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My vote for Lil G and Alvin. I understand that breaking doesn't value powermoves as much as the flow an dancing itself, but team Venezuela had an insane level of energy and spirit compared to the over team. Come on, Lil G is like 35 years old and has more energy than Menno and Stripes combined!
Yeah I think at some point high power and technicality trumps musicality, right? Otherwise you could just top rock on beat all day lol imagine losing to a 6 step on beat 😂
@@Sinistra359 i think bboy judging has become more about styyle now, which sucks. Power moves are hard to learn and do correctly, idk why so many Old judges value style more than power. A bboy should have style, power, and musicality to be the best bboy in the world. This is why idk how menno won so many red bull bc, hes too simple and not the best bboy
@droptopp3479 Power is the easiest brainless thing to learn just keep at it. Know real throught into, not saying it isn't physically demanding just not, creatively difficult.
Lil G and Alvin even did a routine on top of not crashing. Alvin destroyed them litteraly by himself with foot work, power, originality and even dances. ROBBERY
It probably feels like it when you only watch the final battle. Lil G crashed a few times, both him and Alvin were repetitive - flare, airflare combo each round... Flashy, powermove routines are just not it, man.
Its unbeliavable, i battle agaisnt Enano and Lil G almost 20 years ago in Circle Prinz Brazil - 7 to smoke (2007), we are just young guys. Now Lil G its a pro Bboy, Enano was the winner of 7 to smoke and i never heard about him anymore. I got 3rd place and i quit breaking in 2012.
Todo el público sabe que ganó TEAM VINO TINTO pero lamentablemente quieren que USA sea potencia en todo. Usen la lógica Dos Venecos la partieron duro 🔥
Que energía la de Venezuela, para mi son mis GANADORES, gracias por llevar el nombre de Venezuela a lo mas alto del pedestal, muchachos estuvieron y son INCREIBLES
dis battle was heated. that dude with the white binnie... lol flipping off Stripes... lol, he may have caused the chamos this battle imho. i personally thought lil g and alvin had this. but the judges were there and i wasn't. menno and stripes were dope. i personally have always loved stripes flava! dude's sick.
I really wanted Lil G and Alvin to win, powermove isn't really appreciated, but I love it because it's energetic and really challenging to perform. Routine was all Powermove and was performed brilliantly, me and the whole crowd got pumped up from it, that's why I love powermove. I'm good at breakdancing, but in this final Menno and Stripes were very boring compared to Lil G and Alvin. But respect to everyone! And thanks to Alvin and Lil G for the bright finale.
@@ITSPOSSIBLE-qr9yp Bboys won't agree? This is not true. B-boys who like the style like bboy Blond or for example Physicx will very much agree with me. I know the rules of breakdancing and unfortunately the victory according to the rules goes to Menno. It's like in football, Germany beats Brazil, but you still understand that Brazil plays better and brighter, you know? There are those who perform with talent and brightness, and there are those who perform strictly according to the manual; the manual will win, but no one will like it.
They went hard this round, but not as hard as comments gunna be about the results. I watched it over again and after close battle analysis I think Alvin and Lil G may have came into this too cocky like they already won. Maybe next time they'll focus on the win and stop clowning. That routine was so fuego too should have saved it for last round.
Woooow. So they needed to give so hard. While Menno and stripes didn't even come to there levels. Men men what a world! So if Menno roll over the ground u need to to give everything in your best way to beat it. 😅 Lets all roll over the floor. Maybe then we all draw.
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It’s apparent that stripes and Menno won. If you look at it round for round you will understand. 🙏🏼 They literally won by a couple rounds difference. Menno won most his rounds 2/3 if not 3/3. Stripes came a little short in his last couple rounds compared to Alvin yet was very intentional with what he was doing. Lil G and alvin displayed dope skills, but many of the times they were facing the wrong direction or having sloppy exits. They did have a couple of awesome runs, but the arc of their throwdowns became disjointed. Another problem they had was staying on the floor too long - when stripes came in and completely disrupted two his openers… judges don’t like that & that’s fair to say. Alvin‘s last throwdown was the best of their whole set from his side. If all their throwdowns were like that - it might have been maybe a different story. The judges are catching things that you do not see. Most are watching the battle like a fan and not like a judge. For battle spectators, or participants: Probably a good idea to humble yourself first and try to understand why they make those decisions and why the judges are qualified to be in those seats. A breaking battle is like a game of chess; both sides have equal opportunity, but what you do with the pieces and at what time - is what matters. definitely a lot more people need to study breaking instead of just fan boying it. It’s “b-boy .. not “f-boy” So many comments i see about the battle are very immature. One day when you get older if you love the dance enough, you’ll understand why decisions are made, Peace and one love. Fifth element of hip-hop is knowledge. “You must learn” - Krs 1
Pues yo te diré que también el Break define al ganador con mejor estilo ( y más si es Red Bull). El mejor estilo debe tener sus movimientos definidos ¿Donde demonios ves que los movimientos de Menno fueron exclusivos y definidos? , repitió reiteradas veces las mismas rutinas , tirandose de espaldas a efecto rebote , eso no gana hombre , el footwork (trabajo de pies) casi desdibujado , y eso que él baila mucho mejor que esas demostraciones. Si tu apoyas eso . Felicidades , te convertiste en un mercenario del Break dance .
