Nice review and comparison to the Citizen model. One point of clarification about your comments at 20:46 - just like the Citizen Eco-Drive, the V147 solar movement in the Seiko is powered by any light source, not just the sun. The details on charging times for different light sources are detailed in the manual for the Seiko.
Yes, it's overpriced, but sapphire crystal and true diver certification have to be taken into account as well. It looks way better than the Citizen but that's of course subjective.
@@Klunker1 Exactly what do you mean with “not true”? Just because you bought it at a lower price, doesn’t mean the initial msrp was the price you paid. At the price they wanted when they released this watch (when I made the video) the price was, in my opinion, too high. Now, if you bought it for $360 that’s another story and I congratulate you on a great deal 😊
@@backintimewatches sorry for the confusion. I’m going by current prices that range from $360 to $405. I agree with Francisco that it can’t compare to the Citizen in the video as they’re different size and style. I agree the bracelet is crap but I don’t wear bracelets anyway and have at least a half dozen straps already that look great on the watch. It’s really hard to find a diver in this size , very comfortable and great looking. If Citizen made something in this size I would be very interested.
It’s a great value at under $400. USD in 05/2022. I have plenty of automatic watches. I also have some Citizen solar quarts watches and they are my daily work watches. They keep great time without having to change a battery every few years and they are extremely reliable. I’m in hvac and they are not babied. I just bought this one and can’t wait to get it on my wrist!
@ Nice! So, I posted that comment 5/22. Here it is 11/24 and I’m still wearing the same watch as my daily work watch. I still enjoy wearing it. Still looks great. Keeps great time. (I only reset it spring/fall daylight saving time). Certainly has proven to be an outstanding value!
The price is very close to what I paid for my Casio Oceanus which is a titanium watch with a fully milled titanium bracelet, Sapphire crystal running a Tough Solar movement with Multiband 6, and World Time for 29 cities. I also own a few Eco Drives and they all have really decent specs for around 300 USD. Seiko seems to be ruffling a few feathers lately 😀
The casio oceanus is a spectacular watch. I can't remember where I read this, but the company that seiko contracts out to do their GS finishings is the same company that Casio contracts to for their casework on the Oceanus and MRG line of watches.
@@pibblesnbits I've actually owned three Oceanus pieces and three Grand Seiko pieces and can confirm the Oceanus fit and finish is 95% as good as GS. Where Casio struggles is with the dial and hand finishing, which doesn't quite match Grand Seiko.
It might be a bit overpriced but design wise, you get pretty much perfect proportions... to me, that tips the scale as I won't long for another quartz in the 38mm category for a good while (well, at least for a year :))
Bought (the SNE575P1) for just 440 € (20% discount in an official shop) I find it a very equilibrated and nice looking watch, although for the MRSP of 550€ I wouldn't have bought it
I’m a huge Seiko fan but even I have to admit that Seiko doesn’t offer great value in the sub-£500 range anymore. Quartz or automatic. Citizen and Orient, IMHO, offer better value in that price range for quartz and mechanical respectively. Above £1k Seiko still offers great value, and GS offers unbelievable value.
Thanks for watching 🙏 In my eyes, that’s a true fan. Being able to praise the company they love when praise is deserved, and call them out when needed 👍
The watch is definitely not too expensive. I have a Seiko SPB143 with the 6R35 caliber and it is so inaccurate that it is no longer fun. It cost well over 1000 euros and is garbage. It looks very good, but that's about it. Repair attempt ended in disaster: First it went +10s/day, then again the old story.
I have the SNE573, solar perfection for sure. Been waiting a loooooong time for a mid-sized Seiko. It's about time. Great video, great review. And, yes, I agree with some of the comments that it is a bit overpriced. I got lucky and snapped up a used one for $325.00 Don't regret it a bit.
If it's any help, I bought the Longines VHP Conquest HAQ and couldn't be happier. For the money, it's good value when compared to a new 9F GS. I recommend it.
@@vonkruel if you do then check for aligned second hands and look at both sizes - they are fairly close - also look at the GMT HAQ option in the range. The white dial seems most legible in all lighting and the least likely to date. Note the perpetual calendar and other interesting features. The whole case is very attractive and robust and the case-back is a stunner! It's really a scientific instrument designed to tell THE exact time.
@@citizent6999 Actually I was thinking a GMT HAQ would check two boxes for my modest collection here. My wrist size is 20cm so I take the larger size when there are options. The Conquest VHP does look like a nice value proposition for sure. +/- 5 sec in a year is about twice as impressive as +/- 10, and the latter is no mean feat. Yes, I noticed the perpetual calendar and that's also an attractive feature to me. Legibility is important to me also (eyes aren't what they used to be), and I've been gravitating toward white dials. I recently received the Phoibos PY032E (white dial DLC dive watch) and I love the high contrast between hands & dial. There's not a ton of selection for HAQ, but 1 attractive watch that really shows what quartz can do -- that'll do it for me. Thanks again for pointing me toward Longines (move over, Grand Seiko).
@@citizent6999 Looking into this a bit more, I came upon the issue of changing out the battery (which is normally simple on a quartz). Do you plan on changing the battery yourself or sending it to Longines? It seems like you _can_ do it if the battery wasn't totally dead, but if it completely died you'd have to reprogram the watch (do instructions exist for that?). I also saw what you meant about the alignment of the seconds hand being something to look for.
