I never understood why the gang never sent Sadie to Blackwater to get the loot. She wasn't involved in the robbery so the authorities there don't know her. She could stroll around right under their noses... could have done some Blackwater side missions as Sadie.
Yeah, that's a pretty good point. On that note though, I really hope that they incorporate Sadie in future games somehow. Maybe even give her her own game at some point?
@@georgepaul1613 if she didn't make it back with the money, the gang would have been no worse off than they already were, and with one less mouth to feed. There was no other way they were going to be able to retrieve it. It's either take a chance on Sadie or forget the loot completely. I'd have taken a chance on her.
Ya I really felt that Arthur should have been able to sneak in at least. No real reason for the Pinkertons to spawn on top of you and know where you are. Then the sniper that auto headshots you if you make it past new Austin. Like really R*? Y’all had to cut 50 hours from the game, but made sure to put that in? Like it’s dumb to restrict map size in a game, but to restrict challenges with the map is trying to govern how people play and is just pathetic for a company like them to do
@@paco680 The old Bronte glitch (as i understand it) would allow you to replay the mission while standing in a specific location, then when you came out of the mission, the sniper fire would cease. That's patched, but there is a new variation of it where you essentially just get wanted during the Angelo Bronte mission and then just go to New Austin instead of camp while the mission is still active. The downside of the new one is that there are a lot of things you can't do while in the mission, you have to do it on your first playthrough of the mission (you can't retain things from replays), and if you die before you end the mission, you lose it all and have to start over. There are other ways (buggy method, carrying a carcass) that allow you to block the sniper fire, but nothing that can make it stop completely like that old glitch did....yet.
@@shermutt With an RDR3 storyline taking place a bit before "The Blackwater Massacre," You'd have to play as one of the people who died during it. (I believe Jenny or Mac) Since the game is called "Red Dead Redemption," There'd have to be a way for one of them to get redemption. Maybe such as saving another one's life or something.
@@kieferharmon8094 Yeah, I suppose that could be an interesting setup. I was actually thinking a cool idea for at least one of the sequels (prequels?) could be you playing as Arthur's father. If you notice in the picture of him at his camp (a mugshot where he is being charged with larceny) he is wearing Arthur's hat. It just seems to me there has to be an interesting story in there somewhere. Possibly, involving more of a post-civil war era and maybe even set in (or including) a different part of the country.
@@shermutt That's actually perfect! Because Arthur mentions that his father was a horrible man, so it would be a great storyline for his father to get redemption somehow as well. Otherwise I say, stop going for the past and start a story with Sadie. She's complete badass and she'd be perfect for a RDR3 story
Now that this game has been out for a few years Rockstar should really get rid of the sniper, Everyone has already explored New Austin as John now anyway, Let people have some fun. This is why I miss the old PS1 & 2 days with cheat codes that still let you save the game.
I just started playing RDR2 and I don't get how Rockstar gives you the Legendary animal/fish missions early in the game as Arthur, yet you cant even get all of them until late in the game with John. Rockstar Logic...
Yeah, i don't get that either. The one that makes the least sense is how you can't complete all the challenges with Arthur simply because of 4 measly herbs that only grow in New Austin. I mean, fortunately people have found workarounds to be able to do it anyway, but stuff like that just seems like an oversight on their part.
Michael Millican My theory on this is that R* was thinking of The Legend of… titles as being something the player achieves, as a gamer. But then all of us players see them as John and Arthur’s achievements. It would be such a great gesture if R* changed that to match how people actually play the game and how we see (and love (and live)) the characters.
All mission could actually be done by Arthur Legendary fish ,animal and dinosaurs bones. Cuz the dialogues are really include Arthur’s voice in all mission So we can actually done all the side mission without John
@@selinakhoo8206 Yeah they changed quite a bit from the game late in development to rush it(No doubt Take Two had something to do with this) such as the Prologue and Ambarino, and this was one of those changes.
Hey, no problem! I don't know that TH-camr specifically, but yeah, i hate being strung along, so I'm not going to do that to anyone. Thanks for the kind words. :)
@@shermutt well lets just say he loves to make clickbait videos on Rockstar games and steals other video ideas from people, and when he does make a video about a certain thing he never gets to the point yet bc he loves to milk the time on his videos for money.
@Billie The Aussie Gamer hey cool man, that's really refreshing to hear! I don't want anyone to feel any pressure, plus idk how many more videos I'll even make. I enjoy making them, but I only want to if I feel like I'm covering original stuff that actually adds to the overall game. I have a couple more in the pipeline, but I'm totally just doing them for fun, so not sure when I'll actually get them out. I'll be sure to check you stuff out too!
Never understood why they restricted it when they did record many of lines with Arthur during New Austin and Blackwater. Even Jeremy Gills cutscene is cut, yet there is dialogue with him there. Deborah scene still exist in final version with Arthur, but for split second on the way out can be seen Johns animation.
Oh interesting, I didn't know those. I'm currently working on figuring out a way to get all the legendary fish in ch 2 and I currently have all the NA dinosaur bones, just haven't collected all the easy ones, yet, haha. I'll have to keep an eye out for the animation change then. But yeah, I always thought that the idea for restricting it was to save some new content for the epilogue. If they just let you do everything as Arthur, then the epilogue might seem more boring? Idk. Either way, it gives people like me fun challenges to try to get this stuff anyway, haha.
@@shermutt Thats probably right. They figured out at the last moment that Jack wasnt used as much as John in original because you can get 99% of stuffs with John by the end of the game while with jack is 2 outfits (which oddly was done on same way with John in original. He did wear those outfits in screenshots) and last mission. They did rush this very fast in the last year and left too much stuffs in the game. Game is undercooked. But they couldve gave SnyderCut by returning these things back with Chapter 0. They already did with Scholarship Edition.
Yeah, that's so weird. R* is absolutely insane. I don't understand why they're so obsessed with policing our fun. Other dev teams hear about fun things people do in their games and they patch games to make those fun things easier and more accessible. Not R*. R* hates when people sandbox in their sandbox games. We always find new ways to do the things they try to stop us from doing, but R* just keeps wasting their valuable time and energy to try and make certain we only engage in their own limited idea of entertainment, making SURE we can't make our own fun.
Yeah, it does. However, i did a lot of messing around with it yesterday and sometimes I was able to lose the cops again even after crossing back out of the line. I also may have discovered an easier way to do the whole thing, but it's inconsistent. I'm going to play around with it more and maybe I'll post up another video if I get it worked out better.
Thank you for getting straight to the point. You're an awesome TH-camr/streamer specifically because you *didn't* do all the annoying, clickbaity things that TH-camrs and streamers are known for.
I always love exploring Tall Trees and Great Plains while saving the Reverend since you can’t become wanted. Might try this out soon to actually see the town!
Ah, good tip! I didn't know that one, but I recently discovered that you can do the same thing when you rescue Mary Linton's brother, Jamie. He'll hang out with you and smoke cigars every one in a while. It's pretty funny. 🤣
@@shermutt Jamie is honestly cold blooded, he’ll shoot anyone who fights you lmao. But Swanson is hilarious as he’ll keep making funny noises until he passes out. From then on he’ll be in an eternal sleep until you beat the mission.
The only issue I or should say “we” have from this game is the fact we can’t explore new Austin with Arthur, I mean all these legendary animals in new Austin to get for the trapper can’t be possible because they are in New Austin. They could of at least let us explore as Arthur and made it so that you can explore as long as you don’t get spotted by a lawman then you become wanted for example on the mini map it would show in red a lawman and you just make sure you don’t get spotted by him easy as that so that we may get what we want/need in New Austin as Arthur.
I agree. The invisible sniper feels like kind of week game design in terms of keeping an area off limits. There are still ways to explore down there if you bring something to block the sniper fire (carcass or buggy are the most effective), but they are pretty time consuming. I think the theory behind restricting NA access in the main story was so that there was additional "new" content saved for the epilogue. Still though, not letting Arthur down there down there doesn't really make sense story-wise.
Dang more people need to see this but this could lead to it being patched! I was also hoping to get a appolosa that Arthur can't get but this has been interesting to watch. Thank you for showing this.
Haha, you bet. Yeah, honestly, I think R* may have just given up on patching stuff on here unless it's really OP or cuts into their bottom line. Hopefully this one will stick around for a while because it's fun to play with. And if you mean the Leopard Appaloosa, yeah idk of a way to get that early. I guess you can get Trelawney's horse in ch 4 if meet the right requirements, but i haven't heard anything about the white and black one. Good looking horse too! Shame.
