I absolutely LOVE your tutorials. They're incredibly informative, and you clearly show your knowledge of what it is you work with and love doing. Kudos!
Awesome, I can think of many instruments and other applications for this. It seems to be unlimited. Definitely for the Sonic Artist or the highly creative person. Go Moog!
With this, the monster will be complete! '59 Hammond B3 in a '36 A body (baby b) with removable original legs. Restored mechanically with 2 channel midi added to lower manual. Now the Slim phatty will be added along with mac mini running pianoteq and all played on the amazing restored hammond action! All of this in one "convenient" package. I cant freakin wait to get this project done!!
awesome review. I picked up the SF about three weeks ago.. I didn't realize the master section has the innumerable possibilities ! Thanks for the tips !!! :)
White noise is very useful, you use it for percussion sounds when you don't want them to have their own fundamental as well as adding a little white noise to add a bit of high end sizzle to waveforms. It sounds great in small amounts here to make the waveform buzzier, phatter or a bit vintage sounding. It's because of its frequency content.
Most wind and breath-sounding patches typically use a noise generator, it's useful for certain ambient effects (like waves crashing on a beach, perhaps).
Also the software costs 75 dollars, and it's a little janky. Turning knobs quickly lags out on my computer with the VST, and you have what seems like higher resolution control on the actual physical knobs. It can be nice for designing patches just, generally though, for example if you are wanting to sit down and make a small sound bank for yourself.
@sonicstate I noticed that quite a few times when switching parameters you had to turn the knob all the way back to where it was to affect a change. Is it anymore responsive now with new OS upgrades?
is this synth fully sequenceable in a DAW via USB like the Minitaur, for sequencing notes and filter from a computer. Does it bring a software like the minitaur ??? great review
no white noise as an oscillator source? I m sorry I just don t get why this is important.why would I want an oscillator to look like a white noise? we usually use saw, square.. etc as oscilator source since it is very dinstinctive.. a white noise would like crush everything instantly wouldn t it? Or did you mean the is no modulation possible on the white noise? Love your reviews you re the best really. I m probably just lost here I just didn t understand what you meant.. thanks
great review as always. Quick question - in arpeggiator mode, does it display the numeric value of the tempo? Also, is it possible to tap tempo for the arpeggiator (like it does for the LFO rate)? Thanks!
I know this is possibly the most stupid question ever, but I'm completely new to analog synths. Could I control this via midi? Or via CV? Or just via moog synths? Thanks so much!
@MrEvanbooker You can set it to be several modes, I forget what they call them, I no longer have the unit here. But one is where you have to ravel through the programmed value to pick up any changes (which was what you saw there) there is another which just starts wherever the knob is and starts working and I think one other mode.
it depends on what are you suggesting If you want to use your guitar as sound controller(MIDI) for this moog slim phatty then yes: but you might need another gear(something like sonuus G2M,google it)to transcode your guitar into MIDI signal before further connecting into this slim phatty
Does the Taurus pedals provide much better bass? If it does why didn't they use the same electronics as the Taurus for the Phatty? Not everyone can play with their feet.
I have a question though. I have 600 pounds for a synth. do you think it is better to buy a tetra or a nord lead rack (specially because they are polyphonic which is a feature I would love to see in moog products) or is it still better to you to buy a Slim Phatty because of its unique great analogu sound and filter..
You can also link these. Meaning for a reasonable cost you can make a two-voice, four-voice .... eight-voice synthesizer. 8-voice Moog for ...say $8k ... not really that bad. Maybe Moog / Retailers will come out with a special 'bulk buy' purchase plan. Saving me pennies .... to me the Phatty line is the new Minimoog. The Voyager is closer to the IIIC series.
Some people say that the Slim Phatty cant make strong basses like the Minitaur? is this true? How are the basses in the SP? is there a huge diference in bass (low freq) between them. thanks
sometimes when you use it in small amounts it can give a sound a little bit of grit. Its kind of like using a sub oscillator to beef up a sound white noise can add a little bit of a gritty sparkle to it. At least that's what i use it for. good question though
When I bought my slim, I thought I was going to be using it to be sequenced through my DAW. It does that... definitely. But trust me, you want to be using this in a more live capacity. Tuning is annoying but, just like you would tune your guitar, it's not too hard to get used to tuning it a bit manually by ear.