That is a steal. May I know where are you from? The cheapest in Malaysia is 295usd, it is a banger if I can find a more affordable alternative at your country
I just got mine delivered today 😌 it looks great and feels good on the wrist 🤙🏽 thinking of replacing the original hollow bracelet with the one from uncle Seiko
Hi, is uncle seiko offer a bracelet for this particular watch? Or do you buy uncle seiko bracelet for other watch model but it is suited to this watch? Glad if you can share, I would like to change the bracelet when I received mine ariund end of this year
Really, are solid end links and milled clasps better? Are they better because the watch world says they are, or do they perform the same? For me those things wouldn’t bother me so long as the watch is comfortable and doesn’t rattle, other than that only I’ll know these things, no one who sees my watch would know, so it’s not a deal breaker for me. Even sapphire is kind of gimmicky to me, but maybe that’s because I’ve never had a problem with mineral crystals. I just wanted to point out that these small details are, well, small, and probably more preference than anything. I would say build quality of this watch is excellent as is. My main concern would be how well the solar cell and battery hold up. I had a Seiko solar dive watch about 15 years ago and it didn’t last long. I just bought this model so I’m really hoping it’ll last longer this go around. The specs and looks are spot on, and the small details i mentioned really aren’t a problem to me, but then again that’s just me.
Something has to be said about pricing and styling. Not sure if I'm putting into the correct words but the Seiko looks like its price would suggest. Comparing the two to me the Seiko is a better looking what aesthetically by a long shot.
Yes, I agree, it certainly is. But, better looks does not cost more... Both companys probably have design teams. Both desgin teams spent money designen their respective watch. Now, what me and you find more appealing is quite subjective and should not matter when pricing something. Thanks for watching :)
Great video, man. Thanks. These look great. Really great. But like other commenters here, I just can't countenance the price. £360-400 and I'd give it a long hard think. £500 is just too keen.
Thanks for the great review! I agree it looks like a homage to a vintage Rolex/Tudor which I don’t even mind since it’s Seiko. (To be honest I think they knew it would be part of the appeal) It’s £500 in the UK. I absolutely would love this as an everyday watch but I think I would feel angry that I paid that price after purchasing it. £30 more gets you a seiko ‘King Samurai’ with an automatic movement with hand-winding and hacking, ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal.
citizen really needs to come out with a mid sized eco drive diver. they can even just make their bn0151 model sub 40mm and that's it. (i know there's a ladies version out there but it's just too small). btw the seiko looks awesome. but at that price point there is a ton of better options
Love your reviews! (Also that Citizen music was pretty damn rocking!). Can’t wait for an SKX review. As for price / quality I feel that most value is within current Seiko Presage line (I’m a diver guy, however JDM Presage is such a step up!). Just a tip on how to enjoy Seiko more. Try JDM Presage!
I have newer brother of this watch - SNE593P1. I was about to get new Seiko GMT SSK003K1, but for about the similar price apart of Solar, it's Sapphire glass, screw down crown, prospex series logo, and Diver's 200m WR. Solar does not bother me, and thickness 10.7 is fantastic.
The only thing I don't like about old skool Quartz is having the battery change. If you do it yourself you always end up making scratches on your watch for the sake of putting in a 2 dollar battery. And paying a steep fee for someone letting it do is also just a waste of money. Problem with automatics, is I run always late in the morning when preparing for work. I need something to grab that is still ticking, so yeah solar is my prefered work horse movement. As for Seiko, I love them. But they are going serious up market. The previous Seiko 5 was around 150 USD, the new ones north of 300 USD, and you don't even get a saphire glass or a sollid link bracelet on your new 5 for the extra charge. You can buy Lorus instead, they are good value for money... But there is just something I don't like about that name. It like that Cheapo faux fashion store selling miss spelled brand names. Guess becomes Cuess, Armani Armano and Louis Vuitton Lewis Vyton. If you tell about your Lorus, people always think it's a rip off on Lotus you got in that store. So yeah, Casio and Citizen Solar Quartz on my next year wish list, then maybe an automatic Lorus for that one vintage design they offer at that great price... And one previous gen Seiko 5 that is still around when I get some money to spare.
Almost like that 😂 But seriously, I wanted a sleeve made of things I like and think look cool, but not necessarily the same motif all the way. 😊 Thanks for watching man 🙏
I just bought a Seiko Prospex SNE586P1. Surprise surprise in the owners manual it says this watch rating (200m) is NOT recommended for diving! Good grief, "desk diver" indeed! I'm rescue diver certified and the whole reason for buying this watch was to dive with it. So my question, does anyone actually dive to 30 / 40m with these watches? Your feedback / experiences are most appreciated.
I really like the look of the Seiko. I've been debating between the Seiko and the Scurfa Diver one. The Seiko just seem a bit overpriced when comparing the two. Still like it though.
I wouldn't compare a mineral glass, 4 month battery life, world time watch with a sapphire glass divers watch with a 10 month battery life. I'm sure it has comparisons, but not this citizen. And also it MAY Appear that both are water resistent to 200 meters, but if it doesn't say 'Divers" it's not tested and approved to go down to 200 meters.