Decent event but the crowd was probably drained lol i can see most had their phones out... The judging had a factor and some of the battles were hyped and some were not but again Decent event congrats to sweet technique and peace
The point is that judges see little slips. And yes, Alvin and Lil G had them. But they also don't understand that high-level "powermove" moves like they do have a high probability of failure, while Menno and Stripes moves stay in a standard spot where the probability of failure is minimal (in a safety zone). The judges do not balance this. So each time the compensation of doing a high level powermove is less and less, and it is sad to see it. Because this is the striking feature of breaking.
This is dancing, not acrobatics. The "striking feature" is style and flow. alvin and g seemed too primitive. Caged themselves in a limited powermove set.
@@mad_t Lil g & Alvin “Dance” as powermoves. They gave their moves “spirits”, same as other bboys doing their sets. And that’s what we called “style” isn’t it?
@@mad_t this is not only dancing, so why exist powermove? exist because is part of this, and there are many people who put his effort doing more creative and difficult powermove, is part of breaking
@@Mentha_spicata you gotta watch the other rounds too, lil g and alvin always doin airfares and 90s, a lot of repetitiveness! I think menno and stripes had way more vocab through their sets. just my opinion but judges gave the win to menno and stripes for a reason, remember that
@@TheMarco43Remember deez nutzzz .. Robbery plain and simple .. What more do you want ? they had style they danced did for work and power .. Hell they even did a routine
I watched this batttle last night and I saw Lil G and Alvin winning. I rewatched the battle tonight without the hype and I can see why the judges voted for Menno and Stripes. Vinotinto had their moments but Stripes and Menno were more consistent with their rounds throughout the battle. Lil G had slips in almost all his rounds. The battle was close and that is why every detail counts.
Menno and Stripes crashed a lot in the rounds!!!!! Menno crashed a hella times... And every time Menno crashed you could see him winding up to go again!! Even Stripes crashed a few times... This was straight robbery, there's no way that lil G and Alvin lost real ways....
I don't agree with the people calling this a robbery. You got 1 team that are basically only doing powermoves with a lil bit of musicality with over 5 crashes semi-saved (Alvin's first set alone had 3). Then you have the other team that are performing all aspects of breakin, flow, top-rock, threadin, musicality, originality, etc pretty much 100% clean. Landslide victory for Stripes & Menno.
Esos dos muchachos no solo tiraron movimientos de poder , veo personas diciendo que solo tiraron llamaradas y air flare, también tienen buenos juegos de pies y sincronías , pero claro tuvieron dos errores en ejecución , no obstante, no quitan que sus movimientos son más fluidos, que solo arrastrarse por el maldito suelo sin definir o ejecutar bien un maldito congelado hombre . Menno no ejecutó bien ni un maldito congelado, se trabó dos veces en su juego de pies y esto que ? No contó ? No apoyes esta pendejada .Los jueces andan de paseo en vez de calificar !
@@kana8east stripes repeating reverse halos 3 times during the event, doing a sixstep then standing up is more interesting to you? the battle was 1v2 stripes clearly gave up, menno crashed and repeated tech. Alvin did not repeat the whole event (airflares and flares are generic moves, repeats dont count like with sixstep or mills), lil g defo crashed but the scores should still add up to Alvin & Lil G imo
Every round in this battle was smoked by Stripes and Menno hands down. No hard feelings to Lil G and Alvin but you can’t win your rounds with crashes and repeats.
I liked that LOTF came back after 23 years later! I applaud everyone in this one for bringing it! Cheers! HOWEVER...I felt that some winners didn't really win. Those that really did GREAT overall lost. Idk WHY. PERSONALLY it should've been Boogie Brats vs Valentino as the final. Or Style Elements vs Valentino or Style Elements vs Boogie Brats. Heck I was surprised Hong 10 & Physicx lost on the 1st round of battles. Honestly, the entire competition had its moments BUT nothing compared to LOTF 2002!!! 2002 had MEMORABLE and LEGENDARY battles and sets. 2002 felt more hyped and FIRE 🔥. This one 2024 felt eh honestly. Hopefully the next one will be better!
Korea lost the first round because Physics were not in shape... Stop talking BS. Physics is a freaking legend but it's really hard to maintain breaking past 35. Hong 10 is inhuman.
I agree 💯 percent final shouldn’t been boogie brats vs strippers and meno .boogie brats had rocking to the rest down is what now at days no one has next time
@masteryas21 it's not BS, bro. They did well enough to at least pass unto the next round. Would've they won? Probably not. BUT is that one statement the only thing you called BS? Or are you telling me that my WHOLE post was BS? Because 2002 was no BS. 2002 was A LOT more crazier and LEGENDARY than this year's. No doubt.
@masteryas21 dude...it's hard to maintain breaking after 35?? Do you know how old Bboys like Kmel, Ruen, Crumbs and many other US legends are and STILL bboy like OGs?? Them cats are OLD but still WIN battles my guy.
"Verdaderos ganadores Lil G y Alvin" (Venezuela).🏆🥇🏆 Ya yo no creo en los resultados de estas batallas, demasiado descaros y demasiado robos. Ya esto dejó de ser una verdadera competición justa y real, por una producción arreglada a su conveniencia.
