@ they’re different players - don’t recall Willie killing many penalties, but don’t recall Marner scoring 40… marner isn’t worth more, he’s worth similar - give him 11.6 to stroke his ego - if he’s anywhere over 12 we’ll have learned nothing from the last go ‘round
@@stug5041 marner plays with Matthews, he’s not gonna get 40😂 you see what he can do when Matthews isn’t playing with him. You’re acting like a 100 point player that also plays almost selke worthy defence isn’t more valuable than just being an offensive threat. He’s the most valuable player on the team
@@shanebrohm7786 I’m not acting like anything - first off all, marner has never hit 100 points. Secondly, Matthews is hardly “just an offensive threat” - he’s pretty dang good defensively himself, plays the more important position, and scores way more goals. Last I checked those were harder to come by than assists. Marner is a fine player but he is not worth Matthews dollars in the current financial landscape
Marner is worth at least 12 million. His and Nylanders career high in goals are only 5 goals apart, he's one of the best defensive forwards in the league, not to mention a top 5 playermaker. I can't think of one thing outside of goals that Nylander is better at than Marner @stug5041
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The salary cap may in fact be on the verge of a substantial increase but so too will be the dollars thrown at free agents rising at the same time. If Toronto pays market value for both Marner and Tavares, they will be only slightly better off than they were during the flat cap era with their unworkable top heavy cap structure. The Leafs have already demonstrated that filling out the rest of the roster with cheap help will never build a contender. Both Marner and Tavares are hometown boys who have expressed a desire to stay in Toronto.....that has to be worth something to them.
Ridiculous the leafs will still have the same problems as always. We never ever learn. 13 million for someone who is not capable of performing in the playoffs is insanity. 9 years of only scoring playoff points when the games are out of reach will never win you anything. Stop this talk
Assuming I can have these players at the pinnacle of their careers no matter what team they played for at that specific time (because you didn't stipulate that I couldn't): Gilmour, Sundin, Mogilny, Matthews, Roberts, Clark Leetch, Housley, Ellett, Murphy Belfour, Joseph
Yea exactly. Wait til after the playoffs to make a decision. He will get the bag for sure from someone like Columbus but the leafs can give that 8th year. But if he flops again in April, then it is time to move on.
I love how quickly it went from “the leafs have to shake up the core and move on from Marner” to “it’s a no brainer that the leafs are going to re-sign Marner, and that’s a good thing!”
Apparently last night during the Avs-knights game they kept mentioning that they should trade Marner for Rantanan. Which as an Avs fan is like wtf not a chance 😂
It’s like with the Jays last year…. They were “strong contenders” for Ohtani and there was “no way” they could come back with the same team with only small tweaks. As soon as they lost out on Ohtani they started making small tweaks and all the fans were like “I like how we’ve upgraded the roster around the edges! We’re gonna be so good!”
Marners not resigning in Toronto. He’s leaving July 1st and it’s the media and fans fault. They blamed it all on him so this will be his F you to them when he signs for 14 million somewhere else.
I like the player but even ROR said it was too much playing for the leafs with all the hype, media and scrutiny that came with it. If he was made to come back who knows what that does to him considering he loves the laid back nature of playing on the Preds. As a player tho I’d want him too
@ I think if he doesn’t have an NTC, and I bet he does, he would give it his all - character guy - but yah I get he wouldn’t choose to be here. He’s what they need thou
Thats his market price. The Blue Jackets would easily offer that if not more. But I think Treliving is smart enough to not do that unless he has an insane playoffs.
@@crushdavis7048 sure but why would anyone want to play in Columbus. He wants to be seen as a god. He won't be there. Also no playoffs but that may be what he wants an early summer break.
The most frustrating aspect about the marner situation is why go 11/12 against the cap when he can make 10 then receive another 4/5million between advertisements
Marner sucks and to soft for playoffs! See yeah not interested! Already overpaid and overrated! Has a better chance of being captain of the woman's team!
The comparable for Marner is Willie not Auston
Marner is better than willie. Point blank
@ they’re different players - don’t recall Willie killing many penalties, but don’t recall Marner scoring 40… marner isn’t worth more, he’s worth similar - give him 11.6 to stroke his ego - if he’s anywhere over 12 we’ll have learned nothing from the last go ‘round
@@stug5041 marner plays with Matthews, he’s not gonna get 40😂 you see what he can do when Matthews isn’t playing with him. You’re acting like a 100 point player that also plays almost selke worthy defence isn’t more valuable than just being an offensive threat. He’s the most valuable player on the team
@@shanebrohm7786 I’m not acting like anything - first off all, marner has never hit 100 points. Secondly, Matthews is hardly “just an offensive threat” - he’s pretty dang good defensively himself, plays the more important position, and scores way more goals. Last I checked those were harder to come by than assists. Marner is a fine player but he is not worth Matthews dollars in the current financial landscape
Marner is worth at least 12 million. His and Nylanders career high in goals are only 5 goals apart, he's one of the best defensive forwards in the league, not to mention a top 5 playermaker. I can't think of one thing outside of goals that Nylander is better at than Marner @stug5041
I think Rantanen will stay. He's finish and probably more interesed in having a chance to win again than a few extra bucks in a bankaccount
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The salary cap may in fact be on the verge of a substantial increase but so too will be the dollars thrown at free agents rising at the same time. If Toronto pays market value for both Marner and Tavares, they will be only slightly better off than they were during the flat cap era with their unworkable top heavy cap structure.
The Leafs have already demonstrated that filling out the rest of the roster with cheap help will never build a contender.
