Same! I finally got over my weight loss plateau as well. For cardio I walk miles to work and miles home… at a brisk pace. I also walk, or skate to the grocery store or to run errands. Where I live isn’t very walkable, however I like how the cardio’s improved my life
I always do my cardio after weights. It's a good feeling. Takes way longer at the gym but I always feel better and I can feel how much healthier my heart is as a result. I make the weight room and my cardio a package deal, it's my routine.
It’s just genius how he talks out of breath to match what he is doing on video. Really smart and clever realism from a film student background I can appreciate this.
This shouldn't even be a concern for anyone not trying to compete. Get gains in both categories to enhance yourself the most possible and your body will thank you.
I can't even begin to explain how many of my friends refuse to ever do any cardio classes cause they truly believe that the only thing in life that matters is purely progressive overload and hypertrophy in the gym
@@peterman8848peole need to learn to stop lifting to be strong and start lifting to be strong for life, joint training, cardio, swimming, and there physic will be a lot better than u think, mobility to a lot of tha
This channel is amazing. I started small, 20 minute weights then Leslie sansone 1 mile walk after. Been doing it for a month and feeling myself getting stronger and breathing better. Feeling optimistic
Natural bodybuilder for 20 years...Best shape I was ever in I did sprints at 5 in the morning....Monday thru Friday....20 minute session...sprint 10 seconds..decelerate then walk back to starting spot...1:50....total 2 minute cycle...repeat 10 times... Worked out Monday/Thursday full body cycle workout...40 minutes total. Wednesday/Friday/Sunday ran 3 miles low intensity. End result was single digit bodyfat at 210 pounds...just as strong in the 3 major lifts and much stronger in bodyweight exercises.
The last part of this video is everything. That's why I like Jeff's channel. He'll lay the detailed facts out.... then wrap it up with some tips but finishes with the real point.... lift, sleep, eat. I adjust carbs according to my intensity level.
He’s just saying do it after lifting. Being drenched in sweat from cardio then going to lifting is really deflating. Doing a nice strength lift then doing cardio feels complete.
@@johnflaherty810 Tbh I think it depends on your prioirities - just do the one you care about more first since you will have the most energy at the beginning. I've done both and I always prefer cardio first when I'm more focused on cardio training, and lifting first when I'm more focused on strength training.
I was a runner for five years, which means I used to run 10+ km daily. I have lost lots of muscle during that time. Now I have started gym. Still I do 5-10 min cardio and 1 to 1.5 hrs strength, and now my body has started coming in shape. I must say if you do only cardiovascular exercise, you will definitely lose so much muscle.
See, this makes perfect sense.Because I do weight training.And then I go do cardio run a mile and I don't think i'm losing any muscle mass think you for putting the truth on you TH-cam channel God bless
Jeff C. never said that doing cardio will catabolize muscle. It's called a strawman and Nippard isn't fully quoting Jeff C. Go find Jeff C.s full discussion on the topic.
Yeah that's the problem with chosit 5 sec clips, Jeff Nipples tryna start drama. He should at least have linked the full video so we can see what Jeff Cavalier actually said in context. @@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.
@@Mew__Self experimentation is valid. If he's still making good gains, even with running a mile after each session, then I don't see the problem with him sharing his experience here. People really just look for anything they can to talk badly about other people.
Cardio is better for the heart. Helps with stamina, and overall, fun cause gotta go fast. Best athletes in the world combine it all. And they look great too!
@@masonrawls6436 Either run (3 or 5km) with the aim of beating previous time. Bike, row or find a nice big hill to speed march up like you're on war maneuvers.
Fiding jeff, dr mike and sean is the best thing happened to me for going to the gym the fact that in my country not many people know much i can say watching them and listening to them im smarter than 95% of the coaches in weightlifiting truly incredible especially jeff has been the best out of them three
I find having good cardio made lifting much easier, especially heavier weights. You can also recover faster and potentially take less rest because your heart rate will fall back to normal faster.
@@GaedeRafael your hormones take a huge hit overtime with less sleep. probably should check your bloodwork. idk how old you are but trt has been a miracle for me as my hormones stay normal even if i sleep 4 hours every single day. im god now.
This week I didn't think things through and did a heavy leg workout immediately before volleyball practice and that was the biggest mistake. My left leg was so overworked, it wouldn't stop trembling and pain kept shooting up my entire leg with every step. That bit of advice to have at least one or two days between is huge.
He wasn't right about the stretch portion of the repetition... and he doesn't look like he ever does cardio, so not sure about the veracity of his statement.
I fricking love Jeff, before finding him I used to get up at 8 and go to school then come back and play video games. Now he has me on his PPL program and I have been getting up at 5, going to sleep at 9, lifting consistently, eating amazing and even learning to play chess. Thank you Jeff
@@loganbooker1084 Its a german meme from a beer ad from Paulaner. People drink in a beer garden and make up stories, so whenever people dont believe your story its a story from the paulaner garten
1 hour of lifting and 1 hour of easy/moderate cycling so far for the past 3 months. Lost 40lbs and kept on increasing my lifting weights every week and muscle definition was starting to show. It can be done people, just need to eat lots of protein 200g a day is what my goal was with 1,800 calories.