Just my own opinion but I think you might be better to stick with watches over 42mm. My wrist is 180 and I have a 39mm diver that I always find myself looking at and thinking it’s a couple mm too small, even though beautiful. My 42mm watches I don’t think that of. My 44mm watches I think look a bit too big but still wearable. With the size of your wrist and all the tatts I think you need more wrist presence. Having said that it is a nice looking watch and if you’re happy with it then awesome 👍🏼👍🏼
Nah, I actually like smaller watches now. Not small small, but around 40mm. And it actually all depends on the lug to lug ratio and how the bracelet tapers. A younger version of me would agree with you but I guess we change throughout the years 😊 Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 👍
@@backintimewatches I’m getting used to my 39mm. There are no rules. In years gone by watches were much smaller, possibly in the years ahead they will go back to smaller sizes. It’s a nice looking watch.
Another fantastic entertaining review. I’m down to one Seiko as well for all the reasons you mentioned. I sold my Captain Willard because the 6R35 was losing 90 sec per day. I still have my skx009. I love quartz and especially solar but this video will keep me from buying this diver. Thank you!
I want the bracelet but the black bezel version only comes on the strap. How blue is the bezel on this one, or does it appear more grey or light black in real life?
I don't feel your Seiko & Citizen comparision is "apples to apples." The Citizen specs are 42mm case x 13.3mm thick, is a field watch style, with GMT and international time around the bezel. The Seiko is a "prospex" diver that is 38.5mm case x 10.6mm thick, with a traditional bezel and is dive rated. The Citizen is actually a GMT field watch and the Seiko a smaller, mid-size dive watch. I would not be looking at both of these for the same reason because of the size and style of each. You will typically pay more for a Seiko Prospex watch than similar Citizen. BTW: I own both Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko Solar watches. I do, however, agree on your price issue. You can get this Seiko, and in other color variations, on Amazon or other sources for under $400.
Great looking watch. I collect solar watches. This along with the new Cartier Tank will be joining my collection this year. I’d jump on a Grand Seiko if they put a solar movement in a watch.
I don’t understand the whole mechanical thing. Maybe I’m not enough of a enthusiast. But if I can put a watch in a draw for a week I want it to still tell the right time and work.
At the grey market price (€350 or so) I think it offers quite good value. Still not Orient/Citizen level probably, but close enough. The looks is perfect though!
Du pratade om scratch resistant. Hur känner du inför repor o eventuellt dings på din Rolex Gmt master2?? Har själv en datejust o känns förjävligt med repor o dylikt speciellt med tanke på att datejusten är polerad överallt..
Ska jag vara helt ärligt så är det ju inget man gärna vill ha på din klocka oavsett prisklass 😊 Och särskilt inte dings. Repor är oundvikliga och det kan jag leva med utan problem, men dings är lite värre…
Wrist size is a strange thing; wrist diameter goes a long way compared to circumference .I have a 17cm wrist and my sinn 556i + Casio duro fit great. I’m a 190cm athlete. Pieces with a slim design and good lug to lug fit easily. My 15.5mm high garmin on the other hand…
I agree! I recently purchased the green one which I returned. I didn't care for the solar cross on the dial and the QC was lacking. I too have now left Seiko, underwhelmed by them. No value left, oh well plenty of other killer brands out there.
I like the Seiko and solar is the set it and forget it way to go , but talking value Citizens can’t be beaten . My opinion is they don’t promote some watches enough , their Eco Drive system is faultless and will last 20 years plus .
Thanks for watching and commenting 😊 But should I do that? The info is always in the video and if I wrote it, then you wouldn’t have to watch the whole video 😊
I love seiko. But compare this to a yema Pearl diver and the value is just not their. It’s a good looking watch though and you get the name but I’d probably get a Pearl diver.
Hard disagree on the price. For a solar diver with saphire, this is worth every penny because at that point its an investment watch that will take anything you throw at it. The Seikos that arent worth the box they come in? Any of the Lux line with the 6r series. Garbage unreliable movement. Yes, everyone knows a guy who knows a guys whos second cousin has one and hasnt had any issues with his, but the overall complaints of the irregularities of that movement are plentiful. Seiko solar is fine, and old kinetic is fine, anything GS is fine. Don't bother with Seikos lower to mid tier auto's. Also, if we're talking cost and think ~$500 is expensive, go take a look at Breitlings superquartz offerings and then get back to me.
@@backintimewatches I guess I'm a little lost as to the value metric used. It's an entirely in-house watch, and one that should last a lifetime. The only brand that can come close to offering that level of spec and price is Citizen due to economics of scale. And let's be honest, anyone that pays msrp on a watch does it on purpose. Most Seiko AD'S offer 20% across the board anyway, even in 2023. Both my Breitlings were bought grey market, knowing full well they were ETA based and an in-house warranty wasn't needed. Otherwise great review. If this was powered by the 4r movement and cost over $400, or a 6r and cost over $700 than I'd agree with you all the way to the bank. The best value Seiko has is anything not auto, or GS if the pockets are deep enough.
