You've probably already had at least fifteen hundred people mention this. In the hospital scene, when the homeless man died, you can see the little boy in a wheelchair. That was obviously before Phil learned that he had fallen out of the tree. It might even have been in one of those visits to the hospital that Phil found out about it and chose to prevent it.
Never noticed that before, how cool! Every time I watch this, I notice something like this, with a background character popping up other places. It really is incredible how carefully constructed this movie was.
Another fact, is this was sadly the last time he and Harold Ramis ever worked together due to creative differences and arguments on set. They did patch things up before Harold’s death at least, but still sad.
"The movie, as everyone knows, is about a man who finds himself living the same day over and over and over again. He is the only person in his world who knows this is happening, and after going through periods of dismay and bitterness, revolt and despair, suicidal self-destruction and cynical recklessness, he begins to do something that is alien to his nature. He begins to learn." - Roger Ebert
This truly is a masterpiece; it doesn’t seem so at first, being a Bill Murray comedy, but it’s a wonderful film that many people (myself included) have seen over and over again. It never gets old to me; I absolutely love this movie.
Masterpiece is something without flaws. I like this movie, but it has a major flaw (and the girl mentioned it). He does not arrive at places AT EXACTLY the same time. Due to change in his walking/running/stopping. So, how the same things can happen, with exactly same people in exactly same positions? Not to mention that his change in behavior/dialogue, can have a major impact in the immediate events
@@milannesic5718 What does that have to do with anything? The purpose of the movie is to show the purgatory he’s been given and what he does to eventually escape it. Every day for HIM is different, as I should be. This isn’t Back to the Future; he’s locked in his own personal hell. He has completely different days from his perspective over and over for perhaps years or even eons. No one knows for sure. This movie is damn near perfect. It’s a college film class course staple by the way.
The initial script said he was in the loop for 10,000 years but Ramis, the director, has said that it was more like 40-50 years in interviews. Either way, it's ridiculous to imagine.
i had seen this movie multiple times and thought he was in the loop for like a few weeks or months. The first time i heard it was like 30-50 years my head damn near exploded.
I just don't know how he didn't lose his mind...well i guess if he'd start over again the next day, so would his brain. That would be like living in hell.
At some point, there must be a limit to how many memories the human brain can store, no matter how hard you try to learn new stuff. With 10,000 years, surely that limit would be reached at some point.
Sooo love George's childish giggle at the words, "Gobblers Knob". Funny enough, it's a real place. And Simone's sheer heartfelt tears at Phil being kind was so touching. You two are each one of a kind, and at the same time two sides to the same coin. Much love.
I like how George's eyes lit up when he saw the scene with Phil pigging out in the cafe. I think that was the moment he realized that being stuck in a loop would probably not be that bad.
The most accurate prediction that's generally been made for how long he was in the loop was 34 years, which clearly changes him as a person. You can actually see him go through the 5 stages of grief throughout the film (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance).
@@mrgonzale0978 I have been wrong before, I shall be wrong again, I may be wrong now but I do remember an interview where he said he thought it had taken a grand.
@@spacewarpphotography1667 Thanks for the kind words. It was a phase that I had to go through; there were issues that I would have to face, sooner or later. Facing them was hard, but ultimately made me stronger.
The older I get the more I can relate to this movie. He was indeed a major A**hole when the film started and he was trying to scam her in the beginning, but after what was probably decades in his time frame he got the opportunity to grow and mature and become a much better person while still remaining physically young. After spending every day for decades with her he genuinely loved her at the end.
"What About Bob?" is another great Bill Murray movie you should see! Also, fun fact: the guy who read the proclamation during Groundhog Day and whom he later saves from choking at the restaurant is his real-life brother Brian Doyle-Murray.
I actually think that Phil was being completely honest when he said "I don't even like myself". I suspect his initial hostility towards the world is just a defence mechanism.
Exactly. His self-improvement starts with his getting to know people, developing empathy, and only then can he start to make himself better, finally getting to the point where he really does to begin to like himself.
Gobbler’s Knob is the actual name of the actual park where Punxsutawney, PA does the thing with Punxsutawney Phil, the groundhog. A gobbler is a turkey, wild ones being common in the region. A knob is a hill.
I'm a classical violinist. When I first watched this movie I was envious at how he could relive one day of his life over and over again and train to be that proficient with an instrument.
Takes years to learn one of those skills to that degree of perfection. He knows a foreign language, has medical experience, first aid, mechanical experience, a masterful piano player and ice sculptor, knows everyone in town as well as their personal histories and their exact schedules down to the second. I'm guessing he's been stuck in that loop for many years.
My favorite fact about this movie is that it was shot in reverse order. Ramis knew that Murray typically got meaner and more short tempered as a film shoot went on, so they filmed the ending first and Phil got worse as Bill got worse.
@@chanceneck8072 i like a bunch of movies he's in, but not really him specifically... that is to say his characters (which all seem kind of similarly obnoxious and unlikable, even when other characters are reacting to him as if he was being "charming", so i take it that's his personality "shining" through). he is pretty good at being comedically sarcastic tho, i'll give him that
Maybe some of the "last day" party scenes this may be true. But I think they would've done it logisticly and financially like most films: ALL of the festival reporting scenes. ALL of the wake-up scenes. ALL of the Ryerson street scenes. Etc
@@chanceneck8072 He's a human being. Sometimes people are shitty and sometimes they're great. For every story of Murray getting temperamental on set or something like that there's a story of him just deciding to hang out with random people and make their day. Such as this time when he crashed these guys bachelor party: th-cam.com/video/r3-SGUCFFc0/w-d-xo.html
@@chanceneck8072 I mean yea, maybe you should if you're going to get super defensive anytime someone says something to you. I wasn't even attacking you or anything, just giving you a counter example of Murray being a cool guy and for whatever reason you felt the need to get super sarcastic. So maybe take a breather from the internet? idk. 🤷♂
The philosophy of this film is fascinating. On the one hand, losing your ability to die is probably the most terrifying curse imaginable. But putting the inexorable march of time on hold until you learn to stop wasting it would be an amazing blessing.
The beginning of February, which falls roughly halfway between the winter solstice and the spring equinox, has long been a significant time of the year in many cultures. Among the Celts, for example, it was the time of Imbolc, observed in anticipation of the birth of farm animals and the planting of crops, and February 2 is also the date of the Christian festival of Candlemas, also called the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin. During the Middle Ages there arose the belief that animals such as the badger and the bear interrupted their hibernation to appear on this day. If the day was sunny and the animal saw its shadow, six more weeks of winter weather remained. If, however, the day was cloudy, it was a sign that the weather during the following weeks would be mild, leading to an early spring. German immigrants to the United States carried the legend with them, and in Pennsylvania the groundhog came to be substituted for the badger. Groundhog Day was celebrated on Wednesday, February 2, 2022.
Now they just pull the groundhog out of a cage and pretend to talk to it and then arbitrarily decide whether it saw it's shadow. If it had any real significance in the past, it is completely lost now.
@@jbacunnthey probably base it off of the Farmer's Almanac predictions for the year instead of it being completely arbitrary. Other than that though, you've hit the nail on the head.
No, actually the beginning of February falls roughly halfway between the summer solstice and the autumn equinox. Hello from the Southern Hemisphere, the RIGHT hemisphere!!!!
It also provides a nice counter to Halloween. Halloween is roughly the same amount of time from the winter solstice as Groundhog Day is, and Halloween starts at end of the day/beginning of the evening, and Groundhog Day is an early morning holiday.
He was stuck for 33 years and 350 days according to estimates. In a deleted line from the script, Phil actually admits to being stuck in the loop for 10,000 years.