Jeff wasn’t even that wrong, conditioning work with your strength work could be killing your gains, and Jeff even proved Jeff’s point by saying it again in his video.
I always run a mile as fast as I can before full body strength training every gym visit. This is making me reconsider. It gives me incredible endurance.
even if it did hurt my gains a little i mean oh well. i have 0 desire to lift competitively. i just wanna be healthy and confident in my own body. currently on week 4 of lifting weights and i’m absolutely loving it. i’ve never been so motivated before.
I've been doing cardio with weights since I started in basically the same way Jeff says and have found I'm stronger, recover quicker, take far lest rest among other things than my friends who don't do cardio.
With this new knowledge, I will still feel better to just separate by lifting day and cardio days. Make me feel more energize and I can do other life stuffs that don't involve exercise.
I usually do more cardio in the summers, running to then do some swimming in a lake after the runs and cut down to 2-3 days a week weightlifting, even did a marathon then when winter comes I cut down on the cardio to just some stairmaster, inclined treadmill walks and up the weightlifting to 4-6 times a week depending on work. I never feel bored of the gym or cardio and I still keep my body fit no matter what time of year
Cardio can greatly improve your weightlifting sessions. Ever since I started cycling, I am no longer out of breath after a hard set. In fact, I rarely hit HR Zone 3 after an all out set of squats. I can push my muscle to maximum easier since my cardiovascular fitness is no longer a limiting factor. Do cardio!
I'm with them on this one. Also, I heard Thomas DeLauer say the same thing 8 years ago, and I put it in my workout routine. went from a 400lb fat mess to a 170 clean slate, then to a comfortable high muscle 220.
I loved watching Jeff. I don't believe him on most of his stuff, whether something is optimal or not. But he still taught me how to move during certain lifts and really helps understand the mind muscle connection and just learning the muscular structure with the markers.
Or just ask a rugby/american football player for their workout routines. These guys are absolutely massive while having the stamina to run around explosively for a long time
It depends on how you define conditioning work. Training for a marathon will kill every ounce of gains. Light to moderate cardio is fine. Red shorts Jeff summed it up perfectly.
I like how you say "probably not" and then completely agree with him. From my understanding what he's saying is "separate your cardio from your lifting" not "don't do cardio at all or you'll lose your gains."
I was about to write something like that, and weird majority here don't saw it. Dude should've used "Depends on the context" instead of "Probably not".
I have progressed to an almost ‘semi-pro’ level with my cardio with biking. My zone 2 is around 300 watts average. I do that constantly throughout the week and still lift six days per week and make great strength and muscle gains.
So yes guys, that thing that we've been doing to get the better version of our bodys since the origin of the humanity (running) is good for u Who could say😅😅
High intensity plyometrics has been shown to be more beneficial for strength & power development than weightlifting so programme this into leg day!!! I know it is not necessarily c.v. but can be e.g. single leg bounds into tuck jumps tumbles followed by 1-6 minutes skipping for passive recovery or jog/walk!
My warm up is this: 1) 10 minutes on the crosstrainer/elliptical, 2) push and pull a sled (around 10 pulls and 10 pushes), 3) short shoulder warm up exercise I saw of squat university 4) if it's leg day then I will also do the 20x3 clamshell, leg raises one at a time while lying down and side leg lifts with the same reps. I have a bad back so I have to feel warmed up enough to hit the weights.
This was actually in response to athleanx taking a jab at Jeff Nippard in one of his latest videos. What athleanx did was distasteful, this was still okay.
Thank you so much for posting this! So much misinformation on the Web... people talking without really knowing anything... I run 2 hours a day every day, except for Sunday, which I run fir 3 to 4 hours... I go to the gym 3 times a week, lift very heavy, low reps, compound exercise. Eat on a slight surplus, 1 gram if protein per pound and I make great gains. Sure, if I didn't run, maybe they would be even better but still, I run heaps and get stronger and bigger every week...
Doing cardio is sooo underrated. When I started doing cardio and even HIIT workouts. I notice with hyperthropht workouts I recover faster and get better quality sets. Because of my cardiovascular improvement
I've implemented moderate to high intensity cardio, 30min Fridays; once a week. I've noticed I've gotten a lot faster, my wind is a lot better, and I feel even better. I've still been making gains in every department. :) Seems like the perfect balance.
@@JT-ow6qj so if the *only* people who *could* be affected know it *won't* affect them, the theory is moot? meaning that the _other_ people who _shouldn't_ worry, and _can't_ be affected...are affected? What exactly is your counter, here?
A lot of runners and HEAVY cardio people worry about it more than mass monsters. People doing 2-3 hours of cardio almost every day see significant loss of muscle.