Siempre fue a si en una batalla de monster el jurado siempre le da ganador al talento no a la marca en red bull diempre es de la marca red bull nunca vera ganar a un monster aunque se lo merezca
Try to understand the rules of breaking today. If a move or flow is kept on repeating again and again in every rounds. Is a BIG MINUS POINTS TO A JUDGE. Whether you are powerhead or stylehead or both😑.. If there is footwork, there is musicality. If there is powermove, its circus act. But you can do both if you're genius.
This always happens in the scene! I see why... but in the end judges are only judging based on pure breaking and flow, they dont give a crap about energy, powermoves, or musicality, or hard moves! Vinotinto had it pure and clearly. That's just sad they got robbed! Again Menno & Stripes are overall beasts and the can do it all too, but let's judge by overall energy and vibes the battle. And even the whole night! They were the ones bringing that energy up every battle! MVPs for sure Alvin and Lil G. But great stuff redbull for putting this one together!
I think it’s time for powermove to get their « own world » all that work to loose against basics sixstep, it’s looks like a political action Winner LIL G / ALVIN No doubt
🧢🧢, just because you put in a lot of work on moves. Doesn’t make it better than footwork and style. Plus they ran out of moves. You can easily see that. Lil G crashed. Alvin for sure repeated all competition. How do you give someone the victory. When he did the same move combos from the previous battles that day??
2024 and judges still turning a blind eye to style/power. Crazy. Lil G and Alvin CLEARLY showed up to smoke. What r These judges watching 😂. It’s 2024 guys not fuckn 1980.
people who think breaking is just all about moving fast and power moves will never understand others winning and will just be confused forever... oh well, maybe one day youll learn
So breaking should be all about footwork. I wonder how popular breaking will be without the presence and the influence of the power movers. Power heads should just get their own competition. This yearly excuse is sickening
That speech was invented by the bboys who became obsolete when the new generations raised the level of play, and that speech is repeated by those who cannot do powermoves. powermoves were invented from freezes, so they are also a foundation
@@blackmanaigbiremolen2143 what’s sad and sickening is that people don’t spend time to actually study the people who are the architects of this dance. People who created things that you guys do before most were even born . And then most people have the audacity to talk crap . All you gotta do is study the dance, and you will understand from a judges perspective 😅 But most people watching battles with their own subjective bias. Anyway, they don’t look at things objectively. If you genuinely wanna know why these guys won, I can break it down for you . At some point most people gotta ask themselves why is it that my favorite dancers keep losing; maybe has something to do with you not understanding the dance itself, It’s ok. Y’all will get there if you love it 🙏🏼enough.
With it being a 2v2 I think any kind of commando deserves a little more especially when executed well. I thought Alvin carried the two of them more all night, but nevertheless I was just happy to see Lords of the Floor again!
I already knew who was going to win. Alvin and Lil G need to create a lot of "original" moves. They can't just do hand hops and flares all night and think they will win. It gets played out.
No estoy de acuerdo . Esos muchachos Venezolanos destruyeron el piso literalmente , sabemos que no solo trata de poder , pero si analizamos en si las rutinas de Menno fueron reiterativas y repetitivas, Menno no definió bien ni un maldito congelado , le faltó juego de pies , caer de espaldas en rebote no te hace ganar hombre !! Esto es un desastre !
Menno and Stripes more b boy flow, Lil G and Alivin better power moves and not as much style….eh. Menno is always the same..Lil G is power moves and floorwork looks like he needs to practice more. Really it was down to Alvin and Stripes and Alvin edged it. Feels like a true tie…needed a decider final round
Que no tienen estilo ? Mira de nuevo hombre. Si , tiraron airflare ambos pero , también combinados de juego de pies y top rock que es lo que queremos ver . Un bboy debe ser capaz de tener más fluidez , Menno no definió ni un puto congelado hombre !!
Alvin and Lil G won, wtf, Lil G may loose against menno , Alvins set compared to stripes can fill in all the gaps and make team vinotinto Won the battle. I don't know what's with the judges. This is a Complete robbery. First with Hong 10 Physicx vs Menno and Stripes.
Yeah and he also has crashes and repeats and no footworks to answer back against stripes so idk which battle you were watching because clearly all of Lil G’s rounds and Alvin’s rounds were smoked by simple moves. 😂😂😂
Lilg y alvin repiten muchos sus movimientos, menno le sobra repertorio, difícil que repita movimientos, tiene un poco de todo, estilo flow, es completo. Por algo es 3 veces campeón del bc one. Los otros, pues… siempre lo ven participar jaja
"True winners Lil G and Alvin" (Venezuela).🏆🥇🏆 I no longer believe in the results of these battles, too much impudence and too much theft. This was no longer a truly fair and real competition, for a production arranged at their convenience.
That was a close one , Lil g and Alvin should have won judging on the dance but because of thiers behaviour 7:35 (you should let the place and let the opponent do his move) it's very unfortunate to ruin the the good round you just did before because of that. They did a lot of touching in other battles too I think that's why they lost
they're supposedly judged on the criterias of: creativity, personality, technique, variety, performativity and musicality. but like all performance competitions there will be biases among the judges, and we saw that today. the crowd should judge who won ngl
Was there live at the end of the day both groups crashed in different ways, the judging was very close I wouldn't want to be the one judging this one that's for sure.
