Longer term investing with LEAPs
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Selecting the equity then correlating the strike price and the delta is a big deal gained with trading experience.
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Thank you so much for sharing that with everyone! Hopefully my 15 years of working with clients and sharing both successes and failures helps you become a better investor.
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There are many interesting stocks in many industries that you might follow. You don't have to act on every forecast, so I'll suggest that you work with a financial advisor who can help you choose the best times to purchase and sell stocks.
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I love this strategy bc I love Covered Calls. Imo this strategy is best used if you want to take delivery of the stock and you believe the thesis. If you find a great story, buy a 65-70 Delta call 9 months out, sell 25 Delta front month calls to reduce cost basis. If your story is correct you get to buy your stock at a much lower price 1 year in the future. So focus energy on the "story". This is excellent strategy to lock in a price bc you want to own the stock. I don't see leaps as a trading strategy. I want to own a $100 stock for $50 and have the front month calls pay off the price of the option. Then once you buy aka take delivery at 50, there's a lot of equity built into your 100 shares. Then sell calls until the cows come home 🙂🙂🙂. Summation...find a great story and this strategy is ideal.
so say you sell MSFT calls and buy it back for a lower cost. How do you own MSFT? Or is there something I'm missing here?
@@joenguyenps I'm not sure exactly what your scenario is but i will try to explain more clearly. When you buy the long option for 9 months you have paid a debit for the call. to finance the purchase of the call you can sell (collect premium) every month for 9 months. Each time you sell a front month call you are reducing the cost of the Long Call. After 9 months most the original debit was paid off. at that point you can exercise the call and take delivery of the stock, with hopefully a lower strike the the current price of the stock, or you can just take nice profits by selling just the Long Call and never taking delievery of the stock.
sometimes the front month call may be threatened or approached. if that happens you can roll up the front month call by buying to close the front month call and then selling a new call with a higher strike. this is usually a god thing bc that means your stock is going up and the Long Option is gaining value. when you roll up you are NOT affecting your Long Option. They are separate positions.
Time stamp 36 minute ITM vs OUT chart. Buying one $85 call LEAP @ $20 vs buying four $110 CALL LEAPs @ $5. Putting out same amount of money. Top to bottom, I lose 20 vs 20, 20 vs 20, 5 vs 5 $1500 Gain vs $2000 Gain $4500 Gain vs $14,000 Gain What am I missing? It seem to me, putting out equal amount of money, my losses are the same, but the $110 CALL LEAPs generate more money, $9,500 MORE
Your comment about buying out of the money Leaps (at 37:30) misses the mark because percentage gain i.e., Return on Risk (ROR) is the most important metric, IMHO.
At the $120 stock price, the $20 Leap makes 75% but the $5 Leap makes 100%.
At the $150 stock price the $20 Leap makes 225%, but the $5 Leap makes 700%.
Also, just looking at values at expiration doesn't address the profit potential if one is lucky enough to realize a steady increase in stock value immediately after getting into the position. Early stock appreciation capitalizes on the very low theta values in the early life of the Leap and allows you to exit with a high-profit percentage early in the game even though Leaps are thought of as longer-term vehicles.
I find myself at a crossroads, uncertain whether to liquidate my $150,000 stock portfolio. I'm seeking advice on the best strategy to capitalize on this current market.
Well the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward and such impeccable decisions are better guided by professionals
Yes true, I have been in touch with a financial advisor. With an initial starting reserve of $80k, my advisor chooses the entry and exit commands for my portfolio, which has grown to approximately $550k.
I’ve been looking to switch to an advisor for a while now. Any help pointing me to who your advisor is?
My consultant is Nicole Desiree Simon She has since provide entry and exit points on the securities I focus on. You can look her up online if you care for supervision.
Thank you for the lead. I searched her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
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amazing to see What GE actually did since this video
LEAPS are a vega (Implied Volatility) play. IV must be relatively low. If IV goes down you lose much.
You bought (?#contracts) $10 for $ 288 target or Jan. 2022. Today 11/221 Ge Is $95.90, what a fantastic leap Call you made.9X .such a deal. Congratulations.
thanks for the webminar. excellent .
Thank you Jose! Glad you found this helpful
Excellent enlighting video. Loved the strategy and becoming another tool to work with. Many thanks Tony you are a five star.
Thank you, Alfredo!
Please break the video into index chapters it helps a lot thanks
Like your explanations and thanks for sharing
Thank you Tony!
Thanks Tony for great tips....
Excellent Video, Thanks!
Great video! BTW synthetic's use less buying power: Example: AAPL 45 day exp buying power 3k verses buy thing the stock 11k. I use them (occasionally) for that reason alone.
