Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S3:E9
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This viewer's gaming PC is totally bricked! It refuses to POST, meaning we could be looking at multiple causes. Let's do our best to fix it! Welcome to Fix or Flop! By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop
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Hair grew back instantly
It did! Man, is he using miracle grow?
@@shanemcknight1583 something like that, we need the secret lol
Hair plugs? 🤔🤨🙄🤦🏾♂️😁🫶🏾
Extremely strong genetics
Rooster Riki is back!!
Thank you so much once again! Sorry the pc was so dirty 😂 it was a few months since I’ve cleaned it out. I have cleaned it since! I was so happy it wasn’t a cpu issue. Brand new board just completely stops working.
Glad I could help! And thanks again for dropping it off!
Flip your top fans around, so they exhaust the air from the case.
omg glad someone else said something I’ve been fixated on this the entire video
@@Kinji- it’s unusual, but it doesn’t matter. I tested a few different positions for my 5800x build. The coolest for me was Front and top intake. I think It depends on the case you re using.
@@TheSykoRC I think you're right, in my old case I had better temps with top and front in-take, in the new one I have better temps with front in-take and top out-take
You should do a video of testing all the parts you’ve pulled off of previous fix or flops and post the results in trying to diagnose and repair them!
I've thought about this - at the very least, with all the broken Ryzen CPUs I've accumulated over the years hahah.
I wonder if he can build a pc with swapped parts if he can fix them.
@@GregSalazar seeing all of the dead Ryzen CPU’s on this playlist has changed my mind about wanting to switch over to Ryzen when I eventually rebuild my computer in a few years. For now, I’m quite happy with my 9th gen i7-9700.
@@GregSalazar Disable some cores in the BIOS. Works 90% of the time.
combine all bricked parts to a frankenstein zombie rig^^
the parts will acknowledge each other and work together but dont let it get to the internet or we might have skynet for real
Gregs hair has some reproductive magic here. it may be whats breaking yet fixing all of these rigs due to it’s regenerative process. His luscious hair follicles are blessing the systems as they pass through his own office.
okay can we actually get an answer to this
@@elephystry it is addressed at the beginning of his recent gpu scalpers vid
If this is the last Fix or Flop for the year, hope you and the family have a great holidays and happy new year!
A few more will be published before Christmas hahah, we're still two weeks away.
@@GregSalazar just finished watching! woohoo and glad you fixed the smoky pc!
Ah, the anxiety when you boot up a PC for the first time and hope all goes right. Even after building over 500 PCs (as of last week) I still get that feeling.
Wonderful video, love this series.
same lol
First thought is a corrupt bios. Not too uncommon in boards that will power on, but don't post. With luck that board has a bios flash option or a second bios you can switch to. Otherwise you may have to remove the Bios chip and flash it externally. There is also the possibility some errant surge made it through the PSU without killing it, only to kill the MOBO.
Also don't forget when swapping a new motherboard into a case, it will do a boot cycle as you've just seen. I've seen this on multiple fixes and builds. Always had geeked me out initially but realized that's just what happens when it's completely wiped out of power. 👍
yeah, and some do one cycle after just a bios update
Fix or Flop are my favorite videos. Because of these I've been helping my friends with parts I no longer need. Just gave away a 2060 and 5600X and B450 motherboard.
Not sure if there will be another FoF next week due to being close to Christmas. If not, have a great Holiday and thanks for this amazing series.
Always great content youre such a good person helping others out
Only able to do this because of all of you! Thanks for watching.
MSI Z490 and Z590 had a huge problems with BIOS installation which could brick your motherboard if you installed the BIOS from the Dragon Center/MSI Center instead of from the BIOS through USB stick. The common symptom of this issue was PC hanging on the CPU LED and not posting. There's dozens of threads on MSI forums about this issue. I believe this motherboard has BIOS flashback so you can try that.
old comment i know 😅 but dragon center in general is just bad. i had it on my “old” 10700k z490 system, and it trying to put itself in game mode kept giving me BSOD. then it was over playing my RAM to hell so id adjust it…BSOD.
never had another issue after i uninstalled that program lol
This dude is a PC Gaming Hero if you live near him :)
In the future I'd also recommend removing the NVMe SSD, since that is a PCIe device it can cause some strange system behavior depending on how they fail. I've had a number of PCIe devices cause a "CPU fault" in our servers so best to remove all PCIe devices when troubleshooting these issues.
