You do realize that it's rather retarded to have tons of RAM and then worry about it being used. All current OS's do a good job of managing RAM now, and they have for some time. You're still stuck on old thinking.
I've been a developer for 20 years. There was a time that we looked forward to our discs coming in from the msdn subscription so we could check out all the new wonderful things Microsoft was releasing. Then, in the early part of oughts, ot became more of a sense of dread, like "what did they screw up now?"
@Joe Al It's kinda useful, especially if you are reading something and you have to go to another pc or you have to read it on your phone or anothe pc, you can press on the three dots and click "send tab to..." and you can select the device.. it's great becaue I can use the tower at the university as a second monitor to send the exercise that I'm doing on my laptop while keep coding or splitting the screen... PS: on android the send tab thing works with a push notification so you can tap it and open it with crome that is much better on android... My English is ugly, I know :-P
@@TheRealFobican Firefox is more private even than an average non-Chrome browser - look at the inbuild Privacy Protection feature which blocks tracking cookies and scripts.
firefox, while not my favorite, is my most used browser, mainly because of that new thing websites do where they send you verification e-mails every time you try to sign in from a new ip, if that shit wheren't a thing i'd use tor for everything.
@@nicholashoi3155 it's too late, once your firefox is infected with bing, the only way to get rid of it is to completely uninstall your browser. i have been there too, that is why i have, at minimum, two browsers so i still have all my bookmarks and shit saved somewhere.
In the year of 2019, I had to go through some education-stuff as part of my job (in retail), which included a flash-like type game which would not run in chrome, firefox or even Edge. Edge suggested "You could try using IE, that might work" (no seriously, it did suggest this), and after having scoured through some obscure basement in the control panel looking for the switch to enable the damn browser, I was finally able to run this thing that was required as part of my training. I think I spent like 30 minutes just finding a way to run that game.
@@tomgjeka7028 To be serious (I know OP meant to be a joke), IE even now still works for the most part and very light. Though because of its age and no improvements, some sites are started to look so broken, old and simply being blocked by their web admin and force to use more modern browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Opera). Edge replaced IE for a long time, but sadly it suffered from lack of features and bugs on its early release. Only recently that Edge is actually a very good alternative web browser which is lightweight, fast and some nice features like pen support which is handy if you have tablet with pen support. Scrolling performance is addicting too that it's baffling that other browsers still don't get it. But Edge will turn into another Chromium fork since recently they announce that they are switching web browser engine and technologies in favor of Chromium, abandoning EdgeHTML. One benefit of this is that Microsoft will now contribute code to Chromium and hopefully fixes Chromium issues like RAM hog, scrolling performance, better font rendering, better touch and pen support, and faster JavaScript execution.
You're sugarcoating what MS did with IE. It wasn't just sleeping on their hands, they were actively trying to sabotage web standards, and abused their market dominance... by "improving" (breaking) web standards, or misimplementing them so pages didn't render properly in other browsers. Also, remember the antitrust cases of the late 90's, how they tried to leverage their desktop OS dominance to the same end! The "browser wars", etc. They made web development hell for developers, who then couldn't wait to ditch it. They tried to control Java (applets were the first attempts at dynamic web) as well, and when they couldn't, they tried to crush it with IE-only ActiveX (COM), and later .NET. The same with javascript... Also, javascript was created by netscape (which later became mozilla browser, which became Firefox..) - they tried to change it so that it worked differently in IE. Javascript is required for AJAX.. but javascript could do dynamic content before that; point is, IE wasn't the first. Microsoft's philosophy has always been: *Embrace, Extend, Exterminate!* - they produce technology more for profit than to produce the best tech possible. Free and Open Source Software (FLOSS) is becoming more mainstream, which is why MS is warming up to it (after decades of trying to eradicate it).. Windows will follow the same trajectory and eventually become irrelevant... since their core philosophy remains to be profit first. It's the same reason Commodore and Amiga, and many other huge tech companies went extinct. Their incumbency is a mere fluke side effect of the freakish tech boom of the last couple of decades.
True but for Windows to die down it will take decades, maybe even multiple decades. The numbers of people using Windows for private use or business/work is just huge. The only market where Microsoft is not really strong is Server market. Sure they have Win.Server 20XX but big companies still prefer Red Hat or any other Linux or Unix based platform.
@@malisa71 It has already been decades... And the server market isn't the only place MS isn't strong... They missed the mobile bandwagon (Android is linux-based, and is also now more popular than iOS (same reasoning goes for Apple, they're even worse)) - how long did it take for Blackberry to overtake Nokia? Then iPhone overtook Blackberry, then Android overtook iPhone. All within 1 and 1/2 decade. Remember IExplorer once had 90% of the market. It was lost within a decade! Windows is just an OS after all, just software... and linux and almost everything on it is free software... that runs on anything, even virtualized inside windows, or dual booted next to it. It's faster, less bloated, more secure, more robust, open source, standards based... it makes it's own case. It just doesn't have MS or Apple's marketing dept. or questionable business tactics. They've also lost the web: cloud/virtualization space, search engines, online services, etc. PS4 is doubling XBox One sales... The last bastion holding back the tides of mass migration to linux has been desktop gaming.. but that's changing quickly, since Steam started targeting linux; other projects followed suit; and mobile gaming has made it a multi-platform contest. Companies' desktop OS's are usually determined by the IT department or CTO, not the general users. The users generally don't know or care what OS they use, and need tech support for even the simplest problems. Once you get the IT department guys, you've got the company - IT guys tend to be gamers too. And users tend to use at home what they use at work - this is why MS-DOS got big in the 80's & 90's, and then windows.
@@youngfeet How so? Didn't chrome push the adoption of web standards? Chromium, the base of chrome, is open-source. What exactly are you talking about?
ruok? (forgive any presumption..) Who are you talking about? It seems as if you might be talking about people in the third person, as if they're not in the room. Or are we pretending that comments aren't made by real people, or.. what? Is 'millennial' just a descriptor we throw out to automatically dismiss opinions that... conflict with ours... what? Should we accept that the past is some position that millennials necessarily idolize? Why would you think that that is typical? Too many questions... I'm trying to be coherent. Sorry for the gallup of questions. It's saturday night... not too sober.
Firefox is still the best imo, I love how I could open hundred of tabs and scroll through them easily, no other browser had this feature afaik Opera is close second with its build in proxy
I'm not sure about "scroll through them easily." I use and like Firefox, but I do think scrolling feels choppy sometimes. Not sure if 144Hz has anything to do with it (I found a few posts claiming it was related). Good thing is there are like two-dozen scrolling related variables you can modify in about:config, so I copied someone's settings and it feels better now.
