You can show up drunk everyday and that's cool with everyone, alcohol kills people daily. Weed very seldom causes someone to die. Goes to show how powerful the alcohol industry is
Personally feel the war on drugs has and always will be a failed endeavor, but if they want to continue their lost cause, they can channel resources towards legitimately dangerous drugs like fentanyl.
The issue I have with saliva testing, is that if you smoke marijuana the night before and you’re sober at work. The saliva test is up to 72 hours. It’s stil not an indication that your high in that moment. That’s like a breathalyzer, detecting alcohol that you drank two days ago.
While true it's still better than how they currently test. To bad they didn't run more test and raise the threshold from 4 ng to something higher therefore lowering the detection window. I would have thought they would have adjusted the threshold so if they tested 10 hours after use it would be negative since you would no longer be "impaired".
@@dpscott000 I agree, but during a work environment, I think legally, you can’t have any alcohol in your system at all. Not even .03. Because it means you’ve consumed alcohol within 12 hours of your shift. I’ve had employees show up hungover and reeked like booze for hours into their shift.
@@naturesbest7977I was in the oilfield for 10 years my supervisor was called out at night for an emergency, company man was being a dick and smelt alcohol on his breath called for testing and guy lost his job/ career of 20+ years
Companies should only test on Wednesday (assuming the work week's M-F) so that they're not nailing people who smoked over the weekend. You'd still possibly get screwed though if you smoked M/Tu night.
That depends, i have smoked 30minutes before plenty of saliva tests and i passed all of them even though i smoked 30minutes before, i found out how too, when testing saliva for marijuana the tests dont look for the marijuana metabolites the way it does with all other drugs, so if a employer wants an accurate Marijuana saliva reading they will have to give VERY specific instructions to the donor, in order to get a positive, the donor has to basically collect from the entire mouth BEFORE soaking it in saliva, rub the cheeks, teeth, gums, roof of the mouth and tongue, id say about 90-95% of employers dont do that, they just have you stick it your mouth to instantly start collecting saliva, while that works for all the other drugs it dont work that way with marijuana, ive also tested the theory and in my experiment what im saying rings true, ive only gotten a positive marijuana result when i rubbed the sponge through all of my mouth and even then i still got a few negatives, so marijuana just isnt easily detected unless you go to a clinic and take Oral Eze, that can go back on marijuana like pee but thats only because your saliva is being tested in a lab, not a rapid test
About f n time some progress still I believe it must be treated like alcohol. We still can't smoke after long days hard work just maybe Friday before the weekend or on vacation.
So a DOT driver can get drunk all weekend and go drive an 18 wheeler but if some poor bastard who tokes a doober can be denied employment up to 3 months later? This country sucks a little harder each year…
Yep, they say ‘10 From Beer To Steer’. But heaven forbid if you smoked weed over your 36 reset. Dear gawd you dangerous fool, don’t deserve a good job.
The marijuana doctor I go to prescribes Marinol so that way if there's ever an issue with drug testing you only need the letter from the doctor stating that the Marinol will not affect your driving I do not think an mro can test the difference between real marijuana and synthetic THC
Can you do a video on the difference between the 5 panel DOT test and the 10 panel hospital drug test? What they test for and what they don’t and maybe why ect. Thank you sir
The panel means the type of drugs are being tested… If it’s a 5 panel they are testing for 5 types of drugs,,, if it’s 10 panel they are testing for 10 types of drugs and so forth
They'll likely still leave the hair testing option on the table. Many positions with larger companies who are self insured might want their employees squeaky clean. And then there are the insurance companies that may want to put in their two cents to incentivize companies to stick with the more strict testing methods.
@EasyDOTPhysicals Hello Doctor, when saliva testing becomes available is it still going to be employer decision which test they allow? Any news making saliva testing either the only option or giving the employee the option? Thank you!
@@jakaramoore523 I never had one online says 5 to 48 hours they should have it more like a breathalyzer type deal but I guess they don't have the technology yet the job im going for is hair follicle test still crazy
@@KamMitchell-f3hlol I smoked 23 hours before and kinda stopped smoking as much pot over the two-three days leading up too, after I took my last hoot at 3 I had a test lined up at 2:30 then brushed, waited 15 mins then listerine (didn’t even floss) didn’t brush until later that evening then woke up and made chicken, ate chicken then went to work and passed. Edit: oh yeah and of course brushed after so 3 mouth cleans and a big meal should do it.