He said he was doing this.
I really like watching the videos I have repaired the family and friends pc's for years sometimes I run into new things and sometimes I watch you run into some weird problems I feel if I keep watching videos I stay up to date with computer repair and continue to learn. Love this series of videos keep up the good work!!!
Yes...same here. I have become the family friend "techie guy". At 66 I need all the help I can get so I never miss a FOF vid from Mr. Salazar. Or any others for that matter.
greg you are amazing at what you do. Honest, kind, enjoyable to watch. I hope you see this since i wanted to wish you and everyone around you a merry christmas!
I figured that was the issue right away. Not getting to a point where dr debug could even generate an error code doesn't seem like something that would happen on a functional component.
I know you may not see this but you've helped have the confidence to do stuff with my own pc. I bought a pre built a few years ago and cleaned it for the first time a few weeks ago. I know I waited too long and yess it was gross lmao. But I've passively learned alot from this channel and I actually know what I'm looking at when I look at my computer. I even opened up and cleaned my old xbox one and actually put it back together lmao. I LOVE your content man.
That smoke smell haha, it's good of you that you don't make it so difficult to order a matching motherboard.
I just went through this with one of my customers. An old DDR3 Socket AM3. Went through all the basic checks including BIOs reset and update. I even tested all of his components on a test bench and all of his components worked. CPU, Ram, GPU, PSU, etc. Pulled the entire system apart and everything worked except the MOBO. Even after putting some of my brand new components into his motherboard. Nothing worked on his MOBO. Great Video Greg!!!
Like you, I do a lot of these basic repairs for free. I just hate being the barer of bad news. I did help him find a new MOBO and we are waiting on it in the mail. I even helped him pay for it because he is a high school student and not working yet. But I did have a lot of fun teaching and showing him what all goes into repairs like this. Again...Great Vid Greg!!!! 👍
Always look forward to these videos. Incredibly generous of you to provide the motherboard out of pocket. Definitely a like!
Nice been waiting. Thanks for another upload
Greg, your videos are very well produced and dig your personality. Thanks for doing this service to the community. Would love more deets on what your fix or flop client tells you what they "did" to the PC to lead to the failure. Many commenters asking about BIOS but was there actually any indication that the client tried to update their bios?? That is just an example obviously....but my OCD is coming in to play here. I want alllll the info haha
Awesome video :)
Thanks for all your hard work
Heck with Thanks Steve. Thanks Greg!
This is how I enjoy my morning coffee, I like to watch there fof videos, whatever the outcome. Thanks, Greg.
Another great video, I applaud your efforts to help those not able t o afford repairs.
This guy could afford it if he bought less Weed/Cigarettes... smokers are gross
All these guys have money
@@miso1995srb Then incorrect priorities GPU is more important than cigarettes/weed Edit: Should have a 6950xt or 3080/3090 before buying weed or cigarettes 😂
@Critter B Getting addicted to something is their own fault
I wonder if the gunk from smoking is spoiling contacts? I have a rig that fairly quickly sent boot messages that one of the cpu connections was missing. It wasn’t but a electronic pray can helped it find the connector. The only reason I can think is living close to the coast in the tropics.
I've heard about smoke shortening the life of electronics so it wouldn't surprise me.
Greg, you might say that it's not the BIOS even after putting in the 10th gen CPU. However, that it wouldn't hurt to see if it actually is. Since the motherboard is bricked and there is a red LED illuminating for the CPU leads to the BIOS being corrupted possibly. The first thing that allows the CPU to fire up first is the BIOS once it goes through its training process. Please if you can have someone who is trained in that department look at it to reflashing BIOS chips. I guarantee that should do the trick into getting it run again and even better keeping it off the hands of the smokers.
