these were some close matches. Westballz Falco and Leffen's fox are looking pretty even in skill but the issue is Westballz consistency. He has insane tech skill but if he could just pull it out every match he would be even farther up there.
No shit mangos commentary is the highest level there is. You can hear how good he is just from how he talks about the game while it all happens so fast. it's the fucking best to listen to
+Hideo Kuze Two reasons for this: 1) M2K has more fans and Leffen is often seen as the villain; and 2) M2K's chaingrabs lead to stylish zero-to-death Ken combo, whereas Leffen's usually just lead to up-smash.
I'm so high I got up and made a sandwich and smoked a bowl and got cookies and was waiting for the intermission to end, but it wasn't an intermission. It was over.
Press 2 if you knew Leffen would kick his ass. Not hating on Westballz, he's actually one of my favorite players, but there really wasn't much room for doubt.
First game. I can't breathe jesus christ, I avoided this set because i expected Leffen to just out-simple Westballz patented goofy pressure but shit that was close
"westballz should've won." God some of you guys have scrubby mentalities. He lost... get over it. Leffen capitalized on West's mistakes and that's what happens when you screw up at the highest level. Westballz is fun to watch, I get it but he's gotta clean up a few things.
Vudoo13 Exactly. Honestly, only if Westballz could overcome his incosistency and be more like Armada in that regard, I believe very few would be able to stop him. It could easily make him one of the so-called "Gods", probably deserving a spot right behind Armada and PPMD. As most Top 20 players say, "the gap is trimming down closer and closer..." But, for now, we all can't deny it's only Westballz' fault that he lost. As much as I was cheering for him, had he deserved it, he would most likely have won that set, but that was not the case.
XKphantomXK Nor any of the other so-called "Gods", with the only technical exception being Mew2King. "Technical", because while he was there (and took 2nd place), he hasn't trained Melee for a long time, because, as said in his interview, he can't. His hands hurt. And it really was easy to see he wasn't on his best shape. Quite a let-down, considering it's the SMASH Con and all. =| Overall it was much, much smaller than EVO 2015, too (although that's to be expected).
God... I love watching Westballz combo style. but I hate how he never capitalizes. he doesnt know how to finish people. only extend combos. he needs the learn to combo up to 80% and then knock his opponents out to set up for edgeguard situations. when he doesnt get early KOs or under 100% kills Westballz always loses. Its annoying when he doesnt d-smash/f-smash etc. its like he only knows how to shine,d-air.. til 150%..
Ramon Castillo Chaingrab on spacies isn't as easy as it looks bro. Can you pull it off yourself? Doubt it. Cheap is a very scrubby word... and scrubs = bad.
lolmasn69 Getting grabs is easy again low/mid level players, but the better you get the less relevant wobbling becomes. You know they're fishing for a grab perpetually, so just avoid getting grabbed. Anytime you grabbed and wobbled it's your fault. At a higher level it's not that big a deal either because top players have the touch of death with their punish game anyway
10:10
some dude in the crowd lost a bet lol
Dr. Mel I know those three guys too, we have a group chat and he was complaining about how everybody saw him lose his money
@@dylanryan2260 hahaha
why tf did I bet on westballz what was i thinking
3:00 mango talks for like 30 seconds straight then 3:30 scar blurts out "PHANTOM SHINE!!!!"
"I gotta have a talk with him."
-Mango
Mango's commentary is really enjoyable. He knows so much about this game, mix that with his goofy attitude and you get an awesome commentary
LOL at the end there "do you think Westballs knows that yoshi's isn't a good stage?"
"No, I gotta go talk to him"
mang0 is the best commentator
Scar cant keep up with Mango lmao
+JamesIsMyNamo2 PHANTOM SHINE!
mango's commentary really makes you realize just how much is going on in this game
is it me or has mang0 gotten much better at commentating?
8lkerb He's been like this from what I remember
8lkerb He's always been great from what I remember? I never thought of him as a bad one.
it's from his channel, he commentates and analyzes matches, so in a way it's practice.
+8lkerb its cuz he does twitch now so he's used to doing commentary and talking to the internet lol
+8lkerb I don't like how he keeps calling this "scrubby" or whatnot but
holy shit mango is such a good commentator. really informative
these were some close matches. Westballz Falco and Leffen's fox are looking pretty even in skill but the issue is Westballz consistency. He has insane tech skill but if he could just pull it out every match he would be even farther up there.