@myownservant That Arp that sells for 2k is 30 years old. A brand new one, made with the same parts, would not cost $2000. Oberheim just made a comeback... and they're selling their SEM for the same price as 30 years ago. Still using the same components. What's your opinion of the Andromeda and Prophet 08? How do they compare to the old polysynths? There are plenty of 100% analog products today, competatively priced and made by big companies and small ones.
I'm entering a competition where I might win one of these... damn why did i check out this review? i really, really want it now. I have an extremely cheap keyboard with a midi input n output... would I be able to link this up with it?
Unfortunately, the filter on this thing has nothing to do with the real Moog filter found on the Voyager or the original Minimoog. It has a very different character to it. That's not a bad thing. It's just not the typical Moog 24 db/oct ladder filter behavior. This one is much more aggressive and distorts quite easily, even without the "feedback to filter" trick. If you absolutely want that Moog filter done right, than go for a Voyager or any old Moog synths. If not, then this is ok, I guess.
I've only really needed noise sources for noise sweeps specifically, or to add some breathe to a supersaw-esque sound- which the Slim Phatty isn't going to generate anyways with two oscillators. I guess it could be useful for percussive elements, but the Phatty seems to already have that with it's melodic waves used creatively. But hey, more features would always be nice.
Oh, and when I am not touring, I make a cool $60.00 an hour cash at my convenience working on hammond gear...and there is NO shortage of that work. Life is good. Its amazing when you get everything you worked so hard for...and even more amazing to see bitter hacks try and attack because they simply couldnt pull it off. Good luck to you.
@drakeishfyre No I was not being sarcastic. I've only ever owned one moog and it did not have an arp so I like the idea of having one that does and incorporates more recent technology. Sorry if you think wanting desirable features is silly...
I think the first pronunciation of 'Moog' that you used is correct! Two letter Os and then a consonant are never pronounced non-phonetically, I'm sure. If it were pronounced the second way, it would be spelled 'Mogue' or Mouge' or Mowg' to rhyme with 'rogue'.
ohh all right I thought you were saying 'sound source' as a sound source that would modulate a destination. like a since wave source would change the destination pitch of a sound. I thought how can a white noise be usefull to modulate a pitch for example. But you meant sound source as basically 'A Sound'. You mean that there is actually no White noise Sound available in the module. Oh yes as you say.. that is a big omission
...cutoff and resonance on the same pot? ouch.... I was about to go off, but just did some research after writing that first line and see the phattys have a "pot mapping" feature, enabling assignment to anything. I still think having a dedicated resonance would be WAY more handy, letting you leave the rest of the pots to their respective functions, but it'll do in a pinch I guess. Without that feature I would have immediately dismissed the phattys.
God dammit… how many more moog demos am I gong to see where MIDI controllers are the main fucking component being used? I’m considering one if these and need to know if it works as an enhancement to a SUB 25, or any other hardware unit for that matter
God knows we'd all love a Moog synth, but given the philistines out there who would not know a real Moog sound from VST moog. What's the point in spending all that money? Maybe I'm wrong but only us older guys/gals get why they are great. Many good VSTs have infinitely more choice of sounds, especially for the modern tastes in productions. I know many of you want me burned at the stake, but honestly, are there enough fresh sounds to cater for the sonically hungry masses? (raise shields!)
@Ori0n1975 That Sucks man. I don't have much in the line of equipment, but I tend to get the Most out of it by working hard, & long on Experiments in Sound. You might like some of it you know. I put in an awful lot to make my music stand out, yet have much of the 60's, 70's, 80's in there mixed with Mellodrama, with emphasis on Dynamics! soundcloud com/kindle if you're interested. Do you make any Music?
@iv0luti0n The Andromeda, when released, was criticized for not being 'analog' enough, but when it got discontinued prices went up 50% and now people are sad about it's passing. There's this 'what have you done for me' lately attitude, and frankly it annoys me.
With my Moog filter....I can control the weather.
Nice review, convinced me to get a Slim Phatty a couple years ago and I've been enjoying it ever since :D
Bob said you can pronounce it either way!
I absolutely LOVE your tutorials. They're incredibly informative, and you clearly show your knowledge of what it is you work with and love doing. Kudos!
omg audio-in processing... that filter distortion is orgasmic. I'm sold on this one.
whatever dude that sounded like my laser toy guns when I was young
I say mooooooooog and I'm proud of it!
kassie2k4 i didn't think there was any other other way of saying it lol
Still sounds better than the Sub Phatty & Sub 37. Its s shame they went a tad digital with the interface, but this synth has an excellent tone to it.