The film also makes a point of showing Phil as a liar. If he lied about the ten thousand years, and seeing the show 100 times, we only really have hard evidence for 42 days. 36 we see on screen and 8 more are mentioned. This seems unlikely, given his skills at the end, but he could be a really quick learner. Also, Phil the groundhog predicted "six more weeks" on the first day, which is 42 days.
The 10,000 years line was from an early version of the script, not merely a deleted scene. The entire tone of the movie changed quite a bit after that version, so it's not really relevant to the final film. Harold Ramis initially estimated that it was about 10 years, but later revised his estimate to about 30, based on the plausibility of Phil learning his various skills.
Director and fellow Ghostbuster Harold Ramis originally stated that he thought Murray’s character had been stuck in Punxsutawney for ten years, however in 2009 he admitted the estimate was far too short. “It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything,” said Ramis, “and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years.”
@@morphman86 In Interstellar when they go to the bad planet and come back and 23 years have passed. We see actors playing Murph's children as 'evidence' that 23 years passed. The guy left behind in the ship doesn't look 23 years older. We just believe it because it's the story. Groundhog Day is a metaphorical story - it's not a literal story where he took x amount of years for Groundhog Day to stop happening. In a way, it's a funnier version of The Shawshank Redemption which came out in cinemas a year later. It doesn't how many years Andy or Red or Brooks are in prison, it's the passing of time that's important.
For another iconic Bill Murray movie I would suggest "What About Bob?" It also has several other familiar faces from other films you've watched on the channel.
What about Bob? and Quick Change are probably my two favorite Murray movies. Quick Change is a very underrated film and it seems like most people haven't even heard of it.
Someone tried to work out how long he was trapped in the same day to learn everything he learned and time his saving of people so perfectly by the end. It was estimated he was stuck reliving Groundhog Day for 33 years and 350 days before he finally broke free of the loop to the day after Groundhog Day.
That's just the minimum amount of time it would take for him to do all the stuff. Chances are it took him much longer than that to figure stuff out as well as just take days off. I think I read somewhere that in the original script it took like 1000 years for him to truly change as a person which was the precondition for the days to continue on as normal.
The original script had him trapped for 10,000 years. They settled on 10 years, however one website calculated it was just under 9yrs Phil was trapped.
Harold Ramis originally said the time was 10 years, then much later he did indeed say it was approximately 33 years and 350 days. I don't remember how he came to that calculation.
That would be about 12,000 days. There's also the myth of 10,000 hours to perfect a skill, but that's been debunked. In the end, Phil had to change himself, and that was what broke the loop.
The movie “Stripes” is a must if you’re wanting some more Bill Murray. And the addition of Harold Ramis and John Candy in it just makes it even funnier. Enjoy.
For Bill Murray movies I highly recommend ‘Lost In Translation’, great film. Also ‘The Life Aquatic with Steve Zisou’, and ‘Little Shop of Horrors’ are both worth a watch too.
For a side seldom seen in Bill Murray films, he has acted in several non-comedic roles, the best of which is “The Razor’s Edge”. It showcases the depth and range of his abilities.
When he hugged the insurance salesman and said "I don't know where you're going but, can you call in sick?" was improv. He made it up right there. For another great Bill Murray movie, watch Stripes. He stars with Harold Ramis, John Candy, Judge Reinhold and a couple more actors I've seen before but can't remember their names.
I live close to Punxsy and there is a gobbler's knob just out of town. The movies used the park downtown to represent it, but it's actually a bit of a hike from there. The event has becomes more and more popular since the release of the movie, and for the most part the town is portrayed somewhat accurately in terms of both appearance and the people who live there.
It’s also the film that killed his friendship with Harold. Fortunately they reconciled before he died. I do wonder how they worked together for the Ghostbusters game.
One of my favorite moments is when Phil is reading a book in the diner and looks up and around and is just in the moment. Be here now. I make it a point to do this myself once a day. It just feels good to do it.
I'd recommend watching The Man Who Knew Too Little at some point. It's definitely not his most well known or loved film, but it's fun, and I really love it.
Bill Murray movies are like pizza. Even when it's bad they are still pretty good. His worst movie might be Where the Buffalo Roam. Then there are all his roles in the Wes Anderson films. Next level Bill Murray. People also forget his small but superb roll in Tootsie.
You probably didn’t realize that the master of ceremonies on gobblers knob (the man choking in the restaurant) is Bill Murray’s older brother, Brian Doyle-Murray. They have appeared in several movies together such as Caddy Shack and Ghostbuster II.
For a long time, I thought one of the radio DJs was also Brian Doyle Murray. And the other one was Ramis. Those voices sound a lot like them, at least to me. I was really shocked when I found out I was wrong.
In the early half of the film, you can see the subtle introduction of characters in the background that Phil won't meet until later in the film - such as the in the background in the first Diner shot, you can see briefly the lady that Phil hits on, later, and takes to the cinema. Attention to detail, there. Great film.
The screenwriter’s initial plan was to have Connors trapped in the time loop for several millennia. The original script contains a final confession by Connors to his love interest Rita that “I’ve been waiting for you every day for ten thousand years.”This first draft also struck a much darker tone in making it clear that Connors was the victim of near-unimaginable torture. At one point, Connors describes his fate as one of “total despair.” The final film explicitly cut any reference to the length of Connors’ penure, but his time consigned to purgatory appears to have been much more reasonable. Director Harold Ramis, who died in 2014, once told the New York Times that Connors was stuck in Groundhog Day for only 10 years. Later, in a 2009 email to Heeb Magazine, Ramis would revise his estimate. “It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and, allotting (sic) for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years,” he wrote.
There's so much to love about this film. And since everyone else here has said most of what I'd say about this film and Bill Murray, I'd like to mention something that is a bit of a tangent. Stephen Tobolowsky, the actor who played the annoying Ned, also has a small role in the Christopher Nolan film "Memento." He's known for playing wacky weird characters like Ned, but his part in Memento is so serious and tragic. It really made me appreciate the depth of many actors like him that are often overlooked in minor roles.
Bill Murray's first feature film was "Meatballs". He is a camp counsellor. The movie was filmed in Ontario. You should also check out "Caddy Shack" where he plays the ground keeper in an exclusive golf club.
I loved "Meatballs" when I was a kid! I wanted to go away to camp and be a counselor like him; I did eventually work as a counselor one summer but I've yet to say I was as cool as Tripper.
"Lost in Translation" because only about 30 people have already suggested it, AND THATS NOT ENOUGH! "Lost in Translation" is one of my favorite movies of all time!
Stripes would be my next Bill Murray film. Just a funny film from beginning to end. Quick Change is a very underrated one as well. And while Meatballs is dated, it's a very sweet film...and Canadian! Directed by Ivan Reitman, as was Stripes.
I would also recommend Stripes. The last few scenes in the movies goes a little beyond the edge of believability, but hey, it's a comedy movie afterall.
the amount of time he spent reliving that day is insane when you take into account all he learned all he remembered and didnt forget and all of the time he spent just figuring it out and then the days hi did the final deed.
So glad you had the chance to watch this one! I live about an hour from Woodstock, IL where they filmed this and have been to a couple of the actual festivities (which only last for an hour or so as it is outside in the freezing cold). Another great Bill Murray film to add is an older film called "Stripes". He and Harold Ramis are hysterical! Ramis is actually buried in Arlington Heights, IL too (an hour from Woodstock).
Keep in mind that there is a new Stripes Directors Cut. While it is interesting, do not react to it as it includes a ton that was edited out, and mostly for good reason.
Groundhog Day was founded by the first Punxsutawney Phil before the Dawn of Human History. It is the oldest and most revered holiday in the Americas. Canada excluded, because they only have winter.
