it also seems weird because you can see the people going before you and use their beta. so if someone has some great beta right before you you have an advantage
Absolutely. I always thought that she had an air of the geek about her (in a good way) but he confirmed it with her talk of normals and reaction forces.
Wish ifsc finds the budget to invest in better camera work. Some channels do great analysis of body positions of athletes, Which only can be achieved, when there are same angles of every athlete. You just need some static cameras. Sorry to say that, but current state is just a mess.
It's not a budget issue it's a production management issue. It's cheaper to have 4 static cameras then to have 10 moving camera angles. The bigger issue is that they refuse to run split screen, which means you straight up can't see what's going on most of the time.
I like how the leaderboard says semi-finals. Between the camera work and not even knowing if its finals or semis, the IFSC might take the cake as being the worst event organization in modern sports.
So you're watching a cut down clipped version of the broadcast obv. The full broadcast mentioned a million times that this is a final with 20 athletes on boulders set for the semis, because rain cancelled the men's qualis. Surely you've already read about this?
@@wrathika thank you for solidifying my point. Imagine canceling a world class level event because the IFSC couldnt find a building with a roof. Buncha goofs running it.
@@Jacob0481 Isn't Bouldering WC always outside? It was outside also in SLC, Seoul, Prague, etc etc. I'm not sure IFSC is trying to find a building with a roof
@@zyxwl2015 thats their issue, maybe they should be looking for a place with a roof. This isnt the first encounter with poor environmental conditions causing issues with an event.
When I look at the comments, most people seem to agree: The multiple attempts on the stage are extremely confusing for viewers and, in particular, do absolutely no justice to the strong performance of the individual athletes. It would be really great if the format was reconsidered by the IFSC.
Ifsc relying on local channels for camera work is always a farce but this go around the profucer really seemed to forget they have a camera on the 1st 2 problems....so frustrating to be permanently stuck in boulder 3 and 4
This event was a fucking disaster. The geoblocking aswell is just a slap in the face to international fans. Beyond the stressed format, which I know is because of weather, the boulders themselves seemed strange and unbalanced. Camerawork was some of the sloppiest I've seen. The music was just plain offensive.
Yeah, these combined finals with 3 athletes out at once are not viewer friendly. Wish they wouldn't do this, end up missing 80% of the action and even the cameras are confused haha
First time I find myself completely mentally demotivated to keep watching cause of the camera work. Such a shame, I was really hyped to see it be back again.
They really are bad at preparing for potential delays or setbacks. How can you appreciate someone’s climbing when there are 4 people to watch at the same time?
Due to rain, the qualifications were cancelled. As a result, the semifinals took on the qualification format, and the finals were conducted in the style of semifinals.
Anyone know why van Duysen finished above Toby? From the leaderboard they were equal so I thought it would go to countback and Toby was higher from qualifying?
Yikes, that camera hurts! And I'm kinda disappointed about the commentary being more of a friends' chat with popcorn than what I'm used to at these comps. Don't get me wrong, Stasa's input on certain moves and such is really cool, but besides that I find Shauna Coxsey or Alanah Yip more professional and overall more pleasurable to listen to.
I'm not a fan of the setting in this one. Too dependent on swings, dynos' and jumps. Also, some of those missed jumps caused awkward landing for the climbers.
Why is the final showing all climbers at the same time like a semi final? super annoying to watch. @ifsc looking at the other comments, time to fix this and go back to the proper one-at-atime format so we can actually enjoy the final folks who worked really hard to get to the final
is there a live stream or complete video of this available? i find the cuts mid-sentence really irritating... I like that you want to make the whole thing shorter but at least let them finish the sentence they are speaking and keep the relevant commentary regarding technique and all. Last cherry on the top would be to replay the tops slowly.
Cameraman job is horrible! Showing all the climbers at once from a distance, occasional closeups...just a shame Upd: i gave up watchin after a 10min try. Just unwatchable
1.This is final or semi final? 2. Stasha is unprofessional and annoying. 3.dear ifsc use real and profesionál camera men, without wrong switch during important move. IT IS possibpe to splnit screen and show important moves from more than one boulder in the same tíme!
What are you talking about? This is the finals, there was a medal ceremony based on the standings. The men’s finals was done in the semi-final format because of a compressed schedule and delays.
Also, my impression when it comes to the boulders is that they do this on purpose to cause injuries to the athletes... and its actually looking like a circus obstacle race rather than climbing... I still wonder why people compete rather than going for natural boulder climbing or whatever... like there are no money in this.
Such a bad take buddy. The route setters do not intentionally try to injure climbers. No one does this for the money. I’m willing to bet almost every one of those climbers climbs outdoors as well. Climbing comps outdoors used to be a thing but they affect the crags too much.
OMG. Typical chaotic qualification camera work.
Dear IFSC: that was a final and deserved one exclusive cam per boulder!
I hate that they have multiple attempts on the stage at the same time. 2 is normally still bad, but 4 is insane.
The quali/semi was even worse, 10 climbers on at the same time 😭
it also seems weird because you can see the people going before you and use their beta. so if someone has some great beta right before you you have an advantage
@@SkiingIsBelieving859 that really sucks
Stasa in the commentary booth is an instant like for me.
