Been in the business 30 years, Fantastic idea, You would think by now flooring manufacturers would come up with some kind of spline application, appreciate all the content keep doing what you do
I'm just a hack, no professional experience, but to turn my tongue and grove around, I just found a masonite panel with the same thickness as the tongue, cut it twice the width of the tongue and glued it into the grove of the piece I was turning. Turns a board into a double tongued board. They should just make these.
^^ This is the solution, It literally says to do this on the box. “I’d the joint becomes damaged or you need to change directions use PVA glue” And PVA glue is listed in the “tools” section for that reason. Great idea using the tape!
The only question I would have is wood glue sets up very hard and rigid. That laminate is going to have a little spring in it when you walk across. I know from my experience with hardwood floors and wood glue I have not had very good luck in traffic areas. Usually just makes a cracking sound walking across it until it all breaks up. would almost think the cool glide would be just enough to hold that all together. Never done this with laminate but have done it with LVP a couple times and works great. Another good trick to have an installer’s bag. Love your commitment to helping other installers to become better keep up the good work.
Thanks for your help My laminate floor was just installed Unfortunately, they put it in the wrong direction . Hopefully they can reverse this Please let me know what you think
How would you do the same for a situation where the already laid floor is perpendicular to the opening and you want to run the next room in the other direction? Namely a "T" joint. I guess the real question is how would you cut the plank ends to be even with the new full length piece? and then do the glue trick.
I think I seen that done a few time. Good job. Two reasons I do not use wood glue, but I use super glue. One, is the wood glue might bake and loose strength when running the kool glide over it. The other reason is, wood glue might and can get down on the kool glide tape and cause it to fail. With super glue you do not have the mess, it sets up fast. and that holds the boards level and tight. I know you were filming, but so it can be a one person job I kneel on the board when doing it.
Don’t have that melting machine . Wonder if A layer of parchment paper on floor and generous layer of Pl underneath the boards would be good enough to hold pcs. together , don’t walk on it for a day? ( the parchment paper would keep it a floating floor)
One advise same idea as you did but instead butting against with just glue cut a groove on both jointing edge and use ca glue to glue a mdf spline 1/4 inch , second advise if you have a biscuit jointer then cut slots and glue them with biscuits, that way it ensures there will be no snapping when the floor expands , because mdf has shrinkage rating not sure the number but there is
I am not going to lie. The seam looks darker. I dont know if it is because we know you switched it. Or if it looks better in person. But, i can see a darker line then the rest of them. But i like the concept of switching it. Comes in handy
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Well, I have already tried doing that and, for me, it seems more difficult getting it to click together than doing it the standard way. Also, I'm leery of smacking the female side with the tapping block...seems to slip/slide off more and makes me think I'm going to break it. Am I missing something?
@@joebloe5336 with vinyl plank it’s all about getting the proper angle on the board you are trying to connect, rather it be up or down once you get the angle right and figured out it will click in really easily and that goes for all vinyl plank that I’ve ever dealt with, if you’re working at frontwards or backwards either way it’s still has to have the proper angle so just keep trying my friend is all I can say
Hat if, after removing the tongues and making sure the seam looks ok, I glue the whole plank to the floor? I have wood floor. Would that be a bad idea? I know it goes against the “floating”‘concept of floating floor but… any thoughts?
Most people would face nail it after ripping the groove off. I see nothing wrong with trying this method instead so as not to have to hide nail holes.if it ever fails I can just face nail and do it the hard way.If it stays good then this is indeed a better method. Thank you for sharing.
Just curious, isn't it easier and quicker to just continue installing the boards backwards? I mean me personally I can install laminate or lvt just was efficient either way.
If we did this method we would get thrown off the job site. Creative way to go about it though. On our side of the world we are obligated to break each room and join with a cover strip. Easy to change direction then. Our environments are not climate controlled and subject to variable expansion from one room to the next.
Flooring Africa Gotcha, I install whole house as of this stuff with no transition strips except for when it joins ceramic tile or carpet, I never break it in doorways to turn it around
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Thanks for the quick response. The manufacturer says it does not back lay so I guess I will turn it. I do not want the transitions.
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I thought I would try that first with some scrap cut-offs and then turn it if it is too hard. It is click and go flooring, so it seems like it would.
@@gusgelpi3722 Yeah if there is any problems with that it will be with the end joints definitely not the traditional side joints, so I would practice with a few full boards
I need to change directions like this going into a concrete floor room I was thinking about doing the same thing but using an adhesive to glue to the concrete subfloor?? What do you think?