I can't wait to try this out--thanks for this! After playing the game several times, I now just live in chapter 2. I keep finding new items and places and interactions, collected some plants and journal entries in Tall Trees and on the outskirts of Blackwater (by having a very fast horse), but hadn't figured out a safe way to walk around inside the town itself. I hope R* let us keep this one--it'd just be fun to wander around Blackwater a bit and look at things as our man Arthur! (Let us have our fun, Rockstar!)
Awesome, that makes me happy! I hope it works well for you, but feel free to let me know if you have any trouble. I'm actually doing the same thing currently. I've made it a mission to try to do everything I possibly can do during ch 2. So far I've managed to do darn near everything in New Austin using the buggy/carcass methods (including the Elemental Trail Treasure and catch all the legendary fish...videos coming soon). I'm currently working on trying to get the tiger striped mustang (although apparently I'm not the first to think of that one) and I vow to get the Otis Miller chest looted before leaving the chapter! Not sure if you know these, but during both the rev Swanson mission and the first Mary Linton mission with Jamie, you can go down and explore Great Plains/Tall Trees freely (minus Blackwater). They are both great for stress free exploration of the area. I've also heard you can do the same thing with the serial killer on your horse, but I haven't tried that myself. Enjoy!
@@shermutt I didn’t know about exploring during Mary Linton and Rev. Swanson missions! I went to Tall Trees with Charles during the final chapter 2 mission, and I like Charles a whole heckuva lot but he pestered Arthur the entire time about getting back on the right route. Can’t go into Blackwater proper on that mission, either.
@@SPQRKlio Well, I've got good news and bad news there. I did finally manage to open the chest and loot it, but for some reason it won't let me loot the gun, only the pictures. It's really frustrating. I'm hoping that after doing a couple of missions it will work, but I have my doubts. So, either my game is coincidentally glitching out on the one thing I've tried to do more than anything, or they've programmed it so you just can't get the gun that early. If all else fails, I might restart a new game and just try it on that too see.
@@shermutt back when the game launched and the new austin glitch existed you could use it as I had it with Arthur. Did everything you could do back in chapter 4. Only thing was once I finished the Epilogue I didn't have shit left for John to do lol. Also Arthur writes and draws way better than John does. Since all that was in the game, I'm assuming at one point in development it was supposed to be totally open but for some reason they changed it.
Idk why Rockstar won’t let us just go all over the map as Arthur. I finished this game once, and whenever I see the sunrise for the last time, I start the game over. I don’t like playing as John, and I don’t like his story, and I just don’t like John. Thanks for the video.
you know, I have visited West Elizabeth without any cops spawning during the very first Beau Grey mission in chapter 3. when the teen romantic music is in the background. the one in which you have to give his letter to Penelope. it was nice to reveal the map of the WE region by simply riding on your horse. but once you get inside New Austin, you are dead. invisible snipers kill you instantly.
Filling all of great plains with insta kill cops and new Austin with an insta kill sniper is probably the worst decision in this otherwise amazing game. All they needed to do was just have you permanently wanted in blackwater and maybe have a few regular police wandering around great plains, new Austin should be completely open to explore once you get through all that. I really don't yet why they did that too, armadillo's saloon owner literally has black hair to signify that hes younger, and the missions where you catch fish with that guy near rio bravo has voicelines for Arthur.
If you’re a Rockstar employee, go fix other problems such as when gang members keep saying “you’re gonna catch a cold” even if you have a goddang fur coat on. And we’d like to take off the off-hand holster and take out Arthur’s shirt and buy Navy Revolver. Support your fans!!!
I got lucky on my 5th playthough...came across one of the ladies who's horse had dropped dead asking for a ride to Emerald Ranch, only her horse wasn't dead but just standing there..It was a Missouri Fox Trotter. Never switched saddles so fast in my life lol.
Ooh, nice! I've personally never had that happen myself, but this is also only my 2nd playthrough. Supposedly, if you find that encounter, you can run away and run back and sometimes the horse will respawn alive. I guess you can keep doing that until it works, however I've never tested this myself, so use at your own risk.
I got it through the Arcadia for Amateurs mission. There is literally a SDP MFT he wants to take a photo off, I just skipped the cutscene and ran straight for it, found it and for some reason couldn't mount it so I jumped on it and managed to tame it, unfortunately I hopped off and couldn't get on it again, I had to jump on it from my horse again, go back to the stable, saddle it up and boom it was mine.
Pro: Arthur gets to enter Blackwater! Con: Blackwater’s effectively a ghost town & you can’t leave. Bro you can get the Red Arabian by going north east of Lake Owanjila and taming it just like the white Arabian.
Yeah, unfortunately they chose not to really open up the town until the epilogue. And yeah, I know about the red Arabian, but it's stats are not quite as good as the white and black. Same with the warped brindle. I was hoping to get the rose gray Arabian in blackwater, but just like everything else, it doesn't even show up until the epilogue, unfortunately.
I think you can do it cause bounty hunters won't be allowed into Blackwater because of the lockdown. Once you're inside and not caught by the police, you are fine.
I did the same thing as long as you don't go near the money at black water. Which located near the bank and workers camp .a wagon with crates and the chest is below the wagon surface. You can travel anywhere without causing total lockdown and massive police and Pinkerton and snipers presence.
That's awesome shermutt and you're gonna have lots of fun. Even as Arthur morgan you can encounter Famous Brutus Grizzly. But I used him to ambush the bounty hunters whom where chasing me. Plus enjoy Otis miller treasure and others as well. The black flower painting and native American necklace is great add and from RD1 . ENJOY my friend. Happy hunting.
@@michaelmiller9938 oh wait, hold up. You're talking about New Austin stuff. Are you saying that you were able to get into New Austin by doing this, or am I misunderstanding? If so, I've definitely never been able to do that (without using a buggy or carcass over my shoulder to block sniper fire). Any more details you can provide would be great! Thanks.
Shermutt also big game hunting and you can cross the water get so drunk at Mexico border and you end up in Mexico. At the devil's cave you close to wall get so drunk it spawns you out the map and can hunt multiple animal's where snow meets the desert.
Well with the bounty from Strawberry on the back of my horse, i could manage to visit some of the red area near blackwater and some of new austin without triggering the wanted or the bounty hunters spawning
This glitch is awesome! I had no idea about it until I saw it a few days ago and decided to mess with it. Had zero luck, did about 15-20 tries and since one of your tips said you had more success with going out and back in I decided to go for that strategy as the chase was already happening but I still had the cops together, in a tight group, after me so I went out and back in and then stuck to the borders until I reached the pier and somehow lost them and just the guy on the pier spawned but never saw me. So it actually worked. And wierdly, I was going clockwise. I would say it definitely works and still needs more testing. But to me some things are mandatory for it to happen: - always have the map set to "Expanded"; - gather as much cops as you can, run throughout town a lot before going north; - fast horse and have a good distance on them during the chase; - if it doesn't work during the first few tries I suggest crossing the border to Great Plains and coming back, since that was the only thing that worked for me. Also, at nighttime Pinkertons started spawning in town which was weird to me so my guess is either the game resets at some point, I got too close to the borders or just the glitch works for a limited time. If you can check the video for me and see if I am doing it right or wrong that would be lovely: th-cam.com/video/PXs1YrF7U0E/w-d-xo.html Thank you! 🙏
AWESOME!! I just watched your video and you did a great job! Thanks for taking up the torch on this one. It has some real promise, butI just can't get a consistent enough/better method together to make another video about it. I've messed with it a whole bunch over the years (I play pretty sporadically) and have had success doing it a few different ways. Most recently, I had it work by having the cops in Blackwater kill me, respawning back in Strawberry, then going back dawn with another lawman in tow. When I got back into blackwater, only a very small amount of lawmen spawned and were easy to lose (similar to how they behave after you get the glitch to work) and the town was clear! I thought "wow, this method certainly has potential and would be much easier for other people!" But unfortunately, I couldn't replicate the results. Half the time I would just spawn back at horseshoe overlook, and the times that I did spawn in Strawberry, it just didn't work the same way. I've also had it work by just charging back through the Pinkertons in Great Plains right after dying in Blackwater and being able to lose them all easily again too. Again though, not consistent enough. I only could get it to work that once. I think there might be something to the dying then going back method, but I can't figure out exactly what the conditions have to be for it to trigger the right way. Maybe you could play with that and figure something out? I like the expanded map tip. I never change mine, so that never occurred to me that it could have anything to do with the success. Not many people that have tried my method have reported success, so maybe that's why? Again, I'll be sure to comment on your video as well, but thanks for all the great data!
