How to Silver Solder - Watch Me Teach! // Paul Brodie's Shop
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I like the format Paul . As a virtual student watching what ever skill , it is more likely that I would learn more looking over the shoulder of a real novice , making all the mistakes anyone would , and listening to your advise , rather than watching you , the expert , saying this is how to do it , with no mistakes to correct . Not all the time , but I bet us lot watching learnt a lot from this video . Thank you .
David, what you said echoes what a lot of other viewers have said. Thank you.
@David Yendoll….well said, agree👍
Great content, great teacher.
@@kenneely7899 Thanks Ken! 😉
I totally agree!
One thing I discovered a while back was using a set of magnifying lenses that I bought at the dollar store. Sometimes we don't even realize that our eyesight is not as wonderful as it was in our youth. Magnification has much improved my brazing and my welding.
So true for everyone but especially useful for beginners if they are to learn quickly.
Man I feel old being 30 just because I cant see well haha Using magnifying glasses is really useful for sure
Good eyesight is so very important. Thanks.
Your eyes can go in a very short period, as little as a very few years. Mine did.
@@paulbrodie Paul I like what I see 👀 ho from #YSW
12:34 I like the honesty there.. "It's acceptable"
Thanks!
Holy cow Paul I didn’t realize how much skill is required to silver solder. In your past videos, you make it look effortless. Didn’t realize what it takes to solder well. Thank you for taking the time to make this, and all the other videos. Much love and respect. I’m greatful for all the talents God has blessed you with🙏🙂 super cool👍
Thanks David. Silver solder can be quite tricky. I've had a lot of practice and I know I make it look easy. That's why I thought it would be be good to bring in Thomas, who was struggling, and use the teacher / student approach. From all the comments, a lot of viewers really enjoyed our new approach, and deemed it worthwhile.
Paul, great job teaching Thomas! YES - this is a helpful format! Nice job, Mitch on the filming!
Thank you Tom.
"The solder goes where the heat is" The best advice I've ever had
And... it's true! Thanks for watching..
In my younger days, I was a combination light equipment/welder mechanic of a mine company in a remote town away from parts houses where we used to repair almost everything by welding, soldering, bracing or silver soldering if there's no available parts. We repaired parts like leaking radiators by soldering, silver soldered pinholes on hydraulic metal lines that rubbed against a metal by fillet a piece of metal over the pinhole and silver solder it or replacing a bad hydraulic line fittings by getting a good fitting and swage one of the metal line then silver soldering it. I've learned that silver soldering metals has to be properly cleaned, like you described and properly fitted (no gap). I've also learned that if the right temperature of the metal to be silver soldered is correct the silver solder just flow nicely. @14.21 is NOT a good example. The temperature of both metals that you are trying to silver solder has to be equal to have a better flow and penetration. I usually heat both metal to the correct temp then touch the silver solder rod and the flame to the work piece. It should flow if its done correctly. In my experienced it helps if you apply flux on the silver solder rod also. It can be done by heating the end of the rod and dipping it in the the flux. BTW Paul, I like the heat sink tool that you made. Thank for sharing.
Thanks for watching and commenting....
in the mid '80s, as a young engineer, I had the privilege of working in a machine shop, being tutored by machinists in their '70s. That knowledge passed on to me transcends anything I can watch on TV or the internet. It's great to see Paul transferring knowledge to the next generation
Thank you.
Would love to see a whole Framebuilding 101 - series!
We did that with the Romax. Frame and fork build. Did you watch it?
Excellent tutorial on silver soldering, quite different than brazing. Thanks for the video!
Glad you liked it!
Always great to watch someone experienced showing how to do things like this. Paul has some of the best videos like this, and of course Mitch does a great job as well. Get well soon Paul.
Thank you. I am getting slowly better.
Thank you Paul for the lesson. And thank you Tomas for letting us watch. It takes a lot of personal strength to let an audience see how you are being corrected by a teacher. You can be proud of your work. Nothing I ever brazed or silver soldered looked as nice as what you did here.
Well said! Thank you Andre..
