have very similar personalities, I think she would have really nurtured him and been a ride or die, it's really unfortunate that they didn't actually get together as husband and wife even Katherine liked her. I'll never understand why Michael took the route he took and I wish he were still here.
When a guy's mother likes a woman that he brings home or introduces to his parents you know she's a keeper!!!
she aint have no grace or poise...look how she ran and did interviews. if she had poise and grace she would have stfu and enjoyed their relationship behind closed doors.
You will be seeing him alive (among others!) very soon!!!
What makes you say that???
@@juanitamorgan5475 if you're talking about my comment, then what i mean is, if she had grace and poise, she wouldn't have went and disclosed things about their obviously "private relationship" if its real. Because obviously if they actually were together "18 months" Michael wanted the relationship to be private.
The managers obviously didn’t want her working with him anymore because they saw her as a distraction to Michael. They didn’t want anyone or anything getting in the way of Michael’s career and that’s just sad. I would bet through the remainder of his life, Michael thought of Tattiana often. The potential of what they could have been. So sad.
MJ is known for his insane eye for detail in ALL his performances!
EVERY SINGLE MOVE and WORD is rehearsed to a tee!
There is NO WAY that ANY manager would be able to overrule him about this case!
There is a commercial aspect that plays a huge part in their chemistry on stage, so that would definitely be used for what it was.
The audience loved every second of them performing together, so there wouldn’t be a reason to end it.
The audience also loved that kiss, so the same applies here.
It is way more likely that MJ did NOT appreciate all her little press talks, where she would be talking about HIS FEELINGS … something he didn’t even do himself !!
So I doubt the actual kiss itself was the dealbreaker. Her attitude becoming problematic is WAY MORE LIKELY to be the reason for ending this (work!) relationship.
And if they REALLY were as close as she says they were, then she would 100% have known his desire to keep certain things private.
She either was oblivious of this fact OR she disregarded it.
Both are NOT a sign of this ‘closeness’, this ‘soulmate’ kind of relationship she describes.
They are , in fact, the exact OPPOSITE of that and show a disrespect towards MJ’s wishes that is plain UGLY!
I think she genuinely loved Michael 🥺💔
Just like 99% of the entire world by that time. =3 (Just joking around). Anyways, this girl never got close to being his girlfriends according to this video, it's just a mislead of a title to gain views.
I think she was in love with the idea of him. Two very different things.
We cannot deny the attraction between them but unfortunately nothing predisposed that there was a story between them. She was (and this is quite normal) touched in the depths of her heart and her soul and that is the worst because she couldn't move on and built her life. We will never know why he didn't call her to talk to her? I hope she found peace and serenity 😑😑😑
My thoughts exactly.
oh yeah he was such a ladies man.
Tatiana is adorable like a doll full of life..and how she blushes out of excitement at 2.47
And as she describes what led to the onstage kiss on tour at 3.25..I always felt she makes a great pair or even the best for Michael..❤ ..they had such a steaming Chemistry.. am proud she calls the place where I live her home..respect her honesty and heartbreaking to see her cry of hurt ..the last segment where she mourns and misses Michael … hit me like a truck 😢
I can see she really loves Michael and his mother knew this from the first moment. I feel so bad for this woman. REALLY. I WISH HERE THE BEST. Vlasta Leistikow
I can only imagine what she went through after she found out he died... I was depressed about his death for an entire year and I had never even met him... so I get it.
People are saddened by the loss of a close family member or friend. Fans of MJ & others can be saddened by the loss as we appreciated what they contributed but to be depressed for over a year? You didn't personally know him? That's illogical.
@@sandradee1579 You obviously misread what I wrote... I said I was depressed "about his death"... I didn't say I lived my life as a depressed person for an entire year! Two different things!😆
@@Up-To-Speed reread your comment. You did say you were depressed for a year after MJ death. You never knew him?
If MJ married her he would be stil with us they look great togther ❤💘. She really loved him 😥💔
yea, no. no woman, no "great love" can save a man from himself.
Why the hell did she KISS HIM ON THE LIPS ON STAGE??? That was a cheap move.
@@fessellsahmed2587 MJ was being flirtatious with her during the performance so she caved. Who can blame her? What a shame how things turned out for her. On another note, MJ'S kids were meant to be born and have a look how they are turning out now as adults. He had nannies but for the most part he was a single parent doing an amazing job. Compare Prince, Paris and Blanket to say kids like Cindy Crawford's kids or Lori Loughlin's daughters and clearly MJ did not raise his children to grow up to be assholes taking up space in this world.