Likerhater3 No doubt about that. WestBallz when consistently good is absolutely insane. Completely another category of player and level.
Agree. He did a huge mistake when he missed a wavedash on the first match at 03:02. But, he's amazing and love his Falco!
so he's the gohan of melee?
first game final stock: mango's voice be getting louder every move tossed out lol
"Leffen has no soul" Lmao XD
"There was a lot of mom's spaghetti."
No shit mangos commentary is the highest level there is. You can hear how good he is just from how he talks about the game while it all happens so fast. it's the fucking best to listen to
Great set, and great commentating from Mango with all his knowledge and experience.
What an incredible set. These two players are so much fun to watch, incredible levels of skill and speed
I literally couldnt breathe that whole first round lol
Such a great example of the caveats of the matchup. Do not get shined by the falco if you are fox, and do not get grabbed by the fox if you are falco.
9:23 "Leffen doesn't care about the fans" mang0 2015 xD
Holy shit this is wayyyy better than the new Smash. Oh my god
9:33 the irl Westballz mind games.
mango actually does amazing play-by-play commentary
7:01 Leffen's face when he realized that the cloud saved him xD... so surprised
Dude mangos commentary is godlike. Holy fuck. Its like he calls everything and hes so good hes right all the time.
"omg fuckin leffin all he did wuz chain grabbed so cheap!"
So M2K's chaingrabbing isn't cheap?
People, make up your mind.
+Bizz nobody is saying m2k's chain grabbing isn't cheap lol
+ismelljello But everyone cheers for M2K's chain grabs.
+Hideo Kuze Two reasons for this: 1) M2K has more fans and Leffen is often seen as the villain; and 2) M2K's chaingrabs lead to stylish zero-to-death Ken combo, whereas Leffen's usually just lead to up-smash.
Mang0 is the goat of commentary, he is hype and play by play at same time.
"I thought he was going to do another one for the fans but Leffen doesn't care about the fans."
-Mango 2015
Did this match have the triple commentary but mang0 just take all the commentary from toph?
NeffJeff95 I don't think toph was there at this point
+longshotgod I'm going to say it straight up, Toph's commentary sucks. Mango here is awesome, and Scar is always good :)
one of the sickest game 1 I've ever seen holy shit
damn mangos actually an amazing commentator if he takes it seriously.
mang0=GOAT commentator.
I'm so high I got up and made a sandwich and smoked a bowl and got cookies and was waiting for the intermission to end, but it wasn't an intermission. It was over.
I like it how I had to change my pants several times.
Press 1 if you think Westballz should've won
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Press 2 if you knew Leffen would kick his ass.
Not hating on Westballz, he's actually one of my favorite players, but there really wasn't much room for doubt.
+ChillTerumi 2
NishiTheNinja 1
ChillTerumi Westballz winning wasnt out of the question, he had some close games. Besides Westballz has 3-0'd Mang0 and just beat him several times.
If you ask me what match is closer to a 20XX / TAS level, I'll link you this.Sorry for Mango or Armada.
Wes definitely should've had both of those FD games.
"but leffen has no soul"lol I love mango as a commentator!
That... First... Game...
I like Mango's commentaries
9:30 "Leffen though, has no soul"
I love mang0
This was the closest 3-0 in history
"Leffen though has no soul" -Mang0
This is a sick match, also agree with people in the comments mango commentating was great
First game. I can't breathe jesus christ, I avoided this set because i expected Leffen to just out-simple Westballz patented goofy pressure but shit that was close
3:07 - 4:20 for a nailbiter
From 3:24, watch at half speed. Very intense.
0:13
"yo did he just walk up slowly and attempt to jab?"
"Noooooo the scuby foward b!"lmao xD
Love this rivalry
"Bombs over BAGHDAAAD" lmao!
westballz why?!?! so damn close that first game
Great set.
Shut up idiot
Football Is Life Lol sportsball players
***** what bitch at least it's better than sitting in front of a pc all day and getting fat
Football Is Life There's no PC here. There's no fat player here. How is sportsball better?
