DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE SECOND PART TO THIS WHERE WE TAKE ATTRITION EVEN FURTHER? If you do, you need to like and subscribe chaps, I don't make the rules. (It's already been recorded, just need to know if there's interest in watching part two!)
This Coptic debacle is why you should be able to flip religion diplomatically. If you ally a country with a different religion and get a lot of favours, you should be able to request that they send clerics to your country, which then starts off an event chain that ends with you switching religion.
@@prestonjones1653 I guess I haven't tested it, but I was referencing something from a Dev Diary in March of 2023. Ramparts can now only be placed on terrain which is seen as “Flatland” in the game. This means it is only possible to build ramparts on farmlands, grasslands, steppes, savannahs, drylands, (coastal) deserts and coastlines. Note: we are aware that this change is a bit against the nature of what ramparts actually are. The reason behind this change is that mountains with ramparts can lead to oppressive situations where neither side wants to commit to an attack due to the threat which are -3 on rolls. Guess that’s what I get for not checking final patch notes. They must not have gone this direction.
@@Alvarvar anbennar is a fantasy overhaul for eu4 with different race like elves, goblins, dwarfs etc. It has different mechanics like magic added. Jaddari nation in particular was very fun last I played.
@@Alvarvar red green and blue scale kobolds in cannor by the gnomes. Red kobolds are probably the easiest of the three followed by blue, but that doesn't make them easy. Goldscale kobolds have a lovely tree but laith has played it already and everyone hates them less
I feel like kobolds, dwarfs and goblins already have enough representation on youtube. Whenever big youtubers play Anbennar, it's usually one of these races. Laith playing Jadd was the only exception I've seen. Why does nobody play in the actual empire of Anbenner, for example? 😅
"Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires" - Smug Afghani -Conquered by the greeks -Conquered by the persians -Conquered by the Mongols -Conquered by the persians again -Conquered by the Mughals ... yeah buddy am not so sure about that
The mughals literaly started in Afghanistan since the people in Balkh were the only ones still loyal to the Timurids. There was no mughal conquest of Afghanistan. Also persians have traditionaly been one of the two dominant ethnicities in Afghanistan. Otherwise, yes it was sometimes conquered, but generaly only by massive concessions and much struggle. We don't know much about the Achaemenids but Bardiya, second son of Cyrus, was governor in Balkh. Alexander maried a noblewoman from Balkh and let her father govern the region. After that Afghanistan was never completely conquered by an outside force until the Ist century BC and even gained independence under a local greek dynasty centered on Balkh. Then Balkh came under the rule of Tocharians who set up their own kingdom there under unknown circumstances while the arsacids conquered Sistan in the south. The Arsacids let the Surens rule over Sistan as largely autonomous vassals (the arsacid general at Carrhae was a Suren). At the end of the century the Surens gained independence until the IIIrd century. The tocharians created an empire centered on Bagram which lasted until the IIIrd century. The Sassanids conquered the region but let it be ruled by an autonomous king which ruled from Balkh until the IVth century when the huns the Sassanids had settled there rebelled and took Balkh. Sistan was at first autonomous but lost its status in the IVth century. Several hunnic empires ruled the region until the IXth century. The Sassanids retook Balkh in the VIth century followed by the Arabs a century later but the huns at the time had their capital at Kabul and stayed independent, they were then overthrown by a hindu dynasty and the Kabul kingdom endured until the XIth century. Balkh was thus the center of a sometimes independent, sometimes autonomous state that took many forms but lasted from the IIIrd century BC to the VIth century AD and then relocated to Kabul, closer to India where the huns were waging war. The Kabul state lasted until the XIth century. A first muslim empire centered on Afghanistan was that of the Saffarids from the south which ruled shortly over most of Iran in the IXth century, then they ruled Sistan, making it into an autonomous state that lasted until the XVIth century. The Ghaznavids established themselves in southern Afganistan and created another empire that ruled most of Iran and northeast India and which put an end to the Kabul state. They were then overthrown by the Shansabani who conquered all of northern India but were defeated by the Khwarezmshahs. Most of Afghanistan was still under Shansabani rule when the mongols arrived, the Shansabani ruled the region as an autonomous vassal of the Ilkhans and gained independence in the XIVth century. Timur founded his empire in Balkh and overthrew the Shansabani, the Timurids would then rule the region until the XVIIIth century. Parts of western Afghanistan would be under Uzbek and then iranian rule, in the XVIIIth century pashtuns in these regions rebeled and briefly took over Iran before being defeated by Nader Shah. Nader Shah defeated the Timurids and took over the region by allying with the Durranis. At his death the Durrani became independent and thus modern Afghanistan was born. So a second long lasting state (that we can call Khurassani after the province) lasted from the Xth to the XVIIIth century mostly as an independent state but sometimes as an autonomous vassal. This is to say Afghanistan is indeed the "graveyard of empires" people who look at some maps to say the contrary are generaly not aware of the political realities in Iran where recognizing some sort of central power often didn't mean a complete loss of independence. In Afghanistan (and historicaly in other iranian mountain countries like Tabaristan, Kurdistan or Luristan) power is gained through negociation. A foreign power can earn safe passage and a cut on tax routes by negociating with mountain clans. Any attempt to exerce a more brutal form of power nearly always failed in the long run. Be it Alexander with Roxana, the Arsacids with the Surens, the Sassanids with the Kushanshahs, the mongols with the Shansabani or Nader Shah with the Durranis, an empire that wanted dominion over the Khyber pass always had to get the afghans to its side. The british, russians and americans thought they could exert power in Afghanistan through their own civilized method of shooting at anything with brown skin while discarding the decadent and barbarous oriental practice of talking with eachother and negociating. They lost.