Still the best? Or do you mean the best again? While Firefox was better than Internet Explorer, there was a time when it was kinda slow and ate up RAM (late 2000's). That is why the masses switched to Chrome around that time. I don't use Firefox these days so it may be in fact the best again. But there was a time it wasn't.
Yeah that's true, I do use chrome though, mostly, it's easy with chrome to sync with my other devices especially since I'm an Android user. Sometimes I feel chrome is a jail. And google sites like TH-cam runs smoothly in chrome than in Firefox.
@@abhaymhatre291 yea, but unfortunately Chrome eat too much ram, as someone that open hundreds of tabs and other apps as well Chrome is just not good as my daily driver, I do have like 6 different browsers just in case but I mainly use fox and opera, and I guess torch for build in torrent The ability to scroll through tabs is just too good for me, other browser tabs will get too small to read if I open more than 20 tabs at once
@@zeromailss Why would anyone need hundreds of tabs? I hear people say this all the time and it makes no sense to me. Just close tabs when you're done with them, or bookmark them if you think you'll need it later. I can't stand it when the tabs get small and I can't read them, or when some start to disappear and you have to "scroll" with the arrow.
@isaacsrandomvideos667 I think in recent months, if you try opening Internet Explorer at least in win 10, it'll open edge. It may have opened ie a couple years ago when you made your comment, but not now.
I've been using Opera since 2004 or so. So many features that are a given on modern internet browsers were born here. I'm sad it never got as popular as it deserves.
I felt like I was scrolling for so long to find another comment from an Opera user. I said in my comment that I switched about a year ago and I can never go back to anything now.
It's kinda ironic I used opera back in my Java Nokia phones because the built in browser in Nokia phones. In fact, I know opera in my Nokia phones, I shocked when there is Opera in Windows.
@@nekdo_kavc that's incredibly inefficient, considering that it would take longer to download firefox via chrome than firefox via internet explorer. also chrome will use more space of your hard disk so you have to uninstall it as well
Just started using the latest edge as I had gotten away from computers in general for a few years (android filled that gap.) Great video explaining how bad things had gotten. It's amazing how all the brains at big companies can follow bad strategies. Good to see that they've gotten back on track and are leading instead of following.
I'm using edge, it works just fine. Oh and that business practice of not allowing you to uninstall IE. Funny how I think Microsoft lost a court case in EU about that but Google and Apple do the exact same thing today and get away with it.
Microsoft is considered a monopoly. Apple's market share has never really been that big, and same goes for google. Even today Microsoft still has nearly 90% of the desktop marketshare with apple making up just under 10%. When you are big, you have to play by rules that not everyone else has to. Otherwise competition might never be established.
Microsoft wasn't asleep, they were intentionally trying to hold back web progress. Netscape Navigator was a threat to Microsoft because it broke Microsoft's Win32 lock-in with portable web applications. Microsoft saw this coming and did everything in their power to divert or replace Netscape. Thus IE evolved quickly, but under the guise of "open standards" that Microsoft drove. This veneer of openness forced Netscape away from their Java/Javascript combo platform that threatened to give us Web 2.0 style applications back in the late 90's. Once Microsoft was successful in eliminating Netscape (and don't get me wrong, IE5 was a very good browser for its time!), they intentionally shut down advancement of their browser technology. Why? Because they didn't want to undermine their Win32 lock-in themselves. Thus IE ceased even meeting the current standards that Microsoft had pushed through. This was ultimately Microsoft's undoing as Firefox played Microsoft's game. Firefox met the standards already in place and pushed for the standards to be further enhanced. Microsoft wouldn't play ball, resulting in the W3C dragging its feet on any serious updates to HTML 4. Not to be deterred, the Mozilla Foundation, Opera, Google, and Apple came together to found the WHATWG standards body to define HTML 5. They left an open invitation to Microsoft, but guess who wasn't going to play this consortium's game? Well, that is, until they did. I still remember when Microsoft posted their first comment to the WHATWG mailing list. No behind the scenes negotiation or acceptance, they just showed up and started participating. My sense is that Microsoft was going to try the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish plan yet again. But by then Chrome had hit the scene and the combined weight of Chrome, FireFox, Safari, and Opera became a force to be reckoned with. While online campaigns to have websites not support IE any longer were semi-successful, it was ultimately Google's homepage that offered an upgrade to Chrome that killed off IE. Don't feel bad for Microsoft. They did it to themselves. Feel overjoyed that the current CEO Satya Nadella is looking past such crude tactics as Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish toward cooperation and more honest competition. At least for now...
What do you mean by Java/JavaScript ? Last time I checked they are not the same and not even close. (I'm a java programmer and ignore my profile picture lmao cba to change it).
JavaScript didn’t get its name as just a marketing stunt. Netscape intended JavaScript to “script” Java components on web pages. Not just Applets. If you look up the LiveConnect technology you’ll find that you could invoke the JVM from JavaScript without even having an Applet on the page. The reverse was possible as well. A Java component could invoke JavaScript and DOM 0 manipulation to change the page. All this meant that the full library of the JVM was at the browser’s disposal. Many of the things we can do today like AJAX-enabled applications could have been accomplished if Microsoft hasn’t halted Netscape’s progress.
Well, Windows 7 was the users idea for a good version of Windows. Windows 10 is the subscription service Microsoft wanted. They are catering their own needs over ours more than ever.
@@ahmedm6228 Microsoft's last Windows system and was released on July 5th 2015 (I think I got it wrong) and had loads of stuff Windows 7 & 8 can't 1. The Edge browser ofc 2. Microsoft Store (ik Windows 8 and 8.1 has it) 3. Cortana, Microsoft's Assistant 4. Windows Hello face unlock
FF is my daily driver too. I do have to use chrome for watching streams on mixer, due to it being the browser the site works the best on for me. I also use IE for writing comments like this
Microsoft also misjudged its market dominance at the time by ignoring W3C RFC standards and instead trying to force its own proprietary standards. MS failed to get any traction with these proprietary standards and instead got its ar$3 handed to it by Netscape and Chrome. Add IE to a long list of failures due to errors in judgement on market dominance: Skype, Games for Windows Live, Windows Store, Windows phone and the list goes on. UWP is the latest debacle where the old tricks of market dominance coupled with proprietary software is also doomed to fail. Wake up and smell the roses MS. You've not been able to fool anyone for a very long time. Time to create some useful, compelling stuff rather than executing on outdated and failed strategies.