@@shermutt honestly I have no idea why the game sends you back to Strawberry as it happened to me as well but Horseshoe Overlook is something else! lol I think the whole glitch is about confusing the game after managing to lose the wanted level since it can't spawn the Pinkertons on you because you're still inside the borders but at the same time having the expanded map prevents it from spawning them right next to you (as it usually does since it's the same cop system as the one used in GTA), plus of course the already huge amount of lawmen spawned. As for the dying and going immediately back to Blackwater maybe it delays the Pinkertons since you have already died once and the game doesn't expect you to cross the river and get to town that fast. That also proves what you say in the video that "you don't really need the Strawberry lawmen chasing you", as long as you can sneak into town unseen, which can be done by going around the Upper Montana River coming from the northeast. P.S. Btw I was about to give up and the very last try made the difference for me so I am pretty happy to have managed to pull it off! 🙂
I think Rockstar decided to just nerf this part of the map rather than fix every way of glitching into it. I was able to ride to Blackwater with the serial killer on my horse but none of the Blackwater plants were available. I rode all the way to the New Austin border, then the sniper started shooting at me. Never saw a posse though.
Ahh, cool to hear that it let's you get in there with the serial killer. I didn't even think to try that. Thanks! As far as plants go though, prairie poppy is really the only plant you can only get in great plains. You could either use this glitch to get it, or you could just kite the strawberry police in the and pick some while they are searching for you. Or if you really don't give a crap, and want to do it the fastest way, you can just run in, pick some quickly, and try to run out before getting wrecked by the pinkertons... I think i went with option 3 when I did it, haha.
For fast horses, I just got the Perfect Horse mod. It gives any horse you ride with maxed speed, acceleration, health, stamina, and also elite handling lol. Perfect for when you want to ride a Mustang but hate the poor stats.
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Still ticks me off that Rockstar patched the Angelo Bronte method... I managed to get the Legend of the East outfit before it got patched, but a few months ago my PS4 harddrive became corrupted and I lost all of my saved data, now I'm replaying the game and trying to complete all of the challenges and Herbalist 9 is really throwin' me for a loop. I know the Saint Denis carriage trick works, but uugghh it used to be so much cooler to just free roam without worrying about the sniper. And yet bugs and glitches that actually negatively affect the game still haven't been patched to this day. Thanks R*...
I think you still can do the Angelo Bronte method, but only while on the mission, before going back to the Bronte mansion with John after escaping from the cementery, you can't do it while on free roam after replaying the mission anymore.
the single player game was good. red dead online only teased me of more better missions and what I got was grief when random players just keep killing you. lots of cheaters too, 4 players possies would spawn right next to me and would keep killing me over and over untill I had to exit. I like playing call of duty moder warfare much more... no grief...just fun times
I have never played to that point. Watching my hero suffer and die miserably over hours or even days of playtime is not my idea of a good gaming experience. I still have the save game from when that doctor told me I've got to die, never played further. I've got another save game and will stay forever in chapter 4, right before those Bronte missions. I really can't stand the obsession with suffer porn people have nowadays.
Honestly there should be a free roam mode where you can explore the whole map without wanted levels. Maybe even allow you to use different characters or create your own.
Hey, thanks. I keep meaning to, but just haven't gotten around to it. I do have a few that I still want to make that I feel like would actually contribute, but I just don't want to get into the habit of making them just for the sake of it, if you know what I mean. But I really appreciate the feedback and I'll try to get more out. :)
What’s funny is one of the story missions (where u gotta save Sean) start just near Blackwater. While replaying RDR2 I entered did not even enter the town but immediately got cops on my tail trying to kill me.
Fantastic (I've done it all to 100%) but this vid is soooo damn helpful for others wanting to go there earlier than normally allowed. You make great vids, I had to sub.
@@frog9757 no, you get shot if you try to get to New Austin... Great way to explore Blackwater I've found is if in Chapter2 - get the serial killer man called Edmund Lowry, hogtie and put him on your horse - instead of taking him to the sheriff of valentine you can enter Blackwater with no lawmen or Pinkerton's shooting you. It works 100% as of April 2023.
As of October 28, 2021, this does not work anymore. Lawmen don’t despawn after losing them while staying within the borders of Blackwater. Looks like Rockstar didn’t listen and patched it. :\
Thanks for the info, I'll check it when I get a chance and update the title if need be. Keep in mind though, it's not a very solid method and the attempt in this video went better than average. I'd say I can only get it to work maybe 50% of the time. I'm still not sure exactly what causes it to work or not, but I have a suspicion that it only works if you get close enough to the border (sometimes even if you cross it). In other words, I've found I have the least success when I stay well within the border. Also, last I tried (maybe 3 months ago), I had more success going counter clockwise instead of clockwise and actually going around that church/graveyard. I would try to gather all the cops in that big area on that north side of town, then just lose them all at once. It's weird, once you turn the corner of that fence around the cemetery, they all start "searching" when they are clearly still within view of you. So, honestly, it's got me a bit stumped. I've been wanting to get it more perfected and re-release a more reliable method, but I just can't seem to work it out. Feel free to play around with it, and if you figure something out, please let me know. Thanks!
I know a good way to get the rose gray Arabian horse in chapter 4. Use the Angelo Bronte a man of honor mission, have autosaving enabled, use the cheats you want and spawn in a rose gray Arabian via cheats. Finish the mission, it'll ask you if you wanna autosave, hit yes, load the save file, save again then close the game so you can get achievements/trophies
I remember a few weeks after the game came out I rode right up against the hill heading into new Austin around ch 3 and made it as Arthur I wish i still had the clip
I actually snuck in by finding a boat in Lemoyne and just paddling into the dock areas and I got in via the beach and nobody bothered me. You can’t do anything there though.
“I don’t care if you subscribe or like”. You sir, have gained a follower. Just for that, hate when mfs always say “make sure to gut that like and subscribe button” a thousand times.
I had £180 bounty in West Elizabeth and I got the tip to hold up the Stagecoach down by Blackwater I didn’t read the tip I went down next to black water to try and activate some bounty hunters to stop the Stagecoach mission from disappearing I slowly edged my way intoBlackwater state and I was running around the land I’ve got sniped Entering new Austin but I was running around free it was awesome
@Shermutt - Thanks for your content. You should keep doing these. 👍 Saw where you guys had a discussion about RDR3 ideas. I don't think people are ready to let go of Arthur. My idea would be to reveal that his meeting with the time traveler (Sinclair?) was more significant than anyone thought. Arthur (Maybe with the help of Sinclair unlocking the mystery of time travel) can make right everything that went wrong... ("Final Redemption?") save Jenny, Davey, Hosea, Kieran, Lenny and whoever else he wants; He could avoid Tuberculosis, deal with Micah in a more satisfying way, and Marry Sadie. 😎👍 The way RDR2 played out at the end could turn out to be what Arthur saw when using the Strange Carvings Mystery, and that was Francis Sinclair's payment to him for helping him find the carvings? That's what I would want. We all love a happy ending, because we rarely get them in life.
Wow, I love that idea! I worry it might seem too sci-fi for most RDR fans, but I'd personally be 100% on board with that. I like what you said about happy endings too. I agree. Real life can be plenty depressing enough on its own. I feel like stories are meant to inspire people and give them hope. Anyway, thanks for the comment! I do enjoy doing these, but I haven't felt like I've had time lately to devote to putting together some proper videos. I have a bunch of saved footage from things I've discovered (for instance, how to do the elemental trail treasure map in ch 2), but I just can't seem to get around to making them into some decent videos. Thank you for the encouragement though. It definitely helps. :)
Do you know how to get free horses from the stable in the beginning of the game or when ever you want ? If not this is how get a wagon gor to stable move half way in shoot you gun to get wanted level and the stable doors will try closeing get off the wagon pick a horse feed it then leave the stable and call the horse and it will come out and you have yourself a horse.
Yeah, I do know about that trick, Actually, I used it to get the Rose Gray Arabian in my first playthrough. I was hoping to use it to get one early in Blackwater, but alas, the stables just don't have them and aren't even open. That is a solid glitch though. Hopefully they don't patch it.
Genius. I tried to explore blackwater today and the only way I could do it was by turning on the unlimited dead eye cheat. Explored the town in dead eye while shooting down 100s of policemen along the way.
Yeah, kind of. The lawmen will respawn, but I've been able to make it work again without going all the way back out of Great Plains. Honestly, I have a feeling that you can do this in the first place without having a lawman follow you from outside Great Plains, but I haven't been able to make it work yet, so idk. I have been able to make it work again that way after getting killed by the Blackwater PD, but never from a completely dry run. There's something there that hopefully someone smarter than me can work out better, because I still can't completely understand it.
let me get this straight, do i have to make an authority follow me to black water and have to outrun the pinkertons without leaving black water? (I'm sorry for the question, I'm a gringo and I don't know much about English)
Not the pinkertons, but the blackwater police, yes. It can be tricky, and the run I did in this video went better than they normally do, but that's the general idea. I've actually had it work before when I crossed the border then went back in, but I'm not sure of there's a limit and how far that is.