Did the FDA ever get around to approving the oral fluid collection device? Last thing I read on it was as of March 18th 2024 they were still dragging their feet
@@EasyDOTPhysicalshey doc so I took one puff of vape thc and that was 13 days and I have a uirne drug test in 3 to 4 days I drank lot of water and fruit I’m 226 pounds and I promise it was only one and it was in my mouth for a second and I didn’t get high
@@EasyDOTPhysicals how’s it going doctor if i took 3 to 4 puffs of marijuana 2 months ago would that show up in a hair follicle test im not a smoker at all and i literally only inhaled 5 times max thanks much for any help
Question: What if you inhale and exhale thru your nose, being very careful to keep your mouth closed? Maybe even putting a substance (as yet unknown) in your mouth to block exhale.
Do you think they might remove THC violations that are currently on the clearinghouse? Hadn't used in 45 days before my test still got a violation. if they make this change they should remove past violations like mine
@@ike3981 if not they probably should because its bs. I wasn't even employed or driving a truck at the time I was going through school and only smoked weeks before class started. I was never anywhere close to being high while driving a truck but still going to have a harder time finding a job than felons. Make it make sense
If the fmcsa switches to saliva testing,the company must follow federal drug testing guidelines and only use saliva testing. However,the company can implement a policy that prohibits anyone from using cannabis. That gives them the right t o send you for a urine test on top of the dot random.
Is there any Labs getting close to certification? How long do you project saliva testing will be used by companies? It seems like every one smokes weed these days
THC Is fat soluble, naturally marijuana will stay about a month. If ur skinny. But heavy is about 2 months tops, Salvia for heavy smoker is about 3 days or 4. Light is about a day or 2, to really clean ourself is to have fiber & healthy food. DRINK Alot water 2!! & Steamroom everyday, it cleans ur whole system. Even hair but hair is about 3 months but use steamroom everyday to shorten the time span. I been do this about 10 years on the job.
I heard you say "impaired" under the influence... What if an odd ball one gets "improved" after using??? I have a friend who races cars and karts and that sucker is faster when he's ""Impaired"" !!!
I read that when cannabis is moved to a schedule 3 it falls off the mandatory schedule one DOT drug testing. DOT does not test for schedule 3 currently. Can you confirm this.
@@18wheeler76 maybe the rules are different for your d.o.t. because the place I go to sniffs it. My buddy failed because he used synthetic urine. The temp was good and the level was fine. The nurse said she couldn't smell it and they failed him.
They just don’t want to get sued. If their employees crashes and fails a drug test then it will cause their company issues. No one saying marijuana is bad but it is illegal on federal level.
Is the cut off the same for private employers or do they have a higher cut off sometime? I’ve heard 50 ng and now I am hearing 4 ng. It seems like if they wanted to know if they were using at work they would make the cut off higher (sensitivity of the test)
So .. if you are a chronic user , smoking daily multiple times a day, then you stop , 3 or 4 days before a saliva swab test , that chronic cannabis user would test clean ? Is that correct ? But on a urine or blood test you would need weeks or maybe months to pass clean without using fake/synthetic pee .. this is usefull information if confirmed.
Chronic flower smoker here, had a swab test (unexpected) in job interview yesterday, last smoked flower the night before, had test about 2pm and passed I think the main thing is just making sure your mouth is clean
Hey there, I have a question about the time the THC stays in the saliva. Some people say saliva can provide positive results for up to months but I just watched a video where they say it will only be detectable for up to 2-7 days... which one is true, please be specific. I'm trying to get around it by using mouth wash (Listerine), fatty foods and 3% peroxide. Thanks in advance
From someone who both failed and passed a D test, you can slow it down a couple days before hand, and going 24 hours later after taking a hoot, as long as you brush and use mouthwash 3 times or more I guarantee you will be fine, also eat food before you go in and brush again that’s always the last stop before d test town.