People said: "I don't like IE: Windows forces you to use it. It's a way to get the monopoly for Microsoft. Let's use Chrome instead!" Little did they know.... :'-) PS: I use Firefox, just because it is not connected to a big ass company.
@@poldelepel They also collect and sell your personal information. Nice of them to tell you that though. It's a multi million dollar company., brought in 592 million last year, netted 89 million total. Tell me, do you remember ever. PAYING for firefox? It's a Giant corporation with over a thousand employees.
@@luisalcantara6097 Opera Software, owned by Beijing Kunlun Tech Co., Ltd. (Zhou Yahui), Qifei International Development Co. Limited , and Keeneyes Future Holdings Inc (, hey look, Zhou Yahui again!) If you want something that isn't owned by "Some giant corporation." Look for a spin off project like Palemoon or Midori, or, if your concern is privacy, do the sane thing, and seek out a browser that is focused primarily for privacy, Dooble. Or, do the most sane(?) thing if privacy is REALLY your concern and use the Tor Browser. Bonus points for reliving in 1993 web speeds.
That was exactly why people picked it up. Ignore the lack of security measures, and just get the fastest possible browser.... what could possibly go wrong?
@@Fools_Requiem well take the fastest browser then and go with ff ;). Okay not faster but it uses less ram and this is a win for most guys who use 10+ tabs
Yeah, if we go back to 2009 we'll see a lot of comments along the lines of, "I couldn't stand Firefox's memory leaks and jumped ship to Chrome. Can you believe FF was using 1 GB RAM???" How times change...
It's supposedly just rumors at this point, but it wouldn't shock me. Building a browser around Chromium/Blink would mean not having to maintain the entire browser on their own, and they can push fixes and the like upstream, thus saving on duplication of effort.
Growing up Internet Explorer was all I knew for web browsers. As far as I knew back then that WAS how you accessed the internet, by opening that Internet Explorer icon. I didnt know it was just a browser and that there were other browsers out there until later on. In school, the library and everywhere else I used a computer the Internet Explorer icon was always on the computer and that's what I was taught to use to access the internet. I didnt realize there were so many people that hated it so much until later on. So I dont really understand where all the hate is coming from, I never had a problem with it and I thought that's what everyone was using up until recently. Funny thing is when chrome came out I started using that because it was different and suggested to me to install to my computer at the time and now that's pretty much my go to web browser since then.
3:07 Making it very hard to unninstall. Me: Can i remove IE from modern Windows 10? **Typing "Internet..." in the search bar** Also me: *Uses Manjaro linux
I think the sacrificial death of Internet Explorer and phoenix rebirth of Edge actually worked. I can’t believe how so many of my even somewhat techie friends actually use Edge instead of Mozilla Firefox.
I must be in the minority still using the Internet Explorer. Thank you very much for releasing this video today. I was so happy when I have seen that the IE is finally getting some recognition.
If possible switch to a different browser, such as Edge (also by Microsoft), Firefox or Chrome. I'm pretty sure Internet Explorer is unsupported and using it may lead to security risks.
0:42 *"A lot of IE's problems had their roots in Microsoft's desire not to frustrate its users but rather to innovate"* I would argue that they did succed in innovating because creating the world's worst internet browser requires a lot innovative skill wouldn't you say?
Safari on my phone and Chrome on my computers for me, but I still remember using Internet Explorer back when I was like 5 or 6 on the school computers.
I dont like Chrome's near monolpoy so I have always used Firefox And I don't like the way Google and Yahoo are censoring content There is a new browser called Dissenter!
Old engine had huge performance issues with strong memory leakage. Modern sites were not able to work properly on relatively slow hardware, so users migrated to Chrome and FF, which performed significantly better. I was one of the people who stayed on 12 version for a long time, but only because of Opera's customization potential which had no even approximate equals. Fortunately, it have now. Vivaldi (by old Opera developers) is the only browser for my personal usage now.
I love Edge! I do think it's faster than Chrome and the scrolling is pure bliss, especially on a high refresh rate monitor. I just can't use it because Google services like youtube, drive or gmail is buggy as hell on Edge. I would easily switch over to Edge if Google didn't use monopolizing tactics to force people to use their products/services. So I'm stuck with Firefox for now.
I'm pretty sure Google adds some specific code to these services to make sure they don't function completely on Edge. I'm still holding out with it for now.
During late 90's many websites were indicating that were compatible with internet explorer or netscape navigator. I preferred Netscape Navigator instead of internet explorer until the advent of Windows XP.
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IE still plays a vital role...to download other browsers.
@Marky D You used the browser to download the browser
@Marky D oh
Dats edge now
No, that job is reserved for Edge (and Safari)
sudo apt install firefox
Ahh I still remember back then when my downloads would stop at 99%
Chrome does that sometimes
I forgot about that! That drove me nuts.
Yeah and that was frustrating.
@@circuit10 then download Firefox
@@Reolzomic Firefox might do it too
sad those 3% users were using it only to download chrome
some more only used it to download firefox or opera browser
@@ChloekabanOfficial Chrome sucks anyway...
Im use opera on pc because i like it more than chrome
My 70 years old French teacher still uses Internet Explorer lol
Chrome did not exist in 2003
I used to call it "Internet Exploder" when i used it a long time ago :D
ha
Best comment I've seen all day! XD
XD
lol
What do you mean used to :o
;)
Chrome was fast. Until i realize my RAM usage.
Get an OP PC, 16GB of ram, you will be rocking strong forever.
Chrome has always been a resource hog.
You do realize that it's rather retarded to have tons of RAM and then worry about it being used. All current OS's do a good job of managing RAM now, and they have for some time. You're still stuck on old thinking.
Use opera browser
Why do you think it is so fast? What, were you using that ram for something? Unused RAM is wasted ram.
So if they own 95 percent of the market in 2003
That's why my downloads stop at 95 percent
Haha lol then they slowly drop down to 3%
Heh
*owned
Don't wanna be mean but I don't get the joke
@@iamtheone11tt theres a windows joke where updates always stop at 90 something %
I've been a developer for 20 years. There was a time that we looked forward to our discs coming in from the msdn subscription so we could check out all the new wonderful things Microsoft was releasing. Then, in the early part of oughts, ot became more of a sense of dread, like "what did they screw up now?"
So basically,
IE walked so that others could run
Yup
You’re welcome
@@hopes_peak_akademie__6646 thanks.
they started everything then dipped from there, like winning the lottery then lost everything
Technically…that was Mosaic or Netscape
Linus you're clearly standing you big fibber
yeah Linus you piece of shit!