The best Bill Murray comedy, imo, is “What About Bob?”. I cannot recommend it highly enough. If you want to see him do drama, “Lost In Translation” is excellent, too.
Honestly, just watch all of Wes Anderson's films with Bill Murray in them. He's the main star in Rushmore and The Life Aquatic (his best performance), and has smaller roles in most of the rest.
My favorite fun fact about Groundhog day is that the groundhog is right about the weather roughly 40% of the time, meaning that it is statistically less accurate than a person making a random guess would be.
I know this is 2 years too late and you'll never read this but i believe the director says he believed Phil had at least been reliving things for 10, 000 years.
If the groundhog sees its shadow, that means it's sunny and clear that day - an indicator that cold weather will continue. If it's cloudy, warm weather is coming.
The movie's german title (translates to "and daily the groundhog greets") has become a phrasing that made its way into common german speech. If somebody does something over and over again so that it is already expected by everyone, the phrase is used. For example a polititian says "we are going to lower the taxes this year" the news presenter may comment "and daily the groundhog greets".
The whole movie became a meme, like the phrase 'déjà vu' before and "a glitch in the Matrix" later. I used the phrase "Ist heute etwa Murmeltiertag?" even myself once when a winter cold front came back… Politics wise we have a lot more references to history repeating, like "Die Renten sind sicher" and "Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu bauen"…
@@DrD0000M That's correct. In Russian you will almost never hear someone mentioning a 'déjà vu'. Instead, the title of the movie is used to describe such situations.
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou is one of my favorite Murray films. I did not expect it to hit me the way it did. I wept like a baby towards the end.
Hey, no mocking Gobbler's Knob. It's a real place. According to one source, when people travel to Punxsutawney, PA to see where Phil the groundhog makes his annual weather prediction, they often spend fruitless time searching downtown, because that's where it was located in the movie Groundhog Day. In fact, Hollywood made that up (the film wasn't even made in Punxsutawney). The real location is a couple of miles out of town (Punxsutawney) in a little clearing at the top of a wooded hill (Gobbler's Knob).
I like to think that the reason his time-loop didn't end the first time Rita stayed is because he didn't believe that he deserved her yet. We accept the love we believe we deserve, and it was only after he became a better person that he believed he deserved to move forward with her, thus ending his time-loop. Just my own take on it 😊 Thanks for sharing!
The first time loop film started with a short film called 12:01 PM staring starring Kurtwood Smith. Groundhog Day became the first major film and successful time loop film.
You have problem seen him in other movies recently, including Bill Murray movies. The actor that plays Buster is Brian Murray, Bill's older brother. He is also in Caddyshack, Scrooged, Ghostbusters II. He is a great character actor. Oh and according to Harold Ramis, he was stuck for 10 years living that day over and over again.
Oh, here's one Bill Murray film I had heard about for years, but only watched a few days ago: "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" directed by Wes Anderson. It's got funny and dramatic parts, and a very unusual filming style, similar to Anderson's "The Grand Budapest Hotel."
I would recommend Lost in Translation as well. It is one of my favorite movies and stars Bill Murray. Also for another more "modern" movie if you haven't seen it Zombieland, he is not a star of it but the short bit Murray is in it is great.
Two of my favorite Bill Murray movies are Scrooged and The Man Who Knew too Little. He was also great in Tootsie but he only had a supporting role and Dustin Hoffman kind of overshadowed him.
Some estimates put his time in that loop at hundreds or thousands of years, to master all those skills, learn languages, and many more that weren't put all in the final cut of the film. The dude memorised the lives of every citizen. And the timing of all events that day. And being a movie of the time you get laughs, some tears and good arcs and this case GREAT character development. Top 5 for me.
I remember seeing this in theatres and during the kidnap scene with Phil and Bill Murray, he looked sick as shit and miserable and I thought they nailed the "at the end of your rope" look. I found out later that during the driving scene, the groundhog was biting/attacking Bill Murray, so the look if misery on his face made more sense.
Bill Murray Films to see (in no particular order or preference: Stripes, CaddyShack, What About Bob? , Lost in Translation, Rushmore, Quick Change, The Life of the Aquatic with Steve Zissou, Meatballs, On the Rocks, Mad Dog and Glory and Kingpin.
Great movie. Lost in Translation is a great contrast and alternative. It does not matter how long the Murray character was stuck. It is the movement from despair to enlightenment that matters. Green Card is a good Andie McDowell movie.
Simone is kind of right. Groundhog Day is a corruption of a German tradition in which seeing signs of activity by Badgers was an omen for an early spring. This was carried to the United States by the Pennsylvania Dutch (German immigrants) and was transformed into the tale of the Groundhog. Now the celebration of this day coincides with the Christian Candlemass. February 2nd was slated as the day Jesus was brought to Jewish temple which was someone’s first purification ritual and the ceremony of redemption of the first born was held. The name literally comes from holding a candle lighting mass on that day. In many orthodox churches this is also the day where the fellowship would gather to take down the manger display. It would also be accompanied by the Feast of Candlemas. In Belgium it is traditional to have a pancake and waffle feast on this day. In France you were to feast all day on crepes. In Germany this was also the time in which you would bring all the family and workers together as it was the “farmers new year”. On this day you started the preparation of equipment and fields for work. This also comes full circle with the German myth of Badgers. As if you see signs of badgers you must hurry as spring will arrive soon. If you see no sign of stinking badgers on this day it is supposed to indicate you have a full 6 weeks to ready for planting.
Simone & George, in an early draft of the screenplay, Phil Connors admits to being trapped in a time loop for 10,000 years. However, a film blog worked it out that, at a bare minimum, Phil had to be trapped in the time loop for 33 years and 350 days. He could have been trapped longer than that, but no less. And I recommend the Bill Murray movie, "The Razor's Edge." Also to answer your earlier question: Groundhog Day was originally a pagan Celtic holiday called Imbolc or Oimelc. Imbolc symbolizes the halfway point between the Midwinter celebration known as Yule (the winter solstice) and the Festival of Ostara (spring equinox). Traditionally people would look to see if hibernating animals were waking up and emerging from their dens - this was seen as an indicator of whether or not there would be an early or late spring. To an agrarian society, this was vital information. It would help them to determine when to start planting crops. Later on, Christianity adopted the festival of Imbolc into the season of Candlemas. Candlemas celebrates the infant Jesus' presentation at the Temple; and (because in Judaism giving birth made women ritually unclean - being ritually unclean, FYI, is not the same as sin. It is not a sin to give birth.) Candlemas is also the time when Mary went through the purification ritual at the Temple.
Like years and years and years. You have to remember how many things he got good at. Piano, french, ice sculpting etc etc. That takes a long time to learn. That's not even counting all the time he took to learn about everyone, learn about the sequence of events all around town etc etc.
If you're looking for good Bill Murray films Lost in Translation is a great choice. Don't know how it would work in a reaction style video, but definitely check it out, even if it's in your own time!
It's really unfortunate but during this movie, Bill Murray and the director, Harold Ramis (aka Egon Spangler), had a falling out and they didn't reconcile until shortly before Harold's death.
Yeah, Raimis wanted to keep it light while Murray really wanted to lean onto the darker aspects of having a person repeat (possibly thousands of years worth of) days on repeat
On the other hand, Ramis was so smart and so familiar with Murray that he filmed all the end of movie scenes first because he knew how irritable Bill became over the course of filming a movie and that it would make his grumpy scenes earlier in the movie easier to film later in the process. It's just too bad that it still led to their falling out.
Bill Murray had a great part in "Little Shop of Horrors" (1986). Rick Moranis, Steve Martin, Vincent Gardenia, Ellen Greene, Christopher Guest, Levi Stubbs. heck, everyone was great in that movie.