Not 100% sure, but I think no. I feel like I tested that, and the cops were all still there upon reloading the save. However, you can sleep in the empty tents in the workers camp, so maybe saving from there would be different. Probably not, but worth a shot.
@@shermutt you can also save in new austin because when i went to guarma I kept going into sniper zone in new austin by accident and saved my game and after reaching guarma I loaded the old one and I was in new austin but after you move a few seconds and the sniper will kill you
After I did this glitch it allowed me to set a camp outside blackwater as arthur and when I did it got rid of spawing Pinkerton which allowed me to use the trapper in tall tress so cool
@@RO6UK oh really?! That's awesome!! I had no idea! You should make a video about it. That's a pretty handy glitch! Also, there's a better way of doing this glitch. Essentially you just approach from the shore without doing the cop thing, and get the blackwater cops to chase you. Then you head up by the river and try to lose them, then re-enter the town before wanted level goes all the way down. (I think.) I saw another TH-camr do this along with a glitch on how to enter/loot the general store. Kind of makes my way obsolete.
I can confirm it's not patched. Just very difficult to pull off! It took me about 15 tries but I finally manage to do it. If what you do isn't working I suggest getting them in a tight group lure them to church like shown in the video but cross the border and get right back in it. See if that works for you.
There is another glitch you can use to roam blackwater with arthur without tons of pinkertons on your tail. Just tried it on 9 april 2022 and it works. In shady belle chapter, there will be a mission when you have to save tilly from the foreman gang in Radley House near rhodes (mission : "no, no and thrice no"). The mission will be marked with MB (mary beth will first converse with arthur & ms. Grimshaw will suddenly intervene to inform about tilly). When arthur & ms. Grimshaw mount the coach, instead of going for the foreman's house, go to blackwater (its a long ride, i know. Just follow the railtracks). No pinkertons will appear relentlessly once you enter the great plains. But tons of pinkertons & lawmen will always be there in blackwater. I let myself get spotted by a lawman in blackwater & ran to great plain to test if this will trigger pinkertons to pop-up as usual, & apparently they were not appearing. So i managed to shake off my pursuer and everything went well. I managed to catch legendary rock bass fish at aurora basin, inspect circus wreckage near manzanita post and wickiup Unfortunately, there are few downsides : 1. There are no pickable plants in blackwater, great plains etc. Apparently the glitch caused all pickable plants to vanish. But animals still appear and killable as usual. 2. The invisible sniper will still be active & triggered once arthur entering new austin Note : I assume the glitches to enter blackwater safely can be exploited on any missions where arthur is required to ride with other characters (drunk reverend, serial killer, or other gang members) to a certain places from another. This will keep arthur registered as "within a mission" thus stopping pinkertons from super-spawning, when entering blackwater/great plain area.
I hate that rockstar had plans to arthur do to people finding voice lines of arthur talking to sick people in armadillo but then at the last minute remembered that they didn't have a lot of content for so they scrapped arthur being able to travel to new Austin. But in the universe it doesn't make that much sense since they didn't know that john was with them they could've just sent john to get in and out since when agent moron shows up at clemens point he asks who john even was. Which reveals they didn't know john or what he looked like.
If in chapter 2 - You can get to wander round Blackwater (only, no new Austin) by having serial killer Edmund Lowry on your horse (as opposed to be taking him back to valentine sheriff). It works 100% (April 2023 - PS4). It's a good way to get "Legendary Rock Bass" at the "Aurora Basin" lake. Unfortunately it's no good for the Herbalist Challenge plants, and if you try to cross the bridge into New Austin the sniper will get you instantly. Happy 'half' hunting Cowboys n' Cowgals!!! Yeeeehaaaaw!!!
Hey thanks. Yeah, it bothers me when TH-camrs basically beg people to support their stuff. I think that decision should be entirely up to the viewer. But also, I just don't know how much content I plan on making. I don't want to get into the habit of just making videos for the sake of it. If I feel like I have something useful to add that hasn't been covered by someone else, I'll try to make one. I have a couple other ideas in the pipe for other stuff, but I have other stuff going on in life, so I'm just not that sure of when that'll be. Anyway, that aside, glad you liked it! 😊
If it's something they seem at the tailor, they aren't open to buy anything and I suck at doing the door breaching glitch to try to get inside and see if it lets you shop if you DO get in, BUT... I'm case you didn't know, you can actually buy any of those area specific outfit pieces on the companion app and have it delivered in game immediately. I learned that the hard way after spending hours attempting to shop at the tumbleweed general store as Arthur Ave being so proud of myself for actually accomplishing it, only to find out that I could have just bought everything they sell there on the app easily. 🤣 Edit: all that said, I'm not 100% sure if that outfit is even available for sale until the epilogue, but it's definitely worth checking out.
I never understood why the gang never sent Sadie to Blackwater to get the loot. She wasn't involved in the robbery so the authorities there don't know her. She could stroll around right under their noses... could have done some Blackwater side missions as Sadie.
Yeah, that's a pretty good point. On that note though, I really hope that they incorporate Sadie in future games somehow. Maybe even give her her own game at some point?
They barely knew who she was they only knew her since the first mission where Micah tries to kill her
They barely knew her and they couldnt have trust her
Bro you don’t trust her with that. She either steals it and runs, or she gets caught and they lose it all
@@georgepaul1613 if she didn't make it back with the money, the gang would have been no worse off than they already were, and with one less mouth to feed. There was no other way they were going to be able to retrieve it. It's either take a chance on Sadie or forget the loot completely. I'd have taken a chance on her.
I wish they let us just explore the whole map as Arthur. :(
but they had to rob the boat
You can on PC and v1.00 on console.
They were gonna let you explore new Austin. Arthur has dialogue for when he talks to the sick people in armadillo
Ya I really felt that Arthur should have been able to sneak in at least. No real reason for the Pinkertons to spawn on top of you and know where you are. Then the sniper that auto headshots you if you make it past new Austin. Like really R*? Y’all had to cut 50 hours from the game, but made sure to put that in? Like it’s dumb to restrict map size in a game, but to restrict challenges with the map is trying to govern how people play and is just pathetic for a company like them to do
@@Dan-et2gj yea, hopefully gta 6 is better.
Now we just need to figure out how to stop the Invisible Sniper of New Austin 🤣
I wish there are someone that skilled enough to mod that tbh
@@kingf6766 there is
I think it disables with the Angelo Bronte mission glitch...or this worked in the older versions?
@@paco680 The old Bronte glitch (as i understand it) would allow you to replay the mission while standing in a specific location, then when you came out of the mission, the sniper fire would cease. That's patched, but there is a new variation of it where you essentially just get wanted during the Angelo Bronte mission and then just go to New Austin instead of camp while the mission is still active.
The downside of the new one is that there are a lot of things you can't do while in the mission, you have to do it on your first playthrough of the mission (you can't retain things from replays), and if you die before you end the mission, you lose it all and have to start over.
There are other ways (buggy method, carrying a carcass) that allow you to block the sniper fire, but nothing that can make it stop completely like that old glitch did....yet.
The infamous assassin sniper
They should release a DLC of the story before the blackwater incident where you have atleast 6 missions leading up to the incident with the gang
That would be awesome! Hopefully potential RDR3 content??
@@shermutt With an RDR3 storyline taking place a bit before "The Blackwater Massacre," You'd have to play as one of the people who died during it. (I believe Jenny or Mac) Since the game is called "Red Dead Redemption," There'd have to be a way for one of them to get redemption. Maybe such as saving another one's life or something.
@@kieferharmon8094 Yeah, I suppose that could be an interesting setup.
I was actually thinking a cool idea for at least one of the sequels (prequels?) could be you playing as Arthur's father. If you notice in the picture of him at his camp (a mugshot where he is being charged with larceny) he is wearing Arthur's hat.
It just seems to me there has to be an interesting story in there somewhere. Possibly, involving more of a post-civil war era and maybe even set in (or including) a different part of the country.
@@shermutt That's actually perfect! Because Arthur mentions that his father was a horrible man, so it would be a great storyline for his father to get redemption somehow as well. Otherwise I say, stop going for the past and start a story with Sadie. She's complete badass and she'd be perfect for a RDR3 story
Kiefer Harmon playing as sadie adler in Mexico would be awesome, hopefully this is the future of rdr3
Now that this game has been out for a few years Rockstar should really get rid of the sniper, Everyone has already explored New Austin as John now anyway, Let people have some fun. This is why I miss the old PS1 & 2 days with cheat codes that still let you save the game.
Good the know that the Nature Boi is a fan of Red Dead Redemption! Whoooo..
Woooooo!
I just started playing RDR2 and I don't get how Rockstar gives you the Legendary animal/fish missions early in the game as Arthur, yet you cant even get all of them until late in the game with John. Rockstar Logic...