Game: Here's two dev clicks, dev discount, and prestige for the low cost of 75% less taxes in your extremely unfriendly to develop provinces Laith: Muh gold
Glad you posted this video in the hour and fifteen minutes that I’m awake today while I try to catch up on my sleep so I can download it for work tomorrow
Bro: aims to get most defensible forts with high deffensivenes Also bro: *take virgin lvl 2 50% advisor instead of chad permanent 25% fort deffensivenes* Me: so it was a f. LIE
Ive done this recently. Defensive/ attritionmaxxing is very good against the ottomans and in india. Go for the wall of China, although if you stack hard enough with ramparts, it might not be necessary, although it is nice to have more garrison size regardless. I attempted to culture switch to albanian for the first tier govt, but it was too late into the game by that time.
This is more fun if you make Afghanistan your March because Marches get another 20% fort defense and I think they go defensive almost every game anyway.
"Why am I trying to spread misinformation out on the internet?" "I am a well adjusted member of society" "Otherwise VERY NORMAL" Keep the memes coming!
As the girl sitting here with 8500 hours, dragging and dropping the fort over is ridiculous. You can only pull something similar to that off as the Byzantines.
If you ever want to make it totally miserable for people to siege your forts you need in fact 4 idea groups innovative, quantity, defensive, and infrastructure. Putting all that together you get like 60% fort defense, 2 or 3 hostile attrition base and almost 100% garrison size bonus, in the end of the game that means the enemy needs 53 units on a lvl 8 fort to even make progress. Put that on a mountain fort, with all the attrition bonuses and the fact that supply doesnt go higher than 40 in most provinces, it's great. the enemy just drains manpower so fast. Pick a nation that gets another 20% garrison size and that goes up to 56 units. If I'm remembering right, that is. The numbers might be slightly different and it's not effective until the second tier of forts, but it is very funny I promise.
This gameplay was so chaotic and weird, from coptic Afghanistan to big Brittany. I would really want to know what happens next to the attrition levels. Swiss is also a country I would recommend for this kinda stuff. 😄 Edit: Love the puns Laith, keep them cooking even if people find them annoying. 😉
...Why are you not just hovering over the idea name to see the bonuses it would give paired with another idea set? It'd be faster than picking and cancelling other ideas... what...
Laith, if you want an example of a completely unopposed revolution that took everyone by surprise with how unopposed they were, look no further than the Glorious Revolution.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE SECOND PART TO THIS WHERE WE TAKE ATTRITION EVEN FURTHER? If you do, you need to like and subscribe chaps, I don't make the rules.
(It's already been recorded, just need to know if there's interest in watching part two!)
yes there is
yes!
Yes! I was hoping at the start you would go for the monument in Tbilisi, Narikala Fortress, but if Poland killed Muscovy it might not be worth it :(
10:22 "seems pretty normal"
GIGA BRITANNY
This Coptic debacle is why you should be able to flip religion diplomatically. If you ally a country with a different religion and get a lot of favours, you should be able to request that they send clerics to your country, which then starts off an event chain that ends with you switching religion.
Cool mechanic. IRL it would spawn huge rebellions and probably some palace coup :)
@@neutronshiva2498 Not really Islam spread like that in many places if I recall correctly, I might just be making facts up but who knows.