Appreciate this perspective and insightful analysis, Mr. DooDoo Poop.
Best reviewer on TH-cam... Please can you do a Sonic Retrolab too looking at some golden oldie synths too?
Awesome, I can think of many instruments and other applications for this. It seems to be unlimited. Definitely for the Sonic Artist or the highly creative person. Go Moog!
With this, the monster will be complete! '59 Hammond B3 in a '36 A body (baby b) with removable original legs. Restored mechanically with 2 channel midi added to lower manual. Now the Slim phatty will be added along with mac mini running pianoteq and all played on the amazing restored hammond action! All of this in one "convenient" package. I cant freakin wait to get this project done!!
awesome review. I picked up the SF about three weeks ago.. I didn't realize the master section has the innumerable possibilities ! Thanks for the tips !!! :)
00:52 Special deluxe rotatey cakestand
lol
White noise is very useful, you use it for percussion sounds when you don't want them to have their own fundamental as well as adding a little white noise to add a bit of high end sizzle to waveforms. It sounds great in small amounts here to make the waveform buzzier, phatter or a bit vintage sounding. It's because of its frequency content.
is the moog slim phatty better than the arturia minibrute?
Fun to see this old stuff these days. :)
Most wind and breath-sounding patches typically use a noise generator, it's useful for certain ambient effects (like waves crashing on a beach, perhaps).
Also the software costs 75 dollars, and it's a little janky. Turning knobs quickly lags out on my computer with the VST, and you have what seems like higher resolution control on the actual physical knobs. It can be nice for designing patches just, generally though, for example if you are wanting to sit down and make a small sound bank for yourself.
@sonicstate I noticed that quite a few times when switching parameters you had to turn the knob all the way back to where it was to affect a change. Is it anymore responsive now with new OS upgrades?
is this synth fully sequenceable in a DAW via USB like the Minitaur, for sequencing notes and filter from a computer. Does it bring a software like the minitaur ??? great review
I'm curious, in the part of the video around 4:54 where you demonstrate the filter overdrive are you using just wave sounds or a preset sound?
no white noise as an oscillator source? I m sorry I just don t get why this is important.why would I want an oscillator to look like a white noise? we usually use saw, square.. etc as oscilator source since it is very dinstinctive.. a white noise would like crush everything instantly wouldn t it?
Or did you mean the is no modulation possible on the white noise?
Love your reviews you re the best really. I m probably just lost here I just didn t understand what you meant..
thanks
nice video, indeed! and what synthesizer do you use while playing keyboard??
Its monophonic, but I think you can chain them together if you have more than one for polyphonic playing.
I Swear..THIS is the only YT synth review that rattles my windows like they could explode!
great review as always. Quick question - in arpeggiator mode, does it display the numeric value of the tempo? Also, is it possible to tap tempo for the arpeggiator (like it does for the LFO rate)? Thanks!
I love that you have your Venom in the studio. :-D
Real great monosynths, they are so underrated. Sad most people think they are not good. I own 6 SPs they are super instruments.
why have one if you can have six? :)
So... You can t move cutoff freq and reso amount at the same time?...
Or is there a way to do it with an external controler ?
You can do it with an external controller i'm pretty sure
Why would you need to??
I know this is possibly the most stupid question ever, but I'm completely new to analog synths. Could I control this via midi? Or via CV? Or just via moog synths? Thanks so much!
@MrEvanbooker You can set it to be several modes, I forget what they call them, I no longer have the unit here. But one is where you have to ravel through the programmed value to pick up any changes (which was what you saw there) there is another which just starts wherever the knob is and starts working and I think one other mode.
I'm interested in this Moog -but also with the Spectralis 2 (different I know)
Have you done a review on the Spectralis 2 from Radikal Technolgies?
it depends on what are you suggesting
If you want to use your guitar as sound controller(MIDI) for this moog slim phatty then yes:
but you might need another gear(something like sonuus G2M,google it)to transcode your guitar into MIDI signal before further connecting into this slim phatty
Does the Taurus pedals provide much better bass? If it does why didn't they use the same electronics as the Taurus for the Phatty? Not everyone can play with their feet.
Great review as usual man!
I have a question though. I have 600 pounds for a synth. do you think it is better to buy a tetra or a nord lead rack (specially because they are polyphonic which is a feature I would love to see in moog products) or is it still better to you to buy a Slim Phatty because of its unique great analogu sound and filter..