Yeah, i don't get that either. The one that makes the least sense is how you can't complete all the challenges with Arthur simply because of 4 measly herbs that only grow in New Austin. I mean, fortunately people have found workarounds to be able to do it anyway, but stuff like that just seems like an oversight on their part.
@@shermutt I was thinking exactly the same thing. Arthur should be the legend of the east and John the west.
Michael Millican My theory on this is that R* was thinking of The Legend of… titles as being something the player achieves, as a gamer. But then all of us players see them as John and Arthur’s achievements. It would be such a great gesture if R* changed that to match how people actually play the game and how we see (and love (and live)) the characters.
All mission could actually be done by Arthur
Legendary fish ,animal and dinosaurs bones.
Cuz the dialogues are really include Arthur’s voice in all mission
So we can actually done all the side mission without John
@@selinakhoo8206 Yeah they changed quite a bit from the game late in development to rush it(No doubt Take Two had something to do with this) such as the Prologue and Ambarino, and this was one of those changes.
Shermutt: "We just want to have fun!"
RockStar: "We'll soon put a stop to that!"
Finally someone that gets to the point unlike MBFTW. Thank you for the very helpful video
Hey, no problem! I don't know that TH-camr specifically, but yeah, i hate being strung along, so I'm not going to do that to anyone. Thanks for the kind words. :)
@@shermutt well lets just say he loves to make clickbait videos on Rockstar games and steals other video ideas from people, and when he does make a video about a certain thing he never gets to the point yet bc he loves to milk the time on his videos for money.
@Billie The Aussie Gamer hey cool man, that's really refreshing to hear! I don't want anyone to feel any pressure, plus idk how many more videos I'll even make. I enjoy making them, but I only want to if I feel like I'm covering original stuff that actually adds to the overall game. I have a couple more in the pipeline, but I'm totally just doing them for fun, so not sure when I'll actually get them out. I'll be sure to check you stuff out too!
Mrboss is a liar and a fraud, never trust him
They patched it 😂
People love this game so much they will do anything to keep the party going 😂🙏
Never understood why they restricted it when they did record many of lines with Arthur during New Austin and Blackwater.
Even Jeremy Gills cutscene is cut, yet there is dialogue with him there.
Deborah scene still exist in final version with Arthur, but for split second on the way out can be seen Johns animation.
Oh interesting, I didn't know those. I'm currently working on figuring out a way to get all the legendary fish in ch 2 and I currently have all the NA dinosaur bones, just haven't collected all the easy ones, yet, haha. I'll have to keep an eye out for the animation change then.
But yeah, I always thought that the idea for restricting it was to save some new content for the epilogue. If they just let you do everything as Arthur, then the epilogue might seem more boring? Idk.
Either way, it gives people like me fun challenges to try to get this stuff anyway, haha.
@@shermutt Thats probably right.
They figured out at the last moment that Jack wasnt used as much as John in original because you can get 99% of stuffs with John by the end of the game while with jack is 2 outfits (which oddly was done on same way with John in original. He did wear those outfits in screenshots) and last mission.
They did rush this very fast in the last year and left too much stuffs in the game.
Game is undercooked.
But they couldve gave SnyderCut by returning these things back with Chapter 0.
They already did with Scholarship Edition.
@@shermutt SnyderCut in DLC
@@xXSilentAgent47Xx scholaship edition?
Yeah, that's so weird. R* is absolutely insane. I don't understand why they're so obsessed with policing our fun. Other dev teams hear about fun things people do in their games and they patch games to make those fun things easier and more accessible. Not R*. R* hates when people sandbox in their sandbox games. We always find new ways to do the things they try to stop us from doing, but R* just keeps wasting their valuable time and energy to try and make certain we only engage in their own limited idea of entertainment, making SURE we can't make our own fun.
Well you get in and can stay there, but as soon as you go outside of the dotted line, all hell breakes loose again.
Yeah, it does. However, i did a lot of messing around with it yesterday and sometimes I was able to lose the cops again even after crossing back out of the line. I also may have discovered an easier way to do the whole thing, but it's inconsistent. I'm going to play around with it more and maybe I'll post up another video if I get it worked out better.
It's like Hotel California!
@@someguyik yeh You can check out any time you like but you can never leave...😁😁
why do i lowkey want this guy to continue making vids lol, he cool asf
He's just chill
Thank you for getting straight to the point. You're an awesome TH-camr/streamer specifically because you *didn't* do all the annoying, clickbaity things that TH-camrs and streamers are known for.
Not straight 😅
"we got a hero here" i wheezed
I always love exploring Tall Trees and Great Plains while saving the Reverend since you can’t become wanted.
Might try this out soon to actually see the town!
Ah, good tip! I didn't know that one, but I recently discovered that you can do the same thing when you rescue Mary Linton's brother, Jamie. He'll hang out with you and smoke cigars every one in a while. It's pretty funny. 🤣
@@shermutt Jamie is honestly cold blooded, he’ll shoot anyone who fights you lmao.
But Swanson is hilarious as he’ll keep making funny noises until he passes out. From then on he’ll be in an eternal sleep until you beat the mission.
@@redvice6210 Reverene died once I crossed over to New Austin...
@@-_--_--- you can only explore Great Plains and tall trees
Curious can we get herbs doing said missions?
I was reading Arthur's journal about his blackwater memories, I really wanna go there as Arthur. Thanks for the tip man💯🔥
Rockstar employee watching: “We need to patch this.”
Luckily they don’t give a shit about rdr2 so it won’t happen until GTAV stops filling their pockets.
It will be patched post haste. While actual development and new content take a back seat.
this is really off topic but i really like this guy he actually gets to the point and has good communication and makes the video interesting
The only issue I or should say “we” have from this game is the fact we can’t explore new Austin with Arthur, I mean all these legendary animals in new Austin to get for the trapper can’t be possible because they are in New Austin. They could of at least let us explore as Arthur and made it so that you can explore as long as you don’t get spotted by a lawman then you become wanted for example on the mini map it would show in red a lawman and you just make sure you don’t get spotted by him easy as that so that we may get what we want/need in New Austin as Arthur.
I agree. The invisible sniper feels like kind of week game design in terms of keeping an area off limits. There are still ways to explore down there if you bring something to block the sniper fire (carcass or buggy are the most effective), but they are pretty time consuming.
I think the theory behind restricting NA access in the main story was so that there was additional "new" content saved for the epilogue. Still though, not letting Arthur down there down there doesn't really make sense story-wise.
Dang more people need to see this but this could lead to it being patched! I was also hoping to get a appolosa that Arthur can't get but this has been interesting to watch. Thank you for showing this.
Haha, you bet. Yeah, honestly, I think R* may have just given up on patching stuff on here unless it's really OP or cuts into their bottom line. Hopefully this one will stick around for a while because it's fun to play with.
And if you mean the Leopard Appaloosa, yeah idk of a way to get that early. I guess you can get Trelawney's horse in ch 4 if meet the right requirements, but i haven't heard anything about the white and black one. Good looking horse too! Shame.
I can't wait to try this out--thanks for this! After playing the game several times, I now just live in chapter 2. I keep finding new items and places and interactions, collected some plants and journal entries in Tall Trees and on the outskirts of Blackwater (by having a very fast horse), but hadn't figured out a safe way to walk around inside the town itself. I hope R* let us keep this one--it'd just be fun to wander around Blackwater a bit and look at things as our man Arthur! (Let us have our fun, Rockstar!)
Awesome, that makes me happy! I hope it works well for you, but feel free to let me know if you have any trouble.
I'm actually doing the same thing currently. I've made it a mission to try to do everything I possibly can do during ch 2. So far I've managed to do darn near everything in New Austin using the buggy/carcass methods (including the Elemental Trail Treasure and catch all the legendary fish...videos coming soon). I'm currently working on trying to get the tiger striped mustang (although apparently I'm not the first to think of that one) and I vow to get the Otis Miller chest looted before leaving the chapter!
Not sure if you know these, but during both the rev Swanson mission and the first Mary Linton mission with Jamie, you can go down and explore Great Plains/Tall Trees freely (minus Blackwater). They are both great for stress free exploration of the area. I've also heard you can do the same thing with the serial killer on your horse, but I haven't tried that myself. Enjoy!
@@shermutt I didn’t know about exploring during Mary Linton and Rev. Swanson missions! I went to Tall Trees with Charles during the final chapter 2 mission, and I like Charles a whole heckuva lot but he pestered Arthur the entire time about getting back on the right route. Can’t go into Blackwater proper on that mission, either.
@@shermutt And if you can get the Otis Miller chest... you will be the superstar of all Chapter-2-Arthurs...