HOW CAN WE EVER TRUST THIS MAN AGAIN?!
Wait, Chase? Didn't know you watch Linus too.
He thinks he got us
+
5:58 That sounds like a threat.
Robert Anca because it is
Yes
3th
Me who hv subscribed 4 years ago: You picked the wrong guy fool.
@@theinceptor3672 you joined 3 years ago
2:12 I swear I read the text first...
mr popo
Thanks, boobs ❤️
Nah, even took a screenshot.
🤣🤣
@@EikottXD 😂😂😂😂same hahah
0:50
thats called foreshadowing...
When you spam 0:50 it sounds like something
Edge: "What is my purpose?"
Rick: "You download Chrome."
Edge: "Oh my god."
Rick: "Yeah welcome to the club pal."
@@nubz4lif Too be fair, you need a rather high IQ to understand Rick and Morty :^)
@@DangerB0ne to be fair only low iq people make these jokes
@@glowingone1774 to be fair, only low iq people who didn't get Dangerbone's joke
@@haniffaris8917 to be fair only low iq people dont get danger bones joke about noobs4life joke
@@carson7992 irony ?
Firefox works great for me, I'll be staying there.
@Joe Al I don't use Pocket. I love the Facebook container for the rare time is use it and AD blocking has worked best in FF for me.
Good choice
What about waterfox?
@@MicCheckMemoirs I've never used it, though I am willing to give it a try.
@Joe Al It's kinda useful, especially if you are reading something and you have to go to another pc or you have to read it on your phone or anothe pc, you can press on the three dots and click "send tab to..." and you can select the device.. it's great becaue I can use the tower at the university as a second monitor to send the exercise that I'm doing on my laptop while keep coding or splitting the screen...
PS: on android the send tab thing works with a push notification so you can tap it and open it with crome that is much better on android...
My English is ugly, I know :-P
Between IE, Firefox, Chrome, and Avast, my preferred browser is Firefox.
Justin Lynch I use chrome
Same as me.
I use Opera
Opera on linux, brave on android, Firefox on windows
Duckduckgo
Netscape Navigator will always have a place in my heart.
Firefox is great. It's faster and less Ram consuming than chrome. I also love it's privacy features and open web standards.
Firefox really stepped up it's game with Quantum.
And then they screwed it up with Cloudflare. I switched to Brave because of that.
Jesus Christ that amount does not sound right at all, is your toolbar filled with spam or something?
The only reason FireFox is private IMO is because of how Chrome is not private.
@@TheRealFobican Firefox is more private even than an average non-Chrome browser - look at the inbuild Privacy Protection feature which blocks tracking cookies and scripts.
Firefox is still my favourite
agree
firefox, while not my favorite, is my most used browser, mainly because of that new thing websites do where they send you verification e-mails every time you try to sign in from a new ip, if that shit wheren't a thing i'd use tor for everything.
I hate it because it switched bing to my browser all the sudden
@@combineadvisor572 you can set that to google in the settings menu
@@nicholashoi3155 it's too late, once your firefox is infected with bing, the only way to get rid of it is to completely uninstall your browser.
i have been there too, that is why i have, at minimum, two browsers so i still have all my bookmarks and shit saved somewhere.
Netscape Navigator for life
Since 96
@Nevermore Is this a whoosh?
Firefox > Chrome
nutscrape navigator we called it back in the day
(way better than internet exploiter)
Someone: **uses IE to download chrome**
Me: **uses Firefox**
*Me uses Edge Legacy*
XD
Me: *Uses my Abacus*
Me, an intellectual: *Opera.*
Last time I downloaded off ie I got Microsoft edge on my 8.1 virtual machine
Me: Opens explorer to download chrome.
Internet exlporer: am I a joke to you.
Oh yeah yeah
The Cleopards fuck your profile picture
TBRGaming fuck your profile picture
Grayson A no you
@@graysona03 no u, that pfp is in process of taking over youtube
"Or do you like Edge, just because it reminds you of a certain browser from your youth ...just, edgier."
This is why I watch till the end 😂
Edge detected the microsoft website as a virus and reused to load it or anything else after that, that was the last time I used it.
@@1OldWriter Why, because it's working perfectly? HUEHUEHUE
I don't like the monopoly that Chrome has. I switched to Firefox.
This. I never should have abandoned Firefox a few years back.
i have switched from edge > firefox > opera
opera turned out to be the best cause i can download extensions from chrome and firefox :D and it is fast
I went from IE to Firefox then tried chrome stopped using it, tried safari used it for a while then went back to firefox and haven't looked back.
I'd use Firefox again if they didn't kill the UI by adopting the whole minimalistic "quantum" thing
firefox keeps hijacking my cpu and ram usage. 50% cpu and 4gb ram. it's insane that it hogs on me when I wasn't even looking and wonder why I lag
In the year of 2019, I had to go through some education-stuff as part of my job (in retail), which included a flash-like type game which would not run in chrome, firefox or even Edge. Edge suggested "You could try using IE, that might work" (no seriously, it did suggest this), and after having scoured through some obscure basement in the control panel looking for the switch to enable the damn browser, I was finally able to run this thing that was required as part of my training. I think I spent like 30 minutes just finding a way to run that game.
Watching this on IE. I'll let you guys know what I think of this video on a couple weeks
actually tried watching this in IE just for shits and giggles. It works. not perfectly, but plays the video just fine.
@lvl53charizard It works for most videos - some don't work, for me
@@Jimmy_G412 IE plays 60fps videos smoother than chrome or Firefox on my side. Idk why but i use it a lot for media consumption!
@@tomgjeka7028 To be serious (I know OP meant to be a joke), IE even now still works for the most part and very light. Though because of its age and no improvements, some sites are started to look so broken, old and simply being blocked by their web admin and force to use more modern browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Opera).
Edge replaced IE for a long time, but sadly it suffered from lack of features and bugs on its early release. Only recently that Edge is actually a very good alternative web browser which is lightweight, fast and some nice features like pen support which is handy if you have tablet with pen support. Scrolling performance is addicting too that it's baffling that other browsers still don't get it.
But Edge will turn into another Chromium fork since recently they announce that they are switching web browser engine and technologies in favor of Chromium, abandoning EdgeHTML. One benefit of this is that Microsoft will now contribute code to Chromium and hopefully fixes Chromium issues like RAM hog, scrolling performance, better font rendering, better touch and pen support, and faster JavaScript execution.
