Shaw strikes me as what happens when the chief engineer who has been constantly dealing with Captain and Admiral level bullshit finally gets promoted to Captain he is damn straight going to speak his mind. Actually endearing in a way.
Fun fact: Captain Shaw is humming "Don't you (forget about me)", which is the song his actor sings in the TV show, 12 Monkeys, also led by Terry Matalas.
Liam Shaw is one of the most relatable and understandable characters on tv, I thought I hated him when he first appeared but now want a tv series about his Titan after this series.
Gotta admit, Shaw is that special type of jerk you can't help but love. Trek needed him! Outside of maybe that episode of DS9 with the temporal investigations guys talking smack about Kirk's terrible record, we've never had such a refreshing take on the heroes shenanigans! 😆
He's a regular joe who *knows* how much this stuff should be BS but isn't. He's acting like how a lot of people would react if they were put in a "space fantasy sci-fi action" world.
I can see where he's coming from. Two legends suddenly are interested in his ship - which had to be immediately suspicious. They then try to deceive him about their intentions, and ultimately steal a shuttle... the saving of which put the Titan-A in real jeopardy against the Shrike. Yeah, I'd be a bit salty, too.
OK, Trek needed a dialogue like that. Wolf 359 and Jack Crusher aside, I suspect part of Starfleet is puzzled by how the Enterprise crew got reliably in trouble every week for years.
@@ernestnichols5186 Well, but most of those missions were minding their own business, then being controlled by aliens, being sent to another galaxy by demigods, being infected by unknown viruses, etc., rebelling against Starfleet, meeting the Captain's Clone who wants to destroy Earth, crashlanding, having the ship exploded, etc. I wonder how often it happens to other crews.
@@mertyol The Lower Decks crew is exactly the kind of crew I expect to find trouble every week, but I can believe that, except for Wolf 359, Captain Shaw's service has been uneventful or at least unsurprising. Fighting a battle is not a surprise if you are in war, but having your ship taken over by Wesley Crusher is. 🙂
His word selection was perfection. I loved it when he said "snog". His reference to the chicken and egg thing was pretty good too. That was the example Picard used with Data to explain the paradox.
In all fairness, the Devron anti-time anomaly never happened, the Ba'ku fiasco also involved a corrupt admiral colluding with Dominion allies and the saucer section crash could have been MUCH worse... That being said, Riker did lose a battle against an outdated Bird-of-Prey in a state-of-the-art Galaxy-class, so...
Yeah, Shaw must have forgotten that the Baku had warp technology but abandoned it to live simpler lives. Picard didn't violate the Prime Directive (that time) but did stop a rogue admiral from doing it.
Maybe so. Complacency leads to disaster, and the enterprise learned that the hard way. Still, the Duras' won the battle but lost the war. They didn't destroy the enterprise and kill everyone on it, and it got restored into a museum ship.
One of the most memorable scenes in all of Trek, and that’s saying something. Shaw was a superb character who provided a distinct perspective on Picard, Riker and the enterprise crew.
Picard: "I don't need to be lectured by you. I was out saving the galaxy when you were still in diapers. Besides which, I think the galaxy owes me one" Kirk: "That's my boy!"
Shaw: "If you'd stop putting the galaxy in danger every week, you might have a point. As it stands, you, and your crew, regularly lit the entire Alpha Quadrant ablaze with your bullshit, so forgive me, _admiral,_ if I seem to lack patience or gratitude."
You got to love how Captain Shaw is basically saying "Do you realize how much this sh*t looks from the outside perspective? No? Let me enlighten you...*how* are you all still alive and remotely *sane* among this insanity you've put up with for seven years?"
@@HCBailly yeah I’ve seen it a lot - should have a plot summary online. But Starfleet was interfering with the Baku and wanted to relocate them. Then it turned out they weren’t pre-warp so the directive technically didn’t apply. But Picard still felt Starfleet shouldn’t move them. I think the admiral was prepared to talk to command again especially when they find out the Baku and the bad guys are all Baku. But then Ruafo kills the admiral and goes rogue determined to get the healing energy from the rings regardless of whether the Baku were killed or relocated. So anyway, Shaw definitely messed up the summary of that adventure… and technically the stuff in the Devron system never happened and Picard was the only one with a memory of any of that - but he probably wrote very detailed logs which Shaw undoubtedly read. But if he had read it he’d know Insurrection better! Having said that he should also know from the tv show Picard was pretty by the book. He wasn’t a shoot first kinda guy.
The stuff Shaw mentioned was all post-Wolf-359, so his bias against "Locutus" was already formed. When each event went public, I could easily see Shaw wondering why Starfleet would bend over backward for this mass murdering ex-Borg. Shaw, while an asshole, seems to prefer following orders, directives, and regulations, and would weaponize his interpretation of them in a way to confirm his bias against Picard.
Or, they could remember time that you got everyone in your shuttle turned into children, lost the most powerful ship in the fleet to the Ferengi with two old Klingon Birds of Prey, and had to have a temper tantrum to get the ship back.