Great stuff guys! Definitely consider Lost In Translation. It's a different quieter type of movie but a fabulous performance by Bill Murray and Scarlet Johannsen.
Yes, "Gobbler's Knob" is a thing. And if you want more fun town names, here are a few from my state of Arkansas: Toad Suck Bald Knob Possum Grape Locust Grove Lost Bridge Village Smackover
PS: Harold Ramis who wrote and directed this, as well as many other Bill Murray movies including "Ghostbusters" and "Stripes" (both of which he also co-starred in).....he was Canadian, an original member of SCTV.
I believe there was a sequence that was cut from the script where he would go to the library and ready a page every day. Then at the end of the movie you see him pretty much finished the last book in the library. Though I think they have it sort of cut down to the point where he just spend like 30-40 years in the town.
I'm really impressed with both of your guessing- immediately realizing that "He's honest with her, so maybe he has to be honest with everybody". @18:40 you hit the nail on the head with the question "Is what he's doing commendable or scummy?" I think there's a threshold where it passes from scummy to commendable. In the end he uses all his acquired knowledge not to seduce her, because at that point he probably could, but basically to convince her that he loves her the way she is and all she stands for- a totally different goal. This is one of my favorite movies. Now watch "What About Bob?" :)
I live close to Woodstock, IL where they filmed this. Every year they hold a celebration in town for Groundhog day! There's a footprint where he stepped so people can see where he actually stepped in the hole on the street. Of course, the hole is filled now. The restaurant they filmed in was closed the last time I was there but you can see in the window the actually spot they sat at. The restaurant across the way was open and has pictures of cast and crew on the walls. It was cool to see all that stuff and go on the gazebo. Haven't been there in years so I'm not sure if anything has changed since then.
"Lost in Translation" was/is the top movie of the decade, starring Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. That is absolutely fantastic movie, (Directed by the way by Sofio Coppola, the daughter of Frnacis Ford Coppola, who directed "Godfather" movies.
Did you know Lost is just 1 side of the coin? The other side is "Her". Watch both of them back to back and then I'll tell you the secret that will blow your mind !
I practiced Zen meditation under a master pretty intensely, many hours every day for a couple of years when I was quite young. This move is the closest thing to that experience. In deep meditation you are basically stuck there with all your own shit, and no one else to deflect or distract yourself from it. I'm not saying I became any kind of Bodhisattva or anything. But I did have to face down a lot. Hardest thing I've ever done (and I completed a very difficult ten year graduate program at Harvard involving learning multiple dead languages, among other things)
Great Movie. . Fun fact the mayor of the town is Bill Murray real brother. Also there was suppose to be a scene that there was a witch who cursed Phil but they decided not to put it in and leave it open. Another movie with same time loop story but more serious and sci fi is The Edge of Tomorrow 2014 with Tom Cruise. Another great Bill Murray sarcastic comedy movie is MeatBalls or the Ghostbusters movies.
For the longest time, I thought the radio DJs were also Brian Doyle Murray and Harold Ramis himself. At least to my ear, they sound a lot like them. I was shocked when I found out they were completely different actors.
2:04 George, apparently the day falls midpoint of an equinox and a solstice. It was not about Winter but the crops. Seeing a shadow references the sky clear enough to see a shadow. If skies are clear it is still cold and Winter will continue to affect the crop. If it is overcast--no shadow and might be raining which makes the ice-snow melt more. Winter weather wears away quicker on the crops. Crops available sooner. The weather here is somewhere in England originally. Because I just now thought cloudy could precipitate snow or ice too Here. So, shadow indicates skys on the Winter Spring Mid-point--a gauge for which way the weather is leaning. One thing (it might get asked later about accuracy. 40% accurate).-Ernie Moore Jr.
You've probably already had at least fifteen hundred people mention this. In the hospital scene, when the homeless man died, you can see the little boy in a wheelchair. That was obviously before Phil learned that he had fallen out of the tree. It might even have been in one of those visits to the hospital that Phil found out about it and chose to prevent it.
Never noticed that before, how cool! Every time I watch this, I notice something like this, with a background character popping up other places. It really is incredible how carefully constructed this movie was.
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@@SoloArt8250This movie has a TON of them, so no shame in missing even most
I've seen this movie a million times. Never noticed that! Thanks!
Bill Murray has said that he considers this movie his best work, and that man has done a LOT of movies.
St Vincent which was in 2014 was a good Bill Murray movie. It co-starred Melissa McCarthy from Mike and Molly TV show fame! :)
And for a movie that he stopped talking to his best mate because of that is saying something
Another fact, is this was sadly the last time he and Harold Ramis ever worked together due to creative differences and arguments on set. They did patch things up before Harold’s death at least, but still sad.
I havent seen where he said that, but I totally agree and totally see how he as an actor could cherish this a bit more than his other roles.
Good to know.
"The movie, as everyone knows, is about a man who finds himself living the same day over and over and over again. He is the only person in his world who knows this is happening, and after going through periods of dismay and bitterness, revolt and despair, suicidal self-destruction and cynical recklessness, he begins to do something that is alien to his nature. He begins to learn."
- Roger Ebert
This truly is a masterpiece; it doesn’t seem so at first, being a Bill Murray comedy, but it’s a wonderful film that many people (myself included) have seen over and over again. It never gets old to me; I absolutely love this movie.
Isn't every Bill Murray comedy a masterpiece, in a way?
Groundhog Day is a movie you’ve seen over and over again? I see what you did there!
Of course it doesn’t get old. Da doo tiss!
Masterpiece is something without flaws. I like this movie, but it has a major flaw (and the girl mentioned it). He does not arrive at places AT EXACTLY the same time. Due to change in his walking/running/stopping. So, how the same things can happen, with exactly same people in exactly same positions? Not to mention that his change in behavior/dialogue, can have a major impact in the immediate events
@@milannesic5718 What does that have to do with anything? The purpose of the movie is to show the purgatory he’s been given and what he does to eventually escape it. Every day for HIM is different, as I should be. This isn’t Back to the Future; he’s locked in his own personal hell. He has completely different days from his perspective over and over for perhaps years or even eons. No one knows for sure. This movie is damn near perfect. It’s a college film class course staple by the way.
The initial script said he was in the loop for 10,000 years but Ramis, the director, has said that it was more like 40-50 years in interviews. Either way, it's ridiculous to imagine.
i had seen this movie multiple times and thought he was in the loop for like a few weeks or months. The first time i heard it was like 30-50 years my head damn near exploded.
@@centuryrox Just learning the piano itself like that would take years.
I just don't know how he didn't lose his mind...well i guess if he'd start over again the next day, so would his brain. That would be like living in hell.
In the DVD commentary he said 10 years.
At some point, there must be a limit to how many memories the human brain can store, no matter how hard you try to learn new stuff. With 10,000 years, surely that limit would be reached at some point.
Sooo love George's childish giggle at the words, "Gobblers Knob". Funny enough, it's a real place.
And Simone's sheer heartfelt tears at Phil being kind was so touching.
You two are each one of a kind, and at the same time two sides to the same coin. Much love.
Intercourse, PA hehehehehehe
There's a town in Canada called "Dildo". It's not too far from "Spread Eagle".
You are all going to Hell (Michigan)
I like how George's eyes lit up when he saw the scene with Phil pigging out in the cafe. I think that was the moment he realized that being stuck in a loop would probably not be that bad.
I've lived next to a mountainous area called Bald Knob too. Always makes me goggle.
The most accurate prediction that's generally been made for how long he was in the loop was 34 years, which clearly changes him as a person. You can actually see him go through the 5 stages of grief throughout the film (Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance).
Harold Ramis said it was thousands of years.
@@garycrow1943 Lol no way!