I am on IE, just to test this, and it loads fine for me
You're sugarcoating what MS did with IE. It wasn't just sleeping on their hands, they were actively trying to sabotage web standards, and abused their market dominance... by "improving" (breaking) web standards, or misimplementing them so pages didn't render properly in other browsers. Also, remember the antitrust cases of the late 90's, how they tried to leverage their desktop OS dominance to the same end! The "browser wars", etc. They made web development hell for developers, who then couldn't wait to ditch it. They tried to control Java (applets were the first attempts at dynamic web) as well, and when they couldn't, they tried to crush it with IE-only ActiveX (COM), and later .NET. The same with javascript...
Also, javascript was created by netscape (which later became mozilla browser, which became Firefox..) - they tried to change it so that it worked differently in IE. Javascript is required for AJAX.. but javascript could do dynamic content before that; point is, IE wasn't the first.
Microsoft's philosophy has always been: *Embrace, Extend, Exterminate!* - they produce technology more for profit than to produce the best tech possible.
Free and Open Source Software (FLOSS) is becoming more mainstream, which is why MS is warming up to it (after decades of trying to eradicate it).. Windows will follow the same trajectory and eventually become irrelevant... since their core philosophy remains to be profit first. It's the same reason Commodore and Amiga, and many other huge tech companies went extinct. Their incumbency is a mere fluke side effect of the freakish tech boom of the last couple of decades.
True but for Windows to die down it will take decades, maybe even multiple decades. The numbers of people using Windows for private use or business/work is just huge. The only market where Microsoft is not really strong is Server market. Sure they have Win.Server 20XX but big companies still prefer Red Hat or any other Linux or Unix based platform.
@@malisa71 It has already been decades... And the server market isn't the only place MS isn't strong... They missed the mobile bandwagon (Android is linux-based, and is also now more popular than iOS (same reasoning goes for Apple, they're even worse)) - how long did it take for Blackberry to overtake Nokia? Then iPhone overtook Blackberry, then Android overtook iPhone. All within 1 and 1/2 decade. Remember IExplorer once had 90% of the market. It was lost within a decade! Windows is just an OS after all, just software... and linux and almost everything on it is free software... that runs on anything, even virtualized inside windows, or dual booted next to it. It's faster, less bloated, more secure, more robust, open source, standards based... it makes it's own case. It just doesn't have MS or Apple's marketing dept. or questionable business tactics.
They've also lost the web: cloud/virtualization space, search engines, online services, etc. PS4 is doubling XBox One sales...
The last bastion holding back the tides of mass migration to linux has been desktop gaming.. but that's changing quickly, since Steam started targeting linux; other projects followed suit; and mobile gaming has made it a multi-platform contest.
Companies' desktop OS's are usually determined by the IT department or CTO, not the general users. The users generally don't know or care what OS they use, and need tech support for even the simplest problems. Once you get the IT department guys, you've got the company - IT guys tend to be gamers too. And users tend to use at home what they use at work - this is why MS-DOS got big in the 80's & 90's, and then windows.
@@youngfeet How so? Didn't chrome push the adoption of web standards? Chromium, the base of chrome, is open-source. What exactly are you talking about?
Seems to work fine in firefox, I'll have to double-check.
ruok? (forgive any presumption..) Who are you talking about? It seems as if you might be talking about people in the third person, as if they're not in the room. Or are we pretending that comments aren't made by real people, or.. what? Is 'millennial' just a descriptor we throw out to automatically dismiss opinions that... conflict with ours... what? Should we accept that the past is some position that millennials necessarily idolize? Why would you think that that is typical? Too many questions...
I'm trying to be coherent. Sorry for the gallup of questions. It's saturday night... not too sober.
But.. but.. where's the part about edge switching it's own engine to chromium?!?!?!?!
Coz this is not about Edge.
@@azarilh2355 It kind of is. Edge is basically just a polished and rebranded version of IE
@@ClockworkRBLX I disagree because 4:25 says "purged *all* of IE's old code."
@@featherinescat & microsoft & blue & web browser
edge has its own engine it uses edgehtml
Two thoughts:
Never rest on your laurels
There are enemies at the gates
Firefox is still the best imo, I love how I could open hundred of tabs and scroll through them easily, no other browser had this feature afaik
Opera is close second with its build in proxy
I'm not sure about "scroll through them easily." I use and like Firefox, but I do think scrolling feels choppy sometimes. Not sure if 144Hz has anything to do with it (I found a few posts claiming it was related). Good thing is there are like two-dozen scrolling related variables you can modify in about:config, so I copied someone's settings and it feels better now.
Still the best? Or do you mean the best again?
While Firefox was better than Internet Explorer, there was a time when it was kinda slow and ate up RAM (late 2000's). That is why the masses switched to Chrome around that time.
I don't use Firefox these days so it may be in fact the best again. But there was a time it wasn't.
Yeah that's true, I do use chrome though, mostly, it's easy with chrome to sync with my other devices especially since I'm an Android user. Sometimes I feel chrome is a jail.
And google sites like TH-cam runs smoothly in chrome than in Firefox.
@@abhaymhatre291 yea, but unfortunately Chrome eat too much ram, as someone that open hundreds of tabs and other apps as well Chrome is just not good as my daily driver, I do have like 6 different browsers just in case but I mainly use fox and opera, and I guess torch for build in torrent
The ability to scroll through tabs is just too good for me, other browser tabs will get too small to read if I open more than 20 tabs at once
@@zeromailss Why would anyone need hundreds of tabs? I hear people say this all the time and it makes no sense to me. Just close tabs when you're done with them, or bookmark them if you think you'll need it later. I can't stand it when the tabs get small and I can't read them, or when some start to disappear and you have to "scroll" with the arrow.
And now IE is located in Windows Accessories😂
It's gonna be removed on Windows 11 so Windows 10 is the last version to support it.
Is it? Does it actually still work lol
@isaacsrandomvideos667 I think in recent months, if you try opening Internet Explorer at least in win 10, it'll open edge. It may have opened ie a couple years ago when you made your comment, but not now.
I've been using Opera since 2004 or so.
So many features that are a given on modern internet browsers were born here.
I'm sad it never got as popular as it deserves.
I felt like I was scrolling for so long to find another comment from an Opera user. I said in my comment that I switched about a year ago and I can never go back to anything now.
🎼The Opera, the Opera, we like the Opera! 🎶🎵--- Dizzy Man's Band (and a browser).
th-cam.com/video/n0DxtEM1znQ/w-d-xo.html
I used to like Opera, but i switched to vivaldi and don't plan on leaving.
It's kinda ironic I used opera back in my Java Nokia phones because the built in browser in Nokia phones.
In fact, I know opera in my Nokia phones, I shocked when there is Opera in Windows.