So I bought the sne569 from a german dealer online. It arrived today. Stunning design, but for the first time I'm really disappointed in the finishing of a Seiko. The sides of the case are brushed unevenly in my example and the finishing of the top/upper edges of the bezel is shockingly bad. It's full of pitting. There were metal particles, dust from the bezel, in the box upon opening it. I was considering sending it back but I suspect they're all like that. Don't know what's going on but someone was sleeping in the factory. The bracelet looks like the mini turtles' and turtles' bracelets but it's a lot lighter. It's seiko 5 quality. I have mixed feelings. I fully agree on sight the watch is amazing, but handling it it's kind of a major disappointment. The finishing of skxes, turtles,... is a lot better. I will keep it but it's the last time I'm buying a Seiko (online) 😬
buy vintage. Look into the 7c43 professional or the 7548 watches. Built really well! Sorry about your experience. Personally, I'd return the watch and see if you can find on in person so that you can inspect it first.
Haha the clasp and the end links at that price xd. Always amazed of the balls of steel on seiko! 600 euro is like 750 dollars tho not a little over 600.
Ok so it’s a little overpriced but a maintenance free, solar quartz diver makes a lot of sense Obviously Citizen have the market sewn up in this segment and make some fine divers However - while they’re excellent they do lack character Seikos have warmth and charm and if you’re going to buy a quartz watch it might as well be one made by the people who actually invented the technology
Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 🙏 Looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one. I’ve had a bunch of watches on my channel without bracelets, and still didn’t think they were overpriced. This one is though. And judging by the comments, a lot of people feel the same 😊
@@backintimewatches good point. To be fair, I bought the SNE 573 with the rubber strap for $365. Feels like the watch is worth every penny at that price point. 600 is more but values of watches seem so subjective
Nice review and comparison to the Citizen model. One point of clarification about your comments at 20:46 - just like the Citizen Eco-Drive, the V147 solar movement in the Seiko is powered by any light source, not just the sun. The details on charging times for different light sources are detailed in the manual for the Seiko.
Yes, it's overpriced, but sapphire crystal and true diver certification have to be taken into account as well. It looks way better than the Citizen but that's of course subjective.
That’s true. Thanks for watching 😊
@@Klunker1 Exactly what do you mean with “not true”? Just because you bought it at a lower price, doesn’t mean the initial msrp was the price you paid. At the price they wanted when they released this watch (when I made the video) the price was, in my opinion, too high. Now, if you bought it for $360 that’s another story and I congratulate you on a great deal 😊
@@backintimewatches sorry for the confusion. I’m going by current prices that range from $360 to $405. I agree with Francisco that it can’t compare to the Citizen in the video as they’re different size and style. I agree the bracelet is crap but I don’t wear bracelets anyway and have at least a half dozen straps already that look great on the watch. It’s really hard to find a diver in this size , very comfortable and great looking. If Citizen made something in this size I would be very interested.
I’m paying $380 Australian dollars for mine which is absolutely insane, about $270 US dollars
Have you dived with it? Depth?
It’s a great value at under $400. USD in 05/2022. I have plenty of automatic watches. I also have some Citizen solar quarts watches and they are my daily work watches. They keep great time without having to change a battery every few years and they are extremely reliable. I’m in hvac and they are not babied. I just bought this one and can’t wait to get it on my wrist!
I bought one in Japan and paid $386 in 10/14 . It is worth the money for it
@ Nice! So, I posted that comment 5/22. Here it is 11/24 and I’m still wearing the same watch as my daily work watch. I still enjoy wearing it. Still looks great. Keeps great time. (I only reset it spring/fall daylight saving time). Certainly has proven to be an outstanding value!
I got mine in Sep 2022 for $370. I love this watch. That bezel is perfection.
The price is very close to what I paid for my Casio Oceanus which is a titanium watch with a fully milled titanium bracelet, Sapphire crystal running a Tough Solar movement with Multiband 6, and World Time for 29 cities. I also own a few Eco Drives and they all have really decent specs for around 300 USD. Seiko seems to be ruffling a few feathers lately 😀
Thanks for watching and you can´t beat Casio when it comes to value :)
This is very overpriced.
The casio oceanus is a spectacular watch. I can't remember where I read this, but the company that seiko contracts out to do their GS finishings is the same company that Casio contracts to for their casework on the Oceanus and MRG line of watches.
@@pibblesnbits I've actually owned three Oceanus pieces and three Grand Seiko pieces and can confirm the Oceanus fit and finish is 95% as good as GS. Where Casio struggles is with the dial and hand finishing, which doesn't quite match Grand Seiko.
It might be a bit overpriced but design wise, you get pretty much perfect proportions... to me, that tips the scale as I won't long for another quartz in the 38mm category for a good while (well, at least for a year :))
Bought (the SNE575P1) for just 440 € (20% discount in an official shop) I find it a very equilibrated and nice looking watch, although for the MRSP of 550€ I wouldn't have bought it
I go for the Seiko just for its size, sapphire crustal and drilled lugs. However, I do think it is a bit expensive.
I’m a huge Seiko fan but even I have to admit that Seiko doesn’t offer great value in the sub-£500 range anymore. Quartz or automatic. Citizen and Orient, IMHO, offer better value in that price range for quartz and mechanical respectively.
Above £1k Seiko still offers great value, and GS offers unbelievable value.