@ike3981 I'm being serious. There's how many unsolved cold cases in the country going back decades? It's almost certain the government will be taking DNA and they probably will use it in that way💁♂️
Doc i didnt smoke for 3 months, then on may i started smoking little hit on a pipe daily (3-4 times a day less than 0.3 grams per day) on may 26 i stopped because drug testing and i been clean now for 10 days (June 6) maybe in one week or two i have the drug test, i train 3 times a week boxing for 1:30 hours im 5,8 and weight 185 pounds when will i become clean? also i drink a lot of water and eat healthy.
I haven’t smoked in nearly three months yet I’m still testing positive with the urine tests how long till I’m negative do u think ,I was a heavy smoker for nearly thirty years
This is a complete waste of time. Carriers will never preform a swab test for the industry. It’s going to be urine and hair and that’s that. Like many people have stated the insurance companies will be the determining factor here. That is how it is with everything and it will never change. So us discussing this is pointless. Look how it is now hair testing is not even an approved procedure from the FMCSA and yet here we are. You will always be able to drink the night before you get on duty and nothing will ever happen to you. This and being exempt from the Federal Labor Standards Act we will always be considered second class citizens. We will always be dictated on what we can and cannot do on our off time. It will never change there are way to many organizations like ATA that have politicians in their pockets and bank roll campaigns it will never change
This drug test doesn’t seem accurate at all if u can be around ppl smoking in a car and test positive if you are not smoking🤷🏾 why are we still testing for weed in 2024
Don't worry so much about DNA. It's just a quick swab of the mouth and the results come in in around 15 minutes. Just a test to let them know if you are currently impaired.
You can show up drunk everyday and that's cool with everyone, alcohol kills people daily. Weed very seldom causes someone to die. Goes to show how powerful the alcohol industry is
They should just eliminate testing for this. It's discrimination. End of story.
Yeah but then the war on drugs loses.. and they can’t make any money that way so… lmfao
Personally feel the war on drugs has and always will be a failed endeavor, but if they want to continue their lost cause, they can channel resources towards legitimately dangerous drugs like fentanyl.
The issue I have with saliva testing, is that if you smoke marijuana the night before and you’re sober at work. The saliva test is up to 72 hours. It’s stil not an indication that your high in that moment. That’s like a breathalyzer, detecting alcohol that you drank two days ago.
While true it's still better than how they currently test. To bad they didn't run more test and raise the threshold from 4 ng to something higher therefore lowering the detection window. I would have thought they would have adjusted the threshold so if they tested 10 hours after use it would be negative since you would no longer be "impaired".
@@dpscott000 I agree, but during a work environment, I think legally, you can’t have any alcohol in your system at all. Not even .03. Because it means you’ve consumed alcohol within 12 hours of your shift.
I’ve had employees show up hungover and reeked like booze for hours into their shift.
Still much better.
The test is worthless for this very reason.
@@naturesbest7977I was in the oilfield for 10 years my supervisor was called out at night for an emergency, company man was being a dick and smelt alcohol on his breath called for testing and guy lost his job/ career of 20+ years
Companies should only test on Wednesday (assuming the work week's M-F) so that they're not nailing people who smoked over the weekend. You'd still possibly get screwed though if you smoked M/Tu night.
That depends, i have smoked 30minutes before plenty of saliva tests and i passed all of them even though i smoked 30minutes before, i found out how too, when testing saliva for marijuana the tests dont look for the marijuana metabolites the way it does with all other drugs, so if a employer wants an accurate Marijuana saliva reading they will have to give VERY specific instructions to the donor, in order to get a positive, the donor has to basically collect from the entire mouth BEFORE soaking it in saliva, rub the cheeks, teeth, gums, roof of the mouth and tongue, id say about 90-95% of employers dont do that, they just have you stick it your mouth to instantly start collecting saliva, while that works for all the other drugs it dont work that way with marijuana, ive also tested the theory and in my experiment what im saying rings true, ive only gotten a positive marijuana result when i rubbed the sponge through all of my mouth and even then i still got a few negatives, so marijuana just isnt easily detected unless you go to a clinic and take Oral Eze, that can go back on marijuana like pee but thats only because your saliva is being tested in a lab, not a rapid test
About f n time some progress still I believe it must be treated like alcohol. We still can't smoke after long days hard work just maybe Friday before the weekend or on vacation.