Fellow Opera user here. Left Chrome because it was being slow in my computer.
R.IP, used you when I was 7, nostalgia hits different. You'll be remembered Internet Explorer.
What’s Firefox? What’s chrome? Internet explorer is amazing!
This post was made using Internet Explorer.
Sicarius Whats that??
This was posted on safari or TH-cam app
lol imagine using electronics
this reply was made by smoke signals gang
Lol
Firefox is my Sister and Idk What a Chrome is XD
@Firefoxes Sister did you just change your name JUST to make that jock
Internet explorer:Happy Christmas and new year 2016.
1:53 Thank you for noticing that the Netherlands also exists.
I used it,
To download chrome
And then I used chrome to download Firefox.
@@nekdo_kavc that's incredibly inefficient, considering that it would take longer to download firefox via chrome than firefox via internet explorer. also chrome will use more space of your hard disk so you have to uninstall it as well
You know what annoying dickheads do?
This
@@LegacyLunatic r/wooosh
Day 15 of downloading: We have reached an amazing 2 percent!
FireFox is best for now. Haven't seen anything from the others to change my mind, plus I like the fact that it's non-profit and open sourced.
I would use firefox if I could get my LastPass account to log in.
@@BlackWinnerYoshi Why use the IE of the 201X, hint it's a bloated mess
@@BlackWinnerYoshi privacy and data concerns. Ie Google doesn't have a shit about your privacy and actively spies on you
@@BlackWinnerYoshi Because Google in 2018 is basically Microsoft in the mid 2000s.
Chrome is based off of Chromium, which is open source as well.
It's firefox for me all day long
Using firefox since windows xp, can confirm.
I prefer chrome now
All day long? Probably bc firefox froze again after running out of resources to hog. (Not that chrome is hogs less, just manages it better.)
Same here man. I've switched browsers a lot and at the moment, Firefox runs the best on both mobile and desktop (for me at least).
Firefox all the way!
no reason to use anything other than firefox and tor.
Firefox has the best rendering engine (Gecko) and was the original browser (Mozilla, Netscape). No one else compares.
Firefox is bloated crap now. I used to use it but now Chrome is easily the way to go. Is way lighter as well
@@Chunkylover1582 The opposite is true
@@012345678944107 yes. My second reason for not using it (after privicy) is that it is such a resource hog!
Just started using the latest edge as I had gotten away from computers in general for a few years (android filled that gap.) Great video explaining how bad things had gotten. It's amazing how all the brains at big companies can follow bad strategies. Good to see that they've gotten back on track and are leading instead of following.
That 3% market share comes from users downloading other browsers or web developers testing their websites in IE
nah it is beacouse my school still uses IE
nah it’s because Pearson products only work in IE.
that and virtually every school in the uk
The 3% is just me in multiple disguises
I'm one of about 5% who is using Opera.
I love Opera! It's my browser of choice.
i use FF, IE and opera depending on my need.
opera here too.
Too bad it got bought out by the Chinese, can't trust it anymore.
@@stevenclark5173 damn did it really?
I'm using edge, it works just fine. Oh and that business practice of not allowing you to uninstall IE. Funny how I think Microsoft lost a court case in EU about that but Google and Apple do the exact same thing today and get away with it.
Jimmy G firefox remains the open source clean browser unaffected and always (almost) comes with good will.
Microsoft is considered a monopoly. Apple's market share has never really been that big, and same goes for google. Even today Microsoft still has nearly 90% of the desktop marketshare with apple making up just under 10%. When you are big, you have to play by rules that not everyone else has to. Otherwise competition might never be established.
As of 6-15-2022, Internet Explorer is officially dead
Too many popups browsing porn after school.
Don't forget the adbars, seachbars, spyware, adware, malware, Trojans, and viruses it let through when browsing a lot of that porn lol
lol at all the likes on this haha
And malware hijacks your home page with no easy way to restore control.
This is WHY I ditched chrome
It has BS adware. It keep starting up on it's own with an ad. Edge never did it. And the UI, Edge is way better
@@rick25810 use malwarebytes
Microsoft wasn't asleep, they were intentionally trying to hold back web progress. Netscape Navigator was a threat to Microsoft because it broke Microsoft's Win32 lock-in with portable web applications. Microsoft saw this coming and did everything in their power to divert or replace Netscape. Thus IE evolved quickly, but under the guise of "open standards" that Microsoft drove. This veneer of openness forced Netscape away from their Java/Javascript combo platform that threatened to give us Web 2.0 style applications back in the late 90's.
Once Microsoft was successful in eliminating Netscape (and don't get me wrong, IE5 was a very good browser for its time!), they intentionally shut down advancement of their browser technology. Why? Because they didn't want to undermine their Win32 lock-in themselves. Thus IE ceased even meeting the current standards that Microsoft had pushed through.
This was ultimately Microsoft's undoing as Firefox played Microsoft's game. Firefox met the standards already in place and pushed for the standards to be further enhanced. Microsoft wouldn't play ball, resulting in the W3C dragging its feet on any serious updates to HTML 4. Not to be deterred, the Mozilla Foundation, Opera, Google, and Apple came together to found the WHATWG standards body to define HTML 5. They left an open invitation to Microsoft, but guess who wasn't going to play this consortium's game?
Well, that is, until they did. I still remember when Microsoft posted their first comment to the WHATWG mailing list. No behind the scenes negotiation or acceptance, they just showed up and started participating. My sense is that Microsoft was going to try the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish plan yet again. But by then Chrome had hit the scene and the combined weight of Chrome, FireFox, Safari, and Opera became a force to be reckoned with. While online campaigns to have websites not support IE any longer were semi-successful, it was ultimately Google's homepage that offered an upgrade to Chrome that killed off IE.
Don't feel bad for Microsoft. They did it to themselves. Feel overjoyed that the current CEO Satya Nadella is looking past such crude tactics as Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish toward cooperation and more honest competition. At least for now...
New CEO means they have to start the cycle over at "Embrace". LOL
@@StrixyN - "New" is a relative term here. Satya's been on the job since 2014 and is the key reason for Microsoft's turnaround.
What do you mean by Java/JavaScript ? Last time I checked they are not the same and not even close. (I'm a java programmer and ignore my profile picture lmao cba to change it).
JavaScript didn’t get its name as just a marketing stunt. Netscape intended JavaScript to “script” Java components on web pages. Not just Applets. If you look up the LiveConnect technology you’ll find that you could invoke the JVM from JavaScript without even having an Applet on the page.
The reverse was possible as well. A Java component could invoke JavaScript and DOM 0 manipulation to change the page.