@Mizzy Asruf
I totally concur. They would’ve made a great couple💞
@@applelake5940 Its a song and video. Flirtatious? She was told by his crew NOT to kiss MJ. She was fired the next day. It was a dance thats all. MJ was copying the dance on stage. In the end he ended up marrying two white women, having 3 white kids none of which may contain his DNA and he may not be the donor and turning white and having an insanely small nose after non essential plastic surgery.
Thank You For Sharing Words of True Love Straight From Your Heart Spoken Out Loud On Michael's Behalf💖✨May God Bless You For This!
She was a living doll. Happy they had their moment.
Agree it was a moment & she had hers in that video. MJ always said he really liked Brooke Shields. I think she friend zoned him.
She did love him but his “people” shut out a lot of people including some of his family members. They even said that publicly,,, they wanted to control everything around him,,, out of their own selfishness and greed.
Ture ❤
Frank Fat Ass. Kept a lot of people from him. Trying to keep his sexuality ambiguous. Said fans would not like that he has a girlfriend.
If Michael wanted to be with her he would have.
@@ciciriddick but the greedy people surround MJ did not let it happen. They don't like the money slip away from these greedy people.
@@edithastamaria1994 Everyone around him worked for him. Meaning they were his employees... If he wanted to do something like being with her, he would have.
I hope she finds some peace
Soooo she literally doesn’t age though, does she?
She wasn't but in her mind it seems like she was
This is who Michael ought to have stayed with. It's clear she really and truly loved Michael, and even as time passed, an this other wives left him, she kept defending Michael from the shadows, still cries over him. Michael was just under the control of bad actor handlers.
tbh she seemed too starstruck to actually have a real bond with him. he was a superstar to her and she admired him, as we all do, but growing to really love him for who he was as a person? i doubt it
If they had a kid together. The kid would definitely be the next Michael Jackson in singing and dancing.
I think that if Michael gave her a second chance maybe he would have been a lot happier not only with the world but especially with himself, maybe he would not have died this early. She is really sweet and caring just like he was, shame they have never been a couple
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Second chance? For doing what…kissing him. It seems like at that point it would be her giving him a second chance for rejection but apparently maybe after they kissed it didn’t do it for him and he didn’t feel same as she did
I think that if he wanted to keep her on the tour he would've kept her on tour. MJ went through alot in life, was preyed upon and sometimes manipulated emotionally...but he was in control of is ART. His crew knew she made him feel uncomfortable. That's why she was quickly removed. I don't believe a word she's saying. Maybe she's obsessed, money hungry, clout chasing???🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️... But I do know that he was an adult and the meal ticket for everyone involved. Basically, whatever he said was law. Like so many other things he set his mind to and attained in life...if he wanted her, he could've and most likely would've had her.
That’s actually true nothing stopped him from dating other women or marrying Lisa
right a man will be in the place he wants to be and he ran ..he didnt like the fact she kissed him because he liked someone else and that someone else got upset ..So he let her go...case closed
Right!
@@whattheheck9641 who the someone that got upset?
If he loved her he definitely wouldn’t have let his manager fire her for kissing him. Sometimes shy ppl will lie and tell you it’s not a problem when it really is.
Love always makes a way. If he really loved her, he would’ve made it happen with her. Michael got what he wanted when he wanted it and if he’d wanted her, he would’ve facilitated it. I’m sure his people had some influence, but not complete control
I agree, it is a shame though he didn't, as he could of had a Beautiful Family life of his own, he didn't get that in Life, as completed, beside Fame to Living A Lonely Life, before he Died.
Very very Sad.
AGREE ❤
I agree. Elvis had controlling handlers but he still married Cilla'.
Didn't y'all already post a video like this. And how many times do we have to say it, SHE WASN'T HIS GIRLFRIEND
This is the 3rd video they posted about this looney tune. Enough is enough, she was an OBSESSED FAN.
Clickbate probably lol 💀💀
It's in the description lol
Okay...I have a new revelation...a truly original thought: She wasnt even his Girlfriend.....bet you never heard that one before, right?
Lolz
I’m addicted to these videos
Actions speak louder then words if he loved her and wanted her he would have
They definitely had an attraction! And he let too many influence him they would have looked great together
She was not his girlfriend. She was in one video, and on one tour for one show and then was fired. Never seeing Michael or talking to him again. Wishful thinking and she only dreaming she was his girlfriend
@Karen Costner correction: she was in 3 shows of Bad Tour (two Kansas City shows and first New York show, where she kissed MJ and later was fired from the tour due to this kiss)
@Marco Zanatta huh...