@@HeadCannonPrimeTell that to rugby players , gymnasts , football players, hockey players, etc... people just train like shit, don't have a good diet and think the cardio is the problem.
The magic sauce is right at the end - lifting consistently, sleeping well, getting the right nutrition. Lifting consistently is easy, a pleasure even. The other two take a lot of self-discipline (more than I can usually muster 😅)
The fact I watched athlean x when I was a kid and believed him so I literally cut out all forms of running when I was a great cross country athlete just because I was scared of not being able to put on muscle. Now I do both. I do at least 8km 6 days a week with 20km on the weekend with weight training afterwards and I’ve never been bigger
As someone that is a long distance runner (in high school, 19:30 5k, 46:55 10K, and 1 half-marathon at 1:48:38), I don’t separate my leg days from running days because I run 5-6 days per week. I don’t run as much on leg days but I also don’t care if it hurts my gains, as my goals are 190 bench press and 225 squat, and I got a long time to do that and not a long time to set a school record for 5k.
I thought you were above taking 4 seconds clips out of context, and basically agreeing with the original content. I guess that’s the popular thing to do for engagement…
Idk what to believe so I do what's best for my body. I used to run 30 minutes at 7 mph before my session and then do weight training for an hour to 45 minutes. That started getting harder as I lost around 12 kg (26lbs) within the first 2 months. I started noticing my strength, dropping quiet earlier during my weight training as I started increasing the weights. Now, after 3 months of training, what I adjusted according to my current body and weight is 20 minutes of running at 7mph and then full-blown weight training depending on whatever day it is, and I started noticing a huge difference, I don't gas out anymore during my entire session. I will adjust accordingly as I lose more weight. Idk what I am doing is, right or wrong, but it's been working for me so far.
Agree. I warm up with a brisk 8 minute inclined walk on the treadm...then do my weightlifting..and end with a 5-10 minute HIIT exercise to boost EPOC(after burning) effect. It works wonder for body composition!!
I always jog for 20 to 30 minutes before weight training. I've been doing this for years, and I never get tired or, like they say, lose energy. Running and jogging have helped me in weight lifting with physical conditioning and endurance, and I'm still growing muscle.
This is the first time i feel like the little fella is being unauthentic. If you watched the skinny old fella (I teased them both for equal gains) You would see that’s basically what Cavalier was trying to say. I don’t think these two should go at it. Maybe they can train with each other and agree to disagree?! Similar to CT Fletcher and Jeff… This whole world of shitting on every else is LAME AND HIGH SCHOOLISH..
@@sbtraining1769 even if that is true. I don’t care about that. His education is on sports health and training. He teaches form, nutrition, and recovery. Nothing wrong with that.
Again, he is right on. One added comment is that cardio improves circulation, therefore the muscles will benefit from receiving increased oxygen and nutrients as well as the ability to clear metabolic catabolites such as lactic acid.
I have rowed competitively. We would finish up on the Concept 2 rowers first since cardio was the main factor, stretch and then hit the weights. Granted, we were eating LARGE amounts of food to gain muscle mass and maintain our weight between 80-85kgs max. 7-8 hours of sleep, staying hydrated, zero alcohol and just being smart about our schedule.
Good breathing is very important for me in powerlifting. If i dont take a deep breath i sometimes fail a lift entirely. Cardio is great for this and helps me take shorter rests between training sets.
I’m seeing great results by doing both cardio and weights daily. I start out on the exercise bike. I used to finish on the bike but I recently discovered that I can go so much longer if I cycle first then I do my sets after. My sets are a specific number I want to hit in my lifting. I want to do a minimum number and it never ends at my minimum, I always go over but cycling after lifting I was going 5 minutes to 25 minutes. Cycling before lifting I go 20 minutes, moderate speed. At that point my heart is pumping, I’m warm and I head in to the lifts. Minimum of 30 reps in sets of 10 each. I’ll often go over my reps though but I have it down to a science now. Get the stuff I least enjoy out the way first then I can wind down with things that give me that big burn and muscle tension and pump feeling. I started daily exercise on September 2nd of 2024 with the goal being to lose 120lbs. Starting weight was 400.02lbs, I’m now 362.4lbs. My strength has improved, my stamina has improved, I’m lifting more than when I started, I’m eating well. I’ve missed 1 day of exercise during this time and that was a few days ago when I really messed up my shoulder to the point I could hardly move but the next day I was right back to it. Cardio, weight training and diet, get that weight down, your stamina up and feel good
Runner & lifter here....can confirm Jeff no1 is talking 💩 Running on the same day as leg day (squat / deadlift days for me) is the way I would say has been the most beneficial, should time allow. As with anything you need to look at your training as whole picture, eg I was running 50k ish a week for an event so I took a day of lifting out & went to 3 days.