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No no, I think Lil g And Alvin deserve to win
No no, I think Lil G and alvin deserve to Win
Gracias por robar otro competitivo con injusticia
@@RedBullBCOne ganó team vino tinto 🔥🇨🇴💪🏻
🇨🇴🔥
So everyone ignores Hong 10 just sitting in crowd enjoying himself, what a legend.
You can do that when yk one of the goats
Menno put him in his place 1st round😂
That’s why he’s one of the best to do it because he truly loves the art. Whether he’s competing or spectating he’s enjoying himself.
shut up fanboy
Goat
Lords of robery
Not once, not twice, but many times in this event. Like there are lots of teams could have won 😂
@@tripleaces659Red Bull Standard 🤡
@@prodred42 Hence the name you gave it man, accurate 🤣
Because Menno is Storm's wife😂😂😂
Menno always robs because they want to give it to a white dude smh
My vote for Lil G and Alvin. I understand that breaking doesn't value powermoves as much as the flow an dancing itself, but team Venezuela had an insane level of energy and spirit compared to the over team. Come on, Lil G is like 35 years old and has more energy than Menno and Stripes combined!
Yeah I think at some point high power and technicality trumps musicality, right? Otherwise you could just top rock on beat all day lol imagine losing to a 6 step on beat 😂
Menno and stripes also 35+ lol
well lil g crashed a lot, and alvin was repeating a lot the entire competition, they crearly ran out of moves in the final
@@Sinistra359 i think bboy judging has become more about styyle now, which sucks. Power moves are hard to learn and do correctly, idk why so many Old judges value style more than power. A bboy should have style, power, and musicality to be the best bboy in the world. This is why idk how menno won so many red bull bc, hes too simple and not the best bboy
@droptopp3479 Power is the easiest brainless thing to learn just keep at it. Know real throught into, not saying it isn't physically demanding just not, creatively difficult.
Menno, lords of rolling on the floor!!
So, Lil G & Alvin fly too high to get crown of the floor... ...😅
TEAM VINOTINTO IS THE CHAMP, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS!!!!!
Lil G and Alvin Winners!!
Really want to see Menno and Stripes team up more in the future. Seeing them rocking old beats is just so good.
Lil G and Alvin even did a routine on top of not crashing. Alvin destroyed them litteraly by himself with foot work, power, originality and even dances. ROBBERY
Lousy crowds make it easy to rob
It probably feels like it when you only watch the final battle. Lil G crashed a few times, both him and Alvin were repetitive - flare, airflare combo each round... Flashy, powermove routines are just not it, man.
"on top of not crashing" 🤣🤣🤣
Bla bla bla
Lil G crashed hard his first set.... Stripe/Menno = Chess... Lil G/Alvin = Checkers...
Hong10 win
Its unbeliavable, i battle agaisnt Enano and Lil G almost 20 years ago in Circle Prinz Brazil - 7 to smoke (2007), we are just young guys. Now Lil G its a pro Bboy, Enano was the winner of 7 to smoke and i never heard about him anymore. I got 3rd place and i quit breaking in 2012.
Yet another BC One final given to of course, Menno. King of rolling around on the floor.
hace años que no veía las batallas y bueno para mi bien ganado menno y stripes, jajaja menno sigue con su cerebro fluido
lol that's why it's called lords of the floor.
menno bored me..
Menno and stripes were so boring lol
Menno really represents bboying as a "cleaining the ground dance" XD
Esses jurados não votam em quem Ganha, eles Votam em quem é amigo deles....
썩은 비보이판 ㅋㅋ
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK se for chorar manda audio boy
Sempre é roubado
11:03 Crowd is so dead
9:25 also 😂😂
For real yo, the whole night the crowd just didnt seem very livid at all
Why didn’t you go then and scream for 3 1/2 hours?
@@BushidoBoyd 🤡
@@BushidoBoyd 🤡
Todo el público sabe que ganó TEAM VINO TINTO pero lamentablemente quieren que USA sea potencia en todo.
Usen la lógica Dos Venecos la partieron duro 🔥
Les partieron el alma esos panas toros saben que ellos ganaron mucha creatividad power todo ❤
Que energía la de Venezuela, para mi son mis GANADORES, gracias por llevar el nombre de Venezuela a lo mas alto del pedestal, muchachos estuvieron y son INCREIBLES
Wtf the judges ? Lil g and Alvin the real winner of the night
this is what happens when you have stone age bboy like storm in the judges.
They shouldn’t made it past The Squadron
When is the DVD 📀 coming out?
DVD ?????
great question !
😂😂😂😂😂
I genuinely think Lil g’s and Alvin’s presentation was on top of Stripes and Menno. Big props to this four bboys and great battle
Venezuela campeón 🇻🇪
Bro, pelezinho never ceases to annoy me, even when he's just an spectator 🤣
😂
Ejend
He salty cause his boys were getting smoked.
Was pelenzinho showing middle finger to Stripes?