Bro same
Absolutely. I always thought that she had an air of the geek about her (in a good way) but he confirmed it with her talk of normals and reaction forces.
Stasa & Matt commenting - priceless 😍
Agree, it's one of my favorite duos 😄
the camera switching on this transmission is completely bonkers.
The same is with the womens final compilation. They cut everything out except for the actual climbing.
and ofcorse the netherlands had a geo block on the live and didnt stream it on any platform..
Also when the hell is starting the final?
@@verbunt18 Yeah, really sucks coukld only watch the high lights.
yes, it's unclear if it's bad camera work or if it's just the format being viewer-unfriendly
All four boulders on the screen at the same time. What a pain!
Would be nice on 4k+ with four monitors side by side, but who has that.
Wish ifsc finds the budget to invest in better camera work.
Some channels do great analysis of body positions of athletes,
Which only can be achieved, when there are same angles of every athlete.
You just need some static cameras.
Sorry to say that, but current state is just a mess.
It's not a budget issue it's a production management issue. It's cheaper to have 4 static cameras then to have 10 moving camera angles.
The bigger issue is that they refuse to run split screen, which means you straight up can't see what's going on most of the time.
Jakob the first after dozens holding the damn crazy move , boom ! camera switch
This made me cry
Use this comment as a thumbs up if you think this format is insane to watch.
Insanely shit yeah
Insanely shit yeah
I like how the leaderboard says semi-finals. Between the camera work and not even knowing if its finals or semis, the IFSC might take the cake as being the worst event organization in modern sports.
So you're watching a cut down clipped version of the broadcast obv. The full broadcast mentioned a million times that this is a final with 20 athletes on boulders set for the semis, because rain cancelled the men's qualis. Surely you've already read about this?
@@wrathika thank you for solidifying my point. Imagine canceling a world class level event because the IFSC couldnt find a building with a roof. Buncha goofs running it.
@@Jacob0481 you'll get no argument from me on that. I'm not sure why these indoor events need to be outside if there are no weather contingencies
@@Jacob0481 Isn't Bouldering WC always outside? It was outside also in SLC, Seoul, Prague, etc etc. I'm not sure IFSC is trying to find a building with a roof
@@zyxwl2015 thats their issue, maybe they should be looking for a place with a roof. This isnt the first encounter with poor environmental conditions causing issues with an event.
When I look at the comments, most people seem to agree: The multiple attempts on the stage are extremely confusing for viewers and, in particular, do absolutely no justice to the strong performance of the individual athletes. It would be really great if the format was reconsidered by the IFSC.
Ifsc relying on local channels for camera work is always a farce but this go around the profucer really seemed to forget they have a camera on the 1st 2 problems....so frustrating to be permanently stuck in boulder 3 and 4
And we didn't get Tomoa's attempts on #2, that was annoying af
Toby is so good on the slow controlled movements on slabs. Insane how he can keep his cool in such a situation
35:14 is a beautiful serendipitous moment - I didn't know which great toe they were talking about until a second watch!
This event was a fucking disaster. The geoblocking aswell is just a slap in the face to international fans. Beyond the stressed format, which I know is because of weather, the boulders themselves seemed strange and unbalanced. Camerawork was some of the sloppiest I've seen. The music was just plain offensive.
Justice for Jakob - Matt had no faith that he made the beta break work on M4!
Congrats to the podium
That Stasha does a super commentary / on the edge of irreverance sometimes - Spicy ! More often please if she has the opportunity.
Yeah, these combined finals with 3 athletes out at once are not viewer friendly. Wish they wouldn't do this, end up missing 80% of the action and even the cameras are confused haha
Bouldern No2 is the max verstappen of bouldering it's so hard to beat it doesn't get any air time
lol
14:14 Why tf is the camera not change to where the action is, Im so piss
“I’m so piss” 😂
Bob Saget!
First time I find myself completely mentally demotivated to keep watching cause of the camera work. Such a shame, I was really hyped to see it be back again.
I love it when Stasa is commenting. Wish i could watch the whole thing somewhere
Boulder 2 is dangerous af
Mawem is so crazy good. His hands are like magnets!
Well technically hes not that good according to the leaderboards
@@Jacob0481Well, he’s the current world champion, so there’s that.
@@Lenniiii what competition are you basing this from?
He's the 2023 bouldering world champion
@@fraz_the_mediocre we in 24 big dog
It says finals but is it acutally? What format is this all the sudden? The Womens was as usual, right?
The semis got rained off
Matt, to progress as a climber you have to internalize the concept of perpendicular 😜
They really are bad at preparing for potential delays or setbacks. How can you appreciate someone’s climbing when there are 4 people to watch at the same time?
I’m confused. Is this Semi-final or Final?
Final, the qualifications were rained out
Will is currently the best boulderer out there
Camera is terrible, I guess it was never meant to be published to the internet.
Now think that people are actually supposed to get Eurosport subscriptions for this crap.
Stasa has super cool energy too
Can someone explain me why this is a semi-final and also a final?
Due to rain, the qualifications were cancelled. As a result, the semifinals took on the qualification format, and the finals were conducted in the style of semifinals.