Thanks for watching 🙏 In my eyes, that’s a true fan. Being able to praise the company they love when praise is deserved, and call them out when needed 👍
The watch is definitely not too expensive. I have a Seiko SPB143 with the 6R35 caliber and it is so inaccurate that it is no longer fun. It cost well over 1000 euros and is garbage. It looks very good, but that's about it. Repair attempt ended in disaster: First it went +10s/day, then again the old story.
I have the SNE573, solar perfection for sure. Been waiting a loooooong time for a mid-sized Seiko. It's about time. Great video, great review. And, yes, I agree with some of the comments that it is a bit overpriced. I got lucky and snapped up a used one for $325.00 Don't regret it a bit.
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I appreciate quartz to, and I'd like to get a nice HAQ watch at some point. No radio reception, no bluetooth, no problem.
If it's any help, I bought the Longines VHP Conquest HAQ and couldn't be happier. For the money, it's good value when compared to a new 9F GS. I recommend it.
@@citizent6999 HEY NOW, that looks like quite an interesting option actually. Thanks very much for the recommendation!
@@vonkruel if you do then check for aligned second hands and look at both sizes - they are fairly close - also look at the GMT HAQ option in the range.
The white dial seems most legible in all lighting and the least likely to date. Note the perpetual calendar and other interesting features. The whole case is very attractive and robust and the case-back is a stunner!
It's really a scientific instrument designed to tell THE exact time.
@@citizent6999 Actually I was thinking a GMT HAQ would check two boxes for my modest collection here. My wrist size is 20cm so I take the larger size when there are options. The Conquest VHP does look like a nice value proposition for sure. +/- 5 sec in a year is about twice as impressive as +/- 10, and the latter is no mean feat. Yes, I noticed the perpetual calendar and that's also an attractive feature to me. Legibility is important to me also (eyes aren't what they used to be), and I've been gravitating toward white dials. I recently received the Phoibos PY032E (white dial DLC dive watch) and I love the high contrast between hands & dial. There's not a ton of selection for HAQ, but 1 attractive watch that really shows what quartz can do -- that'll do it for me. Thanks again for pointing me toward Longines (move over, Grand Seiko).
@@citizent6999 Looking into this a bit more, I came upon the issue of changing out the battery (which is normally simple on a quartz). Do you plan on changing the battery yourself or sending it to Longines? It seems like you _can_ do it if the battery wasn't totally dead, but if it completely died you'd have to reprogram the watch (do instructions exist for that?). I also saw what you meant about the alignment of the seconds hand being something to look for.
Got my SNE571 (copper bezel and dial) for an equivalent of euro 230 / USD 264 recently where I live. Like you said, it's a great piece man.
That is a steal. May I know where are you from? The cheapest in Malaysia is 295usd, it is a banger if I can find a more affordable alternative at your country
Bought it for $388 on eBay. Happy so far.
I just got mine delivered today 😌 it looks great and feels good on the wrist 🤙🏽 thinking of replacing the original hollow bracelet with the one from uncle Seiko
Hi, is uncle seiko offer a bracelet for this particular watch? Or do you buy uncle seiko bracelet for other watch model but it is suited to this watch? Glad if you can share, I would like to change the bracelet when I received mine ariund end of this year
Right in the beginning, I have noticed nice quality video done outdoors. The audio is good too. I wonder what gear you used for the outside footage?
Iam impressed by the world map still saying Zaire.
Really, are solid end links and milled clasps better? Are they better because the watch world says they are, or do they perform the same? For me those things wouldn’t bother me so long as the watch is comfortable and doesn’t rattle, other than that only I’ll know these things, no one who sees my watch would know, so it’s not a deal breaker for me. Even sapphire is kind of gimmicky to me, but maybe that’s because I’ve never had a problem with mineral crystals. I just wanted to point out that these small details are, well, small, and probably more preference than anything. I would say build quality of this watch is excellent as is. My main concern would be how well the solar cell and battery hold up. I had a Seiko solar dive watch about 15 years ago and it didn’t last long. I just bought this model so I’m really hoping it’ll last longer this go around. The specs and looks are spot on, and the small details i mentioned really aren’t a problem to me, but then again that’s just me.
Something has to be said about pricing and styling. Not sure if I'm putting into the correct words but the Seiko looks like its price would suggest. Comparing the two to me the Seiko is a better looking what aesthetically by a long shot.
Yes, I agree, it certainly is. But, better looks does not cost more...
Both companys probably have design teams. Both desgin teams spent money designen their respective watch. Now, what me and you find more appealing is quite subjective and should not matter when pricing something.
Thanks for watching :)
Great video, man. Thanks.
These look great. Really great. But like other commenters here, I just can't countenance the price. £360-400 and I'd give it a long hard think. £500 is just too keen.
I agree 😊 Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏
Thanks for the great review! I agree it looks like a homage to a vintage Rolex/Tudor which I don’t even mind since it’s Seiko. (To be honest I think they knew it would be part of the appeal) It’s £500 in the UK. I absolutely would love this as an everyday watch but I think I would feel angry that I paid that price after purchasing it. £30 more gets you a seiko ‘King Samurai’ with an automatic movement with hand-winding and hacking, ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal.