I can't believe I was watching Jeff when I first started my fitness journey. But now that I'm watching Jeff, I think I know my stuff much better
I laughed out loud. Thank you for this one!😂
jokes aside thats exactly my journey lol😂
@@artuuube Yeah pretty much, the joke is derived from personal experience 😂
Which Jeff should I follow? 😅
No way that’s actually crazy accurate 😂
Real ones know which Jeff is which
Improving my cardio has improved every aspect of my life, from my sleep, to my mood, to my joint health and to my weight lifting
what do you do for cardio?
Same! I finally got over my weight loss plateau as well. For cardio I walk miles to work and miles home… at a brisk pace. I also walk, or skate to the grocery store or to run errands. Where I live isn’t very walkable, however I like how the cardio’s improved my life
Cardio really is a game changer!
Hello... what do you do for cardio? 😂
cardio changed my life - i walk uphill on an incline, and do the elliptical - sometimes I go for a run/jog on the treadmill if I'm feeling it
I'm absolutely on Jeff's side on this one. Jeff doesn't know what he's talking about.
Absolutely. Jeff is totally creating a blunder. While Jeff is actually factually and intellectually right.
Jeff is right and Jeff is wrong.
@@jaitejbaddam1660 Let them get over the beef by themselves. Lets not give a jeff.
I never really liked Jeff's content, I much prefer the other Jeff's content.
Good one 😂
I always do my cardio after weights. It's a good feeling. Takes way longer at the gym but I always feel better and I can feel how much healthier my heart is as a result. I make the weight room and my cardio a package deal, it's my routine.
What cardio exercise is good that is not losing your muscles?
@@djameszxc8018 do not do what this guy does, he is preventing the recovery growth process. best cardio for muscle is just walk
@@djameszxc8018low impact, like walking or bicycle.
@@djameszxc8018I’m not 1000% sure (you should do your own research) but I’m pretty sure swimming is good
Jeff vs Jeff drama is crazy
It could lead to the most polite disagreement in the history of the internet.
I Agree @@thoreaurug2142
Are they actually beefing, or just friendly sparring?
@@blob2092not really since he kinda agreed with him and also showed it can be done bud differently
More like @sslean-X
It’s just genius how he talks out of breath to match what he is doing on video. Really smart and clever realism from a film student background I can appreciate this.
I don't think that's intentional.
This shouldn't even be a concern for anyone not trying to compete. Get gains in both categories to enhance yourself the most possible and your body will thank you.
I can't even begin to explain how many of my friends refuse to ever do any cardio classes cause they truly believe that the only thing in life that matters is purely progressive overload and hypertrophy in the gym
Exactly. Don’t wanna be the dude who benches 250 and runs a 15 minute mile
Exactly plus the more bulk gain, the greater the strain on the heart... Cardio is a must to maintain health with mass.
@@peterman8848peole need to learn to stop lifting to be strong and start lifting to be strong for life, joint training, cardio, swimming, and there physic will be a lot better than u think, mobility to a lot of tha
@@peterman8848 yes they are correct, big muscles are the only thing that matters in life, because without them life is hard and terrible and lonely.
This channel is amazing. I started small, 20 minute weights then Leslie sansone 1 mile walk after. Been doing it for a month and feeling myself getting stronger and breathing better. Feeling optimistic
actually doing cardio regulalry makes me feel alot stronger and in a better general health status
If you don't do cardio, you will probably loss your breath in a rep or two. Cardio helps cycling the blood too which may help you recover faster.
Natural bodybuilder for 20 years...Best shape I was ever in I did sprints at 5 in the morning....Monday thru Friday....20 minute session...sprint 10 seconds..decelerate then walk back to starting spot...1:50....total 2 minute cycle...repeat 10 times... Worked out Monday/Thursday full body cycle workout...40 minutes total. Wednesday/Friday/Sunday ran 3 miles low intensity. End result was single digit bodyfat at 210 pounds...just as strong in the 3 major lifts and much stronger in bodyweight exercises.
@@Sharon-rr1liMy cardio consists of walking a minimum of 10,000 steps a day, that's it.
It shaves off water weight too and makes your muscles look more defined.
Yeah, I get my best workouts after a crazy run lol.
I'm amazed at how high-quality and straightforward your content is!
When I started doing cardio my strength went up because I was no longer limited by my cardio
So many people don't realise this.
True, especially on leg exercises in medium to high rep ranges.
Yup
Even on 1rep max strength increased
If your lifting was limited by your cardio, you got a whole different set of issues.
The last part of this video is everything. That's why I like Jeff's channel. He'll lay the detailed facts out.... then wrap it up with some tips but finishes with the real point.... lift, sleep, eat. I adjust carbs according to my intensity level.
Cardio is good for your heart and fitness, who cares if it lowers your gains by 1%. Also it burns calories.
The heart is the most important muscle. It deserves its own dedicated workout.
He’s just saying do it after lifting. Being drenched in sweat from cardio then going to lifting is really deflating. Doing a nice strength lift then doing cardio feels complete.
@@Lost_In_LA I train my heart to failure every workout because of this
@@johnflaherty810 Tbh I think it depends on your prioirities - just do the one you care about more first since you will have the most energy at the beginning. I've done both and I always prefer cardio first when I'm more focused on cardio training, and lifting first when I'm more focused on strength training.