@@RulzSG I actually didn't think about the BIOS flashback feature. Well then. That could be something that he can look back into to see if the flashback feature really is a simple fix to bringing it back to life.
I really enjoy these videos. As a HUGE geek, I like to watch these and try to predict, based on the symptoms, if I can guess what the problem is.
Hi, I'm having the same problem as the pc in the video. Maybe you could help me with finding the problem? For a few days, whilst I've had the pc on the monitor would say no signal randomly. Whilst playing a game etc. I could still hear music from the game in the background. After a while, this would happen and I started to hear a buzzing sound from the speakers. I had to turn off the pc and turn it back on for the monitor to start again. Now, when I start the pc, the monitor is saying no signal. I haven't been able to fix this issue.
I've recently got a new rtx 3070 gpu, I have a ryzen 5 3600 cpu, 16gb 3200 ram. And a 650w psu. The motherboard is a Asus rog strix b450. I'm getting a new cpu fan and 850w psu to upgrade the pc. I'm hoping that when I do the new build, it will be working as usual. I'm just not sure what could be causing the problem exactly. Sorry for the long message, I appreciate any help.
I'm 90% sure it is a bricked bios because of the double dash which means it cant even start checking everything so it halts before even attempting the first step.
If there is a bios flashback option you could try to load a new one on it but chances are the bios chip itself got corrupted.
2:50. Haven't finished the video yet but wanted to say that Corsair RAM has a hardware profile on it that normally has lights, but can also be set to have the lights off. I do this for mine so when I sleep my computer the lights go off.
Another awesome video for the series 👍
Amazing work as always.
I'd definitely add a "is your computer from a smoke-free environment?" To your intake form
Another great fix, good job man.
you do this free. yes. free. every time you make a video like this I see comments disrespecting you for a multitude of reasons. the one that really grits my shit is disappointment in the upgrades/replacements used. wow. just wow
Thank you I'm learning
That was a good one, keep up the great vids
Love the series and content! 😊
Glad you enjoy it!
A really, really simple suggestion to make your life much easier: Get yourself a cheap but reasonable power supply tester. You could save yourself a ton of doubt by just testing the power supply each time. That could also save you from putting replacement parts at risk if the power is not good. They aren't expensive and they would lower your risk (and add a good point to every video).
Hey Greg you should get one of those ozone machines. All you do is cover the pc to be mostly air tight and it should get the cigarette fumes out and make it a little better to work with. Though I'd check to make sure it's safe for a PC because I honestly don't know how it would effect electronics. I had one for when I bought used cars people had smoked in but lost it during a move
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loving this series
Love his lock screen!
Cool video
Just curious if this board had a dual bios to test or supported any bios flashback feature that you could use to reflash it just in case its bios had become corrupted
I particularly like Greg's PC repair videos and am especially glad to have new YouTuibe tech content today that's not about the latest AMD GPUs!
I just did two builds with Gigabyte UD boards. Both did that power cycle thing a few times on first boot. Only board I've had to it. First one didn't POST and I thought I had a dead GPU. Put an old, working GPU in and it worked. Tried the new GPU to confirm it was dead and it worked. Not sure why, but I'm not unhappy about it.
That is so weird I just dealt with a smokers rig. The whole work area (garage) was filled with stale smoke and resin...you know what I mean!! LOL I knew the condition it would have been in so I didn't bring it in the house. Needed a PSU as it was caked in brown smokers fuzz and burnt it out. Cleaned the video card and repasted and repasted the CPU. Big mess but it is working again. I have used your video's for trouble shooting. Thank you for these great helpers.
Solid choice for a motherboard to swap in. I have one of those myself and it's a great value.
All the smoke the owner puffs goes straight to his pc with 5/6 fans set to intake. Was waiting for greg to invert those two top fans but it didnt happen.