All this meant that the full library of the JVM was at the browser’s disposal. Many of the things we can do today like AJAX-enabled applications could have been accomplished if Microsoft hasn’t halted Netscape’s progress.
Well, Windows 7 was the users idea for a good version of Windows. Windows 10 is the subscription service Microsoft wanted. They are catering their own needs over ours more than ever.
rest in peace my old friend !!
Goddamn chrome, stealing my RAM when I’m looking up how to craft a conduit
Here is the recipe for it so you can craft without chrome stealing ram. A heart of the sea in the centre and 8 nautical shells around it.
I'm pretty sure I only ever used IE to download a better browser.
I use it download kickstart PC requirement apps from ninite.com
Also had to use it for Windows updates before the dedicated update app.
Same I used it to install Google chrome
A better browser -- like Firefox :)
Come on guys! Why all the hate for IE? It works perfectly fine.
I can't believe it's 2010 and y'all still hating!
P.S What is Edge?
LOL! Really excellent! Too damn funny!🤣😄
Edge is the faster but shit version of IE. NEVER USE IT
Microsoft Edge is a browser on Windows 10 and Xbox One
@@RayyanRahman132 What's Windows 10?
@@ahmedm6228 Microsoft's last Windows system and was released on July 5th 2015 (I think I got it wrong) and had loads of stuff Windows 7 & 8 can't
1. The Edge browser ofc
2. Microsoft Store (ik Windows 8 and 8.1 has it)
3. Cortana, Microsoft's Assistant
4. Windows Hello face unlock
All of them (Edge, chrome, FF).. but FF is daily driver.. others are more for testing
it's opera and tor for me.
4fun browsers and Firefox
FF is my daily driver too. I do have to use chrome for watching streams on mixer, due to it being the browser the site works the best on for me.
I also use IE for writing comments like this
Internet Explorer, AOL and Nokia - a tragic story that we should learn...
i use firefox. never crashed once on me. i have around 50 tabs open most of the time and it never uses more than 2GB of RAM.
Why so much tabs tho
@@pedrocajunior9351 you aint lived internet porn until you opened 9 tabs and kept pressing ctrl + tab to move to the next picture
50 tabs? Damn. 7 tabs was a lot for me.
50 pfff I am on 538, i got sick of bookmarks tabs are faster plus with tab manager
well right now im working on a project. i have nearly 195 tabs open. but how much ram do you have? 32gb? @@streamtabulous
Microsoft also misjudged its market dominance at the time by ignoring W3C RFC standards and instead trying to force its own proprietary standards.
MS failed to get any traction with these proprietary standards and instead got its ar$3 handed to it by Netscape and Chrome.
Add IE to a long list of failures due to errors in judgement on market dominance: Skype, Games for Windows Live, Windows Store, Windows phone and the list goes on. UWP is the latest debacle where the old tricks of market dominance coupled with proprietary software is also doomed to fail.
Wake up and smell the roses MS. You've not been able to fool anyone for a very long time. Time to create some useful, compelling stuff rather than executing on outdated and failed strategies.
Probably internet explorer users can't watch this video until 2025 lmao
I keep IE on my comp only because I have an illogical fear of not being able to access the internet in any way.....yet to happen though.
i keep ie on becuase one time my chrome stoped working so i breifly went on ie to fix it
IE is particularly useful for me if I want to watch State TV or listen to its radio. For some reason, Firefox crashes!
Bing pays me to use it, and I love it.
I watched the vid just fine.
The mighty 🦊 carries the 🔥 forever.
the fox died
@@Superjump100 and they chopped off his tail.
People said: "I don't like IE: Windows forces you to use it. It's a way to get the monopoly for Microsoft. Let's use Chrome instead!"
Little did they know.... :'-)
PS: I use Firefox, just because it is not connected to a big ass company.
Do... Do you not know what mozilla is?
@@Mostlyharmless1985 Mozilla is a free software community, promoting free software and open standards.
Use opera browser
@@poldelepel They also collect and sell your personal information. Nice of them to tell you that though. It's a multi million dollar company., brought in 592 million last year, netted 89 million total.
Tell me, do you remember ever. PAYING for firefox?
It's a Giant corporation with over a thousand employees.
@@luisalcantara6097 Opera Software, owned by Beijing Kunlun Tech Co., Ltd. (Zhou Yahui),
Qifei International Development Co. Limited , and Keeneyes Future Holdings Inc (, hey look, Zhou Yahui again!)
If you want something that isn't owned by "Some giant corporation." Look for a spin off project like Palemoon or Midori, or, if your concern is privacy, do the sane thing, and seek out a browser that is focused primarily for privacy, Dooble.
Or, do the most sane(?) thing if privacy is REALLY your concern and use the Tor Browser. Bonus points for reliving in 1993 web speeds.
Microsoft finally got it right with the Chromium-based Edge browser. I love it.
Right Its what I use!
@@soundspark As someone else put it, it's basically Chrome but with a different company storing all your data.
Ie is only for people with a gigabyte of ram and tries to download bonzibuddy
Even those people don't want IE.
My dads old pc had 1gb ran lol, he used it up until 2013 😂
every time he reaches to his hip it makes me nervous
Yep, this guy is switching poses as fast as he speaks.
chrome got popular because it was fast and used less memory. But i think both of those pro's are from the past.
Now it's popular just coz it's google. Ya know... fanboism.
That was exactly why people picked it up. Ignore the lack of security measures, and just get the fastest possible browser.... what could possibly go wrong?
@@Fools_Requiem well take the fastest browser then and go with ff ;). Okay not faster but it uses less ram and this is a win for most guys who use 10+ tabs
Now it's the reverse, Google has bloated Chrome to use 80% higher memory.
I should know ;)
Yeah, if we go back to 2009 we'll see a lot of comments along the lines of, "I couldn't stand Firefox's memory leaks and jumped ship to Chrome. Can you believe FF was using 1 GB RAM???" How times change...
Long live the Brave! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Opera for the win!
Music: Spotify
Browser: Chrome
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Hotel ? Trivago
music: pirate bay
browser: tor
hotel? underpass
No.
Who gave India the internet, all they do is spread cringe and dead jokes
@@6ix9inevevo52 that one INDIAN CEO of Google sunder pichai
@@faizanhejazi8080 it's just the CEO not the owner
Thought he would speak about Microsoft dropping Egde rendering engine to Chromium but no, good old memories about IE.
It's supposedly just rumors at this point, but it wouldn't shock me. Building a browser around Chromium/Blink would mean not having to maintain the entire browser on their own, and they can push fixes and the like upstream, thus saving on duplication of effort.