@@AndyE7 😭😭 dead
I was a runner for five years, which means I used to run 10+ km daily. I have lost lots of muscle during that time. Now I have started gym. Still I do 5-10 min cardio and 1 to 1.5 hrs strength, and now my body has started coming in shape. I must say if you do only cardiovascular exercise, you will definitely lose so much muscle.
See, this makes perfect sense.Because I do weight training.And then I go do cardio run a mile and I don't think i'm losing any muscle mass think you for putting the truth on you TH-cam channel God bless
Jeff C. never said that doing cardio will catabolize muscle. It's called a strawman and Nippard isn't fully quoting Jeff C. Go find Jeff C.s full discussion on the topic.
Yeah that's the problem with chosit 5 sec clips, Jeff Nipples tryna start drama. He should at least have linked the full video so we can see what Jeff Cavalier actually said in context. @@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.
"This makes perfect sense because _I don't think_ I'm losing muscle" what a point 😂
@@Mew__Self experimentation is valid. If he's still making good gains, even with running a mile after each session, then I don't see the problem with him sharing his experience here. People really just look for anything they can to talk badly about other people.
@@IridescentW Who said people can't share their experiences? Weird remark from you.
I needed this 4 months ago!!! I have a half marathon in November and it's been trial and error figuring out how to balance powerlifting and running
Cardio is better for the heart. Helps with stamina, and overall, fun cause gotta go fast. Best athletes in the world combine it all. And they look great too!
What do you do for cardio?
@@masonrawls6436 Either run (3 or 5km) with the aim of beating previous time. Bike, row or find a nice big hill to speed march up like you're on war maneuvers.
fat boy prefer gain a physic but a man understand that her heart is also a muscle to develop like a biceps or any other muscle
Sophomore year of college I used to run 6 miles and then hit weights immediately after and I still found my strength and physique to improve a lot
Fiding jeff, dr mike and sean is the best thing happened to me for going to the gym the fact that in my country not many people know much i can say watching them and listening to them im smarter than 95% of the coaches in weightlifiting truly incredible especially jeff has been the best out of them three
Where do you live ??
@@bahandplays8373 in the pineapple, under the sea
@@bahandplays8373Probably Israel, cos he's koshaa
Add in Mike Van Wyck to your rotation. He’s helped me with form so much with his queues.
Who's Sean?
I find having good cardio made lifting much easier, especially heavier weights. You can also recover faster and potentially take less rest because your heart rate will fall back to normal faster.
Sleeping enough is damn hard
Regular cardio actually improves sleep quality!
@@randomoneforstuff3696 sometimes it's not about quality... it's about time itself. I can't go to bed earlier than 11pm. And need to wake up 5am.
@@GaedeRafaelliterally me
@@GaedeRafaelsame
@@GaedeRafael your hormones take a huge hit overtime with less sleep. probably should check your bloodwork. idk how old you are but trt has been a miracle for me as my hormones stay normal even if i sleep 4 hours every single day. im god now.
This week I didn't think things through and did a heavy leg workout immediately before volleyball practice and that was the biggest mistake. My left leg was so overworked, it wouldn't stop trembling and pain kept shooting up my entire leg with every step. That bit of advice to have at least one or two days between is huge.
"Probably not." 😂😂😂😂. Love this guy!
Not so much haha
He wasn't right about the stretch portion of the repetition... and he doesn't look like he ever does cardio, so not sure about the veracity of his statement.
@@nickcheeawai9661 ur perception of how much he "looks like" he does cardio doesn't matter, be quiet buddy!
@@nickcheeawai9661I mean, he frequently plays basketball as a hobby. That seems like cardio to me
I love Jeff. Thank you for bringing trustworthy information to the fitness community!
I fricking love Jeff, before finding him I used to get up at 8 and go to school then come back and play video games. Now he has me on his PPL program and I have been getting up at 5, going to sleep at 9, lifting consistently, eating amazing and even learning to play chess. Thank you Jeff
❤❤❤🎉
geschichten ausm paulanergarten
@@RealTaIkWas ist Paulanergarten? Ich bin Amerikanische und lerne Deutsch.
@@loganbooker1084 Ask the "germanbrit" afterall he proudly claims to be german
@@loganbooker1084 Its a german meme from a beer ad from Paulaner. People drink in a beer garden and make up stories, so whenever people dont believe your story its a story from the paulaner garten
My gym bro keeps scolding me for mixing a bit of cardio into my workouts... finally I have someone backing me up that it's completely FINE!
1 hour of lifting and 1 hour of easy/moderate cycling so far for the past 3 months. Lost 40lbs and kept on increasing my lifting weights every week and muscle definition was starting to show. It can be done people, just need to eat lots of protein 200g a day is what my goal was with 1,800 calories.
great to know !! I am thinking of doing it ..
What did you eat to hit 200g protein @ 1800 calories?