This type of flooring is meant to be installed in a particular direction. If you have multiple rooms and do not want to use transitions, you may need to install an area of the floor in the opposite direction than what you did initially. So, if you reverse one row of the flooring, you can simply resume laying the floor in the proper direction in the new room (properly inserting the "male" end of the plank into the "female" end instead of the opposite
You are cutting the door jamb. The door assemble is support by the jamb, therefore what is supporting the door unit after the jambs are completely cut?
If you're a hack,then I'm a hack. I'm going to use you're method. It would be nice if the manufacturer could sell a router bit to match the groove profile
Been in the business 30 years, Fantastic idea, You would think by now flooring manufacturers would come up with some kind of spline application, appreciate all the content keep doing what you do
Michael Ferguson Yeah like a double tongue method or something would be awesome
I'm just a hack, no professional experience, but to turn my tongue and grove around, I just found a masonite panel with the same thickness as the tongue, cut it twice the width of the tongue and glued it into the grove of the piece I was turning. Turns a board into a double tongued board. They should just make these.
Yes, why don't the manufactures make reverse planks that have double tongue? It is a very common need.
Because they want us to waste as much as possible
^^ This is the solution, It literally says to do this on the box. “I’d the joint becomes damaged or you need to change directions use PVA glue”
And PVA glue is listed in the “tools” section for that reason.
Great idea using the tape!
Beautifully done, really great job thank you so much for sharing your skill with us.
You’re welcome
The only question I would have is wood glue sets up very hard and rigid. That laminate is going to have a little spring in it when you walk across. I know from my experience with hardwood floors and wood glue I have not had very good luck in traffic areas. Usually just makes a cracking sound walking across it until it all breaks up. would almost think the cool glide would be just enough to hold that all together. Never done this with laminate but have done it with LVP a couple times and works great. Another good trick to have an installer’s bag. Love your commitment to helping other installers to become better keep up the good work.
John Steier Thank you sir, not sure what you mean by installers bag
Thanks for your help
My laminate floor was just installed
Unfortunately, they put it in the wrong direction . Hopefully they can reverse this
Please let me know what you think
Could you do the same process if I'm using vinyl flooring planks??
How would you do the same for a situation where the already laid floor is perpendicular to the opening and you want to run the next room in the other direction? Namely a "T" joint. I guess the real question is how would you cut the plank ends to be even with the new full length piece? and then do the glue trick.
I think I seen that done a few time. Good job. Two reasons I do not use wood glue, but I use super glue. One, is the wood glue might bake and loose strength when running the kool glide over it. The other reason is, wood glue might and can get down on the kool glide tape and cause it to fail. With super glue you do not have the mess, it sets up fast. and that holds the boards level and tight. I know you were filming, but so it can be a one person job I kneel on the board when doing it.
Roland Thompson Thank you sir and I always value your opinion’s and information
Great video, so helpful, thank-you so much for posting this!!! Fantastic ideas!!
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Don’t have that melting machine . Wonder if A layer of parchment paper on floor and generous layer of Pl underneath the boards would be good enough to hold pcs. together , don’t walk on it for a day? ( the parchment paper would keep it a floating floor)
One advise same idea as you did but instead butting against with just glue cut a groove on both jointing edge and use ca glue to glue a mdf spline 1/4 inch , second advise if you have a biscuit jointer then cut slots and glue them with biscuits, that way it ensures there will be no snapping when the floor expands , because mdf has shrinkage rating not sure the number but there is
I am not going to lie. The seam looks darker. I dont know if it is because we know you switched it. Or if it looks better in person. But, i can see a darker line then the rest of them. But i like the concept of switching it. Comes in handy
frijolito2123 because I went over them with a wet rag to clean the glue off and the rest of the floor was dusty
Can you do this trick with Lowe's Smartcore Ultra vinyl planking? If so, what kind of glue? Thanks
No need to reverse vinyl plank, you can just work it backwards
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Well, I have already tried doing that and, for me, it seems more difficult getting it to click together than doing it the standard way. Also, I'm leery of smacking the female side with the tapping block...seems to slip/slide off more and makes me think I'm going to break it. Am I missing something?
@@joebloe5336 with vinyl plank it’s all about getting the proper angle on the board you are trying to connect, rather it be up or down once you get the angle right and figured out it will click in really easily and that goes for all vinyl plank that I’ve ever dealt with, if you’re working at frontwards or backwards either way it’s still has to have the proper angle so just keep trying my friend is all I can say
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Thank you brother
Hat if, after removing the tongues and making sure the seam looks ok, I glue the whole plank to the floor? I have wood floor. Would that be a bad idea? I know it goes against the “floating”‘concept of floating floor but… any thoughts?
Most people would face nail it after ripping the groove off.
I see nothing wrong with trying this method instead so as not to have to hide nail holes.if it ever fails I can just face nail and do it the hard way.If it stays good then this is indeed a better method.