Yes why he did that 😢
Because stripes show his middle finger first and trash talk to Pelezinho but we can't see the middle because Alvin is in front
POrque quando veio ao Brasil! Stripes foi desrespeitado por muitos bboys.... eu sou Brasileiroo...Pelézinho é uma merda de pessoal...
@@eggsystillroc97 These stripes are very strange.
@@igorstyle2ouf OK😯
dis battle was heated. that dude with the white binnie... lol flipping off Stripes... lol, he may have caused the chamos this battle imho. i personally thought lil g and alvin had this. but the judges were there and i wasn't. menno and stripes were dope. i personally have always loved stripes flava! dude's sick.
I really wanted Lil G and Alvin to win, powermove isn't really appreciated, but I love it because it's energetic and really challenging to perform. Routine was all Powermove and was performed brilliantly, me and the whole crowd got pumped up from it, that's why I love powermove. I'm good at breakdancing, but in this final Menno and Stripes were very boring compared to Lil G and Alvin. But respect to everyone! And thanks to Alvin and Lil G for the bright finale.
Yes but remember its « dance »
I can't even tell Menno is dancing or sweeping the floor...
A Breakdancer would agree with you. But a "BBOY" wouldn't. 🥱
@@ITSPOSSIBLE-qr9yp Bboys won't agree? This is not true. B-boys who like the style like bboy Blond or for example Physicx will very much agree with me. I know the rules of breakdancing and unfortunately the victory according to the rules goes to Menno. It's like in football, Germany beats Brazil, but you still understand that Brazil plays better and brighter, you know? There are those who perform with talent and brightness, and there are those who perform strictly according to the manual; the manual will win, but no one will like it.
Issin and Shigekix were supposed to be in this final
without workout pls
bro soo many robberys on this tournament
For sure
For sure x2
They went hard this round, but not as hard as comments gunna be about the results. I watched it over again and after close battle analysis I think Alvin and Lil G may have came into this too cocky like they already won. Maybe next time they'll focus on the win and stop clowning. That routine was so fuego too should have saved it for last round.
its a 2v2. As good as Alvin was, lil g needed to give a little more and then i think they wouldve won
Woooow. So they needed to give so hard. While Menno and stripes didn't even come to there levels. Men men what a world! So if Menno roll over the ground u need to to give everything in your best way to beat it. 😅 Lets all roll over the floor. Maybe then we all draw.
2:50 anyone know this song?? I can't find it anywhere 😅
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It’s apparent that stripes and Menno won.
If you look at it round for round you will understand. 🙏🏼
They literally won by a couple rounds difference. Menno won most his rounds 2/3 if not 3/3. Stripes came a little short in his last couple rounds compared to Alvin yet was very intentional with what he was doing.
Lil G and alvin displayed dope skills, but many of the times they were facing the wrong direction or having sloppy exits. They did have a couple of awesome runs, but the arc of their throwdowns became disjointed. Another problem they had was staying on the floor too long - when stripes came in and completely disrupted two his openers… judges don’t like that & that’s fair to say.
Alvin‘s last throwdown was the best of their whole set from his side. If all their throwdowns were like that - it might have been maybe a different story.
The judges are catching things that you do not see. Most are watching the battle like a fan and not like a judge.
For battle spectators, or participants:
Probably a good idea to humble yourself first and try to understand why they make those decisions and why the judges are qualified to be in those seats.
A breaking battle is like a game of chess; both sides have equal opportunity, but what you do with the pieces and at what time - is what matters.
definitely a lot more people need to study breaking instead of just fan boying it. It’s “b-boy .. not “f-boy”
So many comments i see about the battle are very immature. One day when you get older if you love the dance enough, you’ll understand why decisions are made,
Peace and one love. Fifth element of hip-hop is knowledge.
“You must learn” - Krs 1
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Pues yo te diré que también el Break define al ganador con mejor estilo ( y más si es Red Bull). El mejor estilo debe tener sus movimientos definidos ¿Donde demonios ves que los movimientos de Menno fueron exclusivos y definidos? , repitió reiteradas veces las mismas rutinas , tirandose de espaldas a efecto rebote , eso no gana hombre , el footwork (trabajo de pies) casi desdibujado , y eso que él baila mucho mejor que esas demostraciones.
Si tu apoyas eso . Felicidades , te convertiste en un mercenario del Break dance .
Honte à vous victoire les vrai winner sont l équipe de @lilgvenezuela respect à eux la seul chose que vous aller gagner c le boycott .😡😡😡😡
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Decent event but the crowd was probably drained lol i can see most had their phones out... The judging had a factor and some of the battles were hyped and some were not but again Decent event congrats to sweet technique and peace
The point is that judges see little slips. And yes, Alvin and Lil G had them. But they also don't understand that high-level "powermove" moves like they do have a high probability of failure, while Menno and Stripes moves stay in a standard spot where the probability of failure is minimal (in a safety zone). The judges do not balance this. So each time the compensation of doing a high level powermove is less and less, and it is sad to see it. Because this is the striking feature of breaking.
This is dancing, not acrobatics. The "striking feature" is style and flow. alvin and g seemed too primitive. Caged themselves in a limited powermove set.
@@mad_t
Lil g & Alvin “Dance” as powermoves.
They gave their moves “spirits”, same as other bboys doing their sets.