Probably a sh*t ton of supplements or powder for the protein. Not good for ur kidneys
Is that per week?
This explanation has been needed for a long time. Tons of thanks. Finally questions are answered
Someone else said it, but I agree with it: Jeff went from Nippard to NippHard with this new haircut
😂
Ayoooo
Honestly, just be the best, healthiest version of yourself, you got this.
A little cardio can actually benefit your gains by enhancing your endurance, allowing you to lift heavier, longer. Just don’t over-do it 💪🏻
Jeff wasn’t even that wrong, conditioning work with your strength work could be killing your gains, and Jeff even proved Jeff’s point by saying it again in his video.
Finally added cardio back in a month ago and feeling better for it.
I always run a mile as fast as I can before full body strength training every gym visit. This is making me reconsider. It gives me incredible endurance.
You can combine cardio and weight training as long as you're having fun.
Jeff is totally right on this one.... I just can't beleve what Jeff is saying!!! You've got to get it together man!
Learned this 20 years ago. Glad to see it still hasn’t changed 👌🏼
even if it did hurt my gains a little i mean oh well. i have 0 desire to lift competitively. i just wanna be healthy and confident in my own body. currently on week 4 of lifting weights and i’m absolutely loving it. i’ve never been so motivated before.
Both Jeff’s are the greatest on TH-cam. They just serve slightly different audiences and training goals.
Jeff Cavalier keeping you small as hell
I've been doing cardio with weights since I started in basically the same way Jeff says and have found I'm stronger, recover quicker, take far lest rest among other things than my friends who don't do cardio.
With this new knowledge, I will still feel better to just separate by lifting day and cardio days.
Make me feel more energize and I can do other life stuffs that don't involve exercise.
I usually do more cardio in the summers, running to then do some swimming in a lake after the runs and cut down to 2-3 days a week weightlifting, even did a marathon then when winter comes I cut down on the cardio to just some stairmaster, inclined treadmill walks and up the weightlifting to 4-6 times a week depending on work. I never feel bored of the gym or cardio and I still keep my body fit no matter what time of year
"Probably not" then proceeds to agree with AthleanX
Thank you ! 🙏 - you have settled this debate for me - really helpful
The key is to monitor and adjust as needed
Cardio can greatly improve your weightlifting sessions. Ever since I started cycling, I am no longer out of breath after a hard set. In fact, I rarely hit HR Zone 3 after an all out set of squats. I can push my muscle to maximum easier since my cardiovascular fitness is no longer a limiting factor. Do cardio!
I'm with them on this one. Also, I heard Thomas DeLauer say the same thing 8 years ago, and I put it in my workout routine. went from a 400lb fat mess to a 170 clean slate, then to a comfortable high muscle 220.
If you want all round fitness you need both
I loved watching Jeff. I don't believe him on most of his stuff, whether something is optimal or not. But he still taught me how to move during certain lifts and really helps understand the mind muscle connection and just learning the muscular structure with the markers.
Or just ask a rugby/american football player for their workout routines. These guys are absolutely massive while having the stamina to run around explosively for a long time
Good advice
steroids
It depends on how you define conditioning work. Training for a marathon will kill every ounce of gains. Light to moderate cardio is fine. Red shorts Jeff summed it up perfectly.
The Professor has built quite some size.
Great comment! Is nobody gonna mention Jeff’s ball handling skills??
Literally looking for a basketball comment
Another great study playlist, keep it up as long as you got motivation to keep making these
I like how you say "probably not" and then completely agree with him. From my understanding what he's saying is "separate your cardio from your lifting" not "don't do cardio at all or you'll lose your gains."
Lol exactly!
I was about to write something like that, and weird majority here don't saw it. Dude should've used "Depends on the context" instead of "Probably not".
I have progressed to an almost ‘semi-pro’ level with my cardio with biking. My zone 2 is around 300 watts average. I do that constantly throughout the week and still lift six days per week and make great strength and muscle gains.
So yes guys, that thing that we've been doing to get the better version of our bodys since the origin of the humanity (running) is good for u
Who could say😅😅
High intensity plyometrics has been shown to be more beneficial for strength & power development than weightlifting so programme this into leg day!!! I know it is not necessarily c.v. but can be e.g. single leg bounds into tuck jumps tumbles followed by 1-6 minutes skipping for passive recovery or jog/walk!
my go to jumprope & sprints
Nice. 30-60s. 30 second sprint, 60 second jog.
@@justanothergrunt9053 lol how is you in my head that’s def what i do lol some time i do used the speed chute & lunges back
@@demarezwilkerson56 Army bro! Didn’t know about it until then. It helps like crazy with conditioning.
I do 60 sec jump rope very intense and 30 sec rest for 30-40 rounds for cardio 😁
i gotta say i really appreciate jeff having the full transcript of what he said in his description!
Could you please make a full video on this topic🙏
Here from TikTok! Excited for this journey!