@@ClimbingRocksAU Thanks for the support ⛰️⛰️
Anyone know why van Duysen finished above Toby? From the leaderboard they were equal so I thought it would go to countback and Toby was higher from qualifying?
Hannes score was 2T3z 4 4, Tobys was 2T3z 4 6. So it looks like attempts on zone was the difference.
@@ClimbingRocksAU Ah cheers
how is the camerawork constantly so damn shitty kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
"Crowd cheering for Micka Mawen toping boulder number 1 offscreen" ... Damn ! Hopefull there is replay after!
Why wasn't Adam ondra there?
What a line up, always great to see Max and Toby representing 🇬🇧
This is the semi finals?
yes
Is this the final??
Yes. Qualifications were rained out, so this ended up being the finals.
So annoying that you cut 10 seconds out in the middle of 4 guys bouldering..
The video title says it's the finals but it's not
Way too many climbers at once, basically unwatchable
Bonjour, c'est écrit finale hommes mais c'est plutôt la demi-finale en fait, il y a erreur dans le titre.
I don't like this split view on multipule people climbing...
three boulders at the same time is not nice to watch, too confusing
Stasa !!!
In my opinion the montage need to be different, a cam for every athlete, with cut on the rest part. Hard to watch multiple sessions.
Yai staja commenting
Yikes, that camera hurts! And I'm kinda disappointed about the commentary being more of a friends' chat with popcorn than what I'm used to at these comps. Don't get me wrong, Stasa's input on certain moves and such is really cool, but besides that I find Shauna Coxsey or Alanah Yip more professional and overall more pleasurable to listen to.
I want to see more competitors at the same time! It sucks
I'm not a fan of the setting in this one. Too dependent on swings, dynos' and jumps.
Also, some of those missed jumps caused awkward landing for the climbers.
they should fire some one for displaying such an event in 2024 like this
Wtf is this format with 1+ people climbing simultaneously? I can only focus to one person...
Yikes camerachaos makes me mad. Why filming anyways when you dont wanna do it the right way?
It is not the finals
Please don't speed up the video in editing!!
Why is the final showing all climbers at the same time like a semi final? super annoying to watch. @ifsc looking at the other comments, time to fix this and go back to the proper one-at-atime format so we can actually enjoy the final folks who worked really hard to get to the final
jesus christ this format they do with multiple climbs at once is SO unwatchable.
is there a live stream or complete video of this available? i find the cuts mid-sentence really irritating...
I like that you want to make the whole thing shorter but at least let them finish the sentence they are speaking and keep the relevant commentary regarding technique and all.
Last cherry on the top would be to replay the tops slowly.
And the worst video and worst event award goes to IFSC!
Cameraman job is horrible! Showing all the climbers at once from a distance, occasional closeups...just a shame
Upd: i gave up watchin after a 10min try. Just unwatchable
Awful format! Jumping from one athlete to the next like that isn't fair to them, they all deserve to have their performance shown 😤
I don‘t like the routesetting. Too much of the same.
why ifsc is so unprofessional? 😐😐😐
Another IFSC fail this comp...
Tomoa on slabbbb!!!!
Janja rules!!!!
Frustrating Camera work
Ok is it me or does Stasa bring like sexy to the boulder comp commentator voice along with dropping the knowledge. 👍
This is so far removed from real climbing now . Total dross .
Camera work is horrible nobody’s trynna see 3 people climb at the same time man irritating more than anything
Unwatchable, one boulder at a time please.
Its semi finals
Janya could do these
I absolutely hate this format
nobody wants to talk about how israel shouldn't be competing?
No, guess people come here to enjoy the sport and not talk about politics.
1.This is final or semi final?
2. Stasha is unprofessional and annoying.
3.dear ifsc use real and profesionál camera men, without wrong switch during important move. IT IS possibpe to splnit screen and show important moves from more than one boulder in the same tíme!
This is not finals, change the name of the video, please
What are you talking about? This is the finals, there was a medal ceremony based on the standings. The men’s finals was done in the semi-final format because of a compressed schedule and delays.
The semis got rained off Jesus chill out
Stasa is annoying commentator
It appears Colin Duffy is out of favor… the German is all important.. and the black French kid….. who makes these decisions?
Guessing he's older than you are, and also the 'black French kid' happens to be the world champion.
Affirmative action in sport climbing…. When the black kid is on the wall… nobody else matters…. How did we get here?
What the fuck am i reading
Shut up dude, bc he is the first boulder ranking
He's the world champ (& he's like 30 mate)
Dial back the racism. The 'black French kid' is the World Champion.
33 even ( thx ifsc website)
Also, my impression when it comes to the boulders is that they do this on purpose to cause injuries to the athletes... and its actually looking like a circus obstacle race rather than climbing... I still wonder why people compete rather than going for natural boulder climbing or whatever... like there are no money in this.
Such a bad take buddy. The route setters do not intentionally try to injure climbers.
No one does this for the money.
I’m willing to bet almost every one of those climbers climbs outdoors as well. Climbing comps outdoors used to be a thing but they affect the crags too much.
Try to troll better next time!