They already talked about the chromium thing in a previous video.
Netscape, I miss you.
Growing up Internet Explorer was all I knew for web browsers. As far as I knew back then that WAS how you accessed the internet, by opening that Internet Explorer icon. I didnt know it was just a browser and that there were other browsers out there until later on. In school, the library and everywhere else I used a computer the Internet Explorer icon was always on the computer and that's what I was taught to use to access the internet. I didnt realize there were so many people that hated it so much until later on. So I dont really understand where all the hate is coming from, I never had a problem with it and I thought that's what everyone was using up until recently. Funny thing is when chrome came out I started using that because it was different and suggested to me to install to my computer at the time and now that's pretty much my go to web browser since then.
How to make a web developer cry: "We need support for IE6"
We need support for IE6
*Happy New Year 2013*
From Internet Explorer.☺️
This is nostalgic
At the same time, all other major browsers say Happy New Year 2019
Firefox quantum is the best in my opinion chrome doesn't open netflix and doesn't allow me to update it
@ateb3 no Firefox quantum opens it like chrarm in 1080p
@@balancemaster Dude, use punctuation.
I am not obligated to.@@evandroa4845
@@balancemaster You're not. You're also not obligated to come across as an illiterate person, but you still do it
I don't even study English at school , my native language is Bulgarian . Ако не ти харесва може да се разкараш :)@@evandroa4845
I use Internet Explorer for the old TH-cam easter eggs like "do the harlem shake" or "use the force luke".
"I walk in the dark, so others could see the light"
- Internet Explorer (1995-2020)
Is anyone here after the completely new Edge?
@@smt4090 none.
it's great
3:07 Making it very hard to unninstall.
Me: Can i remove IE from modern Windows 10? **Typing "Internet..." in the search bar**
Also me: *Uses Manjaro linux
I think the sacrificial death of Internet Explorer and phoenix rebirth of Edge actually worked. I can’t believe how so many of my even somewhat techie friends actually use Edge instead of Mozilla Firefox.
I must be in the minority still using the Internet Explorer.
Thank you very much for releasing this video today. I was so happy when I have seen that the IE is finally getting some recognition.
If possible switch to a different browser, such as Edge (also by Microsoft), Firefox or Chrome. I'm pretty sure Internet Explorer is unsupported and using it may lead to security risks.
have you switched yet
@@MaryamMaqdisinever use edge, it’s spyware
0:42 *"A lot of IE's problems had their roots in Microsoft's desire not to frustrate its users but rather to innovate"*
I would argue that they did succed in innovating because creating the world's worst internet browser requires a lot innovative skill wouldn't you say?
they didn't create the worst browser
others just created better ones
Who here remembers Netscape Navigator?
BDNeon I'm still using it.
Back in the days, I used to use explorer to download firefox.
"I Downloaded at Midnight!", Yep, I got the shirt.. and wore it with pride
I just wanna see Linus make one decent entry into the sponsor segment 🤣
My school still tries to keep it alive
ValotheVictinii I bet when the teacher sees a student using another browser, he/she sends said student to the principal
Meanwhile, netscape lives on in the form of firefox
Even now firefox is best its fast
I use edge
it isn't the best but it also isn't bad and just has a bad rep
yep edge != IE
Right? this is what ive been telling people
Idk why but not if flash stuff doesn't work on it and it's slower than all the other browsers I have installed.
Ah yes, Internet Explorer my favorite web browser....... to use to install firefox
This comment is not approved by internet explorer
along time ago when _Windows 98_ was popular, I like to use _internet explorer_ for browsing
Ajax, “Dutch soccer club”, thanks so much for mentioning!
Sounds like iAxe not Eh Jax 😂
It’s football not soccer
When your Christmas relatives internet is so slow all your videos are in 240p so you don’t care about being early 😂😂
Time to stop using IE.
I hav vids at 240p just to save on internet usage, I only have a 1TB, monthly cap that is shared among 6 ppl
also, here is a comment written in IE just for fun
@@potato_x69
they forgave us when we went 50% over, twice
also, I have no control over our isp
@@potato_x69 like I said, our isp is out of my control
It is still the #1 browser for downloading other browsers !
That one is edge
I remember how much internet explorer was a total pain in the neck.
The only thing i used enternet explorer is to dowload chrome :p
Same lmao
Everyone does that when install windows xd
TheyCallmE-HaPPy _Brain same
And now thats all Edge is used for...
Well, I prefer firefox...
Him: IE is dying
My school: WELL, TO REVIVE IE, WE WILL FORCE TEACHERS TO USE IE!
Safari on my phone and Chrome on my computers for me, but I still remember using Internet Explorer back when I was like 5 or 6 on the school computers.
my school computers are chromebooks so we only use chrome
I enjoy Internet Explorer and appreciate that I can create a shortcut easily.
I dont like Chrome's near monolpoy so I have always used Firefox
And I don't like the way Google and Yahoo are censoring content
There is a new browser called Dissenter!
DuckDuckGo is better
@@Nemo67577 Dissenter is based on Brave
Same here
I would even use Android alternative if i ever have one
Oh man, I used to love opera, but they ruined it with an awful update years ago.
@Redblast They used to use proprietary Presto engine and suddenly switched to free Blink engine. It was like 5-6 years ago
Old engine had huge performance issues with strong memory leakage. Modern sites were not able to work properly on relatively slow hardware, so users migrated to Chrome and FF, which performed significantly better. I was one of the people who stayed on 12 version for a long time, but only because of Opera's customization potential which had no even approximate equals. Fortunately, it have now. Vivaldi (by old Opera developers) is the only browser for my personal usage now.
I love Edge! I do think it's faster than Chrome and the scrolling is pure bliss, especially on a high refresh rate monitor. I just can't use it because Google services like youtube, drive or gmail is buggy as hell on Edge. I would easily switch over to Edge if Google didn't use monopolizing tactics to force people to use their products/services. So I'm stuck with Firefox for now.
Firefox is legit the best
I'm pretty sure Google adds some specific code to these services to make sure they don't function completely on Edge. I'm still holding out with it for now.
@TGLT Clutch nice, I'll have to try that out. Thank you
Send me your profile picture pls
Google services are buggy on edge because Google is forcing Microsoft to use chromium.
During late 90's many websites were indicating that were compatible with internet explorer or netscape navigator.
I preferred Netscape Navigator instead of internet explorer until the advent of Windows XP.
Windows users: umm i.e. sucks lets use safari!
Mac Users:Safari sucks lets use i.e.