Love the playlist.. My OCD was driving me insane with those two top exhaust fans not spinning this time around.. :D (Hooray for Corsair and their huge ratnests of wires for fancontrol)
Same here, I was screaming internally when I saw those top fans. However, at 14:46, there's a brief but better glimpse of the top cooler, and those "fans" are actually just a part of the fan chasis. You can see the actual fan blades spinning just above them.
@@vest816 Ohh, you're right.. Go figure. :) It really looks like they are not spinning. :D
Looks like they are set to intake instead of exhaust though, 5x intake and 1x exhaust fan seems a bit of a weird setup
Keep up the good work enjoy the series.
Sometimes the PC will restart a lot when you swap components to train the memory and such so the restarts are normal
Enjoy the videos, diagnose and repair is a frustrating joy.
love the series, ate a lot of meals watching it.
your a great man, helping people that cant afford to fix or upgrade their systems... keep it up
Hey greg! I wanted to say I love this series but I wish for more on diagnosing side. I wonder if you would like to do a series ˜investigations with greg˜ or ˜truth or mystery˜ where you do a deep dive in to the broken components of fix or flop to see what exactly is wrong and how easy a repair it would be? I find investigating these things can reveal suprising little quirks of certain hardware you would never find out normally.
You are a good guy Greg!
I'm always curious. What if this person knew that the motherboard was faulty but didn't want to buy a new one themselves so instead sent it your way for a free fix..
then it would have been easier to just RMA it, since it was bought 2-3 months ago.
Yep, I wonder about that too sometimes.
To be honest, I kept waiting for Jim Carey to pop in wearing his green mask and say "Smokin........" 🤣
Great fix of flop video like always Salazar. I would really be interested in AMD‘s response to all the dead Ryzen CPU‘s / dead memory channel. Keep it coming!
that is almost my build, few small differences though. I have the Z590 gaming carbon, a 11500k CFX750, MSI RTX 3060 12GB, the 570x case, all samsung SSD's and NVME. am a big fan or Corsair and MSI.
You should get one of those eprom writers. I've seen a few youtubers that will remove the eprom, reprogram it with a current bios, re-solder it, then everything works. Not saying that's what the issue is, but would be cool. Fix or Flop After Dark! :D
i love your videos and i'm in portland,OR
Hey Greg, do yourself a favor and buy an ozone generator off ebay. If you had put the PC in a cardboard box with a generator on for a couple hours (in your garage) and it would have been totally odorless. You shouldn't be subjecting yourself to that kind of torture.
IMO every home owner should own one anyway. You can think of ozone as "air bleach" and it's handy for removing the smell from pretty much anything - old shoes, smoky stuff off ebay, etc.
I actually seen corrosion on the board in one of the frames on a SMDIC at 15.20 bottom right
Use to work with broken computers that came from heavy smokers. You like REALLY smell it. Smokers have to realize that their PC is one giant Air Filter. The hardware will do a pretty good job in absorbing all that TAR. If you're going to smoke, don't do it beside your PC.
I could watch these fix pc videos on this channel all day lol
Nice that it was an easy replacement fix. I'd flip the top fans though as they're intakes now.
I wouldn't call a motherboard replacement an easy fix, if anything it's one of the most tedious pc parts you would have to replace. Unplug all the power cables, unmount cpu cooler, cpu, gpu then unscrew the motherboard screws after that you have remount components plus rerout the cables again it's alot of effort
G'day Greg,
I don't understand why for Americans with broken parts Warranty isn't the first thought once you know what part is the problem, it always seems to be "I could probably have a look & see if I can fix it" even though as you said the Mobo is only 2-3months old, why not "I'll just contact the Seller or Manufacturer & get a replacement"?
Here in Australia at PCCG or Scorptec where I shop if something dies I just ring them to explain the problem, they will then send an email with a postage label & in a week using standard post (even during Human Malware when my 1 of my Corsair Vengeance Pro RAM DIMMs died) I will have a replacement, plus with most reputable stores generally there isn't even a hassle getting a Warranty replacement within the 3 months after Warranty has ended.