You can also link these. Meaning for a reasonable cost you can make a two-voice, four-voice .... eight-voice synthesizer. 8-voice Moog for ...say $8k ... not really that bad. Maybe Moog / Retailers will come out with a special 'bulk buy' purchase plan. Saving me pennies .... to me the Phatty line is the new Minimoog. The Voyager is closer to the IIIC series.
and many years later you were almost spot on with price predictions for Moog One
How did you get that sound at 9:14?! it sounds AMAZING!
Josh Wilson i think that´s an external synth/e-piano sound processed with slim phatty´s filter plus overload
ohhhhhhh! so he just plugged it in to the slim phatty through the input or something?
He's using an M Audio Venom
yes the value of the arp is displayed but unsure of tap tempo as i'm a new owner of this fantastic "orgasmic moon cube" cheers matt
Some people say that the Slim Phatty cant make strong basses like the Minitaur? is this true? How are the basses in the SP? is there a huge diference in bass (low freq) between them. thanks
pablo bonnelly those are probably the ones that can’t afford a slim patty 😂
man i don't think i could do all the menus and hidden features. i love the sound but this video confused me more than it made me want one
honestly thats the way a lot of moogs go. i am loving my subsequent but after afew months im still learning new hidden functions from the manual.
Moog Slim Phatty vs ??? which would you choose for a rack of similar price?
sometimes when you use it in small amounts it can give a sound a little bit of grit. Its kind of like using a sub oscillator to beef up a sound white noise can add a little bit of a gritty sparkle to it. At least that's what i use it for. good question though
When I bought my slim, I thought I was going to be using it to be sequenced through my DAW. It does that... definitely. But trust me, you want to be using this in a more live capacity. Tuning is annoying but, just like you would tune your guitar, it's not too hard to get used to tuning it a bit manually by ear.
This guy is a great reviewer, and a great musician.
What do use to control it? Do you have to have an actual keyboard or can I just use a MIDI or USB keyboard?
What was the drum beat coming from? was it a drum machine?
@myownservant That Arp that sells for 2k is 30 years old. A brand new one, made with the same parts, would not cost $2000.
Oberheim just made a comeback... and they're selling their SEM for the same price as 30 years ago. Still using the same components.
What's your opinion of the Andromeda and Prophet 08? How do they compare to the old polysynths?
There are plenty of 100% analog products today, competatively priced and made by big companies and small ones.
since it seems to be fairly digital, can you change the control voltages, to make it euro compatible?
I'm entering a competition where I might win one of these... damn why did i check out this review? i really, really want it now. I have an extremely cheap keyboard with a midi input n output... would I be able to link this up with it?
Does anyone knows which sound it is in 8:40 ? Is it a preset in slim phatty?
@sonicstate Sorry. Is there filter tracking?
Great review, thanks for this!
@jiberies White noise is a very useful sound source. Just seems like quite an omission to me.
Unfortunately, the filter on this thing has nothing to do with the real Moog filter found on the Voyager or the original Minimoog. It has a very different character to it. That's not a bad thing. It's just not the typical Moog 24 db/oct ladder filter behavior. This one is much more aggressive and distorts quite easily, even without the "feedback to filter" trick. If you absolutely want that Moog filter done right, than go for a Voyager or any old Moog synths. If not, then this is ok, I guess.
Thank you for this great review
Not enough knobs and pots for me. I will have to go for Sub Phatty or Sub 37 maybe?
Paphun Dekel Slim phatty is much better.
Is the filter 24db? And not switchable to 12db?
I've only really needed noise sources for noise sweeps specifically, or to add some breathe to a supersaw-esque sound- which the Slim Phatty isn't going to generate anyways with two oscillators.
I guess it could be useful for percussive elements, but the Phatty seems to already have that with it's melodic waves used creatively.
But hey, more features would always be nice.
@jiberies It can be very interesting. Why less Sounds, if u could have something "unusual" to experiment with ?
Your Demos are always the best. Thanks. I also cant get out of the habit of pronouncing moog wrong :-)
This will probably not break anytime soon. It's professional-grade gear, and it's pretty much made to stand up to any damage it gets on tour.
Very good review!
how does this compare with the dave smith mopho
thank you ! great review !!!!!
Oh, and when I am not touring, I make a cool $60.00 an hour cash at my convenience working on hammond gear...and there is NO shortage of that work. Life is good. Its amazing when you get everything you worked so hard for...and even more amazing to see bitter hacks try and attack because they simply couldnt pull it off. Good luck to you.
you need a keyboard and and MIDI cable, MIDI output from keyboard goes into MIDI input on the Synth it self :) hope I could help :)
Last Call!