So, Deacon used the Titan to splinter into the far future, changed his identity to Liam Shaw, started a career in Starfleet and ended up as captain of the Titan... works for me
@@Qardo Patrick was actually *very* professional during Season 1 to the point where he could have mistakenly be labeled as a jerk, especially when the cameras weren't rolling. But that was because he was going through culture shock. See that professional attitude came from his time on the London stage with the Shakespeare theater groups who don't tolerate a lot of goofing around, especially when they're on stage. Coming to America, he was shocked at all the goofing around: he didn't dislike it because he actually is a very nice and funny guy, but this was something completely new to him in the late 1980s (he was already in his 40s). That's why he don't see him do much in the Season 1 blooper reels other than laugh and try to avoid smiling, and apologize for screw up his lines or pointing something out that confused him. It was Jonathan and Brent who got him to loosen up and he allowed him to be "goofy" He reportedly scared the s*it out of everyone during Natasha's memorial scene by loudly singing "The Hills are Alive"
I can see a new Star Trek series with Captain Shaw and Commander Hansen as his # 1😁, a former Borg, Seven of Nine, also known as tertiary adjunct (#3) of Unimatrix 01
There is no way Shaw should know about the time paradox in the final episode of TNG because it technically never happened, I suppose you could say Picard filed a report about it since he did decide to tell the crew but I kind of doubt he did. Writers went too far here to make a point.
with the time paradox bit I have to wonder if Shaw is more than he says, cause with how that episode ended he really shouldn't know about that unless Picard told on himself.
Well, with Beverly accessing one of Picard’s captain’s logs in episode 1, it’s not too far off to say his logs are put into a report for Starfleet after-the-fact, so the Devron incident(s) being made need-to-know might not be so far-fetched.
Really makes me miss those TNG Recuts that ended up being taken down. Upside-down Enterprise, evil selfish Picard, and loud ship-wide broadcasts of bad flute playing
The reference to the time paradox in the Devron system bothers me as the evidence insofar as I interpret it is that whole event was pulled out of Q's ass for Picard's benefit and never actually happened.
I like how they are making Captain Shaw a fun captain to make him more likable for just for the viewers and possibly make a Captain Shaw spin-off show. There's no need, at least for me, I already like him. Seven should be number 1.
Wasn't it Starfleet the one who were breaking the PD on Baku? Pretty sure Adm. Dougherty got the Feds involved in a civil war and allied to the side who used subspace weapons.
Wait, how can Shaw know about the events of All Good Things when at the conclusion of that episode Picard was sent back to the time at the beginning of the episode, and the events never ended up taking place?
Immediately after the voiceover where Picard says that nobody remembers the events, there's the scene where the command crew discuss what he told them about the future while playing poker. He would obviously have also written a full report for Starfleet about Q's latest shenanigans.
The thing with the Baku didn't violate the prime directive and how do they even know about what happened in the Devron system as it never ended up happening.
The two things I disagree with Shaw on are the Ba'ku situation and the Battle of Veridian Three. When it comes to Star Trek: Insurrection, the Prime Directive was already violated when the Federation Council voted to sign on with the Son'a to have the Ba'ku removed. Not to mention, the Son'a were also allies of the Dominion which makes you wonder if the Son'a were playing both sides from the beginning. Without Starfleet intervention, the Son'a would be allowed to collect the metaphasic particles from the planet's rings. If the Son'a had succeeded in their plan, the planet would be unable to support humanoid life. Granted, the Bak'u weren't indigenous to the planet, but they were there before the Federation was. Which means the planet belonged to Ba'ku in every sense. Plus, at the time, the Federation wasn't aware that the Son'a and the Ba'ku were the same race; Unwillingly bringing themselves into the middle of a blood feud. Again, violating the Prime Directive. If anyone is to blame for the Ba'ku incident, it's the Federation because they were tempted by greed during a time of war. True they tried to wipe out the founders with a genetic virus, but stealing particles that make you young at the expense of another group was wrong. Oh, and before I forget, Admiral Doughtery gave the Son'a permission to attack the Enterprise-E which would constitute as an act of treason. A Starfleet Admiral willfully orders the destruction of a Starfleet vessel to cover it all up? It furthers my position that Picard and his crew did the right thing by standing against the Son'a. I will give Doughtery credit since he tried to stop Ru'afo, and died before he could alert Starfleet. Nevertheless, I think Shaw is in the wrong about the Ba'ku. Regarding the Battle of Verdian Three, the Duras Sisters hacked into Geordi's visor so they can steal the Enterprise-D's shield modulation. Granted they should've checked Geordi's visor to see if it was compromised, and I blame the writers for that. Regardless, it was the Lursa and B'eator who caused sufficient damage to the Enterprise-D which forced the crew to abandon the ship via saucer separation. Plus after the separation, the explosion from the drive section hurled the saucer into the planet's gravity and there was no way to keep in orbit. So, in hindsight, the destruction of the Enterprise-D was not the crew's fault. It was the Duras Sisters who did it.
Shaw should've mentioned all the other times Picard violated the Prime Directive, or all the numerous times Picard lost his ship, once a teenager stole a shuttle. How about Picard's own CMO and counselor clears Picard fit for duty. Talk about a conflict of interest.