This was GREAT! I'd love to see you teach brazing and TIG too! I volunteer to be the guinea pig for teaching. 🤠⚒🔥🚲
We have (2) brazing videos, and one Tig welding video. Check them out...
Life, a continual process of learning! Glad he’s going to his mentor! Great work once again! Thank you!
Thank you David!
Hi Paul, Enjoying your videos. Thought at 85 years old I new most everything, but you are proving me wrong. Still work in my shop everyday. Wish you well. Best... Ken B.
Thanks Ken. You are an inspiration. I hope I am still creating in my shop when I am 85!
Brings back memories of my days manufacturing navigational instruments, thanks for posting it Paul.
Thanks Neil.
Thanks for the video, Paul. It's quite satisfying to see that there are people who are still interested in building frames out of real steel and put their heart and soul into it. Better this than all the carbon fiber bikes that get churned out like hamburger patties at a McDonalds.
Thanks. Yes I agree. I like to see people that are keen on building with steel... Warms my heart!
4130 has *ductility.*
It also machines decently, as I have learned in the last few days. Bike trailer is coming along decently. A few stills, no video.
What a great lesson. Paul is being patient and keeping things at a nice level intensity, the student is initially over cautious as many of us are but quickly followed the hints and explanations. Paul I think you are bang on about everyone learning their own particular way of doing things - after the fundamentals are mastered. Cheers from Oz, and no more slipping on the ice, we need you mate!
Thank you Boat Beard!
Thanks Paul. I appreciate all the samples of soldering shown. Very helpful to see what happens when things aren't just perfect. 👍👍😎👍👍
Thank you.
Always great to see you in the shop sharing your valuable knowledge
Thank you.
Thomas is a very lucky fella to benefit from your knowledge. In turn, he becomes the guardian of your knowledge for the next generation to come. I could watch these videos all day.
Thanks John.
Thanks for this format, it‘s just great.
Thank you Christian...
Great video as usual, the only thing I could add is tell him not to hold his breath and learning more about peripheral vision helps too. This applies to all types of welding , cutting and soldering. Filing tips especially on cutting tips makes a huge difference along with a straight orifice to make sure gases are travelling correctly.
Thanks Marty. Thomas was probably a little apprehensive about be filmed, on something he has struggled with. I hold my breath when I am Tig-welding very thin tubing. I know I shouldn't. I tell myself not to, and then I do it anyway... Human nature?
I really enjoy puals teaching style. Great mix of demonstration, hands on, and verbal.
Thanks Ray!
excellent format! thanks guys.
Thanks Peter! 😉
I like this format very much. It is good to watch you as you teach. Hope you recover from your fall quickly and continue to regain your health. The world is a better place with you in it.
Thanks Franklin. My leg is getting better...
"No pressure then..." Well done Thomas, thanks for sharing guys.
Thank you.
Excellent lesson 🙏
Thanks Mac.
When I made a bicycle I tried welding these things on with flux core. It was all I had at the time. Thanks for sharing
Outstanding!
Thanks Matthew!
Imagine what a Honor and happiness having you as a master professor.
Well, that is one way to look at it.. Thanks!
Wow. Absolutely great stuff Paul, thank you. This brought me right back to age 14; being taught to solder and gas weld. Watching that solder wick itself around whatever it was I was working on was about as satisfying as anything at that age! Of course that was only when I got it right, didn’t overheat the part and basically have to start over. I learned all about the cone back then, the differences between soldering and welding and then of course introducing the flame for stainless! I still have my notebook with all my notes and drawings of flame types, 40 years later.
Thanks Glen. That's cool you still have your notes after all of those years. Not everyone does that!
Great video as always. The one thing people often miss here is that the metal follows the heat and you did a great job of pointing that out. Getting that heat around the insert is key and the solder then will flow into the joint.
When I learned how to gas weld we were always told to hold the torch in our palm like a pencil with our palms facing up and ideally the heel of our hand or our forearm resting on something. This gives a great deal more control and range of motion than holding it like a pistol where you are counting on limited wrist movement and movement from your arm neither of which gives you the same fine control.
Thanks Daniel. Yes, you are talking about the finer points of brazing or silver soldering. I didn't think Thomas was holding the solver solder in the best manner, but couldn't think of how to instruct him with a better approach.