Football Is Life Bro get a fucking life. All you do is play sportsball and bitch about people on TH-cam.
holy fuck i'm sweating after that first game
Mango is extremely good at casting
Westballz always starts strong and fades. He chokes on last stock so much.
This was west balls tournament smh the little things
*PHANTOM SHINE*
UNDERRATED COMMENT
Wes had his jump last stock first game, I know this because scar didn't see it
I love westballz so much
7:46 noise?
Mang0 hates my man Leffen so much xD
Every commentary is biased LOL
"westballz should've won." God some of you guys have scrubby mentalities. He lost... get over it. Leffen capitalized on West's mistakes and that's what happens when you screw up at the highest level. Westballz is fun to watch, I get it but he's gotta clean up a few things.
Vudoo13 As a Hungrybox fan, I can in no way say Hungrybox "should've won" at 3vo with a straight face.
Vudoo13 westballz shouldve won
Vudoo13 Exactly. Honestly, only if Westballz could overcome his incosistency and be more like Armada in that regard, I believe very few would be able to stop him. It could easily make him one of the so-called "Gods", probably deserving a spot right behind Armada and PPMD.
As most Top 20 players say, "the gap is trimming down closer and closer..."
But, for now, we all can't deny it's only Westballz' fault that he lost. As much as I was cheering for him, had he deserved it, he would most likely have won that set, but that was not the case.
Vudoo13 He should've won but I know why he didn't. Those words aren't always said by people who are just blind crazed fans.
Did Mang0 not participate at smash con?
He didn't
XKphantomXK Nor any of the other so-called "Gods", with the only technical exception being Mew2King. "Technical", because while he was there (and took 2nd place), he hasn't trained Melee for a long time, because, as said in his interview, he can't. His hands hurt. And it really was easy to see he wasn't on his best shape.
Quite a let-down, considering it's the SMASH Con and all. =| Overall it was much, much smaller than EVO 2015, too (although that's to be expected).
2:37 at .5 speed is damn funny haha
"Leffen though has no soul"
crazy fucking match b. what.
Dayum that griiilll at end. mmmm
do they play on lightning mode
alejandro personett no
westballz se preocupaba mas por hacer un combo que por quitarle la stock...
hello
First game was god-tier shit.
I gotta have a talk with him lmao
My old fav player vs me new fav player
Plus old main vs new main
Oh man
"leffen has no soul"
Mango is hilarious
THE SCRUBBIEST FORWARD B
4:26............Axe, wtf are you doing bro. There are better things man.
leffen is a fucking god.
God... I love watching Westballz combo style. but I hate how he never capitalizes. he doesnt know how to finish people. only extend combos. he needs the learn to combo up to 80% and then knock his opponents out to set up for edgeguard situations. when he doesnt get early KOs or under 100% kills Westballz always loses. Its annoying when he doesnt d-smash/f-smash etc. its like he only knows how to shine,d-air.. til 150%..
Erectile dysfunction
when west was good
Mango has a cute voice
3-0 just deal with it
mang0 so better at the match up. in a live comment he finds all of West mistakes.
+Fynmorph He's lost to weston a lot more than leffen has
he also plays Wes a lot more than Leffen.
Still pretty sure that the percentage wise, Leffen's has a higher win rate than Mango from 2014 (2015 maybe?) and onwards
scrubby forward b's errywhere
that is gay leffen ... playing well
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Leffen is so cheap with those Chain-grabs.
Ramon Castillo
Chaingrab on spacies isn't as easy as it looks bro. Can you pull it off yourself? Doubt it. Cheap is a very scrubby word... and scrubs = bad.
Ramon Castillo The only mechanic that is "cheap" in melee is IC's wobbles. Very annoying to watch and play versus.
Setting up the wobble is also harder than it looks. If you don't get grabbed, you can't get wobbled...
DylanKeywizRad nah its super easy once you get the hang of it
lolmasn69 Getting grabs is easy again low/mid level players, but the better you get the less relevant wobbling becomes. You know they're fishing for a grab perpetually, so just avoid getting grabbed. Anytime you grabbed and wobbled it's your fault. At a higher level it's not that big a deal either because top players have the touch of death with their punish game anyway
Mango really considering retirement and commentating lol