You can clean your mouth to where you're good even if you used within 8-12 hours. Diluted hydrogen peroxide and thorough brushing
im tired of drinking alcohol in place of weed
Bro you can smoke whenever you want
@redfather5342 yea, a guy at my job said the same thing, he's currently in the jobs drug program with 1 foot out the door.
Skip to the 3 minute mark. You’re welcome.
Will saliva testing increase the amount of random tests performed
Shouldn't
So a DOT driver can get drunk all weekend and go drive an 18 wheeler but if some poor bastard who tokes a doober can be denied employment up to 3 months later? This country sucks a little harder each year…
Yep, they say ‘10 From Beer To Steer’. But heaven forbid if you smoked weed over your 36 reset. Dear gawd you dangerous fool, don’t deserve a good job.
Schedule 3 means it can be prescribed by a dr I would think.
The marijuana doctor I go to prescribes Marinol so that way if there's ever an issue with drug testing you only need the letter from the doctor stating that the Marinol will not affect your driving I do not think an mro can test the difference between real marijuana and synthetic THC
That's genius, but does that work for truck drivers, rail road workers etc..?
Can you do a video on the difference between the 5 panel DOT test and the 10 panel hospital drug test? What they test for and what they don’t and maybe why ect. Thank you sir
I will add that to the list!
The panel means the type of drugs are being tested… If it’s a 5 panel they are testing for 5 types of drugs,,, if it’s 10 panel they are testing for 10 types of drugs and so forth
They'll likely still leave the hair testing option on the table. Many positions with larger companies who are self insured might want their employees squeaky clean. And then there are the insurance companies that may want to put in their two cents to incentivize companies to stick with the more strict testing methods.
I read 24 hours. How does cannabis attach to the saliva? What if you did edibles?
How long will cannabis by in system in saliva test
@EasyDOTPhysicals
Hello Doctor, when saliva testing becomes available is it still going to be employer decision which test they allow? Any news making saliva testing either the only option or giving the employee the option?
Thank you!
It's completely up to the employers
Will you get in trouble if your a medical user?
Check your employer’s drug testing policy.
Yes if federally mandated
When are they moving to Salvia testing on the federal level? I am looking to become a police officer after I was discharged from the Army for THC.
I have a couple of friend’s who are police they all said they don’t even take a drug test lol unless they suspected of use
34 hour reset truckers still can't smoke if detection time is couple days
I heard it only last a few hrs not days in saliva
@@jakaramoore523 I never had one online says 5 to 48 hours they should have it more like a breathalyzer type deal but I guess they don't have the technology yet the job im going for is hair follicle test still crazy
Brush and rinse with Listerene you Good!
Not true
@@KamMitchell-f3hlol I smoked 23 hours before and kinda stopped smoking as much pot over the two-three days leading up too, after I took my last hoot at 3 I had a test lined up at 2:30 then brushed, waited 15 mins then listerine (didn’t even floss) didn’t brush until later that evening then woke up and made chicken, ate chicken then went to work and passed. Edit: oh yeah and of course brushed after so 3 mouth cleans and a big meal should do it.
Wrong again sir
Will there be saliva testing kits for home used.
They have them at Walmart/ smoke shops
What about edibles is my question
@@Michael-z5e5djust smoke bro
Did the FDA ever get around to approving the oral fluid collection device? Last thing I read on it was as of March 18th 2024 they were still dragging their feet
I did an update video on this recently
Does anyone how much of a difference a rapid test is compared to a lab test? Is the lab test a lot more thorough?
What if you don't smoke. What about edibles that you just swallow like a pill?
I was thinking the same thing but I'm assuming it's not the smoke that causes the issue but the THC ingredient itself
@rubensantiago5801 I'm thinking so but I've not found any information out on the web about it yet. Maybe I found the trick 😅
I've been loving for information about this online and nothing
It's still THC so you will probably test positive..
Does this change anything for federal probation testing?
Thank you doctor.
Most welcome!