@@garycrow1943 a thousand? I read it was 72 years on a loop.
@@mrgonzale0978 I have been wrong before, I shall be wrong again, I may be wrong now but I do remember an interview where he said he thought it had taken a grand.
@@garycrow1943 I believe you are correct. The producers said it was thousands of years.
This movie came out when I was 21 and very depressed. It helpmed me to think over a few things. I love it.
I don't know you, but I'm thrilled that you recovered. Long may you remain so, but don't hesitate to ask for help if you need it again.
@@spacewarpphotography1667 Thanks for the kind words. It was a phase that I had to go through; there were issues that I would have to face, sooner or later. Facing them was hard, but ultimately made me stronger.
The older I get the more I can relate to this movie. He was indeed a major A**hole when the film started and he was trying to scam her in the beginning, but after what was probably decades in his time frame he got the opportunity to grow and mature and become a much better person while still remaining physically young. After spending every day for decades with her he genuinely loved her at the end.
The word is Asshole, no need to censor it.
"What About Bob?" is another great Bill Murray movie you should see! Also, fun fact: the guy who read the proclamation during Groundhog Day and whom he later saves from choking at the restaurant is his real-life brother Brian Doyle-Murray.
WHAT ABOUT BOOOOOBBB!
"Oh Fey..."
I second this. 110%. SO FUNNY
NEW HAMPSHIRE?!!!
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I actually think that Phil was being completely honest when he said "I don't even like myself". I suspect his initial hostility towards the world is just a defence mechanism.
Exactly. His self-improvement starts with his getting to know people, developing empathy, and only then can he start to make himself better, finally getting to the point where he really does to begin to like himself.
It's no coincidence, that he broke free only after the day, when he said "No matter what happens tomorrow .... I'm happy now".
Oh, yeah, definitely. He's projecting his self-loathing onto everyone around him.
Gobbler’s Knob is the actual name of the actual park where Punxsutawney, PA does the thing with Punxsutawney Phil, the groundhog. A gobbler is a turkey, wild ones being common in the region. A knob is a hill.
I'm a classical violinist. When I first watched this movie I was envious at how he could relive one day of his life over and over again and train to be that proficient with an instrument.
Takes years to learn one of those skills to that degree of perfection.
He knows a foreign language, has medical experience, first aid, mechanical experience, a masterful piano player and ice sculptor, knows everyone in town as well as their personal histories and their exact schedules down to the second.
I'm guessing he's been stuck in that loop for many years.
My favorite fact about this movie is that it was shot in reverse order. Ramis knew that Murray typically got meaner and more short tempered as a film shoot went on, so they filmed the ending first and Phil got worse as Bill got worse.
@@chanceneck8072 i like a bunch of movies he's in, but not really him specifically... that is to say his characters (which all seem kind of similarly obnoxious and unlikable, even when other characters are reacting to him as if he was being "charming", so i take it that's his personality "shining" through).
he is pretty good at being comedically sarcastic tho, i'll give him that
Maybe some of the "last day" party scenes this may be true. But I think they would've done it logisticly and financially like most films: ALL of the festival reporting scenes. ALL of the wake-up scenes. ALL of the Ryerson street scenes. Etc
I've heard that too, but I've also heard it's a myth. I hope it's true though! 😄
@@chanceneck8072 He's a human being. Sometimes people are shitty and sometimes they're great. For every story of Murray getting temperamental on set or something like that there's a story of him just deciding to hang out with random people and make their day. Such as this time when he crashed these guys bachelor party: th-cam.com/video/r3-SGUCFFc0/w-d-xo.html
@@chanceneck8072 I mean yea, maybe you should if you're going to get super defensive anytime someone says something to you. I wasn't even attacking you or anything, just giving you a counter example of Murray being a cool guy and for whatever reason you felt the need to get super sarcastic. So maybe take a breather from the internet? idk. 🤷♂
Harold Ramis, the director, said that they figured he was living the same day for 30+ years.
Bill Murrey playing himself in Zombieland is short but memorable.
Bill Fucking Murray!
He never was a great practical joker.
@@MrParkerman6 His middle name is James... Dumbass!
The philosophy of this film is fascinating. On the one hand, losing your ability to die is probably the most terrifying curse imaginable. But putting the inexorable march of time on hold until you learn to stop wasting it would be an amazing blessing.
The beginning of February, which falls roughly halfway between the winter solstice and the spring equinox, has long been a significant time of the year in many cultures.
Among the Celts, for example, it was the time of Imbolc, observed in anticipation of the birth of farm animals and the planting of crops, and February 2 is also the date of the Christian festival of Candlemas, also called the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin.
During the Middle Ages there arose the belief that animals such as the badger and the bear interrupted their hibernation to appear on this day. If the day was sunny and the animal saw its shadow, six more weeks of winter weather remained. If, however, the day was cloudy, it was a sign that the weather during the following weeks would be mild, leading to an early spring.
German immigrants to the United States carried the legend with them, and in Pennsylvania the groundhog came to be substituted for the badger.
Groundhog Day was celebrated on Wednesday, February 2, 2022.
Now they just pull the groundhog out of a cage and pretend to talk to it and then arbitrarily decide whether it saw it's shadow. If it had any real significance in the past, it is completely lost now.
Thank you for sharing :)
@@jbacunnthey probably base it off of the Farmer's Almanac predictions for the year instead of it being completely arbitrary. Other than that though, you've hit the nail on the head.
No, actually the beginning of February falls roughly halfway between the summer solstice and the autumn equinox.
Hello from the Southern Hemisphere, the RIGHT hemisphere!!!!
It also provides a nice counter to Halloween. Halloween is roughly the same amount of time from the winter solstice as Groundhog Day is, and Halloween starts at end of the day/beginning of the evening, and Groundhog Day is an early morning holiday.
He was stuck for 33 years and 350 days according to estimates. In a deleted line from the script, Phil actually admits to being stuck in the loop for 10,000 years.
The film also makes a point of showing Phil as a liar. If he lied about the ten thousand years, and seeing the show 100 times, we only really have hard evidence for 42 days. 36 we see on screen and 8 more are mentioned.
This seems unlikely, given his skills at the end, but he could be a really quick learner.
Also, Phil the groundhog predicted "six more weeks" on the first day, which is 42 days.
The 10,000 years line was from an early version of the script, not merely a deleted scene. The entire tone of the movie changed quite a bit after that version, so it's not really relevant to the final film.
Harold Ramis initially estimated that it was about 10 years, but later revised his estimate to about 30, based on the plausibility of Phil learning his various skills.
Director and fellow Ghostbuster Harold Ramis originally stated that he thought Murray’s character had been stuck in Punxsutawney for ten years, however in 2009 he admitted the estimate was far too short.
“It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything,” said Ramis, “and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years.”
@@vex2788 No, Ramis said it was 10,000 years. He was a Buddhist and they believe it takes 10,000 years to perfect the human soul
@@morphman86 In Interstellar when they go to the bad planet and come back and 23 years have passed. We see actors playing Murph's children as 'evidence' that 23 years passed. The guy left behind in the ship doesn't look 23 years older. We just believe it because it's the story. Groundhog Day is a metaphorical story - it's not a literal story where he took x amount of years for Groundhog Day to stop happening. In a way, it's a funnier version of The Shawshank Redemption which came out in cinemas a year later. It doesn't how many years Andy or Red or Brooks are in prison, it's the passing of time that's important.
For another iconic Bill Murray movie I would suggest "What About Bob?" It also has several other familiar faces from other films you've watched on the channel.
What About Bob, heck yeah! Came here to say that, but you beat me by 59 minutes!