Watched this video again this morning. Gained more insight after a few more weeks trading options and watching the video again. It's been a struggle for me to fight the temptation of selling shorter dated options to collect a little more yield from the premiums vs. going out to the 45 DTE options. But watching the video again and then comparing to my recent trades, I'm quickly trusting that 45 DTE criteria vs. selling the shorter dated options. Do you think it would be a good video to do to compare why it's better to pick 45 DTE vs. say a one week or two week option and how the Greeks affect options as they approach expiration?
THanks again Rich for the great video. I trade stock and option. Beginner
Hello Ronald! If you need any help, as a beginner, my mentor can help you out. You can reach out to him on his gm address
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Never trade leap spreads. Negates time decay. 58:50
I think u still need to look at the volatility surface to decide whether to go itm or otm
This one suggested my video. I appreciate it and good video!
Great video!
Thanks!
Does it make sense to do a debit spread on a leap vs straight leap? For example SLV Jan 23 $21 calls for $3.50 vs Jan 23 $23/$33 calls spread for $1.76 ?
No, you’re better off turning your LEAP into a diagonal. The short call on a LEAP decays at such a slow rate, it defeats to some degree the purposes of a debit spread. Selling shorter dated calls frequently against your LEAP will generate more premium over the life of the LEAP.
I use LEAPS as asset , NIO can move 10$ and the LEAP will move hence you can trade the LEAP but correct if you held the LEAP to expiration NIO would need to be above $65
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great teaching !
Glad you think so!
Thank you for such a great Video. How to screen for good stocks for Leaps?
‘E sold 2 $70 calls x Feb 2022 & 1 $80 call for Mar.2022 on NIO. Fuuuiiiiu, need good luck.
Hi Tony, Nice video. What is the impact of Time Value and stock movement esp. if the stock is moving in a small range. For e.g. Fast forward to now 21/11/2021, Nio is trading at $39 and the Jan 2022 is trading at around $2.7 against your purchase price of $23.80 almost 90% discount. So how do you treat such a case. This seems to be a total loss, if you had purchased Nio 100 shares @44, your loss would only be $500-600 and you would be holding 100 Nio Shares with unlimited upside? Appreciate your thoughts please. Thanks.
Thank you! Very informative and useful.
Amazing training! So, lets say Tesla is tanking and is at 150 share price and $37 million is bought on Tesla 230 Puts that expire on June 21st (2 months away) would that person make a ton of money if tesla continues to tank?
Thanks for this great video tony
Really helpful. Thank you for your efforts.
Thanks for watching!
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Great explanation! A very detailed description of Leaps. Thank you!
Thanks!
Pls explain.. Ge hasn't been below 50 in last 5 yrs
With the poor man's covered call, is it possible to get assigned prior to 2-3 weeks before expiry? Tony seems to indicate that the strategy of rolling the short call 2-3 weeks before expiry guarantees that you won't get assigned. Is this true? And which is it 2 weeks, or 3 weeks?
with a LEAP that is going against me, underlying stock is plummeting, but I still have a year until expiration. How about rolling another year out sooner than I would normally (3 months prior exp) Rollout while the LEAP price is cheap? Assuming I remain bullish on a stock that has lost much of its price during this tech sell-off (high beta stocks) Also, this assumes I have the capital to bother with rolling out to buy more time for the stock/LEAP to recover in price, potentially...
So in terms of liquidity, what kind of volume and open interest would be optimal for a LEAP option?
We use bid/ask spreads to measure liquidity, not OI and volume. We publish a liquidity list each day that you can access through your OptionsPlay platform.
@@optionsplaycanada2877 What B/A spread becomes "too wide"?
Thanks for the this sharing. Learnt a lot from your videos. 👏
you guys are helpful.
Glad to hear that!
You are amazing. Thank you
Thank you!
Also rising interest rates increases the premium of LEAPS vs a regular option - I think I have that correct. Usually I stub my stock position with a slight OTM LEAP for a total return along with prudent call writing.
Question on the slide about reducing cost basis. You state that you must roll your short calls 2-3 weeks before expiration to avoid assignment. Does that go for calls that are trending to look like they may expire worthless too? Or just make it a rule of thumb to always roll them out? Thanks so much for these videos.
Yes, especially calls that look like they will expire worthless, paying a few pennies to buy them back and remove all exercise risk. We have seen too many investors over the years think that the call is going to expire worthless, shocked on Monday morning when news over the weekend causes them to have a huge losing position. Not worth the headache over a few pennies.
@@OptionsPlay Thank you very much for responding. I have learned a lot from your videos and watching on CNBC.
@@JamesGirardi69 don't always follow cnbc imo
I am watching this 3 years after initial broadcast. For the GE Leap, how much time are you buying?
Zebra better than leaps or pmcc? Opinion please
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Thank you Tony!
Great stuff. Thank you.