@@EasyDOTPhysicalshey doc so I took one puff of vape thc and that was 13 days and I have a uirne drug test in 3 to 4 days I drank lot of water and fruit I’m 226 pounds and I promise it was only one and it was in my mouth for a second and I didn’t get high
@@EasyDOTPhysicals how’s it going doctor if i took 3 to 4 puffs of marijuana 2 months ago would that show up in a hair follicle test im not a smoker at all and i literally only inhaled 5 times max thanks much for any help
I don't spit or swallow
Question: What if you inhale and exhale thru your nose, being very careful to keep your mouth closed? Maybe even putting a substance (as yet unknown) in your mouth to block exhale.
Or edibles
When is the time period when they roll this out?
I did an update video with a timeline a while back
Will the return to duty process change testing as well?
Does this go for CDL holders?
Do you think they might remove THC violations that are currently on the clearinghouse? Hadn't used in 45 days before my test still got a violation. if they make this change they should remove past violations like mine
Highly doubt it.
@@ike3981 if not they probably should because its bs. I wasn't even employed or driving a truck at the time I was going through school and only smoked weeks before class started. I was never anywhere close to being high while driving a truck but still going to have a harder time finding a job than felons. Make it make sense
how does this effect the SAP Program?
If the fmcsa switches to saliva testing,the company must follow federal drug testing guidelines and only use saliva testing. However,the company can implement a policy that prohibits anyone from using cannabis. That gives them the right t o send you for a urine test on top of the dot random.
Yo good news’s
Having saliva test in probation. How long does cannabis stay in system please 😮
Is there any Labs getting close to certification? How long do you project saliva testing will be used by companies? It seems like every one smokes weed these days
see my update video on saliva testing
A blunt Friday never had me high on Monday … so it being the system ain’t active it’s not working weekends lol
I Stopped smoking 2 weeks ago to prepare for my blood drug test, but I feel like that’s wasn’t enough time. I used to be a slightly heavy user.
Please do a video on actived charcoal affect on thc detox
THC Is fat soluble, naturally marijuana will stay about a month. If ur skinny. But heavy is about 2 months tops, Salvia for heavy smoker is about 3 days or 4. Light is about a day or 2, to really clean ourself is to have fiber & healthy food. DRINK Alot water 2!! & Steamroom everyday, it cleans ur whole system. Even hair but hair is about 3 months but use steamroom everyday to shorten the time span. I been do this about 10 years on the job.
I heard you say "impaired" under the influence...
What if an odd ball one gets "improved" after using???
I have a friend who races cars and karts and that sucker is faster when he's ""Impaired"" !!!
I read that when cannabis is moved to a schedule 3 it falls off the mandatory schedule one DOT drug testing. DOT does not test for schedule 3 currently. Can you confirm this.
no, this is not confirmed
They still test for codeine, but it should be taken off the tests imo, much more unsafe drugs are being used like Xanax and valium.
all you have to do is use synthetic urine and pass everytime.your welcome
It doesn't work anymore because they require a smell for urine now. Synthetic urine doesn't have a smell.
@@mit0009 wdym? is that officially part of the procedure now? Sniffing piss?
Sniff test .😂.
@@mit0009 guess I failed then even tho I passed
@@18wheeler76 maybe the rules are different for your d.o.t. because the place I go to sniffs it. My buddy failed because he used synthetic urine. The temp was good and the level was fine. The nurse said she couldn't smell it and they failed him.
Can they use a rapid drug test against me for DOT purposes
Can someone explain to me why having thc in your fat cells is a bad thing evan if they do leave after a month
They just don’t want to get sued. If their employees crashes and fails a drug test then it will cause their company issues. No one saying marijuana is bad but it is illegal on federal level.
Do you think they are still going to be doing hair follicle?
Private businesses can
How about if you take 3 to 5 puffs on a Friday, would you still test positive on Monday
I remember you saying that we would be disqualified for having an ICD… Does it mean the same for a CCM?
I use Hidden Hills with D-11, D-9 THC-P. Does that takes faster to metabolize ?
How can I by past the saliva test, is it possible?
Is the cut off the same for private employers or do they have a higher cut off sometime? I’ve heard 50 ng and now I am hearing 4 ng. It seems like if they wanted to know if they were using at work they would make the cut off higher (sensitivity of the test)
Private companies can use whatever limit they like
So .. if you are a chronic user , smoking daily multiple times a day, then you stop , 3 or 4 days before a saliva swab test , that chronic cannabis user would test clean ? Is that correct ?