That’s crazy thinking about that you could get a King Samurai for almost the same kind of money… Thanks for watching 🙏
citizen really needs to come out with a mid sized eco drive diver. they can even just make their bn0151 model sub 40mm and that's it. (i know there's a ladies version out there but it's just too small).
btw the seiko looks awesome. but at that price point there is a ton of better options
What about the Citizen Divers Eco Drive Bn0100-? Got one myself with a 6.5 wrist.
They gotta make an update to their BN0000-04h, some updated details but the same size and proportions
@@Televisiontechnology that one ist 41mm right? Just a tad too big I think
@@yuu0minae yes the 41mm version, im wearing on a 6.5inch wrist, though changed the strap to slim single pass nato and fits well.
Love your reviews! (Also that Citizen music was pretty damn rocking!). Can’t wait for an SKX review. As for price / quality I feel that most value is within current Seiko Presage line (I’m a diver guy, however JDM Presage is such a step up!). Just a tip on how to enjoy Seiko more. Try JDM Presage!
Thank you so much. I’m just doing my best and I’m glad you like it 😊
Somehow they sell it cheaper where I live, only 275 US$ so I bought it with no hesitation.
Looks like a Tudor SUB !Indeed! LOL good catch.
I just bought this for 356.00 tax in. At that price, this watch is a steal.😉👍🏼
I have newer brother of this watch - SNE593P1. I was about to get new Seiko GMT SSK003K1, but for about the similar price apart of Solar, it's Sapphire glass, screw down crown, prospex series logo, and Diver's 200m WR. Solar does not bother me, and thickness 10.7 is fantastic.
The only thing I don't like about old skool Quartz is having the battery change. If you do it yourself you always end up making scratches on your watch for the sake of putting in a 2 dollar battery. And paying a steep fee for someone letting it do is also just a waste of money.
Problem with automatics, is I run always late in the morning when preparing for work. I need something to grab that is still ticking, so yeah solar is my prefered work horse movement.
As for Seiko, I love them. But they are going serious up market. The previous Seiko 5 was around 150 USD, the new ones north of 300 USD, and you don't even get a saphire glass or a sollid link bracelet on your new 5 for the extra charge. You can buy Lorus instead, they are good value for money... But there is just something I don't like about that name. It like that Cheapo faux fashion store selling miss spelled brand names. Guess becomes Cuess, Armani Armano and Louis Vuitton Lewis Vyton. If you tell about your Lorus, people always think it's a rip off on Lotus you got in that store.
So yeah, Casio and Citizen Solar Quartz on my next year wish list, then maybe an automatic Lorus for that one vintage design they offer at that great price... And one previous gen Seiko 5 that is still around when I get some money to spare.
Excellent review! Beautiful watch but the price is too much though. The bracelet should at least have solid end links and a milled clasp IMHO.
Totally agree at this price point 👍🏴
You’re totally right, it’s either too expensive or lacking at the price point that it is 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏
The watch looks great and the dimensions are perfect but no solid end links or milled clasp for the price is a not great. Nice review. 👍🏽
I totally agree 😊 Thanks for watching and commenting 🙏
I found it at Joma for $299 after $20 discount. June 12, 2024. Seiko's list prices are like Invicta. Yes. The sne569. That one.
I went with the Tissot seastar 40mm quartz instead of the Seiko.
It's an option 👍
Dude it’s like you saw a top-100-tattoos list and decided to get all of them!
Almost like that 😂
But seriously, I wanted a sleeve made of things I like and think look cool, but not necessarily the same motif all the way. 😊
Thanks for watching man 🙏
I just bought a Seiko Prospex SNE586P1. Surprise surprise in the owners manual it says this watch rating (200m) is NOT recommended for diving! Good grief, "desk diver" indeed! I'm rescue diver certified and the whole reason for buying this watch was to dive with it. So my question, does anyone actually dive to 30 / 40m with these watches? Your feedback / experiences are most appreciated.
I really like the look of the Seiko. I've been debating between the Seiko and the Scurfa Diver one. The Seiko just seem a bit overpriced when comparing the two. Still like it though.
Very very different builds. Different movements.
A local dealer sells this one new for 439€. I still don't know if it's a good deal. For 530€ he sells a king turtle.
Get the King Turtle. You won’t regret it, I have two of them.
$280 in Australia on a black Seiko strap I love it
That's a sweet price!
where is it $280?
I wouldn't compare a mineral glass, 4 month battery life, world time watch with a sapphire glass divers watch with a 10 month battery life. I'm sure it has comparisons, but not this citizen. And also it MAY Appear that both are water resistent to 200 meters, but if it doesn't say 'Divers" it's not tested and approved to go down to 200 meters.
Just my own opinion but I think you might be better to stick with watches over 42mm. My wrist is 180 and I have a 39mm diver that I always find myself looking at and thinking it’s a couple mm too small, even though beautiful. My 42mm watches I don’t think that of. My 44mm watches I think look a bit too big but still wearable. With the size of your wrist and all the tatts I think you need more wrist presence. Having said that it is a nice looking watch and if you’re happy with it then awesome 👍🏼👍🏼
Nah, I actually like smaller watches now. Not small small, but around 40mm. And it actually all depends on the lug to lug ratio and how the bracelet tapers. A younger version of me would agree with you but I guess we change throughout the years 😊 Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 👍
@@backintimewatches I’m getting used to my 39mm. There are no rules. In years gone by watches were much smaller, possibly in the years ahead they will go back to smaller sizes. It’s a nice looking watch.