Ok how could Shaw know about the Devron System one? I thought that was a dream or something concocted by Q. How could Picard and RIker be responsible for THAT one? And the "saucer section hot dropping" was the Duras sisters' faults.
This is how you deconstruct a story while still respecting the source material. Every line of Shaw's criticism is correct, and you see Picard acknowledge this, but then Riker says "those we're the days." Yeah TNG had some real flaws, but man it was fun and those flaws do not really detract from how fun a show that it was.
Did they actually call it a turbolift? Because I'm fairly certain the term "turbolift" is from Star Wars, not Star Trek. Pretty sure that's just an elevator.
It was first referred to a turbolift by name in the original series, a decade before the first Star Wars movie was made. For example, in the 1968 episode "By Any Other Name", Kirk says "Immense beings with a hundred tentacles would have difficulty with the turbolift." That may be the first time it was referred to a turbolift on-camera, I didn't do an exhaustive script search.
@@thumpercomet3856 Probably, there were other instances, but I remember her being in charge of the bridge once and, in Generations, getting the helm. I was reffering to the latter. It was a rookie mistake letting her pilot.
Makes you wonder how Shaw would react to Sisko or Janeway... He'd probably accuse Sisko of starting the Dominion War, or of Janeway wasting time meeting Delta aliens instead of using the Caretaker to get back home.... Its interesting to get the point of view from a "play it safe" captain versus the ones on the edge of the frontier.
Shaw is so jealous of Picard and Riker's fame it's palpable. On top of that, nearly every instinct Shaw had during the season would have sped along the Borg/Changling plot if followed. Great actor? Yes. Interesting character? Yes. Good captain? Not hardly. Officers like him explain how the Borg/Changling plan got so far along in the first place.
The late Titan captain came across as many things, but jealous? Of Riker and Picard? Not on the series that I watched. Shaw, if anything, had a justified contempt for two "Legends" who came aboard his command under false circumstances in order to usurp his command. And he treated with them with the contempt and suspicion their actions deserved. Not everyone in Starfleet genuflects at the temple of the Enterpriser-D command crew. Nor should they. Shaw represented a realistic point of view that some Trekkies won't to just brush away. And as for Liam Shaw not being a good captain, IMHO, that's bullcrap. Thirty-six mission successful missions and medals for valor and distinction said otherwise. This is a man who did not believe in taking unwarranted, unwise risks with the safety of his crew and ship. A man who ordered his insubordinate First Officer to blow the turbolift with himself inside to prevent his ship from being taken. A man who died while getting your aged "heroes" to safety. So the dipshit from Chicago was hardly an "everyday" starship captain. Liam Shaw was, I suspect for many of us, the best part of Picard Season 3. Glad to hear that Stashwick will be coming back if the Legacy spinoff comes to fruition. He's been an exceptional addition to the Trek universe.
@@ronaldlanders519 he's totally jealous. He admitted as much in his review of Seven of Nine. Everything he said about her is true of the Enterprise-D crew. He's far too concerned with them "breaking rules" to not be jealous. It's not his place to judge them, it's the place of Starfleet Command. If he were truly the "rule follower" he claimed, he would accept that reality. But he's not. Deep down, he wants to be them, but he either can't or won't let himself.
@@travispettit9762 Well, we are going to have to strongly disagree on this. Again, I saw no jealousy on Shaw's part where the galactic Lone Ranger and Tonto were concerned. And the late captain did not lean into or admit any such thing when he recommended Seven Of Nine's promotion to the captaincy. If anything, his admiration of and pride in his former First Officer shone through, and that's the mark of a good teacher and captain. I get that you and other Trekkies didn't like Liam Shaw. That's your right. But assigning qualities and actions to him that were not clearly shown on screen is quite another. But maybe all of this wrangling is academic since Shaw/Stashwick is coming back should Paramount Plus greenlight the sequel. I suspect the overwhelming majority of fans are ecstatic about that.
@@ronaldlanders519 "And the late captain did not lean into or admit any such thing when he recommended Seven Of Nine's promotion to the captaincy." Literally everything Shaw said that he admired of Seven--and found worthy to recommend her for promotion--is also true of the TNG crew. I'm not assigning anything to him. I'm comparing his words to Seven against his word and actions toward others.
Hey Shaw, one of those things makes sense for you to know. Maybe two... But why would him and Anise be in a log somewhere? Also, wasn't the Devron thing an alternate timeline that only Picard would know that much about? Edit: Side note, I did not care when the a-hole died.
So none of the writers actually watched Insurrection right? They just incorrectly referenced a very impactful and morally righteous moment in Star Trek history the TNG crew participated in just to make into a stupid joke? Cause that's what I got from that dialogue. They make everything about Star Trek a joke.
So many "i didn't like shaw at first but wow i like him now!" ...eeeeeyeeeaaah. that's what the writers planned for you.. also, yes his acting was good..but any decent actor could've pulled off this bait and switch.. 1. Be condesending and demean your beloved lead characters. 2. Turn-around, agree with show respect and help beloved characters without anymore sass and spite. Pretty easy.