@@neutronshiva2498depends on the lead up I feel, tho honestly eu4 has long since passed complete realism as a focus
@@damnimbored25 Sort of. Sufis, missionaries, and merchants helped spread Islam along trade routes
Unlikely @@neutronshiva2498
10:22 AAAAAAAH god dammit you can't just jumpscare me like that
Why? It seems pretty normal.
Kudos to the editor!
you should try using earbuds instead of headphones to avoid making your hair look like a lawnmower drove a line through it
I still don't get why can't he just use the damn earphones
I mean it is kind of a part of the brand by now...
And also to avoid head dents
Then we can't make fun of his hair again... Lol
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Hooray, Laith finally invests into forts after not upgrading Forts in the Najd game.
Please tell me you built ramparts for more attrition
Ramparts can’t be built in mountains anymore.
@@jjw_54023 nah, I played as Eranshahr yesterday and I had ramparts in some mountain provinces (for the mission tree mainly)
@@jjw_54023
Yes you can?
@@jjw_54023 you playing with a balance mod on?
@@prestonjones1653 I guess I haven't tested it, but I was referencing something from a Dev Diary in March of 2023.
Ramparts can now only be placed on terrain which is seen as “Flatland” in the game. This means it is only possible to build ramparts on farmlands, grasslands, steppes, savannahs, drylands, (coastal) deserts and coastlines.
Note: we are aware that this change is a bit against the nature of what ramparts actually are. The reason behind this change is that mountains with ramparts can lead to oppressive situations where neither side wants to commit to an attack due to the threat which are -3 on rolls.
Guess that’s what I get for not checking final patch notes. They must not have gone this direction.
play kobolds in anbennar, they're a beast for attritioning your enemies to death, and definately harder than granada
Or he could go full masochism and do Dhenijanraj into Harimraj ;)
which kobolds? looking for a new run :D
@@Alvarvar anbennar is a fantasy overhaul for eu4 with different race like elves, goblins, dwarfs etc. It has different mechanics like magic added. Jaddari nation in particular was very fun last I played.
@@Alvarvar red green and blue scale kobolds in cannor by the gnomes. Red kobolds are probably the easiest of the three followed by blue, but that doesn't make them easy.
Goldscale kobolds have a lovely tree but laith has played it already and everyone hates them less
I feel like kobolds, dwarfs and goblins already have enough representation on youtube. Whenever big youtubers play Anbennar, it's usually one of these races. Laith playing Jadd was the only exception I've seen. Why does nobody play in the actual empire of Anbenner, for example? 😅
Correct me if I am wrong, but even though Roh is only a highlands, the province has additional modifier making it really good for a fort.
The laugh I let out at 23:05
Me too, brother. Me too 😂
"Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires" - Smug Afghani
-Conquered by the greeks
-Conquered by the persians
-Conquered by the Mongols
-Conquered by the persians again
-Conquered by the Mughals
...
yeah buddy am not so sure about that
Persians (achamenid)
Greeks (macedonian and bactrian)
Greco-persians (seluecids)
Indians (mauryan)
Persians (parthians and sassanids)
Hephthalites
Perso-arabs (ummayads, abbasids, etc.)
Turks (ghurids, ghaznavids, etc.)
Turko-persian (khwarezmians)
Mongols
Uzbeks (timurids)
Persians (safavids)
Indo-Turko-persians (mughals)
Hey, they need something to be happy about in these times...
They beat England, Russia, and the USA. Stronger than any of those, and modern tech. Insane logic
Where are all these empires now?
mhh
The mughals literaly started in Afghanistan since the people in Balkh were the only ones still loyal to the Timurids. There was no mughal conquest of Afghanistan. Also persians have traditionaly been one of the two dominant ethnicities in Afghanistan.
Otherwise, yes it was sometimes conquered, but generaly only by massive concessions and much struggle.
We don't know much about the Achaemenids but Bardiya, second son of Cyrus, was governor in Balkh.
Alexander maried a noblewoman from Balkh and let her father govern the region.
After that Afghanistan was never completely conquered by an outside force until the Ist century BC and even gained independence under a local greek dynasty centered on Balkh. Then Balkh came under the rule of Tocharians who set up their own kingdom there under unknown circumstances while the arsacids conquered Sistan in the south.
The Arsacids let the Surens rule over Sistan as largely autonomous vassals (the arsacid general at Carrhae was a Suren). At the end of the century the Surens gained independence until the IIIrd century.
The tocharians created an empire centered on Bagram which lasted until the IIIrd century.
The Sassanids conquered the region but let it be ruled by an autonomous king which ruled from Balkh until the IVth century when the huns the Sassanids had settled there rebelled and took Balkh. Sistan was at first autonomous but lost its status in the IVth century.