As a runner, it's really difficult to organize the leg day in a week where i have to run 3x
I know exactly what you mean. Hard to be fresh for running
Yes, it's challenging. I'd be interested in learning how to improve the schedule of strength training and running sessions
How do you manage to do that?
@@janedrowned to be honest, sadly i end up not prioritizing strength in my leg days
Do legs the first day after a rest day, and replace a run with a bike ride.
My warm up is this: 1) 10 minutes on the crosstrainer/elliptical, 2) push and pull a sled (around 10 pulls and 10 pushes), 3) short shoulder warm up exercise I saw of squat university 4) if it's leg day then I will also do the 20x3 clamshell, leg raises one at a time while lying down and side leg lifts with the same reps. I have a bad back so I have to feel warmed up enough to hit the weights.
"As long as you do these three things."
The first point being exactly what Jeff Cavaliere said in the video you clipped.
This was actually in response to athleanx taking a jab at Jeff Nippard in one of his latest videos. What athleanx did was distasteful, this was still okay.
Yeah but how do we get Jeff v Jeff drama without a lack of context?
@@bruvhellnahbut his was just weak in comparison, to be fair 😂
@@bruvhellnah Timestamp? I ain't watching All that
@@bruvhellnahwhat video is that?
Thank you so much for posting this!
So much misinformation on the Web... people talking without really knowing anything...
I run 2 hours a day every day, except for Sunday, which I run fir 3 to 4 hours...
I go to the gym 3 times a week, lift very heavy, low reps, compound exercise. Eat on a slight surplus, 1 gram if protein per pound and I make great gains.
Sure, if I didn't run, maybe they would be even better but still, I run heaps and get stronger and bigger every week...
I can't tell if he's series or not wit these out of context AthleanX clips. Like you guys basically agree on the same things in regards to cardio.
I know right :/
Exactly!
Exactly. Everyone likes to clip a statement from cavalier and try to “debunk” it. But i lowkey think nippard was just having fun with that first clip😂
It's because faking a rivalry gets more views and comments.
@@tofuwitzke facts
Doing cardio is sooo underrated. When I started doing cardio and even HIIT workouts. I notice with hyperthropht workouts I recover faster and get better quality sets. Because of my cardiovascular improvement
I've implemented moderate to high intensity cardio, 30min Fridays; once a week. I've noticed I've gotten a lot faster, my wind is a lot better, and I feel even better. I've still been making gains in every department. :) Seems like the perfect balance.
I didn’t know Jeff had handles like that
He plays basketball :)
Jeff lowkey helping me out a bunch recently
Jeff C, the best without doubt
*Ronnie Coleman voice* everybody wanna be an expert
But nobody wanna do that heavy ass research
The only people who worry about losing muscle doing cardio are the drugged up competitive bodybuilders. NOBODY should worry about this.
drugged up competitive bodybuilders know that cardio doesn't make you lose muscle. So there goes your theory.
@@JT-ow6qj so if the *only* people who *could* be affected know it *won't* affect them,
the theory is moot?
meaning that the _other_ people who _shouldn't_ worry, and _can't_ be affected...are affected?
What exactly is your counter, here?
A lot of runners and HEAVY cardio people worry about it more than mass monsters. People doing 2-3 hours of cardio almost every day see significant loss of muscle.
@@HeadCannonPrimeTell that to rugby players , gymnasts , football players, hockey players, etc... people just train like shit, don't have a good diet and think the cardio is the problem.
@@bradleydavisson Pro bodybuilders do cardio too making the theory moot. Have a good one.
The magic sauce is right at the end -
lifting consistently, sleeping well, getting the right nutrition. Lifting consistently is easy, a pleasure even. The other two take a lot of self-discipline (more than I can usually muster 😅)
For a guy who prides himself on research you completely took that out of context and then proceeded to say what Jeff said.
He needs views, every "fitness" internet coach trash him without basis to gain relevance, cavaliere never gets into this mentally ill diss
Lol glad there are some comments along with yours pointing this out. And yes, definitely having Jeff C. will increase engagement and views.
Finally some great information on the topic, thank you!
Jeff went to the brotha barber shop and got a clean cut geeeeesh 🔥🔥🔥
lols
I’m with you Jeff!!
The fact I watched athlean x when I was a kid and believed him so I literally cut out all forms of running when I was a great cross country athlete just because I was scared of not being able to put on muscle. Now I do both. I do at least 8km 6 days a week with 20km on the weekend with weight training afterwards and I’ve never been bigger
Jeff knows about research and bodybuilding both while Jeff only know about bodybuilding, that’s why I’m with Jeff on this.
I’ll stick to prioritizing my heart over my ego
As someone that is a long distance runner (in high school, 19:30 5k, 46:55 10K, and 1 half-marathon at 1:48:38), I don’t separate my leg days from running days because I run 5-6 days per week. I don’t run as much on leg days but I also don’t care if it hurts my gains, as my goals are 190 bench press and 225 squat, and I got a long time to do that and not a long time to set a school record for 5k.