@@SPQRKlio Well, I've got good news and bad news there. I did finally manage to open the chest and loot it, but for some reason it won't let me loot the gun, only the pictures. It's really frustrating. I'm hoping that after doing a couple of missions it will work, but I have my doubts.
So, either my game is coincidentally glitching out on the one thing I've tried to do more than anything, or they've programmed it so you just can't get the gun that early. If all else fails, I might restart a new game and just try it on that too see.
@@shermutt back when the game launched and the new austin glitch existed you could use it as I had it with Arthur. Did everything you could do back in chapter 4. Only thing was once I finished the Epilogue I didn't have shit left for John to do lol. Also Arthur writes and draws way better than John does. Since all that was in the game, I'm assuming at one point in development it was supposed to be totally open but for some reason they changed it.
Idk why Rockstar won’t let us just go all over the map as Arthur. I finished this game once, and whenever I see the sunrise for the last time, I start the game over. I don’t like playing as John, and I don’t like his story, and I just don’t like John. Thanks for the video.
John was great in red dead, Arthur is a legend for all time 👍
you know, I have visited West Elizabeth without any cops spawning during the very first Beau Grey mission in chapter 3. when the teen romantic music is in the background. the one in which you have to give his letter to Penelope.
it was nice to reveal the map of the WE region by simply riding on your horse.
but once you get inside New Austin, you are dead. invisible snipers kill you instantly.
This is what makes Rockstar frustrating for their fans, they don't care about any feedback we give them to make game more enjoyable.
Filling all of great plains with insta kill cops and new Austin with an insta kill sniper is probably the worst decision in this otherwise amazing game. All they needed to do was just have you permanently wanted in blackwater and maybe have a few regular police wandering around great plains, new Austin should be completely open to explore once you get through all that. I really don't yet why they did that too, armadillo's saloon owner literally has black hair to signify that hes younger, and the missions where you catch fish with that guy near rio bravo has voicelines for Arthur.
“Quickest way to get the cops on you”
*does burnouts in the horse pen*
If you’re a Rockstar employee, go fix other problems such as when gang members keep saying “you’re gonna catch a cold” even if you have a goddang fur coat on.
And we’d like to take off the off-hand holster and take out Arthur’s shirt and buy Navy Revolver.
Support your fans!!!
I got lucky on my 5th playthough...came across one of the ladies who's horse had dropped dead asking for a ride to Emerald Ranch, only her horse wasn't dead but just standing there..It was a Missouri Fox Trotter. Never switched saddles so fast in my life lol.
Ooh, nice! I've personally never had that happen myself, but this is also only my 2nd playthrough. Supposedly, if you find that encounter, you can run away and run back and sometimes the horse will respawn alive. I guess you can keep doing that until it works, however I've never tested this myself, so use at your own risk.
Lucky!
I got it through the Arcadia for Amateurs mission. There is literally a SDP MFT he wants to take a photo off, I just skipped the cutscene and ran straight for it, found it and for some reason couldn't mount it so I jumped on it and managed to tame it, unfortunately I hopped off and couldn't get on it again, I had to jump on it from my horse again, go back to the stable, saddle it up and boom it was mine.
I'd love to see a Arthur, Dutch, Hosea prequel
Pro: Arthur gets to enter Blackwater!
Con: Blackwater’s effectively a ghost town & you can’t leave.
Bro you can get the Red Arabian by going north east of Lake Owanjila and taming it just like the white Arabian.
Yeah, unfortunately they chose not to really open up the town until the epilogue.
And yeah, I know about the red Arabian, but it's stats are not quite as good as the white and black. Same with the warped brindle. I was hoping to get the rose gray Arabian in blackwater, but just like everything else, it doesn't even show up until the epilogue, unfortunately.
I already completed the game sadly, and now I can roam everywhere as John
just restart the game
@@coltonstubbington3543 that's what I did recently. I'm losing my marbles every time I touch water as John while trying to explore the world more.
he can't swim, it sucks
"Rockstar, please don't patch it!" Says alot about players experience with a game companies release and update policies. Nice video btw :)
Haha, totally! And thank you! 😊
There’s also a trick to get camp members to ride with you once you’re at Horseshoe Overlook. Prolly still on yt somewhere
Love the chill vibe of this video
I think you can do it cause bounty hunters won't be allowed into Blackwater because of the lockdown. Once you're inside and not caught by the police, you are fine.
I did the same thing as long as you don't go near the money at black water. Which located near the bank and workers camp .a wagon with crates and the chest is below the wagon surface. You can travel anywhere without causing total lockdown and massive police and Pinkerton and snipers presence.
Oh, interesting! I tried to find the "stash" but was never able to. I'll have to play around with that then.
That's awesome shermutt and you're gonna have lots of fun. Even as Arthur morgan you can encounter Famous Brutus Grizzly. But I used him to ambush the bounty hunters whom where chasing me. Plus enjoy Otis miller treasure and others as well. The black flower painting and native American necklace is great add and from RD1 . ENJOY my friend. Happy hunting.
@@michaelmiller9938 oh wait, hold up. You're talking about New Austin stuff. Are you saying that you were able to get into New Austin by doing this, or am I misunderstanding? If so, I've definitely never been able to do that (without using a buggy or carcass over my shoulder to block sniper fire). Any more details you can provide would be great! Thanks.
Shermutt and yes my brother and makes things happen better for Arthur morgan and different dialogues.side quests and bounty hunter .
Shermutt also big game hunting and you can cross the water get so drunk at Mexico border and you end up in Mexico. At the devil's cave you close to wall get so drunk it spawns you out the map and can hunt multiple animal's where snow meets the desert.
if you press start for a longer time then you skip the main menu and go straight to the map so you save time
This is the chillest dude i've found on the internet
Well with the bounty from Strawberry on the back of my horse, i could manage to visit some of the red area near blackwater and some of new austin without triggering the wanted or the bounty hunters spawning
This guy's so chill and cool. Great video
That one dislike is from black water mayor
This glitch is awesome! I had no idea about it until I saw it a few days ago and decided to mess with it. Had zero luck, did about 15-20 tries and since one of your tips said you had more success with going out and back in I decided to go for that strategy as the chase was already happening but I still had the cops together, in a tight group, after me so I went out and back in and then stuck to the borders until I reached the pier and somehow lost them and just the guy on the pier spawned but never saw me. So it actually worked. And wierdly, I was going clockwise.
I would say it definitely works and still needs more testing. But to me some things are mandatory for it to happen:
- always have the map set to "Expanded";
- gather as much cops as you can, run throughout town a lot before going north;
- fast horse and have a good distance on them during the chase;
- if it doesn't work during the first few tries I suggest crossing the border to Great Plains and coming back, since that was the only thing that worked for me.
Also, at nighttime Pinkertons started spawning in town which was weird to me so my guess is either the game resets at some point, I got too close to the borders or just the glitch works for a limited time. If you can check the video for me and see if I am doing it right or wrong that would be lovely:
th-cam.com/video/PXs1YrF7U0E/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! 🙏
AWESOME!! I just watched your video and you did a great job! Thanks for taking up the torch on this one. It has some real promise, butI just can't get a consistent enough/better method together to make another video about it.
I've messed with it a whole bunch over the years (I play pretty sporadically) and have had success doing it a few different ways. Most recently, I had it work by having the cops in Blackwater kill me, respawning back in Strawberry, then going back dawn with another lawman in tow. When I got back into blackwater, only a very small amount of lawmen spawned and were easy to lose (similar to how they behave after you get the glitch to work) and the town was clear! I thought "wow, this method certainly has potential and would be much easier for other people!" But unfortunately, I couldn't replicate the results. Half the time I would just spawn back at horseshoe overlook, and the times that I did spawn in Strawberry, it just didn't work the same way.
I've also had it work by just charging back through the Pinkertons in Great Plains right after dying in Blackwater and being able to lose them all easily again too. Again though, not consistent enough. I only could get it to work that once.
I think there might be something to the dying then going back method, but I can't figure out exactly what the conditions have to be for it to trigger the right way. Maybe you could play with that and figure something out?
I like the expanded map tip. I never change mine, so that never occurred to me that it could have anything to do with the success. Not many people that have tried my method have reported success, so maybe that's why?
Again, I'll be sure to comment on your video as well, but thanks for all the great data!
@@shermutt honestly I have no idea why the game sends you back to Strawberry as it happened to me as well but Horseshoe Overlook is something else! lol
I think the whole glitch is about confusing the game after managing to lose the wanted level since it can't spawn the Pinkertons on you because you're still inside the borders but at the same time having the expanded map prevents it from spawning them right next to you (as it usually does since it's the same cop system as the one used in GTA), plus of course the already huge amount of lawmen spawned.