"pretty easy" gotta love the absolute trash-tier takes armchair critics will throw out. If I have to tell you that there's more to Shaw's characterisation than just what was written, then you don't understand what makes a good actor
I'd love to hear the explanation of how Shaw knows about the events in the devron system....events that didn't happen for anyone else besides Picard. I'd also like to know why fans of the show enjoy a character who is just a smug asshole.
Shaw strikes me as what happens when the chief engineer who has been constantly dealing with Captain and Admiral level bullshit finally gets promoted to Captain he is damn straight going to speak his mind.
Actually endearing in a way.
Almost a bit like if Chief O'Brien ended up getting a commission and his own ship.
@@zoidberg444 Most well functioning ship in the entire fleet
Sisko come from yellow, Janeway from blue, Picard from red
Like how Scotty was promoted to “Captain of Engineering” of the new Excelsior? :)
Fun fact: Captain Shaw is humming "Don't you (forget about me)", which is the song his actor sings in the TV show, 12 Monkeys, also led by Terry Matalas.
Did not know that. This programme is the gift that keeps on giving
I was wondering about that. Thanks
The reason he’s humming is funnier … earlier they’d been talking about “facing the music.” Show’s just rubbing it in.
Thanks, knew I recognised the tune!
I also noticed that from this scene, Love all the 12 Monkey references in the season.
Liam Shaw is one of the most relatable and understandable characters on tv, I thought I hated him when he first appeared but now want a tv series about his Titan after this series.
Well he's kind of dead now
@@justinpsychomonkeyjohnson2845 good job on that spoiler.
I am his doppelganger.
Mannn I from the beginning loved shaw
I liked him from the start.... lol, no.
Gotta admit, Shaw is that special type of jerk you can't help but love. Trek needed him!
Outside of maybe that episode of DS9 with the temporal investigations guys talking smack about Kirk's terrible record, we've never had such a refreshing take on the heroes shenanigans! 😆
he's like the meta referencing lower decks character in live action
He's definitely grown on me and the chemistry is great.
He's a regular joe who *knows* how much this stuff should be BS but isn't. He's acting like how a lot of people would react if they were put in a "space fantasy sci-fi action" world.
I can see where he's coming from.
Two legends suddenly are interested in his ship - which had to be immediately suspicious. They then try to deceive him about their intentions, and ultimately steal a shuttle... the saving of which put the Titan-A in real jeopardy against the Shrike.
Yeah, I'd be a bit salty, too.
Theirs ways in universe he could be revived
Had me at "Hot dropped a saucer section, onto a planet."
He’s turned from a pain in the ass into a dry, ironic, funny character.
What irony happened specifically?
He was doing his job. They showed up and lied. His crime was seeing through the bullshit. Oh and a healthy dose of PTSD.
Data: " Ohhh shit! "
That was priceless 😂
It was shit
OK, Trek needed a dialogue like that. Wolf 359 and Jack Crusher aside, I suspect part of Starfleet is puzzled by how the Enterprise crew got reliably in trouble every week for years.
Who do you think assigned them to those missions? If not them, some other crew.
@@ernestnichols5186 Well, but most of those missions were minding their own business, then being controlled by aliens, being sent to another galaxy by demigods, being infected by unknown viruses, etc., rebelling against Starfleet, meeting the Captain's Clone who wants to destroy Earth, crashlanding, having the ship exploded, etc. I wonder how often it happens to other crews.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 well.. if you look at Lower Decks.. Fairly Often it seems xD
@@mertyol The Lower Decks crew is exactly the kind of crew I expect to find trouble every week, but I can believe that, except for Wolf 359, Captain Shaw's service has been uneventful or at least unsurprising. Fighting a battle is not a surprise if you are in war, but having your ship taken over by Wesley Crusher is. 🙂
Go read Red Shirts
I am loving Todd Stashwick. OMG just so awesome.
After a rough start... you sort of like Captain Shaw in the long run
Lol! He's just trying to do his job!
Sorta...like? A trek series with Shaw in the Captains chair would be House MD in space.
What could be better?
@@sakar181 Bad leg and all!
@@sakar181My thoughts exactly.
Refreshing to see someone give Picard the respect he deserves, lol😊
Picard doing the blowing up thing and riker/Picard hand holding was great.
lmao, I've never seen that before now!
WAS THAT REAL?!?!? It’s been a billion years since I saw that episode but I absolutely don’t remember that at all. That is WILD
@@gateauxq4604 not real
@@gateauxq4604 just an incredible outtake!
@@gateauxq4604it’s an outtake, they were always doing stuff like that 😂
"Hot dropped" Love that phrase. :)
A phrase that suggests atmospheric friction from emergency re-entry is so common they have a slang term for it.
His word selection was perfection. I loved it when he said "snog". His reference to the chicken and egg thing was pretty good too. That was the example Picard used with Data to explain the paradox.
Give capt shaw his own series!!!
Stashwick is incredible. Great actor, person and a great role.
CPT Shaw is my spirit animal!