I'm not sure why he said that exercising your option (if your poor man's covered call get's exercised) is almost never a good option. My understanding is that he's referring to not maximizing the upside of the stock, or does he mean that you'd lose money by doing so.
Anyone with knowledge please advise -
Let's say I buy a call for company XYZ which is trading at $103. Let's say I buy 1 call option expiring Jan 2023 - strike 100 for which I pay a premium of $2800.
In a few days, XYZ is trading at 105 and I decide to sell a poor man's covered-call expiring 8 weeks from now for strike of 130 for which I collect $50. I would do this with the expectation that in 8 weeks the likelihood of stock hitting 130 is rather low. However, on expiry (8 weeks later), if XYZ gets to $132 and my option gets exercised, how much money would I make? Or would I actually lose money in this trade?
These q&a people seem like they didn’t even watch the presentation.
They kept asking the same questions. These guys are in our stock market lmao.
Correct in a RRSP you cannot write covered calls in Canada
Difference between 60-90 call option and leaps ? What’s more optimal ?
when buying calls, ITM >> OTM
Is fundamental analysis just as important for LEAPs strategies as technical analysis? What do you look at to analyze relative implied volatilty in order to avoid buying something which is overpriced?
Yes, with a longer time frame, you should be focusing on the story/fundamentals as much as the technicals. To avoid buying high implied volatility, a good rule I follow from Larry McMillan is to only buy options that are in the 10% imp volatility percentile or lower for the the last year. As a guideline, these periods usually occur after earnings are announced.
Dividend capture that can ruin a poor mans covered call. How often does that happen?
That's so silly.
Your example of GE trading at $11.30
how is 1 contract costing $288 be "25% of the stock"? LOL
And for your case of Amazon and other expensive stocks,
itm options would cost way more than the price the stock lol...
How do you collect the option premium data in the google spread sheets. ie. 1:18:04
CONN the next meme stock take a look THIS STOCK IS BEING SHORTED BIG TIME WE CAN GET A BIG JUMP IN THE PRICE KEEP IT GOING CONN CONN
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Tony. Wouldn't TSLA be a candidate for LEAPS puts?
cant go wrong with leaps,
37:21 why not just buy 4 contracts OTM then? and get that 100% return instead of the 75% return
I guess it is bcz there is no guarantee that the stock will go to that price. Those side by side comparisions assumes that you are right with the direction the stock will move to. Picking ITM instead of OTM is a safer bet.
what about 6 month call spread along with a call calendar e,g 5-10 callspread then sell 11-11 strike 6-12month calendar
tHANK YOU
i can't see GE stock being at 11.30 in the 5 years historical?...hmm...
GE stock did a massive "reverse stock split"... So shares are trading much higher and the historical charts changed to reflect this fact
@@000destruct0 I see, thanks
I'm interested in trading but everyone on youtube looks greasy. This stuff is incredibly complex so at the very least if your videos are over an hour in length you're not trying to appeal to people with short attention spans, which is a good indicator.
Interested
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Great info here bud
What is the best strategy for leaps option ?
LMAO he literally answered this VERY question multiple times 💀
LEAP's rock.
Yeah they're great if used correctly.
Very good viedo in leap option on GE
Why avoid your short call being excercise? You were pretty adamant. If the stock goes up to my short call, my long call is excercise at a higher price than I paid and I keep the short call premium. Is lock in gains. If I still like the story buy more leaps with the money from my excercised long leap. As opposed to, lock in a loss buying back the short call and then risk stock going down and losing money on the long call? Am I missing something? Letting it excercise let's you reset everything and avoids losses. Am I missing something?
Letting go your time value in that case i guess.
Can I do diagonal spread for leaps option.
Why you do not bye in the money for short term calls . Thanks brahma
great vid tony
Thank you I really appreciate it.
Hi Tony, in regards to STOP LOSS in a basic Buy on a Call, how do you set a Stop Loss?
I'm no longer waiting for the GRANT LOAN because I earn $29,700 every 10 days recently
Lol. If you called that GE option, you fucked up
Maybe expand your pip.. more personal presence.
What technical indicators you have on your charts?
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to loose 1300 on a stock vs 228 on option, the stock has to be delisted… which is very unlikely for the stock we considering far out call option ;) so the solid stock rarely goes to abyss
i have 2 year leaps within my TFSA and RRSP. the answer is yes its possible.
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Can you do poor mans covered call - Short OTM CALL on OTM LEAP?
Generally, you would buy an ITM LEAP and sell an OTM call, in theory you could do an OTM LEAP, just understand that it's not a stock replacement strategy.
Terminology is confusing: you are mixing cost basis versus risk ! Leap calls reduces the cost compared to buying stocks but it INCREASES the risk since you can lose all the money if it doesn't go in your direction. In your slides, you say that leaps "reduces risk", which is not correct. it increases risk instead ! A defensive investor should not go for leap calls !
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