Both Marner and Tavares are hometown boys who have expressed a desire to stay in Toronto.....that has to be worth something to them.
Ridiculous the leafs will still have the same problems as always. We never ever learn. 13 million for someone who is not capable of performing in the playoffs is insanity. 9 years of only scoring playoff points when the games are out of reach will never win you anything. Stop this talk
Assuming I can have these players at the pinnacle of their careers no matter what team they played for at that specific time (because you didn't stipulate that I couldn't):
Gilmour, Sundin, Mogilny, Matthews, Roberts, Clark
Leetch, Housley, Ellett, Murphy
Belfour, Joseph
On behalf of the Preds, I offer ROR and the Vegas 1st for Marner.
Kakko has been one of the Rangers best players this season they better not trade him.
Heres the trade ... anderson and kuzmenko to ottawa for norris and yakemchuck and 2026 1st rnd pick
If Marner can’t perform in the playoffs, I wouldn’t even give him a contract period. But if he does perform, then I wouldn’t pay him more than $10.5
You sir do not know your hockey.😂 no less than 10.5 is laughable
Regardless of how he does, he is not getting a raise.
Ya i would’ve tried to trade him in the offseason but since they couldn’t or didn’t want to, id let him walk
Yea exactly. Wait til after the playoffs to make a decision. He will get the bag for sure from someone like Columbus but the leafs can give that 8th year. But if he flops again in April, then it is time to move on.
Yeah give him less than what he has now lmao
You can get Chat GPT to do that project
I love how quickly it went from “the leafs have to shake up the core and move on from Marner” to “it’s a no brainer that the leafs are going to re-sign Marner, and that’s a good thing!”
Now imagine an extra $14mil in cap space and 4 1st round picks from Arizona!
Apparently last night during the Avs-knights game they kept mentioning that they should trade Marner for Rantanan. Which as an Avs fan is like wtf not a chance 😂
Regular season winning has them huffing the copium, train is never late. Once the playoffs roll around, we'll see what happens to that narrative. Lol.
Nothing should be signed for Marner until after the playoffs
It’s like with the Jays last year…. They were “strong contenders” for Ohtani and there was “no way” they could come back with the same team with only small tweaks. As soon as they lost out on Ohtani they started making small tweaks and all the fans were like “I like how we’ve upgraded the roster around the edges! We’re gonna be so good!”
Leafs needed a million dollar cap 5 years ago.
Teams that start paying these guys 14 mill will never win a cup lol this isn’t the nba where you can sign 3-4 guys to 15 per and expect cups
Keep your day job dude. The position of GM isn’t for you.
@ ya good one lmao
Lol imagine wasting $13m on Marner. Please do it Leafs, the rest of us would love it.
lol imagine thinking this is sound logic.
you have to..someone else will. you dont want 29 pts in 22 games?
@@bclmax not $13 mill. He'll end up on a playoff bubble team or cellar dweller.
@@bclmaxthat’s not worth 13 million 😂
@@lAmCanad1an so how do replace those points?
Marners not resigning in Toronto. He’s leaving July 1st and it’s the media and fans fault. They blamed it all on him so this will be his F you to them when he signs for 14 million somewhere else.
Good riddance
Agreed
@@vernonhowell4070 lmao 14 million for a winger who can’t crack 100 points good luck to that team 😂
wrong
@@stug5041 he’s an important part of every aspect of the game. He’s one of the best wingers in the league. He also had 99 a few years ago….
Bring ROR back to Toronto (assuming he doesn’t have an NTC)
I like the player but even ROR said it was too much playing for the leafs with all the hype, media and scrutiny that came with it. If he was made to come back who knows what that does to him considering he loves the laid back nature of playing on the Preds. As a player tho I’d want him too
@ I think if he doesn’t have an NTC, and I bet he does, he would give it his all - character guy - but yah I get he wouldn’t choose to be here. He’s what they need thou
@ that’s true. No question on his effort he’s a fantastic centre man
Tavares 7.5 and Im happy better Ryan Oreilly lil bump because of our taxes
@daltomn.strongman2397 I think that jt is willing to take 5 or less to stay in Toronto
Is that ALF in the middle. 😂
Did I wake up in a different universe ? Marner for close to 13 million , wtf is happenjng
Thats his market price. The Blue Jackets would easily offer that if not more. But I think Treliving is smart enough to not do that unless he has an insane playoffs.
@@crushdavis7048 sure but why would anyone want to play in Columbus. He wants to be seen as a god. He won't be there. Also no playoffs but that may be what he wants an early summer break.
The most frustrating aspect about the marner situation is why go 11/12 against the cap when he can make 10 then receive another 4/5million between advertisements
Chris just needs to give up on his hair. Cut it. Accept it. Embrace it.
Mitch will test the market because of his greed.
Greed? With the cap going up and all he does for the team he’s worth Matthew’s money
Your delusional regular season stats dont count when your a soft ghost in the postseason@@shanebrohm7786
Riiiight. And if you were he you wouldn't try to get the best deal ? That's not too smart.
Maybe he wants to test the market to join a contender!
@@Colin-wi9cd why would he do that when he can stay in Toronto and win a cup
Marner sucks and to soft for playoffs! See yeah not interested! Already overpaid and overrated! Has a better chance of being captain of the woman's team!
Ouch ... yikes ... you do know he reads these posts
It’s okay. No need to showcase how much of a casual you are lmao
Marner is a $14M man and the Leafs will pay him.
Draisatl is a $14M man. At $14 I think Leafs have to seriously consider walking away.