Yes, I like it! I've already learned a lot, thanks!
Thanks Bernie! 😉
Love the format!
Thank you.
Paul, I enjoyed this teaching format on this video. It is nice to see the student learning and we can see along with them. This helps speed the leaning curve.
Thanks Carl.
Loved it! Great to watch a master pass on his knowledge.
Thank you.
Yes, this is a useful format, Paul. A lot of the details of the process get fleshed out in the interchange between you and your student. I learned a lot. (You've got guts, Thomas!)
Thank you Frank...
Thanks for the video Paul, happy holidays!
Thank you Heint, same to you.
This video reminded me of my dad teaching me to braze. The patience of the teacher vs. the inexperience of the student. loved it and learned some things that I can work on.
Thanks for sharing!
Paul, your videos are a goldmine of skills. I look anxiously for the next one. I do a lot of silver soldering of synthetic diamond cutting tip to carbide inserts with an induction blazer, now I’m leaning brazing with a torch. Thanks!
Thank you very much!
I like this format. Please keep them coming.
Thank you.
That was useful watching you teach someone. Thanks to Thomas for being the guinea pig
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you all for this video. Very enjoyable and informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As an on-again off-again frame builder, these fundamentals are always very helpful for review and to build from. Thanks Paul!
Thanks MNW. We will have another brazing video in a month or two.
Nice job, Thomas! Hope you feel better, Paul. When it rains, it pours! Great teaching style and I needed it. I have an issue with getting the flow started and I have never tried sanding the SS just before. Makes sense as with forms of welding. Great stuff!
Sanding the solver solder is so simple, but it really does help so very, very much! Try it!
Hi Paul im just caught up with your videos now i injoyed that seeing you as a teacher even though ive learned a lot. I just wish the teacher was like you when I did my welding corse. Good to see your well.
Thank you Mark.
Once more, a great vid. Just inspiring! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Another great video. Glad you are still around mate. Have a great Christmas, from New Zealand
Thanks, you too!
I miss the soldering and brazing videos! Brings me back to the videos that originally led me to your fantastic channel 😁
We haven't taken away the original (2) brazing videos. They are still there, and you can visit them if you desire. Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much for this! I've already learned so much about brazing from you, but bikes I'd like to build in the future are silver brazed lug-fitted ones rather than bronze. This expands my knowledge!
Thanks for watching.
Helmut Clasen, multi ISDT Canadian gold medalist, seems to use silver solder exclusively when building his vintage Hercules and Zundapps. It is a real joy to see the solder flow around a joint properly...I used to make batches of nozzles to apply liquid medicine to suture thread during manufacture. I would silver solder a tiny stainless tube of about 1/16" outside diameter and 1" length to a nozzle body I made from stainless bar stock. I drilled a socket for the tube to sit in and would use a tiny dollop of silver solder paste that had flux already mixed in. I used a micro acetylene torch that made a tiny cone with very low gas pressure. I would put the paste on one side of the tube and would heat the other side, concentrating the heat on the thicker nozzle body. The solder would flow around the tube to the side I was heating, avoiding putting the heat on the tube as much as possible since it was so tiny. I would then finish machining the other end of the nozzle and drilled up to the tubing from the other side to have a nice clean hole... I also used the paste to solder carbide onto steel bar for custom lathe tools.
Tom, thanks for watching and commenting.
This is an interesting process to try and learn on your own. Thank you for sharing your skills knowledge and experience, maybe my jewelry joints will improve with my new knowledge. I appreciate you
Thank you Michael :)
Great stuff Paul, more like this would be very useful.
Thank you Paul.
Good coaching and feedback. Robert is a lucky guy.
Millar, thanks for the coffees! I was showing Thomas... who is Robert?
Very very very interesting. Thanks so much. Several good tips.
Thank you.
Great video. Master passing on the knowledge. One thing I have always followed with any form of brazing or soldering is the solder/braze goes where the flux and the heat goes. Clean fluxing and putting the flux only where you want the joint makes a world of difference.
Thanks Mark. Good comments.