Several hunnic empires ruled the region until the IXth century. The Sassanids retook Balkh in the VIth century followed by the Arabs a century later but the huns at the time had their capital at Kabul and stayed independent, they were then overthrown by a hindu dynasty and the Kabul kingdom endured until the XIth century.
Balkh was thus the center of a sometimes independent, sometimes autonomous state that took many forms but lasted from the IIIrd century BC to the VIth century AD and then relocated to Kabul, closer to India where the huns were waging war. The Kabul state lasted until the XIth century.
A first muslim empire centered on Afghanistan was that of the Saffarids from the south which ruled shortly over most of Iran in the IXth century, then they ruled Sistan, making it into an autonomous state that lasted until the XVIth century.
The Ghaznavids established themselves in southern Afganistan and created another empire that ruled most of Iran and northeast India and which put an end to the Kabul state.
They were then overthrown by the Shansabani who conquered all of northern India but were defeated by the Khwarezmshahs. Most of Afghanistan was still under Shansabani rule when the mongols arrived, the Shansabani ruled the region as an autonomous vassal of the Ilkhans and gained independence in the XIVth century.
Timur founded his empire in Balkh and overthrew the Shansabani, the Timurids would then rule the region until the XVIIIth century. Parts of western Afghanistan would be under Uzbek and then iranian rule, in the XVIIIth century pashtuns in these regions rebeled and briefly took over Iran before being defeated by Nader Shah.
Nader Shah defeated the Timurids and took over the region by allying with the Durranis. At his death the Durrani became independent and thus modern Afghanistan was born.
So a second long lasting state (that we can call Khurassani after the province) lasted from the Xth to the XVIIIth century mostly as an independent state but sometimes as an autonomous vassal.
This is to say Afghanistan is indeed the "graveyard of empires" people who look at some maps to say the contrary are generaly not aware of the political realities in Iran where recognizing some sort of central power often didn't mean a complete loss of independence. In Afghanistan (and historicaly in other iranian mountain countries like Tabaristan, Kurdistan or Luristan) power is gained through negociation. A foreign power can earn safe passage and a cut on tax routes by negociating with mountain clans. Any attempt to exerce a more brutal form of power nearly always failed in the long run. Be it Alexander with Roxana, the Arsacids with the Surens, the Sassanids with the Kushanshahs, the mongols with the Shansabani or Nader Shah with the Durranis, an empire that wanted dominion over the Khyber pass always had to get the afghans to its side.
The british, russians and americans thought they could exert power in Afghanistan through their own civilized method of shooting at anything with brown skin while discarding the decadent and barbarous oriental practice of talking with eachother and negociating. They lost.
Game: Here's two dev clicks, dev discount, and prestige for the low cost of 75% less taxes in your extremely unfriendly to develop provinces
Laith: Muh gold
Taxes are garbage income, Laith is correct here.
but...he took the taxes over the dev@@AlienFromBeyond
"Pretty normal" he says while it zooms in on brittany being absolutely massive. Someone has a funny editor it seems. :)
We need to see you form Persia in this campaign. The Persian mission tree offers some insane defensive modifiers.
53:45 Babur again takes Samarkand
Giga Brittany reminds me why I subbed to begin with. You always used to have the strangest games .
Remember AI Lotharingia?
@@carltonleboss that was wild !
Al lotheringia was what made me sub
The Afghanistan shape meme was peak!
laith rapunzel arc
Laith seems to be completely burnt out from conquest. IT'S THE BEST TIME TO PLAY ANBENNAR
Glad you posted this video in the hour and fifteen minutes that I’m awake today while I try to catch up on my sleep so I can download it for work tomorrow
Can you try to vassal every starting great power in 1444 as Austria? This would be sick, much love from Australia!
Bro: aims to get most defensible forts with high deffensivenes
Also bro: *take virgin lvl 2 50% advisor instead of chad permanent 25% fort deffensivenes*
Me: so it was a f. LIE
"F."
You Mean *F*CKING LIE!*
Ive done this recently. Defensive/ attritionmaxxing is very good against the ottomans and in india. Go for the wall of China, although if you stack hard enough with ramparts, it might not be necessary, although it is nice to have more garrison size regardless.
I attempted to culture switch to albanian for the first tier govt, but it was too late into the game by that time.
Ford o' Kabul River multiplied by a factor of Laith.
Nah you didn’t do Afghanistan like that lmao 23:07
This is more fun if you make Afghanistan your March because Marches get another 20% fort defense and I think they go defensive almost every game anyway.