I thought you were above taking 4 seconds clips out of context, and basically agreeing with the original content. I guess that’s the popular thing to do for engagement…
Exactly
Idk what to believe so I do what's best for my body.
I used to run 30 minutes at 7 mph before my session and then do weight training for an hour to 45 minutes. That started getting harder as I lost around 12 kg (26lbs) within the first 2 months.
I started noticing my strength, dropping quiet earlier during my weight training as I started increasing the weights.
Now, after 3 months of training, what I adjusted according to my current body and weight is
20 minutes of running at 7mph and then full-blown weight training depending on whatever day it is, and I started noticing a huge difference, I don't gas out anymore during my entire session. I will adjust accordingly as I lose more weight.
Idk what I am doing is, right or wrong, but it's been working for me so far.
Good Jeff vs Bad Jeff
Agree. I warm up with a brisk 8 minute inclined walk on the treadm...then do my weightlifting..and end with a 5-10 minute HIIT exercise to boost EPOC(after burning) effect. It works wonder for body composition!!
You are much more likeable then the other Jeff.
Clear , concise , accurate
Keep it up 👑
Shocking how so few people consider swimming a viable cardio option
it's by far the best one
Last time I went swimming after weight lifting, I started cramping up in my lats and triceps 😂. Don't get that problem with the elliptical.
@@MaxIronsThird I usually do full body workouts.
@@PlayerSkillFTW salts are good that is all
You ended up saying the same as the other Jeff though lol.
no he didn't. cavaliere said conditioning/cardio work with lifting will kill gains. nippard said it doesn't with proof. there you have it
@@patootie3529you completely fell for the short clip taken out of context
I always jog for 20 to 30 minutes before weight training. I've been doing this for years, and I never get tired or, like they say, lose energy. Running and jogging have helped me in weight lifting with physical conditioning and endurance, and I'm still growing muscle.
This is the first time i feel like the little fella is being unauthentic.
If you watched the skinny old fella
(I teased them both for equal gains)
You would see that’s basically what Cavalier was trying to say.
I don’t think these two should go at it. Maybe they can train with each other and agree to disagree?!
Similar to CT Fletcher and Jeff…
This whole world of shitting on every else is LAME AND HIGH SCHOOLISH..
Remember when Jeff(athlean x) used fake weights and lied about it?
@@sbtraining1769 even if that is true. I don’t care about that. His education is on sports health and training.
He teaches form, nutrition, and recovery. Nothing wrong with that.
@@ZachOlson-lq4lwhe did but it really didn’t matter . Every bit of advice he gave in that video was solid
We all should aim for balance.
Focusing on strength without endurance is bad, so as the opposite
Again, he is right on. One added comment is that cardio improves circulation, therefore the muscles will benefit from receiving increased oxygen and nutrients as well as the ability to clear metabolic catabolites such as lactic acid.
I'm a collegiate rower, and from experience you can do a LOT of cardio before it starts noticeably impacting strength. Excluding being generally tired
So true. I started doing my cardio after my lifting session and i feel great. I just run a mile at about 6.5 nothing serious.
I have rowed competitively. We would finish up on the Concept 2 rowers first since cardio was the main factor, stretch and then hit the weights. Granted, we were eating LARGE amounts of food to gain muscle mass and maintain our weight between 80-85kgs max. 7-8 hours of sleep, staying hydrated, zero alcohol and just being smart about our schedule.
Good breathing is very important for me in powerlifting. If i dont take a deep breath i sometimes fail a lift entirely. Cardio is great for this and helps me take shorter rests between training sets.
I’m seeing great results by doing both cardio and weights daily. I start out on the exercise bike. I used to finish on the bike but I recently discovered that I can go so much longer if I cycle first then I do my sets after. My sets are a specific number I want to hit in my lifting. I want to do a minimum number and it never ends at my minimum, I always go over but cycling after lifting I was going 5 minutes to 25 minutes. Cycling before lifting I go 20 minutes, moderate speed. At that point my heart is pumping, I’m warm and I head in to the lifts. Minimum of 30 reps in sets of 10 each. I’ll often go over my reps though but I have it down to a science now. Get the stuff I least enjoy out the way first then I can wind down with things that give me that big burn and muscle tension and pump feeling. I started daily exercise on September 2nd of 2024 with the goal being to lose 120lbs. Starting weight was 400.02lbs, I’m now 362.4lbs. My strength has improved, my stamina has improved, I’m lifting more than when I started, I’m eating well. I’ve missed 1 day of exercise during this time and that was a few days ago when I really messed up my shoulder to the point I could hardly move but the next day I was right back to it. Cardio, weight training and diet, get that weight down, your stamina up and feel good
Runner & lifter here....can confirm Jeff no1 is talking 💩
Running on the same day as leg day (squat / deadlift days for me) is the way I would say has been the most beneficial, should time allow.
As with anything you need to look at your training as whole picture, eg I was running 50k ish a week for an event so I took a day of lifting out & went to 3 days.
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