In a very crowded contest of great Bill Murray movies, “What About Bob?” is the winner.
also Caddyshack
*What About Bob?* is Bill Murray’s funniest movie, imo. Excellent recommendation.
What about Bob? and Quick Change are probably my two favorite Murray movies. Quick Change is a very underrated film and it seems like most people haven't even heard of it.
"I miss concerts"
"Oh, Me too"
"I miss moshpits"
"Well..."
Pure gold, right there :D :D :D
Someone tried to work out how long he was trapped in the same day to learn everything he learned and time his saving of people so perfectly by the end. It was estimated he was stuck reliving Groundhog Day for 33 years and 350 days before he finally broke free of the loop to the day after Groundhog Day.
That's just the minimum amount of time it would take for him to do all the stuff. Chances are it took him much longer than that to figure stuff out as well as just take days off. I think I read somewhere that in the original script it took like 1000 years for him to truly change as a person which was the precondition for the days to continue on as normal.
The original script had him trapped for 10,000 years. They settled on 10 years, however one website calculated it was just under 9yrs Phil was trapped.
Harold Ramis originally said the time was 10 years, then much later he did indeed say it was approximately 33 years and 350 days. I don't remember how he came to that calculation.
@@benjaminscott8198 33 years
That would be about 12,000 days. There's also the myth of 10,000 hours to perfect a skill, but that's been debunked.
In the end, Phil had to change himself, and that was what broke the loop.
The movie “Stripes” is a must if you’re wanting some more Bill Murray. And the addition of Harold Ramis and John Candy in it just makes it even funnier. Enjoy.
@@TheRealMirCat haha, nice. 🙌🏽😁
PJ Soles 🔥🔥
It's such a crazy funny movie
For Bill Murray movies I highly recommend ‘Lost In Translation’, great film.
Also ‘The Life Aquatic with Steve Zisou’, and ‘Little Shop of Horrors’ are both worth a watch too.
Those all 3 movies are great!
And 'What About Bob'.
Scrooged!
For a side seldom seen in Bill Murray films, he has acted in several non-comedic roles, the best of which is “The Razor’s Edge”. It showcases the depth and range of his abilities.
Also STRIPES! th-cam.com/video/mV9kxSK_-0I/w-d-xo.html (warning: Trailer contains a ton of spoilers)
When he hugged the insurance salesman and said "I don't know where you're going but, can you call in sick?" was improv. He made it up right there.
For another great Bill Murray movie, watch Stripes. He stars with Harold Ramis, John Candy, Judge Reinhold and a couple more actors I've seen before but can't remember their names.
When they kissed outside after he showed her the ice sculpture it started snowing which he noticed was different. That is when the loop was broken.
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I live close to Punxsy and there is a gobbler's knob just out of town. The movies used the park downtown to represent it, but it's actually a bit of a hike from there. The event has becomes more and more popular since the release of the movie, and for the most part the town is portrayed somewhat accurately in terms of both appearance and the people who live there.
Fun Fact: This was Bill Murray favorite movie in his entire life.
He is still alive, dumbass.
It’s also the film that killed his friendship with Harold. Fortunately they reconciled before he died. I do wonder how they worked together for the Ghostbusters game.
One of my favorite moments is when Phil is reading a book in the diner and looks up and around and is just in the moment. Be here now. I make it a point to do this myself once a day. It just feels good to do it.
"What's so terrible about winter?"
Spoken like a true Canuck!
The choking victim, the guy holding up the groundhog is Bill's brother, Brian Doyle-Murray.
Gotta love Harold Ramis films. Had a fun comedic eye, he did.
(I love his underseen dark comedy, The Ice Harvest.)
if you notice, while it is the same song, it is not at the same point in the song so you know it's not a repeat day
I'd recommend watching The Man Who Knew Too Little at some point. It's definitely not his most well known or loved film, but it's fun, and I really love it.
Hes not human! neither am I lol
Very good movie as well
Bill Murray movies are like pizza. Even when it's bad they are still pretty good. His worst movie might be Where the Buffalo Roam. Then there are all his roles in the Wes Anderson films. Next level Bill Murray. People also forget his small but superb roll in Tootsie.
You probably didn’t realize that the master of ceremonies on gobblers knob (the man choking in the restaurant) is Bill Murray’s older brother, Brian Doyle-Murray. They have appeared in several movies together such as Caddy Shack and Ghostbuster II.
The actor who plays Buster (the guy who hosts the event and chokes later) is Brian Doyle Murray -- Bill Murray's older brother.
For a long time, I thought one of the radio DJs was also Brian Doyle Murray. And the other one was Ramis. Those voices sound a lot like them, at least to me. I was really shocked when I found out I was wrong.
In the early half of the film, you can see the subtle introduction of characters in the background that Phil won't meet until later in the film - such as the in the background in the first Diner shot, you can see briefly the lady that Phil hits on, later, and takes to the cinema. Attention to detail, there. Great film.
Another great Bill Murray movie is "Scrooged" it's a Xmas Movie. Or another one is "What about Bob" . And another is "The Man who know too little"
Bill Murray top 3 movies
1) Broken Flowers
2) Lost in Translation
3) Groundhog Day
He looped for 50ish years. "Lost in Translation" and "What About Bob" are terrific Murray films.
Those are the two movies he stars in that I recommended, too.
Wrong, it was 10 years, dumbass.
Rushmore, The Life Aquatic.
The screenwriter’s initial plan was to have Connors trapped in the time loop for several millennia. The original script contains a final confession by Connors to his love interest Rita that “I’ve been waiting for you every day for ten thousand years.”This first draft also struck a much darker tone in making it clear that Connors was the victim of near-unimaginable torture. At one point, Connors describes his fate as one of “total despair.”
The final film explicitly cut any reference to the length of Connors’ penure, but his time consigned to purgatory appears to have been much more reasonable. Director Harold Ramis, who died in 2014, once told the New York Times that Connors was stuck in Groundhog Day for only 10 years. Later, in a 2009 email to Heeb Magazine, Ramis would revise his estimate. “It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and, allotting (sic) for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years,” he wrote.
There's so much to love about this film. And since everyone else here has said most of what I'd say about this film and Bill Murray, I'd like to mention something that is a bit of a tangent.
Stephen Tobolowsky, the actor who played the annoying Ned, also has a small role in the Christopher Nolan film "Memento." He's known for playing wacky weird characters like Ned, but his part in Memento is so serious and tragic. It really made me appreciate the depth of many actors like him that are often overlooked in minor roles.
Memento's such a great film. Still one of my favorite Nolan films all these years later.
Dying is easy, comedy is hard, as they say. Comic actors often have a lot of range.
He played a KKK leader in “Mississippi Burning”
I love the look on Ned's face when he gets punched
Remember Sammy Jankis...
Woodstock, IL is the town they filmed in. It looks exactly like the movie.
Bill Murray's first feature film was "Meatballs". He is a camp counsellor. The movie was filmed in Ontario. You should also check out "Caddy Shack" where he plays the ground keeper in an exclusive golf club.
I loved "Meatballs" when I was a kid! I wanted to go away to camp and be a counselor like him; I did eventually work as a counselor one summer but I've yet to say I was as cool as Tripper.
"Lost in Translation" because only about 30 people have already suggested it, AND THATS NOT ENOUGH! "Lost in Translation" is one of my favorite movies of all time!
Stripes would be my next Bill Murray film. Just a funny film from beginning to end. Quick Change is a very underrated one as well. And while Meatballs is dated, it's a very sweet film...and Canadian! Directed by Ivan Reitman, as was Stripes.
I would also recommend Stripes. The last few scenes in the movies goes a little beyond the edge of believability, but hey, it's a comedy movie afterall.
Stripes is one of the best movies ever. Quick Change is criminally underrated.