I'd really recommend practicing making some simple jewellery as well. It's a great way to learn temperature control and how to flow solder. Plus you get gifts to give to friends!
Yes, good idea. In my spare time!...
Oh, Yeah. I’ve done some, years ago. One piece - a belt clip - gets daily use.
Like it!!! Excellent class.
Glad you like it!
Nice to see you trucking on. Keep it coming.
Thanks Willem.
Awesome !
Thanks!
@@paulbrodie Cheers man!
@@paulbrodie thank you Paul. your time spent making others happy makes me as such. I commend you and cherish all that you care to share always.
@@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Yes, Cheers! 😉
Great to have you back on the torch Paul!! Hope that the therapy is going well.
Thanks Stuart..
Man, every word is pure knowledge gold.
Thank you very much.
Learned something today. Thanks, Paul.
Thanks Brad.
Super nice video, I love the format.
I Hope you'll feel better soon !!!
Thank you.
Paul, hope you can recover quickly from your ice fall. Hang in there my friend 👍
Thanks Joel. I am getting better!
Free school! Thank you!
I’ve been curious about silver soldering for a long time / thanks for sharing this. I learned a lot.
Thanks Grant.
Thanks guys. It is very instructive to watch someone make every single mistake because you know if I attempted it I would make every single mistake. This winter I want to do the door bottoms on my '54 beetle and I will have an expert give me a tutorial on how to MIG without warping the shit out of everything.
Thanks Don. Yes, having a mentor can be so very helpful.
How fitting, Dad and I were JUST talking about how we need to learn more about soldering and brazing tonight, and then this video pops up on my feed! I kind of like this format, teaching someone how to do something, or do it better than they currently were doing it. It's fun watching a pro like you do stuff Paul, but if rookie tires to do what you are doing based on your tutorial, and makes rookie mistakes, we may not know where we are going wrong. If you are working with a rookie they are apt to make those mistakes and you can show how to correct them. More education that way. Keep up the great videos, I enjoy them and am learning a lot!
Thank you Jacob. Yes, I think this format has some merits, and Thomas has indicated he would be the 'guinea pig" again...
Great format, and I appreciated the frame building 101 instructions
You're welcome. Thanks for watching..
Glade to see you are recovering. I too have tried to teach others to braze, solder and weld with gas. It's hard to teach experience. Grab some scrape and start practicing. When the connections in your brain connect between what your eyes are seeing, the brain understanding what they are seeing and the ability to tell your hands what to do to manipulate the process it will almost instantly become intuitive, but it's hard to explain to someone who has no idea how the process works or what to look for as to what they are seeing.
I try to teach in small steps so it's an incremental process. Thanks for commenting.
Nicely done, I enjoyed the format too
Thank you.
Great video as always Paul. I’ve never done any silver soldering before and my brazing experience is very limited. I’m getting ready to start my Z50R project and I can see this helping me on a few little features. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Po. Good luck with your Z50 project!
Another Great Video, Paul. On a personal note, Keep on fighting the Big C. Lots of people beat it. Thanks for all your teaching methods. I greatly appreciate it. All the BEST to you!
Thank you David. I appreciate your support! 😉
This was a great instructional video that you guy made Paul, I’ll bet the student was feeling the pressure but he did a good job.
Yes Gordon, I think Thomas felt a little pressure, but handled it well.
Great format Paul keep EM coming
Thanks!
Good stuff.
Thanks!
I liked it!
Thank you Davorin!
Great Video! not only the excellent content, but also great video work! Thanks.
Hey Vlad. Good to hear from you! Yes, Mitch is good with a camera :) Stop by sometime.
Very informative, thanks. Why does Thomas have 3 water bottle braze-ons on the top of his top tube?
Nice to see Paul smiling!
Those brazeons are to hold a tank bag I am told...
Great video. Please do more in this format. Thanks
Noted. Thanks Kevin.
I've never silver brazed, I learned from this lesson, thank you 😊 Merry Christmas to You and Mitch 🙏
Same to you! Thanks for watching..
More videos like this would be great
Man. Wow. Just wow. When you watch someone so skilled it inspires us all.