And that’s what we called “style” isn’t it?
@@mad_t this is not only dancing, so why exist powermove? exist because is part of this, and there are many people who put his effort doing more creative and difficult powermove, is part of breaking
@@Mentha_spicata you gotta watch the other rounds too, lil g and alvin always doin airfares and 90s, a lot of repetitiveness! I think menno and stripes had way more vocab through their sets. just my opinion but judges gave the win to menno and stripes for a reason, remember that
@@TheMarco43Remember deez nutzzz .. Robbery plain and simple .. What more do you want ? they had style they danced did for work and power .. Hell they even did a routine
Alvin querendo zoar o Menno por "limpar o chão", enquanto praticamente só faz Air Flare de diferenciado...
Zoar é fácil, difícil é ser melhor que ele! sksksksk
@@Anotaaibobao então, quem acompanha o cenário e entende os fundamentos sabe o quão absurdo de bom o Menno é.
MUSCLES AND AGILITY , I LOVE IT . . . !
I watched this batttle last night and I saw Lil G and Alvin winning. I rewatched the battle tonight without the hype and I can see why the judges voted for Menno and Stripes. Vinotinto had their moments but Stripes and Menno were more consistent with their rounds throughout the battle. Lil G had slips in almost all his rounds. The battle was close and that is why every detail counts.
same for me
Menno and Stripes crashed a lot in the rounds!!!!! Menno crashed a hella times... And every time Menno crashed you could see him winding up to go again!! Even Stripes crashed a few times... This was straight robbery, there's no way that lil G and Alvin lost real ways....
@@cecilsee But they keep moving, when Lil G crashes he stands up, well that's what I see
@@crazypopbeats Menno and Stripes lost in reality!!!!
@@crazypopbeats boy same movement of falling to the ground? always repeating.
I don't agree with the people calling this a robbery. You got 1 team that are basically only doing powermoves with a lil bit of musicality with over 5 crashes semi-saved (Alvin's first set alone had 3). Then you have the other team that are performing all aspects of breakin, flow, top-rock, threadin, musicality, originality, etc pretty much 100% clean. Landslide victory for Stripes & Menno.
😂 Lol me no and stripe repeat all Same thing again and again and again, very básic and bored. Alvin & lil g win and every body know that 😂
lmao
Esos dos muchachos no solo tiraron movimientos de poder , veo personas diciendo que solo tiraron llamaradas y air flare, también tienen buenos juegos de pies y sincronías , pero claro tuvieron dos errores en ejecución , no obstante, no quitan que sus movimientos son más fluidos, que solo arrastrarse por el maldito suelo sin definir o ejecutar bien un maldito congelado hombre . Menno no ejecutó bien ni un maldito congelado, se trabó dos veces en su juego de pies y esto que ? No contó ?
No apoyes esta pendejada .Los jueces andan de paseo en vez de calificar !
STYLE OVER EVERYTHING
ABSOLUTELY 💯. TRUE BBOYING.
STYLE " POWER " over boring sweeping .
@@2swole4u74 dance boy
fuk style. every lazy bboys excuse.
Just an excuse not to learn moves and grow as a dancer
Judges were on their phones or what? Alvin and lilg destroyed the floor!
Yeah, lil g and lil g with other hair destroyed every round with airflares, its so interesting to watch!
Just say you don't understand the dance cause your favorite guys didn't win.
@@kana8east 😂
@@kana8east stripes repeating reverse halos 3 times during the event, doing a sixstep then standing up is more interesting to you? the battle was 1v2 stripes clearly gave up, menno crashed and repeated tech. Alvin did not repeat the whole event (airflares and flares are generic moves, repeats dont count like with sixstep or mills), lil g defo crashed but the scores should still add up to Alvin & Lil G imo
@@prodathena Stripes and Menno are dancing, Lil G and Alvin doing some gymnastic moves, yeah they have energy and rizz, but this is not dancing
This was the correct winner. Any true b-boy/girl would understand the decision.
Every round in this battle was smoked by Stripes and Menno hands down. No hard feelings to Lil G and Alvin but you can’t win your rounds with crashes and repeats.
I liked that LOTF came back after 23 years later! I applaud everyone in this one for bringing it! Cheers!
HOWEVER...I felt that some winners didn't really win. Those that really did GREAT overall lost. Idk WHY.
PERSONALLY it should've been Boogie Brats vs Valentino as the final. Or Style Elements vs Valentino or Style Elements vs Boogie Brats. Heck I was surprised Hong 10 & Physicx lost on the 1st round of battles.
Honestly, the entire competition had its moments BUT nothing compared to LOTF 2002!!! 2002 had MEMORABLE and LEGENDARY battles and sets. 2002 felt more hyped and FIRE 🔥. This one 2024 felt eh honestly. Hopefully the next one will be better!
Yeah, I bet the next one will pick up and get better again. That's what I'm hoping for.
Korea lost the first round because Physics were not in shape... Stop talking BS. Physics is a freaking legend but it's really hard to maintain breaking past 35. Hong 10 is inhuman.
