The Ramshorn Kirk; Astonishing Glasgow. Ep30
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- For video number 30 I am out in the sun for a wander around Glasgow's Astonishing Ramshorn Kirk.
I do love a wander around an interesting graveyard and this one does not disappoint with Prime ministers, the rich and famous of 1700's Glasgow and an unfortunate victim of a murder that scandalised Glasgow, Scotland and the world.
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Very interesting. Also I've never made the connection behind the meaning of a "wake" so that's something new I learned today.
Many happy memories of the Ramshorn theatre. It was my favourite venue to perform at and the sense of community shared by staff, performers and audience was unmatched by any other theatre. The foyer was bedecked with photos from many Strathclyde Theatre Group productions and featured quite a few familiar faces, with Peter Capaldi and Tony Curran being amongst those who had cut their teeth there. Both Peter and Tony joined the campaign to save the venue when the university decided to close it down but unfortunately it was a lost cause.
I liked the way you used the great weather to enhance your interesting video.
Its always sunny in Glasgow. 😉
Amazing story
Thanks for this video, it was very interesting.
Another fantastic video - for which many thanks. Great research, particularly of 'The Falling Kirk'. So called (allegedly) on account of the steepness of the steps on which people would fall (down or up, presumably) if not watching their step. I do not know what truth there might be in the tale. having been at Strathclyde, as student and staff covering the last half century and a bit, I am ashamed to admit I have never been in the building!
Point of order - and a very minor one at that. The rejected suitor of Madeleine Smith - the guy who lived up the stair - had the surname of Minnoch (no Mc/Mac).
AND David Lean (of Dr Zhivago and Lawrence of Arabia and countless other classic films fame, dramatized the case in in 1950 in the film 'Madeleine' starring the wonderful Ann Todd. A young Molly Weir has a small (uncredited) part. It is available on TH-cam at:
th-cam.com/video/aKkVPnMatfg/w-d-xo.html
Highly recommended! Looking forward tot he next video.
Cheers Alistair, I must have miss spoken as I have Minnoch written in my script.
One part of the story that I didn't go into might add to what you heard about the steep steps. Part way through the construction of the church, Rickmans designs were changed by the clerk of works and the front door and steps were changed from the original design. Not only did the front steps become much steeper but the front door gained a stone pillar down the middle making the entrance two very narrow doors rather than one wide door. The clerk of works was lambasted in the press for these changes but they survive to this day.
Madeline Smiths story will be told in a future video, this video approaches the case from Pierre's perspective.
There's litterally a part of history under every rock in Glasgow ! Thanks for the video and take care :)
I remember the Ramshorn very well. My grandfather was the church officer and caretaker, and my grandmother was the cleaner during the last ministers' tenure. I used to play in the graveyard after Sunday service and used to accompany my grandfather when he would open the church hall for the girl guides or the Glasgow police pipe band
Thats great to have a personal connection to the church like that. Thank you for sharing.
Excellent video. I went there a few years back, trying to find the grave of Peter McDougall (1777-1814). He was an ornithologist and discovered the Roseate Tern. (He found the tern breeding in Millport, but nowadays its very rare in the UK, and almost absent in Scotland, a few pairs in the Firth of Forth bred there till about 2009.) Unfortunately I couldn't find his grave.
Great information, thanks for sharing. The only problem now is I will feel the urge to go and try to find Peter McDougal 🤣
@@AstonishingGlasgow I have been told that the Ramshorn church people (Strath. Uni?) hold a book of the burials, so that even if they aren't marked you can find the rough place. McDougall is little known outside ornithology; and even inside the field of ornithology is not known well. The problem being that the latin name for the tern Sterna Dougallii omits the 'Mac', an omission the fault of George Montagu, an Englishman who wrote a ornithological dictionary.
Thanks!
Just came across your channel.. very interesting subbed 🤗👍
As per previous comments, I myself have walked by this old church. I did not know that access to its grounds can be achieved. Will lookout for this when back in Glasgow. Good video by the way.👍😎
Many thanks for this video . I’ve walked through this wee cemetery a couple of times without knowing much about those buried here ! I’ll now revisit having more info about it .
Very enjoyable. Hope you enjoyed your double nougat !!!
My dad was a gas pipe fitter. When digging up Ingram St outside the kirk, they found bones. Police were involved. Found out the graveyard extended out further than first thought.
Thanks BTJ, I've passed that church many times and didn't realise that the grounds were so extensive. Another interesting video.
I'd love to go a wee cycle with you sometime, I know some great wee historic places in Cambuslang I could show you
Also some of the graves you were looking for will probably be inside the church crypt as there were a lot of marked graves in that area
In the early 70s I was part of a team which was renewing a gas service pipe into the front of the church - we dug up some bones! The police came along and put them back into the soil.
It happened again in the early 90s when they were installing cable tv
So maybe the Foulis brothers weren't the only ones who didn't get moved.
Great video
Can you please do a video on the Polmadie Martyrs ??
It is on the list as the old Cathcart graveyard is right outside my front window. I am waiting for some minor knee surgery and stories close to home will be covered when I can't cycle.
@@AstonishingGlasgow Looking forward to it!
The full name of the church was Saint Paul's outer High and Saint David's Ramshorn, and time was an amalgamation of two churches. I believe Saint Paul's was a church in the Rottenrow which closed, and the congregation moved to the Ramshorn.
Not sure about your derivation of "wake". i believe it's older, influenced by the belief that the soul takes three days to leave the body. But they can both be right! Your videos are important!
That could absolutely work too, I just told the version I know and anybody who thinks they are right all the time stops learning so I will store that reason for later use.👍
Thanks!
Thanks!
Wow, thank you so much Christine.