I am truly enjoying this concept, and it was refreshing to see a religion switch like that. 100% i'd watch the 2nd video
3:19 na, that's brilliant humor that
Laith did you ever make a 2nd part to the Afghanistan in europa expanded.
I just did the Garhwal forts achievement and the wall of china monument is really good for this +2 attrition it exactly what you want
The mane is always glorious Laith
Imagine being a minor nation bordering Afghanistan. You're just chilling and all of a sudden a bunch of Copts come by and destroy your entire army.
I like how laith takes anything but infrastructure ideas despite them clearly being the best option with the rest of his ideas
3:07 I fear the day when I’ll be in a spread misinformation on the internet contest and my opponent is cheeky no trim Laith
18:19
Laith casually describing the past 500 years of Russian foreign policy in one sentence.
Reminds me of the Finland run.
Interesting thing that happened early on, is Sirhind losing Delhi to Janpur
"Why am I trying to spread misinformation out on the internet?"
"I am a well adjusted member of society"
"Otherwise VERY NORMAL"
Keep the memes coming!
Bregenz had 25% fort defence, I was very impressed by that, especially cos they nearly cost me a war and had 95% fort defence
I watched about half, fell asleep, woke up, and then finished watching the other half.
Play until 1700, seeing revolutionary Afghanistan is something I really need lol
no "graveyard of empires" is just massive stretch like those things often are
laiths editor is getting sassy in this video
I would have commented earlier, but at rehearsal and the Internet is abysmal. Day 158, I'm getting bored.
Those coptic rebels went sicko mode on those minor nations.
have you.. stopped using the classic background music? it feels so weird
Laith setting himself the impossible challenge if playing a game where he cannot delet fort
As the girl sitting here with 8500 hours, dragging and dropping the fort over is ridiculous. You can only pull something similar to that off as the Byzantines.
Red Hawk did a similar tting in A to Z, didn't he?
More history with Laith pls 🙏
Afghanistan: the Graveyard of Empires
Laith, TheSocialStreamers: the Graveyard of Barbers
Freddy Fivebear’s Pizzeria is also a graveyard of empires
Laith looks exceptionally attractive in this video.
Cultureswap to Albanian for League of lezhe government reform. Even more attrition and fort defence.
The Georgians are Copt not Apostolic? I didn’t know they switched.
15 seconds ago. Damn I call that timing
How is his hair gonna look any different with product?
If you ever want to make it totally miserable for people to siege your forts you need in fact 4 idea groups
innovative, quantity, defensive, and infrastructure.
Putting all that together you get like 60% fort defense, 2 or 3 hostile attrition base and almost 100% garrison size bonus, in the end of the game that means the enemy needs 53 units on a lvl 8 fort to even make progress. Put that on a mountain fort, with all the attrition bonuses and the fact that supply doesnt go higher than 40 in most provinces, it's great. the enemy just drains manpower so fast. Pick a nation that gets another 20% garrison size and that goes up to 56 units. If I'm remembering right, that is. The numbers might be slightly different and it's not effective until the second tier of forts, but it is very funny I promise.
Espionage also gives fort defense bonus policies.
@@sld1776 I think it is just fort defense no garrison size, but yes
Day 188 of asking for an Oranje Free State Playthrough of Vicky 3...It's surprising how long it's been now in retrospect.
1:05 Red Hawk did that kinda jokingly and iirc failed in his A to Z.
Steal the idea, show em how it's done.
This gameplay was so chaotic and weird, from coptic Afghanistan to big Brittany. I would really want to know what happens next to the attrition levels. Swiss is also a country I would recommend for this kinda stuff. 😄
Edit: Love the puns Laith, keep them cooking even if people find them annoying. 😉
BRITTANY SWEEP
Hello mr editor. Hi. I like you.
I've never ever seen Brittany be that big before lol
Empire of graveyards
Do you like not know you can hover ideas to see all policies?
That's a baller hairstyle, no need to be self-conscious about it bro
Earlylyly
Day 32 asking for a Mega Campaign with Koifish
...Why are you not just hovering over the idea name to see the bonuses it would give paired with another idea set? It'd be faster than picking and cancelling other ideas... what...
Laith, if you want an example of a completely unopposed revolution that took everyone by surprise with how unopposed they were, look no further than the Glorious Revolution.
Day 163 of asking for you to play Victoria 2 as cuba and become Fidel Castro
more anbennar
Just stealing Red Hawk's videos now Laith :P
He stole my heart first smh
bro is a cutie patootie
Stfu bout your hair, you and I know too damn well that you’re beautiful
First
first lol