As for the dying and going immediately back to Blackwater maybe it delays the Pinkertons since you have already died once and the game doesn't expect you to cross the river and get to town that fast. That also proves what you say in the video that "you don't really need the Strawberry lawmen chasing you", as long as you can sneak into town unseen, which can be done by going around the Upper Montana River coming from the northeast.
P.S. Btw I was about to give up and the very last try made the difference for me so I am pretty happy to have managed to pull it off! 🙂
I think Rockstar decided to just nerf this part of the map rather than fix every way of glitching into it. I was able to ride to Blackwater with the serial killer on my horse but none of the Blackwater plants were available. I rode all the way to the New Austin border, then the sniper started shooting at me. Never saw a posse though.
Ahh, cool to hear that it let's you get in there with the serial killer. I didn't even think to try that. Thanks!
As far as plants go though, prairie poppy is really the only plant you can only get in great plains. You could either use this glitch to get it, or you could just kite the strawberry police in the and pick some while they are searching for you.
Or if you really don't give a crap, and want to do it the fastest way, you can just run in, pick some quickly, and try to run out before getting wrecked by the pinkertons... I think i went with option 3 when I did it, haha.
If they did a GTA set in fictional Chicago in the 1920s and you play as Jack mind blown.
For fast horses, I just got the Perfect Horse mod. It gives any horse you ride with maxed speed, acceleration, health, stamina, and also elite handling lol. Perfect for when you want to ride a Mustang but hate the poor stats.
Thanks for sharing men most of us trying to reach a mission on Angelo bronte to do roaming in blackwater to get some stuff there
Thanks for not being like others explaining
"I don't care if you like or subscribe..."love it
sir you earned yourself a like and a subscribe by saying "i'm not really a youtuber or a streamer so I don't care if you like or subscribe"
i want REAL content from REAL people sharing stuff they think is interesting or useful
Thank you! And same. :)
Still ticks me off that Rockstar patched the Angelo Bronte method... I managed to get the Legend of the East outfit before it got patched, but a few months ago my PS4 harddrive became corrupted and I lost all of my saved data, now I'm replaying the game and trying to complete all of the challenges and Herbalist 9 is really throwin' me for a loop. I know the Saint Denis carriage trick works, but uugghh it used to be so much cooler to just free roam without worrying about the sniper. And yet bugs and glitches that actually negatively affect the game still haven't been patched to this day. Thanks R*...
I think you still can do the Angelo Bronte method, but only while on the mission, before going back to the Bronte mansion with John after escaping from the cementery, you can't do it while on free roam after replaying the mission anymore.
Seriously, I absolutely hate how lawmen just spawn out of nowhere to fill you with lead for stepping in the border.
I hate that too, that is cheating
the single player game was good. red dead online only teased me of more better missions and what I got was grief when random players just keep killing you. lots of cheaters too, 4 players possies would spawn right next to me and would keep killing me over and over untill I had to exit. I like playing call of duty moder warfare much more... no grief...just fun times
I really wish that Arthur never dies ☹️
I have never played to that point. Watching my hero suffer and die miserably over hours or even days of playtime is not my idea of a good gaming experience. I still have the save game from when that doctor told me I've got to die, never played further. I've got another save game and will stay forever in chapter 4, right before those Bronte missions. I really can't stand the obsession with suffer porn people have nowadays.
The story doesn't make sense if Arthur doesn't die
Honestly there should be a free roam mode where you can explore the whole map without wanted levels. Maybe even allow you to use different characters or create your own.
bro u gotta make more vids, this was refreshing
Hey, thanks. I keep meaning to, but just haven't gotten around to it. I do have a few that I still want to make that I feel like would actually contribute, but I just don't want to get into the habit of making them just for the sake of it, if you know what I mean. But I really appreciate the feedback and I'll try to get more out. :)
What’s funny is one of the story missions (where u gotta save Sean) start just near Blackwater. While replaying RDR2 I entered did not even enter the town but immediately got cops on my tail trying to kill me.
Fantastic (I've done it all to 100%) but this vid is soooo damn helpful for others wanting to go there earlier than normally allowed.
You make great vids, I had to sub.
Can u go outside of black water
@@frog9757 no, you get shot if you try to get to New Austin...
Great way to explore Blackwater I've found is if in Chapter2 - get the serial killer man called Edmund Lowry, hogtie and put him on your horse - instead of taking him to the sheriff of valentine you can enter Blackwater with no lawmen or Pinkerton's shooting you.
It works 100% as of April 2023.
This is so cursed. Arthur in Blackwater riding a silver dapple pinto missouri foxtrotter.
As of October 28, 2021, this does not work anymore. Lawmen don’t despawn after losing them while staying within the borders of Blackwater. Looks like Rockstar didn’t listen and patched it. :\
Thanks for the info, I'll check it when I get a chance and update the title if need be. Keep in mind though, it's not a very solid method and the attempt in this video went better than average. I'd say I can only get it to work maybe 50% of the time. I'm still not sure exactly what causes it to work or not, but I have a suspicion that it only works if you get close enough to the border (sometimes even if you cross it). In other words, I've found I have the least success when I stay well within the border.
Also, last I tried (maybe 3 months ago), I had more success going counter clockwise instead of clockwise and actually going around that church/graveyard. I would try to gather all the cops in that big area on that north side of town, then just lose them all at once. It's weird, once you turn the corner of that fence around the cemetery, they all start "searching" when they are clearly still within view of you. So, honestly, it's got me a bit stumped.
I've been wanting to get it more perfected and re-release a more reliable method, but I just can't seem to work it out. Feel free to play around with it, and if you figure something out, please let me know. Thanks!
I know a good way to get the rose gray Arabian horse in chapter 4. Use the Angelo Bronte a man of honor mission, have autosaving enabled, use the cheats you want and spawn in a rose gray Arabian via cheats. Finish the mission, it'll ask you if you wanna autosave, hit yes, load the save file, save again then close the game so you can get achievements/trophies
Oh, interesting... Does it only work with that mission specifically?
@@shermutt I think so
I mean they could’ve just let us “sneak” around as Arthur so we can at least look around Blackwater.
I remember a few weeks after the game came out I rode right up against the hill heading into new Austin around ch 3 and made it as Arthur I wish i still had the clip
I actually snuck in by finding a boat in Lemoyne and just paddling into the dock areas and I got in via the beach and nobody bothered me. You can’t do anything there though.
Same here. Dutch's mothers grave that you can view as john has no descrip if you visit the grave yard as arthur
“I don’t care if you subscribe or like”. You sir, have gained a follower. Just for that, hate when mfs always say “make sure to gut that like and subscribe button” a thousand times.
I had £180 bounty in West Elizabeth and I got the tip to hold up the Stagecoach down by Blackwater I didn’t read the tip I went down next to black water to try and activate some bounty hunters to stop the Stagecoach mission from disappearing I slowly edged my way intoBlackwater state and I was running around the land I’ve got sniped Entering new Austin but I was running around free it was awesome
Hmm, yes *£*
Straight to the point.. Like it very much. Thanks man 👍🏻
You can actually easily just boat into the dock of blackwater. Make sure you aren’t too close to the guards though
Nevermind. I went in and immediately got spotted by the town guards. Without my horse I couldn’t stand a chance
@Shermutt - Thanks for your content. You should keep doing these. 👍
Saw where you guys had a discussion about RDR3 ideas. I don't think people are ready to let go of Arthur. My idea would be to reveal that his meeting with the time traveler (Sinclair?) was more significant than anyone thought. Arthur (Maybe with the help of Sinclair unlocking the mystery of time travel) can make right everything that went wrong... ("Final Redemption?") save Jenny, Davey, Hosea, Kieran, Lenny and whoever else he wants; He could avoid Tuberculosis, deal with Micah in a more satisfying way, and Marry Sadie. 😎👍
The way RDR2 played out at the end could turn out to be what Arthur saw when using the Strange Carvings Mystery, and that was Francis Sinclair's payment to him for helping him find the carvings? That's what I would want. We all love a happy ending, because we rarely get them in life.
Wow, I love that idea! I worry it might seem too sci-fi for most RDR fans, but I'd personally be 100% on board with that.
I like what you said about happy endings too. I agree. Real life can be plenty depressing enough on its own. I feel like stories are meant to inspire people and give them hope.