I know you want to build motorcycles but your bike skills are epic. If only I had one of your bikes when I did RAAM.
I like to do both, but I ran out of bicycle building things to do.
Thank you.
I like that format. Be well Paul!🙂
Thanks John.
Nice tutorial Paul. I use sil-brazing on all of my model boilers (unless building out of steel). Typically, I use my supply of Harris Safety-Silv, Rockmount Gemini-G or Silvaloy 45/450 (stockpiled over the last 40 years). For some fittings I prick punch to ensure correct clearance on the joint and then sometimes cut and distribute paillons of "solder" on the joint prior to applying the torch. This is as per old Live Steam and The Model Engineer tutorials on model loco boiler construction. The largest boiler I have sil-brazed is my vertical water tube boiler on my 7-1/2" gauge/1-1/2" scale CliShay logging loco.
Thank you Butzi. Appreciate your comments! 😉
This content format it´s so cool! I like when Paul give us explanations about everything involve. I like stories too!!
Thanks Rafael. Our next video, "The True Story of Brodie Bikes" is full of stories. You might like it. Coming out very soon.
@@paulbrodie you´ve put in words what was into my mind. Cleary, sincerouslly yours.Rafael. Thank you, everybody there!
@@Rafael-xy5ti Thank you too! 😉
Hello Paul, I hope you are not too sore after your fall? Do take it care.
Yes the tutorial approach was very interesting, one could see you have a concise ability enabling you to guide the student. Always interesting to see the technical side.
It would be instructive to have the differences between each process, silver soldering compared to brazing and the strengths of each any why it may be appropriate for a particular application.
Thank you to both you and Mitch for the video.
Regards Kevin.
Kevin, thanks for watching and commenting :)
Thank you very much for this video🙌🏻
It helps a lot to see somebody who is also new to framebuilding getting your advices.
If you ever do another framebuilding 101 class I would be the first on the list 🤩
Best greetings from Austria
Thanks for watching!
I like the use of a heat sink, I'll pinch that idea for my own work, cheers Paul. I hope you're on top of every thing health wise.
Thank you Alan!
Tip distance! I put that tip in my toolbox, thanks Paul
Thanks for watching!
Super stoked on these technique videos. They are really clear and appreciate the extra bits on nuance of the methods. I really wish the cameraman was a bit more on it with using the filter when the torch is working the metals.
Thanks Robert. Mitch (the cameraman...) does a very good job, I think...
@@paulbrodie I don't think he does a bad job. I just was just commenting that I wish he had the filter at the ready a bit more. There were a few times when I hoped to see the flame better and couldn't. Can you do some lug brazing videos?
@@robertkeller2309 It is not easy filming brazing... I have very little experience using lugs. I can't even remember the last time I used lugs. Maybe 30 years ago? I am not an expert at lugs, sorry....
Great!
Thanks!
Interesting video Paul and great Tip's 😁😁👍👍
Thanks Karl.
Sorry to hear you took a fall Paul. Same here. Last week black ice dumped me off my mountain bike. Heavy landing but nothing broken. Take care.
Well, sorry to hear you also fell. Damn ice!
Its a real skill silver brazing the economics of working with an an expensive material but also trying to get the required strength and least finishing afterwards and not being tempted to touch it one more time and ruin it all.
Yes, you are correct...
Paul...great tutorial. When i am installing water bottle bosses i make a ring of solder and preposition it under the fitting..heat it up and it flows like butter on hot toast..
Thank you! If you are making a ring, my first thought is that you are using too much silver solder. I'm pretty sure I use less solder than that. And silver solder, as you know, is not cheap!
This is a really nice format for learning as said by others! I found your videos as I need to replace a dropout on a treasured Alan Richards/Tower cycles frame. Very useful primer to terminology and practices in all your 101 series!
Dropout replacement would be a nice video idea if you get the time. It's a common repair but there's no videos out there 🙏🙏
Replacing dropouts is not something that happens frequently. If a dropout does need replacing it's usually the right side only. Chainstay replacement happens much more in my opinion...Thanks for watching.
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Nice work.
Thank you very much!