That's a 11900k chip, a.k.a. personal space heater. Even with an aio you need all the exhaust you can get. I did not see the top two exhaust working, only the rear one. In that configuration that thing is going to get mighty hot.
i know that cigarettes kill people, but killing a mobo is extra value lol.
I've been a repairer for years and the worst item i had to fix was a home stereo system, it was covered in brown thick sticky goo.
Yes it was a heavy smokers stereo, my hands stuck to the sides.
I used warm water and dish soap to remove it, there was a nice stereo under all that crap.
I really like that purple and black on the mobo.
Love these
I had the same problem with my 7600K.
The issue was some bent pins in my motherboard. Was able to fix it later
I literally have the KF version of that CPU, that CPU cooler and your replacement motherboard in my computer. Dunno if the RAM is the exact same but it has the same style RGB and heatsink.
I love this series, but the most interesting bit here is the hair story arc.
Tobacco smoke is acidic and hard on electronics not surprising this guy has issues with his machine.
bios might be corrupt, so u should try reflashing it.
high end boards got bios flash button so u can flash without cpu or ram installed.
it helped me many times :)
"it really smell like one" i mean diagnosing a smoker's pc really is interesting amirite greg? lol
Could have been a power surge that got it, that is why I have all mine connected to UPS's!😁😁😁
great to see the new video man sorry about the tar issue (the compliment isn’t free I need gpu)😂😂
Nice profile picture (the compliment isn't free, I need gpu - we're even) 😁
Did you check the BIOS battery voltage level? I have seen an issue with an old PC that I was upgrading that had similar conditions... just saying..
secondhand smoke killed this motherboard.
The irony my msi z490 just died a couple weeks but luckily newegg had an aurous z590 master for half what I paid a year ago
Too much weed tripped the motherboard. 😝
In my almost 20yrs of PC building experiences the motherboard has been by far the most common week point of the system, either due to ram incompatibility, bios needing flashed or just physical failures of the motherboard parts (like USB, audio ports & video out connections)...never had CPU failure, although I had one degrade over time due to extreme heat over many years of use, it was a Pentium 4..."Thanks Intel" :/
Can’t rule out a bios issue. Don’t put it past owners to try and update to the WRONG bios for a different motherboard or the like. Or even trying to update the bios and having a power loss during update will usually brick the mobo too
Someone said,user probably turn off pc during windows update
For the CPU debug LED it will light red if there is any CPU issue. Mine nearly cooked when my AIO bricked, and while it would post and run, the light would turn red to indicate thermal max.
Great video. :)
Just guessing initially, but seems like a bricked bios. Probably powered off during update.
mpg z590 gaming force. Has a "no cpu" bios flash . It's unlikely but if you are checking all boxes you can reflash in case there is a corrupt bios.
your the man greg!
I doubted it was the CPU---Intel failures are fairly rare. That mobo is definitely bricked, I wonder what happened to it?
damn Greg, your hair grows back fast. but I dig that "stray cats" look you got going😂
I had a similar issue on my board, and for me the problem was that little black chip right below the CPU 8-pin plug on the right hand side. Not sure what that chip does, but I saw visible smoke come from it. After that the PC wouldn't post exactly the same way.
I also noticed that little chip in your video has 2 little blueish paint marks on it, maybe MSI already worked on it once before?
The original motherboard, MSI, has three years warranty. The owner can most definitely RMA it and get a new one from the manufacturer. The MAG motherboard is clearly few tiers above Gigabyte's AC UD
Hey Greg. It’s Ryan from RYNO TECH. I bought this same board last week and right out of the box had this same thing. Two dashes and cpu light. Sent it back for a gigabyte. I think MSi is having an issue with that particular line of board. As soon as I saw the two dashes I knew it was the board.
maybe greg should buy a test bench? with how many time you doing this fix series, i think it better to have one