440 eur now in several jewelers websitea in Germany. That is acceptable IMHO, top of the list for me now!
Just looked... $500.. wow. If I was into diver style, wanted solar, I would've just got a Casio MTP-S110-1AVCF for $90. Of course, I'm frugal.
Another fantastic entertaining review. I’m down to one Seiko as well for all the reasons you mentioned. I sold my Captain Willard because the 6R35 was losing 90 sec per day. I still have my skx009. I love quartz and especially solar but this video will keep me from buying this diver. Thank you!
I want the bracelet but the black bezel version only comes on the strap. How blue is the bezel on this one, or does it appear more grey or light black in real life?
It´s actually more grey than blue when looking at it in dayligth.
I don't feel your Seiko & Citizen comparision is "apples to apples." The Citizen specs are 42mm case x 13.3mm thick, is a field watch style, with GMT and international time around the bezel. The Seiko is a "prospex" diver that is 38.5mm case x 10.6mm thick, with a traditional bezel and is dive rated. The Citizen is actually a GMT field watch and the Seiko a smaller, mid-size dive watch. I would not be looking at both of these for the same reason because of the size and style of each. You will typically pay more for a Seiko Prospex watch than similar Citizen. BTW: I own both Citizen Eco-Drive and Seiko Solar watches. I do, however, agree on your price issue. You can get this Seiko, and in other color variations, on Amazon or other sources for under $400.
Great looking watch. I collect solar watches. This along with the new Cartier Tank will be joining my collection this year. I’d jump on a Grand Seiko if they put a solar movement in a watch.
4k, cool shades, sushi.... sure I subscribe. Need to start buying more quartz watches.
Hehe, thanks man 🙏 Yeah, good choice. We all need some quartz in our lives 👍
I don’t understand the whole mechanical thing. Maybe I’m not enough of a enthusiast. But if I can put a watch in a draw for a week I want it to still tell the right time and work.
paid 380 usd for my Padi solar just today
At the grey market price (€350 or so) I think it offers quite good value. Still not Orient/Citizen level probably, but close enough. The looks is perfect though!
great vid thanx! hey what the difference between the sne 569p1 and sne 589p1? is it solely cosmetic?
Great video! Whatd you do to the bezel on the SKX009 - it looks lighter? I love it!
Is this pretty similar to the SNE591. I’ve been wanting that one but haven’t seen much info on it
Thank you for great review. can you tell me what material of bezel? SS or ceramic?
Great job on the video!
Thank you 😊
Nice tattoos, where did you get them done?
Thanks man 😊 Most of them are done at Adventureland Tattoo in Höganäs, Sweden. By the owner Daniel Norin 👍
WHats the lugwidth on the seiko? :)
It’s all in the video my friend 😊
Du pratade om scratch resistant. Hur känner du inför repor o eventuellt dings på din Rolex Gmt master2?? Har själv en datejust o känns förjävligt med repor o dylikt speciellt med tanke på att datejusten är polerad överallt..
Ska jag vara helt ärligt så är det ju inget man gärna vill ha på din klocka oavsett prisklass 😊 Och särskilt inte dings. Repor är oundvikliga och det kan jag leva med utan problem, men dings är lite värre…
Wrist size is a strange thing; wrist diameter goes a long way compared to circumference .I have a 17cm wrist and my sinn 556i + Casio duro fit great. I’m a 190cm athlete. Pieces with a slim design and good lug to lug fit easily. My 15.5mm high garmin on the other hand…
it cost exactly 300 usd in my country, i think its a bargain, and the size, its perfect
Love the video very honest informative
Your sun glasses are rainbun?
I agree! I recently purchased the green one which I returned. I didn't care for the solar cross on the dial and the QC was lacking. I too have now left Seiko, underwhelmed by them. No value left, oh well plenty of other killer brands out there.
How do you know when it’s fully charged??
I got the SNE, it’s a handsome watch but too small.
Is your bezel misaligned?
@@rafaelmassimo1549 No, I don’t think it was misaligned. Which is weird since that’s Seikos specialty 😂
i can get it for 281 usd brand new, should i pull the trigger??
Can I find the same Citizen but in 38 diameter?
I like the Seiko and solar is the set it and forget it way to go , but talking value Citizens can’t be beaten . My opinion is they don’t promote some watches enough , their Eco Drive system is faultless and will last 20 years plus .
Citizen is just the way to go if you are looking for value in general, still the seiko looks better.
Which model watch you are using on start of the video?
Do you mean the G-Shock Casioak Grey?
At 0.12 while you hold your hands behind your head there is a jubilee bracelet watch on your wrist, i meant it
Way over priced, should be £350 maximum in price!
the issue is : you can find citizen promaster titanium 200M diver watch for...250-300 bucks :/
I respect those citizen watches in their own right, but it makes more sense to pay an extra 200-300 bucks for a much better looking watch
The bad thing is that dial is black and not blue...