I was going to say the same.
Love it
R.I.P. Ivan Reitman.
Quick Change > Stripes
the amount of time he spent reliving that day is insane when you take into account all he learned all he remembered and didnt forget and all of the time he spent just figuring it out and then the days hi did the final deed.
So glad you had the chance to watch this one! I live about an hour from Woodstock, IL where they filmed this and have been to a couple of the actual festivities (which only last for an hour or so as it is outside in the freezing cold). Another great Bill Murray film to add is an older film called "Stripes". He and Harold Ramis are hysterical! Ramis is actually buried in Arlington Heights, IL too (an hour from Woodstock).
St. Vincent is among my favorites as well.
Keep in mind that there is a new Stripes Directors Cut. While it is interesting, do not react to it as it includes a ton that was edited out, and mostly for good reason.
Groundhog Day was founded by the first Punxsutawney Phil before the Dawn of Human History. It is the oldest and most revered holiday in the Americas. Canada excluded, because they only have winter.
The best Bill Murray comedy, imo, is “What About Bob?”. I cannot recommend it highly enough. If you want to see him do drama, “Lost In Translation” is excellent, too.
I'm baby stepping I'm doing the work I'm not a slacker.
@@Geerladenlad If someone dislikes me, I just say their phone is temporarily out of order.
Yeah "What About Bob?" is great, Bill Murray at his most nonchalant-obnoxiousness and the therapist is great in his role, too
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Honestly, just watch all of Wes Anderson's films with Bill Murray in them. He's the main star in Rushmore and The Life Aquatic (his best performance), and has smaller roles in most of the rest.
Another fun/silly Bill Murray is The Man Who Knew Too Little. One of my dad's favorites.
My favorite fun fact about Groundhog day is that the groundhog is right about the weather roughly 40% of the time, meaning that it is statistically less accurate than a person making a random guess would be.
So what you're saying is he actually pretty good at predicting the weather, but he's annoyed enough at us humans to tell us the wrong thing? :P
I know this is 2 years too late and you'll never read this but i believe the director says he believed Phil had at least been reliving things for 10, 000 years.
If the groundhog sees its shadow, that means it's sunny and clear that day - an indicator that cold weather will continue. If it's cloudy, warm weather is coming.
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The movie's german title (translates to "and daily the groundhog greets") has become a phrasing that made its way into common german speech.
If somebody does something over and over again so that it is already expected by everyone, the phrase is used.
For example a polititian says "we are going to lower the taxes this year" the news presenter may comment "and daily the groundhog greets".
Funny, that this movie influenced German phrase usage !
German middle age traditions created Groundhog Day in early America !!
I've heard a Russian also describe a phrase that's very obviously based on this movie.
The whole movie became a meme, like the phrase 'déjà vu' before and "a glitch in the Matrix" later.
I used the phrase "Ist heute etwa Murmeltiertag?" even myself once when a winter cold front came back…
Politics wise we have a lot more references to history repeating, like "Die Renten sind sicher" and "Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu bauen"…
"Groundhog day" is also US military slang for doing the same unpleasant things day after day.
@@DrD0000M That's correct. In Russian you will almost never hear someone mentioning a 'déjà vu'. Instead, the title of the movie is used to describe such situations.
And yes Gobbler's Knob is the actual name of the real place where they do the groundhog's day ceremony.
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou is one of my favorite Murray films. I did not expect it to hit me the way it did. I wept like a baby towards the end.
Great Wes Anderson film staring Bill and Willem Dafoe as Klaus. But your the B squad leader.
The Life Aquatic is his finest performance as an actor. He was also great in Rushmore.
Hey, no mocking Gobbler's Knob. It's a real place. According to one source, when people travel to Punxsutawney, PA to see where Phil the groundhog makes his annual weather prediction, they often spend fruitless time searching downtown, because that's where it was located in the movie Groundhog Day. In fact, Hollywood made that up (the film wasn't even made in Punxsutawney). The real location is a couple of miles out of town (Punxsutawney) in a little clearing at the top of a wooded hill (Gobbler's Knob).
I like to think that the reason his time-loop didn't end the first time Rita stayed is because he didn't believe that he deserved her yet. We accept the love we believe we deserve, and it was only after he became a better person that he believed he deserved to move forward with her, thus ending his time-loop. Just my own take on it 😊 Thanks for sharing!
She needs to get stuck in her own time loop. She doesn't deserve him and she's irritatingly naive and stuck up.
The first time loop film started with a short film called 12:01 PM staring starring Kurtwood Smith. Groundhog Day became the first major film and successful time loop film.
Other great Bill Murray movies to watch are called 'The Man Who Knew Too Little' and 'What About Bob?'.
Same 2 as i said.. both great fun
You have problem seen him in other movies recently, including Bill Murray movies. The actor that plays Buster is Brian Murray, Bill's older brother. He is also in Caddyshack, Scrooged, Ghostbusters II. He is a great character actor. Oh and according to Harold Ramis, he was stuck for 10 years living that day over and over again.
Oh, here's one Bill Murray film I had heard about for years, but only watched a few days ago: "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" directed by Wes Anderson. It's got funny and dramatic parts, and a very unusual filming style, similar to Anderson's "The Grand Budapest Hotel."
As someone suggested "What about Bob?" is another must watch with B. Murray. A different role, but he aces it as always :)
I would recommend Lost in Translation as well. It is one of my favorite movies and stars Bill Murray. Also for another more "modern" movie if you haven't seen it Zombieland, he is not a star of it but the short bit Murray is in it is great.
The city of Woodstock, Illinois stood in for Punxsutawney. The square looks exactly the same today as it did in the movie.
Two of my favorite Bill Murray movies are Scrooged and The Man Who Knew too Little.
He was also great in Tootsie but he only had a supporting role and Dustin Hoffman kind of overshadowed him.
The Man Who Knew Too Little is a very funny movie with a very good cast. I think it is the only movie I like Peter Gallagher in.
Some estimates put his time in that loop at hundreds or thousands of years, to master all those skills, learn languages, and many more that weren't put all in the final cut of the film. The dude memorised the lives of every citizen. And the timing of all events that day.
And being a movie of the time you get laughs, some tears and good arcs and this case GREAT character development.
Top 5 for me.
I remember seeing this in theatres and during the kidnap scene with Phil and Bill Murray, he looked sick as shit and miserable and I thought they nailed the "at the end of your rope" look. I found out later that during the driving scene, the groundhog was biting/attacking Bill Murray, so the look if misery on his face made more sense.
Bill Murray Films to see (in no particular order or preference: Stripes, CaddyShack, What About Bob? , Lost in Translation, Rushmore, Quick Change, The Life of the Aquatic with Steve Zissou, Meatballs, On the Rocks, Mad Dog and Glory and Kingpin.
*Lost in Translation* with Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. Another movie in which he displays his best acting skills. 🙌🙏
Harold Ramis said that Phil was stuck in the same day for about 10 years. Later on he revised that saying it was probably more like 30-40 years.
Great movie. Lost in Translation is a great contrast and alternative. It does not matter how long the Murray character was stuck. It is the movement from despair to enlightenment that matters. Green Card is a good Andie McDowell movie.
Simone is kind of right. Groundhog Day is a corruption of a German tradition in which seeing signs of activity by Badgers was an omen for an early spring. This was carried to the United States by the Pennsylvania Dutch (German immigrants) and was transformed into the tale of the Groundhog.
Now the celebration of this day coincides with the Christian Candlemass. February 2nd was slated as the day Jesus was brought to Jewish temple which was someone’s first purification ritual and the ceremony of redemption of the first born was held. The name literally comes from holding a candle lighting mass on that day.