Thank you for sharing.
You’re welcome, a floating floor should never be nailed
Just curious, isn't it easier and quicker to just continue installing the boards backwards? I mean me personally I can install laminate or lvt just was efficient either way.
Me too
Brandon Lagalo Most of it I can do, this Mannington product is kind of a pain in the butt to do that with
@@FloorsbySouthernboys agree that product in 12 mil is a pain. Laminate is almost dead but I like the idea. Nice work
@@jakeshannon5887 👍thank you
Will this work on pergo?
Did you reverse the laminate to be able to work from the other side of it? Or is there another reason? The floor looks great BTW.
If we did this method we would get thrown off the job site. Creative way to go about it though.
On our side of the world we are obligated to break each room and join with a cover strip. Easy to change direction then. Our environments are not climate controlled and subject to variable expansion from one room to the next.
Flooring Africa Gotcha, I install whole house as of this stuff with no transition strips except for when it joins ceramic tile or carpet, I never break it in doorways to turn it around
This is great. Much better than using an ugly transition strip!
Yes sir, I agree
Have you ever worked with Castle collection SPC? If so, would you back lay it or turn it? - Thanks
Sorry I have not
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Thanks for the quick response. The manufacturer says it does not back lay so I guess I will turn it. I do not want the transitions.
@@gusgelpi3722 I’ve never seen a product yet that is not able to be worked backwards, I’m sure it can be done
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I thought I would try that first with some scrap cut-offs and then turn it if it is too hard. It is click and go flooring, so it seems like it would.
@@gusgelpi3722 Yeah if there is any problems with that it will be with the end joints definitely not the traditional side joints, so I would practice with a few full boards
I need to change directions like this going into a concrete floor room I was thinking about doing the same thing but using an adhesive to glue to the concrete subfloor?? What do you think?
No, its a floating floor.
Excellent video!
Gold Coast Flooring | Carpet & Tile Care Thank you Nick
Can someone explain to me what’s the point of turning it around? Does it make installing easier?
This type of flooring is meant to be installed in a particular direction. If you have multiple rooms and do not want to use transitions, you may need to install an area of the floor in the opposite direction than what you did initially. So, if you reverse one row of the flooring, you can simply resume laying the floor in the proper direction in the new room (properly inserting the "male" end of the plank into the "female" end instead of the opposite
Can you also do that with coretec?
Clint Emerson yes
What tape do you use for carpet?
Andrew Goode power hold
FloorsbySouthernboys for the kool glide?
Andrew Goode Premium coated
FloorsbySouthernboys have you ever tried the premium uncoated before?
Andrew Goode No sir
Why wouldn't you change the battery in the smoke detector?
Never thought about it, you hear that quite often in new houses
Why do your seams look like they are not seated ?
Might just be how it looks on video. I assure you they are.
Awesome. Kool glide is going to love you, your going to have wood guys going to go buy these now lol.
CarpetMan They are definitely awesome
Can you do this with vynil flooring life proof?
Great idea !
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I thought you were going to install them in reverse.... it can be done.
Yes sir I’ll do quite often, a lot of people have problems with this Mannington laminate going backwards so that was the purpose of the video
good point, should be titled: how not to reverse laminate
excellent. Thank you
You’re welcome
Is there a way of doing something like this with vinyl plank?
Kelton Yingst Absolutely
FloorsbySouthernboys what glue would you recommend for vinyl. I’ve always back laid but have a house that has a funky layout
Kelton Yingst super glue
It's an idea I had at work but was to embarrassed to bring up.
You are cutting the door jamb. The door assemble is support by the jamb, therefore what is supporting the door unit after the jambs are completely cut?
Door jambs are nailed or screwed to the framing
Awesome video no BS
Looks good
Thank you
Jerrid Hawkins
EXCELLENT. TRICK
Super Slick Tricks Thank you sir
GAME CHANGER !!!
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That will crack I would have used pl under piece
Looks great, see I told you you'd fall in love with the Kool glide. Your old iron will end up taking the back shelf and collect dust! 😁
shawn moore definitely love it 😍
Sounds like you need to add a cool glide affiliate link to your video
Rob Nelson That would be nice, I sure do promote them enough
I think im going to do this tbh
Thank you. You may have just saved my sanity.
You just voided the customers warranty. And you filmed it, so the rep will have proof
... I just checked all my smoke detectors.
Every door gets a T lol
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If you're a hack,then I'm a hack. I'm going to use you're method. It would be nice if the manufacturer could sell a router bit to match the groove profile
But why? Why not map out so you don't have to back lay or reverse
I can see a gap between two materials clearly!!