Girl shut up! Hell she would’ve had hella more chances than yo ass shit foh don’t hate! Hell u dreamin too 🤣🤣🤣
@100% Chitarra elettrica WHAT ????
Youre such a hater karen
That song is still my favorite song of all time because of her😍
a very immature guy and a naive young girl at the time. he played with her emotions yet years later she should have grown up
She's delusional, but I can't blame her )
😂😂😂
Me neither lol
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He was that nigga lol. The original papi chulo 😸🤴🏾
same lol
Wow.... my heart actually aches for her.... that’s a closure she’ll have to live without.
This lady was his soulmate. They were suppose to be together unfortunately it didn't work out because of the wrong people. That's why she can still feel his soul.
She looks like his beloved family. Very beautiful model.
No. Michael called someone else his soulmate unfortunately. Not her. Plus, if MJ really considered someone as his soulmate, then he would have pursued her or atleast be receptive to her calls after the kissing incident.
Tatiana was very popular in the 80s
She was the "video IT girl". Anyway I wish her well.
Good to know someone really loved him in that way and that he fell in love no matter how brief . She is a lovely woman and he deserved someone sweet like her ♥️
WOW.... I didn’t know this happened 😢. You guys look so good together too! 😭. Such a beautiful lady too!
Everyone that knew him in real life speaks highly of him, this says more of him than the tabloid stories.
They would have made a great couple I think. She seems like such a sweet person.
Girl you barely kissed him, he turned his face inmediatly
@Aisha Mohamed absolutely
He wasnt expecting a kiss on the lips and she was fired then next day. MJ took her to see his mum as he liked her. The song was the way you make me feel. No one kisses on stage on the lips. The day before she kissed him on the cheeks. I guess MJ felt she made a bad move and was moving too fast. If a girl kissed me on the lips I would think she is a gold digger.
@Aisha Mohamed Only married people kiss each other on the lips and in private. Not on stage in front of 80,000 people.
@@fessellsahmed2587 man shut up lol all kinds of people kiss on the lips.
@@LizNeptune Public show of affection are generally frowned upon. Hence she got fired.
He wasn’t going to date a fan. She was too enamored with him; look how she talks about him.
Have you read her book? My word!
These memories will stay with her forever. So deeply ingrained in her, it beautiful and a special… that kiss that chemistry
Aww how sad but so true. people take along time to wake up spiritually and know the person who was meant for them was there all along.
Tatiana because of your story,you are keeping MJ a live.....thanks to you ,we the fans continue to live his legacy
For everyone wondering why this video is up another time, it's said in the description that there were some copyright issues that needed to be sorted out.
You never dated him you had a crush on him but he did not want you.
Just because he went out with you about two things like he did everyone else does not mean y'all was dating.
Michael was so big that people that took a picture with him swear to God they knew him personally. It was strictly business
wth
Nah. I remember one of his coworkers mentioned her name and he let out a loud sigh and didn’t want to talk about her a decade later. In the 2000s it was said that he regretted not marrying her. She was invited to the private funeral of Michael by Katherine herself
the reality is if Michael was into her he'd pursue her. I'm sure managers can meddle but Michael would get his way in the end.
... we have all be deeply wounded especially when young ... but to hold onto what happened for decades is insane!
Right. Thats show that she is obsesive. Thats non normal
Yeah. if he loved her he would have kept her around.
Umm she wasn’t his girlfriend but okay. Now I’m starting to think she’s just using Mike’s name for publicity.
N'importe quoi ! Vous la connaissez personnellement ?
Get out of here - I see the complete opposite.
If they loved each other why did Tatiana went to these interviews and talk like she's missing michael and wants to be w him.. If they dated they would wanna be in a privacy but she didn't..michael distanced himself from her that makes so much sense right?
She wrote a bunch of lies against Michael in her book too as a form of revenge against him and for money and attention. The book was released around the same time as the 2005 trial.
I was his fiancé for 20 minutes back in 1996. He dumped me for Debbie. I think I’m gonna contact Dan Rather so we can talk this out. I deserve to be heard too. 🙄
Oh wait....sorry my meds wore off.
I was always sort of confused when it came to their relationship. I heard that joe Jackson wrote in his book that Michael admitted to being in love with her plus Michael invited her behind the scenes of a vid and on the tour so I’m guessing he had feelings for her and we saw her in pictures with his family