I actually thought the same thing the other day. Love capt Shaw 😂
In all fairness, the Devron anti-time anomaly never happened, the Ba'ku fiasco also involved a corrupt admiral colluding with Dominion allies and the saucer section crash could have been MUCH worse... That being said, Riker did lose a battle against an outdated Bird-of-Prey in a state-of-the-art Galaxy-class, so...
Yeah, Shaw must have forgotten that the Baku had warp technology but abandoned it to live simpler lives. Picard didn't violate the Prime Directive (that time) but did stop a rogue admiral from doing it.
The Son'a were not Dominion allies. The Admiral was trying to harvest metaphaisic radiation to save billions of lives in the dominion war.
And also, the time paradox was Q's doing
Maybe so. Complacency leads to disaster, and the enterprise learned that the hard way. Still, the Duras' won the battle but lost the war. They didn't destroy the enterprise and kill everyone on it, and it got restored into a museum ship.
1:20 Picard's reaction to getting ready to be blown up is absolute class 👌.
not his finest acting. I thought it was an outtake at first
It's an outtake. I just watched the original. I desperately want to find this clip in isolation though
I love Captain Shaw.
“Those were the days.”
Yes they were.
Just like with his character in 12 Monkeys you started off hating him but can't help falling in love with his character
This needs more children screaming while Big D slams across the mountains.
One of the most memorable scenes in all of Trek, and that’s saying something. Shaw was a superb character who provided a distinct perspective on Picard, Riker and the enterprise crew.
I mean...he's got a point there.
and there
@@DGAF_AK87 And there
in his defence, that villager was extremely hot.
And also not green!
Always wished we'd get back to her, somehow.
Picard: "I don't need to be lectured by you. I was out saving the galaxy when you were still in diapers. Besides which, I think the galaxy owes me one"
Kirk: "That's my boy!"
Dude was an ensign survivor of 359 so that aint working here
@@KamepinUA the effect would've been... Catastrophic.
So glad you're not writing Star Trek.
Shaw: "If you'd stop putting the galaxy in danger every week, you might have a point. As it stands, you, and your crew, regularly lit the entire Alpha Quadrant ablaze with your bullshit, so forgive me, _admiral,_ if I seem to lack patience or gratitude."
@@CoralCopperHead Glad you're not writing Star Trek either, jeez
Shaws character arc was simly great. I grew to put him on my top 10 star trek characters of all time. His dry humor was great.
Shaw is my HERO
How is he possibly your hero? He's obnoxious, sounds like a drunk, and is as dumb as a box of nails
"Those were the days" - Picard proudly says.
What? What is this fucking comment?
Or the time you got Starfleet's greatest hero killed when a bridge fell on him.
But is He truly dead?
@@jgvillan01 At this point, probably.
Shaw: "Someone hot dropped the saucer section of the Enterprise D on a planet"
Riker and Picard: "..........."
La Forge: "About that........"
I love that he is humming "Don't You Forget About Me" at the beginning of this scene.
I served in the Navy under a commanding officer who I swear the writers of Picard must have known him too.
I love how all the crew reports of the Enterprise D and E are common knowledge. To everyone.
Great edit. 😂❤
I’m starting to love Captain Shaw.
You got to love how Captain Shaw is basically saying "Do you realize how much this sh*t looks from the outside perspective? No? Let me enlighten you...*how* are you all still alive and remotely *sane* among this insanity you've put up with for seven years?"
Actually Picard was defending the prime directive in INSURRECTION.
I was wondering about that, but couldn't find anything either way, short of rewatching the movie.
@@HCBailly yeah I’ve seen it a lot - should have a plot summary online. But Starfleet was interfering with the Baku and wanted to relocate them. Then it turned out they weren’t pre-warp so the directive technically didn’t apply. But Picard still felt Starfleet shouldn’t move them. I think the admiral was prepared to talk to command again especially when they find out the Baku and the bad guys are all Baku. But then Ruafo kills the admiral and goes rogue determined to get the healing energy from the rings regardless of whether the Baku were killed or relocated. So anyway, Shaw definitely messed up the summary of that adventure… and technically the stuff in the Devron system never happened and Picard was the only one with a memory of any of that - but he probably wrote very detailed logs which Shaw undoubtedly read. But if he had read it he’d know Insurrection better! Having said that he should also know from the tv show Picard was pretty by the book. He wasn’t a shoot first kinda guy.
The stuff Shaw mentioned was all post-Wolf-359, so his bias against "Locutus" was already formed. When each event went public, I could easily see Shaw wondering why Starfleet would bend over backward for this mass murdering ex-Borg. Shaw, while an asshole, seems to prefer following orders, directives, and regulations, and would weaponize his interpretation of them in a way to confirm his bias against Picard.
No, he was not
@@steveleeart Pretty sure Shaw knows ALL of that and is just being a jerk
1:23 XD I never seen that part Picard smiles and waving his hands about.
Shaw mentality jumping for joy just before he gets Shanghaied into a starfleet intelligence operation that might trigger some ptsd.
This edit is amazing. Also loved Shaw, was really sad for the ending of Picard.
1:24 wait that can't be real ? Can it ? It's a blooper right ?