In many orthodox churches this is also the day where the fellowship would gather to take down the manger display. It would also be accompanied by the Feast of Candlemas.
In Belgium it is traditional to have a pancake and waffle feast on this day. In France you were to feast all day on crepes.
In Germany this was also the time in which you would bring all the family and workers together as it was the “farmers new year”. On this day you started the preparation of equipment and fields for work.
This also comes full circle with the German myth of Badgers. As if you see signs of badgers you must hurry as spring will arrive soon. If you see no sign of stinking badgers on this day it is supposed to indicate you have a full 6 weeks to ready for planting.
Simone & George, in an early draft of the screenplay, Phil Connors admits to being trapped in a time loop for 10,000 years. However, a film blog worked it out that, at a bare minimum, Phil had to be trapped in the time loop for 33 years and 350 days. He could have been trapped longer than that, but no less.
And I recommend the Bill Murray movie, "The Razor's Edge."
Also to answer your earlier question: Groundhog Day was originally a pagan Celtic holiday called Imbolc or Oimelc. Imbolc symbolizes the halfway point between the Midwinter celebration known as Yule (the winter solstice) and the Festival of Ostara (spring equinox). Traditionally people would look to see if hibernating animals were waking up and emerging from their dens - this was seen as an indicator of whether or not there would be an early or late spring. To an agrarian society, this was vital information. It would help them to determine when to start planting crops.
Later on, Christianity adopted the festival of Imbolc into the season of Candlemas. Candlemas celebrates the infant Jesus' presentation at the Temple; and (because in Judaism giving birth made women ritually unclean - being ritually unclean, FYI, is not the same as sin. It is not a sin to give birth.) Candlemas is also the time when Mary went through the purification ritual at the Temple.
Like years and years and years. You have to remember how many things he got good at. Piano, french, ice sculpting etc etc. That takes a long time to learn. That's not even counting all the time he took to learn about everyone, learn about the sequence of events all around town etc etc.
If you're looking for good Bill Murray films Lost in Translation is a great choice. Don't know how it would work in a reaction style video, but definitely check it out, even if it's in your own time!
The actor who plays the mayor is Brian Doyle Murray, Bill Murray’s brother. He was on SCTV and had a small role in Caddyshack, amongst many others.
It's really unfortunate but during this movie, Bill Murray and the director, Harold Ramis (aka Egon Spangler), had a falling out and they didn't reconcile until shortly before Harold's death.
Yeah, Raimis wanted to keep it light while Murray really wanted to lean onto the darker aspects of having a person repeat (possibly thousands of years worth of) days on repeat
On the other hand, Ramis was so smart and so familiar with Murray that he filmed all the end of movie scenes first because he knew how irritable Bill became over the course of filming a movie and that it would make his grumpy scenes earlier in the movie easier to film later in the process. It's just too bad that it still led to their falling out.
Bill Murray had a great part in "Little Shop of Horrors" (1986). Rick Moranis, Steve Martin, Vincent Gardenia, Ellen Greene, Christopher Guest, Levi Stubbs. heck, everyone was great in that movie.
Great stuff guys! Definitely consider Lost In Translation. It's a different quieter type of movie but a fabulous performance by Bill Murray and Scarlet Johannsen.
Yes, "Gobbler's Knob" is a thing.
And if you want more fun town names, here are a few from my state of Arkansas:
Toad Suck
Bald Knob
Possum Grape
Locust Grove
Lost Bridge Village
Smackover
The more I watch this movie the more I like the actor who plays Ned😅
PS: Harold Ramis who wrote and directed this, as well as many other Bill Murray movies including "Ghostbusters" and "Stripes" (both of which he also co-starred in).....he was Canadian, an original member of SCTV.
Bill Murray in: The Man Who Knew Too Little
I believe there was a sequence that was cut from the script where he would go to the library and ready a page every day. Then at the end of the movie you see him pretty much finished the last book in the library. Though I think they have it sort of cut down to the point where he just spend like 30-40 years in the town.
I'm really impressed with both of your guessing- immediately realizing that "He's honest with her, so maybe he has to be honest with everybody". @18:40 you hit the nail on the head with the question "Is what he's doing commendable or scummy?" I think there's a threshold where it passes from scummy to commendable. In the end he uses all his acquired knowledge not to seduce her, because at that point he probably could, but basically to convince her that he loves her the way she is and all she stands for- a totally different goal. This is one of my favorite movies. Now watch "What About Bob?" :)
He stops trying to convince her and just is.
I live close to Woodstock, IL where they filmed this. Every year they hold a celebration in town for Groundhog day! There's a footprint where he stepped so people can see where he actually stepped in the hole on the street. Of course, the hole is filled now. The restaurant they filmed in was closed the last time I was there but you can see in the window the actually spot they sat at. The restaurant across the way was open and has pictures of cast and crew on the walls. It was cool to see all that stuff and go on the gazebo. Haven't been there in years so I'm not sure if anything has changed since then.
"Lost in Translation" was/is the top movie of the decade, starring Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson. That is absolutely fantastic movie, (Directed by the way by Sofio Coppola, the daughter of Frnacis Ford Coppola, who directed "Godfather" movies.
Did you know Lost is just 1 side of the coin? The other side is "Her". Watch both of them back to back and then I'll tell you the secret that will blow your mind !
Simone’s welcomes are the best 🤣🤣 thanks for another great reaction guys!
A really fun Bill Murry movie is 'What about Bob?"
I practiced Zen meditation under a master pretty intensely, many hours every day for a couple of years when I was quite young. This move is the closest thing to that experience. In deep meditation you are basically stuck there with all your own shit, and no one else to deflect or distract yourself from it. I'm not saying I became any kind of Bodhisattva or anything. But I did have to face down a lot. Hardest thing I've ever done (and I completed a very difficult ten year graduate program at Harvard involving learning multiple dead languages, among other things)
Great Movie. . Fun fact the mayor of the town is Bill Murray real brother. Also there was suppose to be a scene that there was a witch who cursed Phil but they decided not to put it in and leave it open. Another movie with same time loop story but more serious and sci fi is The Edge of Tomorrow 2014 with Tom Cruise. Another great Bill Murray sarcastic comedy movie is MeatBalls or the Ghostbusters movies.
The man in the hallway at the B&B is also one of his brothers.
Bill was also joined by his 3 living brothers (1 died long ago and they have a sister) in the movie Scrooged.
The "Do you think it'll be an early spring?" guy is another one of the Murray Bros, if I'm not mistaken.
For the longest time, I thought the radio DJs were also Brian Doyle Murray and Harold Ramis himself. At least to my ear, they sound a lot like them. I was shocked when I found out they were completely different actors.
In PA (and a few other States), "Knob" is used to describe a rounded hill or mountain.
"Lost in translation" is a fantastic movie with Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson that I can really recommend.
2:04 George, apparently the day falls midpoint of an equinox and a solstice. It was not about Winter but the crops. Seeing a shadow references the sky clear enough to see a shadow. If skies are clear it is still cold and Winter will continue to affect the crop. If it is overcast--no shadow and might be raining which makes the ice-snow melt more. Winter weather wears away quicker on the crops. Crops available sooner. The weather here is somewhere in England originally. Because I just now thought cloudy could precipitate snow or ice too Here. So, shadow indicates skys on the Winter Spring Mid-point--a gauge for which way the weather is leaning. One thing (it might get asked later about accuracy. 40% accurate).-Ernie Moore Jr.
I really want them to announce a sequel to Groundhog Day, then just re-release this back into theaters.
I think I've heard that before.
that's awesome! you win the intarwebs for today
Not a sequel, but Palm Springs is a great time loop movie.
Stephen Tobolowsky, played Groundhog Day’s favorite insurance agent 'Ned Ryerson'
BING !