But on a urine or blood test you would need weeks or maybe months to pass clean without using fake/synthetic pee .. this is usefull information if confirmed.
Chronic flower smoker here, had a swab test (unexpected) in job interview yesterday, last smoked flower the night before, had test about 2pm and passed
I think the main thing is just making sure your mouth is clean
Will the saliva test be mandatory for all dot physicals or will companies have the option to do urine if they rather?
Physicals don't include drug testing.
Hey there, I have a question about the time the THC stays in the saliva. Some people say saliva can provide positive results for up to months but I just watched a video where they say it will only be detectable for up to 2-7 days... which one is true, please be specific. I'm trying to get around it by using mouth wash (Listerine), fatty foods and 3% peroxide. Thanks in advance
The video is accurate
Is saliva testing vulnerable to adulteration? My wife says that mouthwash can give a clean result on a saliva test even with same day testing.
From someone who both failed and passed a D test, you can slow it down a couple days before hand, and going 24 hours later after taking a hoot, as long as you brush and use mouthwash 3 times or more I guarantee you will be fine, also eat food before you go in and brush again that’s always the last stop before d test town.
Coast Guard Pilots can fly a helicopter 12 hours after their last drink
Do you have to take a drug test when you renew your dot medical card every 2 years?
not necessarily
@@EasyDOTPhysicals what do you mean
I just took a dot physical changed jobs and now my perspective employer is making me take another dot physical and a drug test.
I wonder how many serial killers are gonna be discovered in the trucking industry, after these new test go into effect🤔
🤦
@ike3981 I'm being serious. There's how many unsolved cold cases in the country going back decades? It's almost certain the government will be taking DNA and they probably will use it in that way💁♂️
Tf are you talking about 😂
Don’t hide your ded lot lizard 🦎 under your bunk! Just saying 🫣
don’t drink the water , it turns the frogs gay
Will you test positive with any trace? Even a .3% THC level like in some CBD products ?
see my CBD video
You will, don’t get confused
TY
NP
Saliva can be beat by listerine
Doc i didnt smoke for 3 months, then on may i started smoking little hit on a pipe daily (3-4 times a day less than 0.3 grams per day) on may 26 i stopped because drug testing and i been clean now for 10 days (June 6) maybe in one week or two i have the drug test, i train 3 times a week boxing for 1:30 hours im 5,8 and weight 185 pounds when will i become clean? also i drink a lot of water and eat healthy.
U should be good
@@calvinpeterson3203 i tell you if i passed
@@calvinpeterson3203 well i tested negative
I haven’t smoked in nearly three months yet I’m still testing positive with the urine tests how long till I’m negative do u think ,I was a heavy smoker for nearly thirty years
I have a full video on this
Green tea lemon water 🍉 clean asap go to sauna
Each week halves the amount in your system. What level are you currently at ?
It took me just over 3 months to get clean I was dabbing and that’s way more potent.
Gonna be at least five or six months.
This is a complete waste of time. Carriers will never preform a swab test for the industry. It’s going to be urine and hair and that’s that. Like many people have stated the insurance companies will be the determining factor here. That is how it is with everything and it will never change. So us discussing this is pointless. Look how it is now hair testing is not even an approved procedure from the FMCSA and yet here we are. You will always be able to drink the night before you get on duty and nothing will ever happen to you. This and being exempt from the Federal Labor Standards Act we will always be considered second class citizens. We will always be dictated on what we can and cannot do on our off time. It will never change there are way to many organizations like ATA that have politicians in their pockets and bank roll campaigns it will never change
Gimmie a break might as well quit marijuana
This drug test doesn’t seem accurate at all if u can be around ppl smoking in a car and test positive if you are not smoking🤷🏾 why are we still testing for weed in 2024
Don't worry so much about DNA. It's just a quick swab of the mouth and the results come in in around 15 minutes. Just a test to let them know if you are currently impaired.
They already have your DNA
Smoke through your nose 😅
In other words you still can’t smoke.
Eat an edible
Just Say No,,,, LoL