Same thing I was thinking. I don't remember that from the series.
definitely a blooper.
th-cam.com/video/a2QQzquP-3Y/w-d-xo.html there is also this lol
I worship at the temple of Liam Shaw, Captain, USS Titan, Commanding
I love that you've used INtakes for the inserts lol
Or, they could remember time that you got everyone in your shuttle turned into children, lost the most powerful ship in the fleet to the Ferengi with two old Klingon Birds of Prey, and had to have a temper tantrum to get the ship back.
But he got a nice scene with his Number One Dad!
@@rexus3021 Riker’s super proud smile made that episode for me
Shaw is probably one of my favorite Captains ever. Just so salty.
Brilliant thanks.
So, Deacon used the Titan to splinter into the far future, changed his identity to Liam Shaw, started a career in Starfleet and ended up as captain of the Titan... works for me
I'd love to know what Shaw does on Captain Picard Day
Did anyone notice Picard acting goofy b4 the ship blew up in the Devron System?
I think that little snip was a blooper added in. I don't recall ever seeing that scene >.>; oh blast I have watch Season 1 again....
@@Qardo Patrick was actually *very* professional during Season 1 to the point where he could have mistakenly be labeled as a jerk, especially when the cameras weren't rolling. But that was because he was going through culture shock. See that professional attitude came from his time on the London stage with the Shakespeare theater groups who don't tolerate a lot of goofing around, especially when they're on stage. Coming to America, he was shocked at all the goofing around: he didn't dislike it because he actually is a very nice and funny guy, but this was something completely new to him in the late 1980s (he was already in his 40s). That's why he don't see him do much in the Season 1 blooper reels other than laugh and try to avoid smiling, and apologize for screw up his lines or pointing something out that confused him. It was Jonathan and Brent who got him to loosen up and he allowed him to be "goofy"
He reportedly scared the s*it out of everyone during Natasha's memorial scene by loudly singing "The Hills are Alive"
I can see a new Star Trek series with Captain Shaw and Commander Hansen as his # 1😁, a former Borg, Seven of Nine, also known as tertiary adjunct (#3) of Unimatrix 01
What
Why did you say it like that
@@pderham26 like what?
@@willie417 Why did you keep typing out different ways she's been referred to?
@@pderham26 because that's who she is, it represent how far she came , and now she's a star Fleet Commander
@@willie417 No
steals every scene he was in
Ironically, Shaw wouldn't live to see the Enterprise-D saucer section make it's triumphant return.
1:23 lolol
Shaw is definitely one of my favorite characters in Trek. Him along with Spock, Data, Kelvin Kirk, and.... oh yeah.....
KHANNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Correction prime direction didnt apply to the baku
If you hate Shaw, you can always watch him get run over by Rayan Givens in Justified...twice.
He is standingnext to 2 livinglegendary actors who played 2 legendary hero's
Good edits…. Solid all the way lol
There is no way Shaw should know about the time paradox in the final episode of TNG because it technically never happened, I suppose you could say Picard filed a report about it since he did decide to tell the crew but I kind of doubt he did. Writers went too far here to make a point.
with the time paradox bit I have to wonder if Shaw is more than he says, cause with how that episode ended he really shouldn't know about that unless Picard told on himself.
Well, with Beverly accessing one of Picard’s captain’s logs in episode 1, it’s not too far off to say his logs are put into a report for Starfleet after-the-fact, so the Devron incident(s) being made need-to-know might not be so far-fetched.
Yes. I always knew Riker and Picard would end up together.
Anyone see Picards face after the Enterprise blew up LMFAO
Yup it was in the video
Where is stable volume when you need it?
Really makes me miss those TNG Recuts that ended up being taken down. Upside-down Enterprise, evil selfish Picard, and loud ship-wide broadcasts of bad flute playing
The reference to the time paradox in the Devron system bothers me as the evidence insofar as I interpret it is that whole event was pulled out of Q's ass for Picard's benefit and never actually happened.
I like how they are making Captain Shaw a fun captain to make him more likable for just for the viewers and possibly make a Captain Shaw spin-off show. There's no need, at least for me, I already like him. Seven should be number 1.
1:24
One of the few times you see Picard go mad for a second
But really it's just Patrick Stewart letting out the goofy man he actually is inside.
1:23🤣
Why is Picard and no 1 holding hands at the end ?
I like that you used an InTake from Ryan's Edits at 1:23
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Wasn't it Starfleet the one who were breaking the PD on Baku? Pretty sure Adm. Dougherty got the Feds involved in a civil war and allied to the side who used subspace weapons.
Wait, how can Shaw know about the events of All Good Things when at the conclusion of that episode Picard was sent back to the time at the beginning of the episode, and the events never ended up taking place?
Immediately after the voiceover where Picard says that nobody remembers the events, there's the scene where the command crew discuss what he told them about the future while playing poker. He would obviously have also written a full report for Starfleet about Q's latest shenanigans.
Ok but, there's no way Shaw should have even known about the Devron system because it never happened.
maybe they stated that in an official report?
Prime Directive doesn’t apply to Baku which had already achieved warp.
The thing with the Baku didn't violate the prime directive and how do they even know about what happened in the Devron system as it never ended up happening.
Anyone remember why picard and riker held hands at the end of that clip?