I agree 💯 percent final shouldn’t been boogie brats vs strippers and meno .boogie brats had rocking to the rest down is what now at days no one has next time
@masteryas21 it's not BS, bro. They did well enough to at least pass unto the next round. Would've they won? Probably not. BUT is that one statement the only thing you called BS? Or are you telling me that my WHOLE post was BS? Because 2002 was no BS. 2002 was A LOT more crazier and LEGENDARY than this year's. No doubt.
@masteryas21 dude...it's hard to maintain breaking after 35?? Do you know how old Bboys like Kmel, Ruen, Crumbs and many other US legends are and STILL bboy like OGs?? Them cats are OLD but still WIN battles my guy.
"Verdaderos ganadores Lil G y Alvin" (Venezuela).🏆🥇🏆
Ya yo no creo en los resultados de estas batallas, demasiado descaros y demasiado robos. Ya esto dejó de ser una verdadera competición justa y real, por una producción arreglada a su conveniencia.
😂
Siempre fue a si en una batalla de monster el jurado siempre le da ganador al talento no a la marca en red bull diempre es de la marca red bull nunca vera ganar a un monster aunque se lo merezca
Try to understand the rules of breaking today. If a move or flow is kept on repeating again and again in every rounds. Is a BIG MINUS POINTS TO A JUDGE. Whether you are powerhead or stylehead or both😑.. If there is footwork, there is musicality. If there is powermove, its circus act. But you can do both if you're genius.
This always happens in the scene! I see why... but in the end judges are only judging based on pure breaking and flow, they dont give a crap about energy, powermoves, or musicality, or hard moves! Vinotinto had it pure and clearly. That's just sad they got robbed! Again Menno & Stripes are overall beasts and the can do it all too, but let's judge by overall energy and vibes the battle. And even the whole night! They were the ones bringing that energy up every battle! MVPs for sure Alvin and Lil G. But great stuff redbull for putting this one together!
Lil g turns into lil crash with all rounds
Judges was the worst, AL & G got that dub foreal,
Naw
You are worst jajaj😂
Only power move 🧐
Guys in comments cry soo much
agree
they crying about the dude who crashed in his first round in the finals during a headstand freeze
I think it’s time for powermove to get their « own world » all that work to loose against basics sixstep, it’s looks like a political action
Winner LIL G / ALVIN
No doubt
🧢🧢, just because you put in a lot of work on moves. Doesn’t make it better than footwork and style. Plus they ran out of moves. You can easily see that. Lil G crashed. Alvin for sure repeated all competition. How do you give someone the victory. When he did the same move combos from the previous battles that day??
@@edwardbanuelos2135 ur comment is a good argument but actually I am not the only one who think that judging is wrong.
@@edwardbanuelos2135 😂😂😂😂 finally somebody gets it!
2024 and judges still turning a blind eye to style/power. Crazy. Lil G and Alvin CLEARLY showed up to smoke. What r These judges watching 😂. It’s 2024 guys not fuckn 1980.
palazino just shut ur mouth. you're done since 2006
So the Internet is all powerheads. Noted✅. Because menno/stripes def cooked them boys.
cooked ? Hardly. Menno moped the floor all night 😴 Same oh ish
LOL keep dreaming. Crowd barely reacted when they won. 10 people agreed with that decision…
More like fried.
Big Fail to Judges!!! WTF 🤬 The winner is Alvin and LIL G! No more oldschool Judges!
Bullshit
originality and foundation (stripes and stripes) >>> just a power move
stripes is too good
Menno did all his signatures: boring moves, lame moves, bite sign. Just as his 3 BC One, got it on a robery. Congrats to the legit winners.
😂😂😂 yeah the legit winners are Stripes and Menno 😂😂😂😂
people who think breaking is just all about moving fast and power moves will never understand others winning and will just be confused forever... oh well, maybe one day youll learn
So breaking should be all about footwork.
I wonder how popular breaking will be without the presence and the influence of the power movers.
Power heads should just get their own competition. This yearly excuse is sickening
@blackmanaigbiremolen2143 you completely missed the point, it shouldn't be ALL about footwork either lol
That speech was invented by the bboys who became obsolete when the new generations raised the level of play, and that speech is repeated by those who cannot do powermoves. powermoves were invented from freezes, so they are also a foundation
@@blackmanaigbiremolen2143 what’s sad and sickening is that people don’t spend time to actually study the people who are the architects of this dance.
People who created things that you guys do before most were even born .
And then most people have the audacity to talk crap .
All you gotta do is study the dance, and you will understand from a judges perspective 😅
But most people watching battles with their own subjective bias. Anyway, they don’t look at things objectively.
If you genuinely wanna know why these guys won, I can break it down for you .
At some point most people gotta ask themselves why is it that my favorite dancers keep losing; maybe has something to do with you not understanding the dance itself, It’s ok. Y’all will get there if you love it 🙏🏼enough.
maybe one day they dance
Stripes & menno clearly won, check repeats from Alvin & lilG in previous battle against Isin & Shigi
With it being a 2v2 I think any kind of commando deserves a little more especially when executed well. I thought Alvin carried the two of them more all night, but nevertheless I was just happy to see Lords of the Floor again!
I already knew who was going to win. Alvin and Lil G need to create a lot of "original" moves. They can't just do hand hops and flares all night and think they will win. It gets played out.