Those clasps are just terrible for a watch at this price point. The second hand hits just behind the tick marks.
Write the size of your wrist under the description of the movies;)
Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
But should I do that? The info is always in the video and if I wrote it, then you wouldn’t have to watch the whole video 😊
@500 it's too much
@350 it's a good offer
Kemarin aku di olshop malah dapet citizen harga di goreng 😢 harga lebih mahal lebih mending seiko ini
Great looking reliable watch, thinking about picking up its bigger 43.5mm brother
I love seiko. But compare this to a yema Pearl diver and the value is just not their. It’s a good looking watch though and you get the name but I’d probably get a Pearl diver.
Not even close aesthetically
Does the secondhand perfectly align with the minute marks?
Very beautiful and suits you
That misalignment… why seiko!?
Hard disagree on the price. For a solar diver with saphire, this is worth every penny because at that point its an investment watch that will take anything you throw at it. The Seikos that arent worth the box they come in? Any of the Lux line with the 6r series. Garbage unreliable movement. Yes, everyone knows a guy who knows a guys whos second cousin has one and hasnt had any issues with his, but the overall complaints of the irregularities of that movement are plentiful.
Seiko solar is fine, and old kinetic is fine, anything GS is fine. Don't bother with Seikos lower to mid tier auto's.
Also, if we're talking cost and think ~$500 is expensive, go take a look at Breitlings superquartz offerings and then get back to me.
Then I guess we will have to agree to disagree :)
@@backintimewatches I guess I'm a little lost as to the value metric used. It's an entirely in-house watch, and one that should last a lifetime. The only brand that can come close to offering that level of spec and price is Citizen due to economics of scale.
And let's be honest, anyone that pays msrp on a watch does it on purpose. Most Seiko AD'S offer 20% across the board anyway, even in 2023. Both my Breitlings were bought grey market, knowing full well they were ETA based and an in-house warranty wasn't needed.
Otherwise great review. If this was powered by the 4r movement and cost over $400, or a 6r and cost over $700 than I'd agree with you all the way to the bank. The best value Seiko has is anything not auto, or GS if the pockets are deep enough.
$420.00 usd on EBay. By the way the “beveled “ edge is called a “chamfered” edge.
the degree of angle determines whether it is a chamfered or beveled edge.
Thanks, there’s always room to learn something new 😊
@@cameronkrause4712 chamfered edges are use to ease sharp edges and may or may or may not be polished. Bevels are used for fit or esthetic purposes.
A beautiful watch! For $275-$300…
Great info, but the video could be shorter. My 2 cents.
So I bought the sne569 from a german dealer online. It arrived today. Stunning design, but for the first time I'm really disappointed in the finishing of a Seiko. The sides of the case are brushed unevenly in my example and the finishing of the top/upper edges of the bezel is shockingly bad. It's full of pitting. There were metal particles, dust from the bezel, in the box upon opening it. I was considering sending it back but I suspect they're all like that. Don't know what's going on but someone was sleeping in the factory. The bracelet looks like the mini turtles' and turtles' bracelets but it's a lot lighter. It's seiko 5 quality. I have mixed feelings. I fully agree on sight the watch is amazing, but handling it it's kind of a major disappointment. The finishing of skxes, turtles,... is a lot better. I will keep it but it's the last time I'm buying a Seiko (online) 😬
buy vintage. Look into the 7c43 professional or the 7548 watches. Built really well! Sorry about your experience. Personally, I'd return the watch and see if you can find on in person so that you can inspect it first.
No worries mate, there's ink everywhere
Much cheaper in the USA you can get them for $350
Citizen looks miles better!
Haha the clasp and the end links at that price xd. Always amazed of the balls of steel on seiko! 600 euro is like 750 dollars tho not a little over 600.
Ok so it’s a little overpriced but a maintenance free, solar quartz diver makes a lot of sense
Obviously Citizen have the market sewn up in this segment and make some fine divers
However - while they’re excellent they do lack character
Seikos have warmth and charm and if you’re going to buy a quartz watch it might as well be one made by the people who actually invented the technology
I do think it is over prices but not got $200.00. I think that if the bracelet was better it would be ok. Maybe $ 100 overpriced.
Yeps, but the citizen doesn't have the looks...and it is bigger.
The size man... perfect size.. 38.5mm and 46.5 lug to lug..
I like ⌚ it!
Quartz watches have no souls? Haha that a bit dramatic. 😂
It is 😀
They're 400$ on ebay(brand new), bruv
I bought it for 350usd, you shouldnt pay 600 😅 they ripp you off
I disagree. For 600 dollars this is about as perfect a watch can be. Looks like you are really into bracelets
Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 🙏 Looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one. I’ve had a bunch of watches on my channel without bracelets, and still didn’t think they were overpriced. This one is though. And judging by the comments, a lot of people feel the same 😊
@@backintimewatches good point. To be fair, I bought the SNE 573 with the rubber strap for $365. Feels like the watch is worth every penny at that price point. 600 is more but values of watches seem so subjective
I would love a nice quartz diver but I cannot convince myself to the condom-like hours hand on this one.
That is $970 Australian why would you pay that much for a Seiko Quartz and it’s not even that accurate and to say that it looks like a tutor really