I think it's an outtake
what are volume control...
I keep thinking that people mourned Shaw after he went four or five episodes pretty much keeping his mouth shut.
The problem is, he's not wrong.
1:23
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We see Shaw had a boring career, untill he met Picard and Riker, two legacy hereos.
After Wolf 359, he probably wanted a boring career.
I mean he wasn’t wrong
The two things I disagree with Shaw on are the Ba'ku situation and the Battle of Veridian Three. When it comes to Star Trek: Insurrection, the Prime Directive was already violated when the Federation Council voted to sign on with the Son'a to have the Ba'ku removed. Not to mention, the Son'a were also allies of the Dominion which makes you wonder if the Son'a were playing both sides from the beginning. Without Starfleet intervention, the Son'a would be allowed to collect the metaphasic particles from the planet's rings. If the Son'a had succeeded in their plan, the planet would be unable to support humanoid life. Granted, the Bak'u weren't indigenous to the planet, but they were there before the Federation was. Which means the planet belonged to Ba'ku in every sense. Plus, at the time, the Federation wasn't aware that the Son'a and the Ba'ku were the same race; Unwillingly bringing themselves into the middle of a blood feud. Again, violating the Prime Directive. If anyone is to blame for the Ba'ku incident, it's the Federation because they were tempted by greed during a time of war. True they tried to wipe out the founders with a genetic virus, but stealing particles that make you young at the expense of another group was wrong. Oh, and before I forget, Admiral Doughtery gave the Son'a permission to attack the Enterprise-E which would constitute as an act of treason. A Starfleet Admiral willfully orders the destruction of a Starfleet vessel to cover it all up? It furthers my position that Picard and his crew did the right thing by standing against the Son'a. I will give Doughtery credit since he tried to stop Ru'afo, and died before he could alert Starfleet. Nevertheless, I think Shaw is in the wrong about the Ba'ku.
Regarding the Battle of Verdian Three, the Duras Sisters hacked into Geordi's visor so they can steal the Enterprise-D's shield modulation. Granted they should've checked Geordi's visor to see if it was compromised, and I blame the writers for that. Regardless, it was the Lursa and B'eator who caused sufficient damage to the Enterprise-D which forced the crew to abandon the ship via saucer separation. Plus after the separation, the explosion from the drive section hurled the saucer into the planet's gravity and there was no way to keep in orbit. So, in hindsight, the destruction of the Enterprise-D was not the crew's fault. It was the Duras Sisters who did it.
Shaw should've mentioned all the other times Picard violated the Prime Directive, or all the numerous times Picard lost his ship, once a teenager stole a shuttle.
How about Picard's own CMO and counselor clears Picard fit for duty. Talk about a conflict of interest.
Ok how could Shaw know about the Devron System one? I thought that was a dream or something concocted by Q. How could Picard and RIker be responsible for THAT one? And the "saucer section hot dropping" was the Duras sisters' faults.
If Shaw had said that they lost the Enterprise-D to a 20 year old bird of prey.
@@andrewnlarsen Still not their fault
This is how you deconstruct a story while still respecting the source material. Every line of Shaw's criticism is correct, and you see Picard acknowledge this, but then Riker says "those we're the days." Yeah TNG had some real flaws, but man it was fun and those flaws do not really detract from how fun a show that it was.
Deana crashed the enterprise D over the ship running out of chocolate!!!!! Geeze!!!! It was a accident!!! She just got moody!!!
.....I would like to see Shaw do any better....
Any body notice Picard and Riker held hands at the end????? LGBTQ IN the 24 the Century
Pixie dust and all,lol
And look at how Picard is smilling.
And how when the ships about to blow, he pretends he's blowing up with a smile. Lol. This is hilarious.
I don’t remember it so it’s probably a blooper reel we need to see
@@WhisperEve - That's definitely a blooper reel, along with the holding hands bit.
Shaw:…Or!! The time you boys nearly wiped all of humanity by creating a time paradox in the Deveron system
Picard: That was Q!!
Well, it was Q and Past Picard, Present Picard, and Future Picard.
Did they actually call it a turbolift? Because I'm fairly certain the term "turbolift" is from Star Wars, not Star Trek. Pretty sure that's just an elevator.
Nope, Turbolift is a Star Trek term. Honestly can't remember it ever being used on Star Wars.
It's always been turbolift in Star Trek
It was first referred to a turbolift by name in the original series, a decade before the first Star Wars movie was made. For example, in the 1968 episode "By Any Other Name", Kirk says "Immense beings with a hundred tentacles would have difficulty with the turbolift." That may be the first time it was referred to a turbolift on-camera, I didn't do an exhaustive script search.
Or that time, Picard let Troi at the helm.
Which time? He let her have a go twice and she crashed the ship both times. I'm convinced that's what happened to the Titan as well XD.
@@thumpercomet3856 Probably, there were other instances, but I remember her being in charge of the bridge once and, in Generations, getting the helm. I was reffering to the latter. It was a rookie mistake letting her pilot.