Anyway, thanks for the comment! I do enjoy doing these, but I haven't felt like I've had time lately to devote to putting together some proper videos. I have a bunch of saved footage from things I've discovered (for instance, how to do the elemental trail treasure map in ch 2), but I just can't seem to get around to making them into some decent videos. Thank you for the encouragement though. It definitely helps. :)
Thanks for this ! I just did the angelo bronte glitch in chap 4 and explored black water it was cool but i was trying to get the legendary animals
If you go into blakwater when the mission to get sean is available you can just walk right in and have no problem
Will the drawing stay if you replay it after you already finished it
"I don't care if you like or subscribe or whatever." I love that attitude :)
Do you know how to get free horses from the stable in the beginning of the game or when ever you want ? If not this is how get a wagon gor to stable move half way in shoot you gun to get wanted level and the stable doors will try closeing get off the wagon pick a horse feed it then leave the stable and call the horse and it will come out and you have yourself a horse.
Yeah, I do know about that trick, Actually, I used it to get the Rose Gray Arabian in my first playthrough. I was hoping to use it to get one early in Blackwater, but alas, the stables just don't have them and aren't even open.
That is a solid glitch though. Hopefully they don't patch it.
Genius. I tried to explore blackwater today and the only way I could do it was by turning on the unlimited dead eye cheat. Explored the town in dead eye while shooting down 100s of policemen along the way.
What happened if we step out of blackwater and come back? Do we have to repeat the whole process?
Yeah, kind of. The lawmen will respawn, but I've been able to make it work again without going all the way back out of Great Plains.
Honestly, I have a feeling that you can do this in the first place without having a lawman follow you from outside Great Plains, but I haven't been able to make it work yet, so idk. I have been able to make it work again that way after getting killed by the Blackwater PD, but never from a completely dry run.
There's something there that hopefully someone smarter than me can work out better, because I still can't completely understand it.
let me get this straight, do i have to make an authority follow me to black water and have to outrun the pinkertons without leaving black water?
(I'm sorry for the question, I'm a gringo and I don't know much about English)
Not the pinkertons, but the blackwater police, yes. It can be tricky, and the run I did in this video went better than they normally do, but that's the general idea. I've actually had it work before when I crossed the border then went back in, but I'm not sure of there's a limit and how far that is.
Most gringos speak english.
@@jeremyphillips3087 only 5% of the Brazilian population knows how to communicate in English
@@gabrielpeixotoferreira115 brazilians are called gringos?
@@jeremyphillips3087 as far as I know, gringos are people of other nationalities
When you're wanted dead or alive, and you go to that place just to talk to people and have some fun...
Yeeeeeahh
Can you do an autosave here, without being shot at, once you reload ?
Not 100% sure, but I think no. I feel like I tested that, and the cops were all still there upon reloading the save.
However, you can sleep in the empty tents in the workers camp, so maybe saving from there would be different. Probably not, but worth a shot.
@@shermutt thanks for aswering :)
@@shermutt you can also save in new austin because when i went to guarma I kept going into sniper zone in new austin by accident and saved my game and after reaching guarma I loaded the old one and I was in new austin but after you move a few seconds and the sniper will kill you
After I did this glitch it allowed me to set a camp outside blackwater as arthur and when I did it got rid of spawing Pinkerton which allowed me to use the trapper in tall tress so cool
@@RO6UK oh really?! That's awesome!! I had no idea! You should make a video about it. That's a pretty handy glitch!
Also, there's a better way of doing this glitch. Essentially you just approach from the shore without doing the cop thing, and get the blackwater cops to chase you. Then you head up by the river and try to lose them, then re-enter the town before wanted level goes all the way down. (I think.) I saw another TH-camr do this along with a glitch on how to enter/loot the general store. Kind of makes my way obsolete.
Arent you cold in those clothes Arthur?
😂😂
Nice video, bro. Straight to the point 👍
Don’t do this with a shire…
🤣🤣🤣
4:01 Chipmunk Arthur "AGH" was cute
As of 7/4/22 ps4 this is patched 🙁. The officers start spawning in randome places the closer you get to Blackwater and you end up getting massacred.
I can confirm it's not patched. Just very difficult to pull off! It took me about 15 tries but I finally manage to do it. If what you do isn't working I suggest getting them in a tight group lure them to church like shown in the video but cross the border and get right back in it. See if that works for you.
OMG IT WORKED I JUST TRIED IT THANKYOU SO MUCH YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!
It worked ???
It might take a few tries, but it definitely works.
Ok
I will try
They should make rdr3 playing as mac or davey and you play up until the blackwater massacre
There is another glitch you can use to roam blackwater with arthur without tons of pinkertons on your tail. Just tried it on 9 april 2022 and it works.
In shady belle chapter, there will be a mission when you have to save tilly from the foreman gang in Radley House near rhodes (mission : "no, no and thrice no"). The mission will be marked with MB (mary beth will first converse with arthur & ms. Grimshaw will suddenly intervene to inform about tilly).
When arthur & ms. Grimshaw mount the coach, instead of going for the foreman's house, go to blackwater (its a long ride, i know. Just follow the railtracks). No pinkertons will appear relentlessly once you enter the great plains. But tons of pinkertons & lawmen will always be there in blackwater.
I let myself get spotted by a lawman in blackwater & ran to great plain to test if this will trigger pinkertons to pop-up as usual, & apparently they were not appearing. So i managed to shake off my pursuer and everything went well.
I managed to catch legendary rock bass fish at aurora basin, inspect circus wreckage near manzanita post and wickiup
Unfortunately, there are few downsides :
1. There are no pickable plants in blackwater, great plains etc. Apparently the glitch caused all pickable plants to vanish. But animals still appear and killable as usual.
2. The invisible sniper will still be active & triggered once arthur entering new austin
Note :
I assume the glitches to enter blackwater safely can be exploited on any missions where arthur is required to ride with other characters (drunk reverend, serial killer, or other gang members) to a certain places from another. This will keep arthur registered as "within a mission" thus stopping pinkertons from super-spawning, when entering blackwater/great plain area.
i want to be your 1000th subscriber (you have 998 currently) because this is the best video I've seen doing this early exploration!
Aww, shucks, thanks! Yeah, I noticed that today... Kinda cool. 😊 I'll have to make a special video and give you a shout out. :)
999... 🤩
@@shermutt noo no need lmao happy almost 1k you deserve it partner
I hate that rockstar had plans to arthur do to people finding voice lines of arthur talking to sick people in armadillo but then at the last minute remembered that they didn't have a lot of content for so they scrapped arthur being able to travel to new Austin. But in the universe it doesn't make that much sense since they didn't know that john was with them they could've just sent john to get in and out since when agent moron shows up at clemens point he asks who john even was. Which reveals they didn't know john or what he looked like.
I found another way go straight to beechers hope as arthur if you can survive and lose your wanted level you can enter blackwater
If in chapter 2 - You can get to wander round Blackwater (only, no new Austin) by having serial killer Edmund Lowry on your horse (as opposed to be taking him back to valentine sheriff).
It works 100% (April 2023 - PS4).
It's a good way to get "Legendary Rock Bass" at the "Aurora Basin" lake.
Unfortunately it's no good for the Herbalist Challenge plants, and if you try to cross the bridge into New Austin the sniper will get you instantly.
Happy 'half' hunting Cowboys n' Cowgals!!!
Yeeeehaaaaw!!!
nice video, thanks! I just wish i could boat around flat iron lake as arthur and not bring hell down on my head.
May be in RDR3 there may be mission where recovering the loot from blackwater may be its saide adler or jack may be
(Spoilers) Micah and Dutch already retrieved the blackwater money which is the same money John, Sadie and Charles split between themselves
A like button for you i 2024 for your honesty, my friend.
Finally someone modest who doesnt give a F**K about views i am new to the channel love the content liked and subd
Hey thanks. Yeah, it bothers me when TH-camrs basically beg people to support their stuff. I think that decision should be entirely up to the viewer. But also, I just don't know how much content I plan on making. I don't want to get into the habit of just making videos for the sake of it. If I feel like I have something useful to add that hasn't been covered by someone else, I'll try to make one. I have a couple other ideas in the pipe for other stuff, but I have other stuff going on in life, so I'm just not that sure of when that'll be.
Anyway, that aside, glad you liked it! 😊
I honestly just want to get into Blackwater just to get that dark blue flannel shirt that's part of the McLaughlin outfit for Arthur to wear.
If it's something they seem at the tailor, they aren't open to buy anything and I suck at doing the door breaching glitch to try to get inside and see if it lets you shop if you DO get in, BUT... I'm case you didn't know, you can actually buy any of those area specific outfit pieces on the companion app and have it delivered in game immediately.
I learned that the hard way after spending hours attempting to shop at the tumbleweed general store as Arthur Ave being so proud of myself for actually accomplishing it, only to find out that I could have just bought everything they sell there on the app easily. 🤣
Edit: all that said, I'm not 100% sure if that outfit is even available for sale until the epilogue, but it's definitely worth checking out.
“Oop, oop, that was, uh, graceful” 😂
I subscribed cause you didn't beg for a sub like a lot of others do. Great video keep it up.
thanks for the closed captions