No estoy de acuerdo . Esos muchachos Venezolanos destruyeron el piso literalmente , sabemos que no solo trata de poder , pero si analizamos en si las rutinas de Menno fueron reiterativas y repetitivas, Menno no definió bien ni un maldito congelado , le faltó juego de pies , caer de espaldas en rebote no te hace ganar hombre !! Esto es un desastre !
we had to watch all these incredible spins without the music. The guy had the microphone forever, just yelling every second
His partner Ni takes him by the hand in the final decision, because he knew they were lost. lil G Alvin 🙌🏻👏
Menno and Stripes more b boy flow, Lil G and Alivin better power moves and not as much style….eh. Menno is always the same..Lil G is power moves and floorwork looks like he needs to practice more. Really it was down to Alvin and Stripes and Alvin edged it. Feels like a true tie…needed a decider final round
Que no tienen estilo ? Mira de nuevo hombre. Si , tiraron airflare ambos pero , también combinados de juego de pies y top rock que es lo que queremos ver . Un bboy debe ser capaz de tener más fluidez , Menno no definió ni un puto congelado hombre !!
Alvin and Lil G won, wtf, Lil G may loose against menno , Alvins set compared to stripes can fill in all the gaps and make team vinotinto Won the battle. I don't know what's with the judges. This is a Complete robbery. First with Hong 10 Physicx vs Menno and Stripes.
Lil g was really inconsistent. Couldn’t finish most of his combos without obvious crashes
alvin was repeating a lot, crearly ran out of moves since the semi finals
Lil G and Alvin won By far but REALLY FAR 😂
Fake judge👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What was that at 9:29?
Lil g and Alvin won by not that little.
I love them and I was hoping they would win, but Menno and Stripe deserve the win. No doubt.
@@masteryas21 why?
Alvin had all the moves. Powermoves, freezes, toprocks and footworks and still they loss that?? Bs robbery of the year
Footwork? 😂
Yeah and he also has crashes and repeats and no footworks to answer back against stripes so idk which battle you were watching because clearly all of Lil G’s rounds and Alvin’s rounds were smoked by simple moves. 😂😂😂
Lol, what footwork? Alvin and Lil G have low-level footwork
Stripes & menno are legends 💯💯💯
facts! everyone here crying about robbery is GOLDEN.
Every sets of Menno and Stripes very clean in all battles... Just Winners 🔥
Very clean and bored 😂 we are in 2024 not in 1980 zzzz
lets goooooo menno and stripes. the best
1:20 🔥
Esperemos que en la siguiente edición LOF inviten 2 duplas latinoamericanas
Lil G & Alfin the real winner. 👌👍👍👍
did i just watch a seizure awareness PSA
It's crazy that people think Al and LilG got robbed. Airfare every round, Crashes, no musicality. Comeon now.
agree
Sadly ppl are missing knowledge
Crashes? Where, that's crazy
crashes ? Nah the boring floor moppers got smoked
@@davidnavas446 0:30
Alvin is the MVP. Bro is fresh!
Lil g y alvin 🤯🔥 Power, style, originality, music... Uffs! Campeones del pueblo!💪🏻
LIL G & ALVIN WON💯💯💯
nope they lost
Not fare decision.
Lilg y alvin repiten muchos sus movimientos, menno le sobra repertorio, difícil que repita movimientos, tiene un poco de todo, estilo flow, es completo. Por algo es 3 veces campeón del bc one. Los otros, pues… siempre lo ven participar jaja
"True winners Lil G and Alvin" (Venezuela).🏆🥇🏆
I no longer believe in the results of these battles, too much impudence and too much theft. This was no longer a truly fair and real competition, for a production arranged at their convenience.
That was a close one , Lil g and Alvin should have won judging on the dance but because of thiers behaviour 7:35 (you should let the place and let the opponent do his move) it's very unfortunate to ruin the the good round you just did before because of that. They did a lot of touching in other battles too I think that's why they lost
i didn't even notice that .. yeah, i could see that being the difference maker in the judges eyes.
Name of the first song?
Hong 10 enjoying the show :D
Winner Venezuela 🔥🔥
看到physicx 跟hong 10 在16強就被刷掉就知道這些評審根本來亂的
然后又是抹地高手拿冠军。看了都累
Physicx 失手
Aceita
我能想到的就是評審故意讓小日本失敗好讓menno合理的獲勝
Alvin e lil g ganharam essa de lavada
Boy kamel é a Lenda 👨🏻🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥
How do they judge this ?
they're supposedly judged on the criterias of: creativity, personality, technique, variety, performativity and musicality. but like all performance competitions there will be biases among the judges, and we saw that today. the crowd should judge who won ngl
@@koketsu Crowed doesn’t hype up anymore so much too crowds can give you some energy back. But know I understand how they judge thanks .
@@koketsu The crowd don't know how to judge. If you let the crowd judge, anytime Pocket battles someone Pocket would win.
what kind of drama is this between Stripes and Pelezinho??
Mennoo is so clean
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Alvin is worthy, but for me, the winners were wronged in the semi-final
Are jurors blind?
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Was there live at the end of the day both groups crashed in different ways, the judging was very close I wouldn't want to be the one judging this one that's for sure.
Final real physicx & Hong 10 vs shigekix & issin
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