Makes you wonder how Shaw would react to Sisko or Janeway... He'd probably accuse Sisko of starting the Dominion War, or of Janeway wasting time meeting Delta aliens instead of using the Caretaker to get back home.... Its interesting to get the point of view from a "play it safe" captain versus the ones on the edge of the frontier.
They did start it by mining the wormhole and blocking the Dominion from going either way through it. That's always been an act of war.
With Shaw instead of Janeway, I wonder if Tuvix would still be alive.
Shaw is so jealous of Picard and Riker's fame it's palpable. On top of that, nearly every instinct Shaw had during the season would have sped along the Borg/Changling plot if followed. Great actor? Yes. Interesting character? Yes. Good captain? Not hardly. Officers like him explain how the Borg/Changling plan got so far along in the first place.
Shaw's the everyday Captain, not the Legendary Captain. Just like how Captain Styles was the ever day Captain in Kirk's time.
The late Titan captain came across as many things, but jealous? Of Riker and Picard? Not on the series that I watched. Shaw, if anything, had a justified contempt for two "Legends" who came aboard his command under false circumstances in order to usurp his command. And he treated with them with the contempt and suspicion their actions deserved. Not everyone in Starfleet genuflects at the temple of the Enterpriser-D command crew. Nor should they. Shaw represented a realistic point of view that some Trekkies won't to just brush away. And as for Liam Shaw not being a good captain, IMHO, that's bullcrap. Thirty-six mission successful missions and medals for valor and distinction said otherwise. This is a man who did not believe in taking unwarranted, unwise risks with the safety of his crew and ship. A man who ordered his insubordinate First Officer to blow the turbolift with himself inside to prevent his ship from being taken. A man who died while getting your aged "heroes" to safety. So the dipshit from Chicago was hardly an "everyday" starship captain. Liam Shaw was, I suspect for many of us, the best part of Picard Season 3. Glad to hear that Stashwick will be coming back if the Legacy spinoff comes to fruition. He's been an exceptional addition to the Trek universe.
@@ronaldlanders519 he's totally jealous. He admitted as much in his review of Seven of Nine. Everything he said about her is true of the Enterprise-D crew. He's far too concerned with them "breaking rules" to not be jealous. It's not his place to judge them, it's the place of Starfleet Command. If he were truly the "rule follower" he claimed, he would accept that reality. But he's not. Deep down, he wants to be them, but he either can't or won't let himself.
@@travispettit9762 Well, we are going to have to strongly disagree on this. Again, I saw no jealousy on Shaw's part where the galactic Lone Ranger and Tonto were concerned. And the late captain did not lean into or admit any such thing when he recommended Seven Of Nine's promotion to the captaincy. If anything, his admiration of and pride in his former First Officer shone through, and that's the mark of a good teacher and captain. I get that you and other Trekkies didn't like Liam Shaw. That's your right. But assigning qualities and actions to him that were not clearly shown on screen is quite another. But maybe all of this wrangling is academic since Shaw/Stashwick is coming back should Paramount Plus greenlight the sequel. I suspect the overwhelming majority of fans are ecstatic about that.
@@ronaldlanders519 "And the late captain did not lean into or admit any such thing when he recommended Seven Of Nine's promotion to the captaincy." Literally everything Shaw said that he admired of Seven--and found worthy to recommend her for promotion--is also true of the TNG crew. I'm not assigning anything to him. I'm comparing his words to Seven against his word and actions toward others.
Hey Shaw, one of those things makes sense for you to know. Maybe two... But why would him and Anise be in a log somewhere? Also, wasn't the Devron thing an alternate timeline that only Picard would know that much about?
Edit: Side note, I did not care when the a-hole died.
So none of the writers actually watched Insurrection right? They just incorrectly referenced a very impactful and morally righteous moment in Star Trek history the TNG crew participated in just to make into a stupid joke? Cause that's what I got from that dialogue. They make everything about Star Trek a joke.
So many "i didn't like shaw at first but wow i like him now!"
...eeeeeyeeeaaah. that's what the writers planned for you.. also, yes his acting was good..but any decent actor could've pulled off this bait and switch..
1. Be condesending and demean your beloved lead characters.
2. Turn-around, agree with show respect and help beloved characters without anymore sass and spite.
Pretty easy.
"pretty easy"
gotta love the absolute trash-tier takes armchair critics will throw out. If I have to tell you that there's more to Shaw's characterisation than just what was written, then you don't understand what makes a good actor
I'd love to hear the explanation of how Shaw knows about the events in the devron system....events that didn't happen for anyone else besides Picard. I'd also like to know why fans of the show enjoy a character who is just a smug asshole.
" I'd also like to know why fans of the show enjoy a character who is just a smug asshole."
Same reason we like you
Easy, Picard created logs of everything that happened, he wrote reports etc. Not hard to imagine someone being able to read them afterwards.
@@michaelfischetti1218 Lower Decks establishes that the logs of the Enterprise are widely distributed due to all the hijinks they got up to.
@2:02 ai shit
No, it's an outtake. These people were utter goofballs on set to the point of driving some directors mad.
Shaw’s a fanboy.
What?
Picard-Rikker hand holding,,so this is a gay channel?
That was jarring....
Why is he such a jerk?