Better get one before they're all GONE!
+Matthew Paluch One year later and they are still available ; )
And another year gone by, several on Ebay and I'm gonna grab one.
Why haven't you reviewed the Moog Little Phatty Stage II?! PLEASE DO!!!
Is it compatible with doepfer dark time sequencer ?
I wonder if Norman Cook bought one of these ??
do you need a external sound card if you want to make sounds with Logic Pro 9 ?
*make patches in logic pro i meant...like can u just use usb and ur good to go ?
You can just get something like a focusrite scarlett 2i4, they're pretty cheap (2i4's are better than 2i2 because they have the MIDI I/O ports)
i got my self RME Baby Face ! :)
@drakeishfyre No I was not being sarcastic. I've only ever owned one moog and it did not have an arp so I like the idea of having one that does and incorporates more recent technology. Sorry if you think wanting desirable features is silly...
I think the first pronunciation of 'Moog' that you used is correct! Two letter Os and then a consonant are never pronounced non-phonetically, I'm sure. If it were pronounced the second way, it would be spelled 'Mogue' or Mouge' or Mowg' to rhyme with 'rogue'.
Unfortunately you’re wrong
@@joshraab6808 lol
Awesome review. Want one :)
amazing sound!!
ohh all right I thought you were saying 'sound source' as a sound source that would modulate a destination. like a since wave source would change the destination pitch of a sound. I thought how can a white noise be usefull to modulate a pitch for example.
But you meant sound source as basically 'A Sound'. You mean that there is actually no White noise Sound available in the module. Oh yes as you say.. that is a big omission
Fantastic says it all.
Can anyone identify what controller he is using?
@humblelaurie £699, its monophonic
Phat! Like the music you're making.
Great Review!!! :)
only thing i see that could go wrong with it is a knob breaking off if you aren't careful. Other than that its a metal box...
This synth sounds extremely close to the Korg MS-20, maybe its just me
Oh, I heard the bottom end. And felt it. Gotta love Fisher Studio Standard! Made my dog bark.
This sounds far more enormous as a bass-synth than the Minitaur, would that be fair to say?
Def one of the best on the web
i say moog too because they are so damn smooooooth :D
torn between picking up a Moog or going with an A4
...cutoff and resonance on the same pot? ouch....
I was about to go off, but just did some research after writing that first line and see the phattys have a "pot mapping" feature, enabling assignment to anything. I still think having a dedicated resonance would be WAY more handy, letting you leave the rest of the pots to their respective functions, but it'll do in a pinch I guess. Without that feature I would have immediately dismissed the phattys.
you can easily design analogish hihat and percussion sounds with a noise osc.
too awesome. gotta get one.
Can't believe it only has one knob for the filter. Why skimp on something vital like that? I would have bought it otherwise.
OK, My ignorance showing here can you use this with guitar???? Anyone?
Could you connect a bass guitar into this?
Outie1179 yes
It really hurts to think that with the money I'm used to recieving that I'll probably never be able to buy a Moog. It's such a Depressing thought.
God dammit… how many more moog demos am I gong to see where MIDI controllers are the main fucking component being used? I’m considering one if these and need to know if it works as an enhancement to a SUB 25, or any other hardware unit for that matter
@KilianColin yes, look it up in the manual on page 58.
God knows we'd all love a Moog synth, but given the philistines out there who would not know a real Moog sound from VST moog. What's the point in spending all that money? Maybe I'm wrong but only us older guys/gals get why they are great. Many good VSTs have infinitely more choice of sounds, especially for the modern tastes in productions. I know many of you want me burned at the stake, but honestly, are there enough fresh sounds to cater for the sonically hungry masses? (raise shields!)
@Ori0n1975 That Sucks man. I don't have much in the line of equipment, but I tend to get the Most out of it by working hard, & long on Experiments in Sound. You might like some of it you know. I put in an awful lot to make my music stand out, yet have much of the 60's, 70's, 80's in there mixed with Mellodrama, with emphasis on Dynamics! soundcloud com/kindle if you're interested. Do you make any Music?
@iv0luti0n
The Andromeda, when released, was criticized for not being 'analog' enough, but when it got discontinued prices went up 50% and now people are sad about it's passing. There's this 'what have you done for me' lately attitude, and frankly it annoys me.