How To Be Color Neutral | Tips & Misconceptions
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- The most common approaches for transitioning to color neutral from fixed cross, how I did it, and what to expect!
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J Perm can you pls stop mirroring youre video pls.. because its affect my solving alot. I suggest to you a lefty tutorial..
Me: Tries red cross
Also Me: Does white cross on red face.
Lol🤣, but the worst is when you do the white cross on yellow side cuz u think the yellow is the white
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yes
Worse thing is when you do am f2l pair with white corner I stead of yellow while doing a yellow cross solve
Haha sometimes I pair up an f2l pair to the wrong color but I don’t do that anymore. Key thing, start being color neutral right after you can solve a cube. I was already becoming color neutral after I could do beginner’s method. Don’t over think it.
how to be color neutral:
step one: Become color neutral (0:54)
Very useful....
The most useful tip
this made me laugh good one lol
lol
O my God I followed this tip and did it instantly thanks j perm
Lol
I became color neutral immediately after I learned how to solve the cube so the transition was extremely easy.
I learned it too but still it decreases a lot of time to be color neutral.(Mostly in F2L)
I switched after two weeks of cubing (probably averaging 1:50 or something).
@@TheWildScizor9731 You get used to it after a while, after a while I got completely used to it.
@@aloknight3656 My problem was F2L. I started searching the white corner pieces :(
Now with quite a practice, I have succeed.
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I switched when I was averaging mid 7,I did the best cross everytime,and I practiced on and off, I'm almost completely colour neutral now,after 5 months of on and off practice, I'm happy to say that it's it's worth the practice! I still have to practice to get rid of the small lookahead errors I make though :p
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NR holder here lol
@@rudranshbisht2985 ikr!
Hey guys, I have always been color neutral because when I first learned I was not taught to always start in one color. That means I never had to worry about it at all and I never gained any bad habits that were hard to break. So when you teach new people to solve a cube, do them a favor and tell them to start on whichever center has most edges attached and never mention that they should look at color. It does not make it any harder and when they get fast they will appreciate it
I too was colour neutral. But I became white focused when I learned advanced cross. That's was the problem with me l. Had to learn the pattern. Couldn't learn it for every colour
I did this but my friend only solve the cube in the white side🤦🤦
thank you
i will start teaching people that now
It _does_ make it a lot harder. It' essentially what Jperm describes from 1:12 - 1:26.
It’s also really important on 2x2, Skewb, and Pyraminx.
john tan How would that even work? You don’t even start with one color on Squan. You don’t even have to try at all to be color neutral on Squan.
Вячеслав Соколов Yes, 2x2x2 is also really important for Color neutrality.
I Z no
@E Therefore is only 1 kind of pattern
I learned it without even triyng on these puzzles so its really easy and important
Which is more important than the other?
1: to be CN
2: to memorize 1st F2L pair
f2l pair
@@JPerm what about both?
Christian Angelo Mojica god
What does it mean to memorize first f2l pair?
@@Galaxcito it mean's that you know what to do after cross, it's base on your look ahead
This video was amazing. I watched it 2 years ago and became color neutral-ish in maybe 3 months. Now, I am confident in saying that I consider myself fully color neutral. 2 extra comments:
1. Color neutrality is good even though you save only 1 move on average because average isn't everything. My last 2 PBs (9.04 and 9.23) were both on colors other than white. I'm glad I became color neutral just because of that.
2. I think the second approach you recommended (learn 1 extra color at a time, 1:25) was better for me. I tend to get distracted (like rn) and have a hard time working on one thing for a long time. I tried but wasn't able to continue solving on every color because the improvement (per color) was just too slow. I think I would've given up if I didn't switch to approach 2.
Both great points! Especially about the learning approach. Different people are motivated differently
Speedcubers do so much
They become colour neutral to solve cross ASAP
They increase their F2L lookahead to 7 tps
Memorize tons of algs for LL.
Memorising algs is easy ngl.
@@sylonisharma4660 you probably still using 2 look PLL lol
I'm sub 30 and I'm color neutral
Yay
Now what's your sub
Vladimir Putout he has videos of 15 ao12s
Are u gabby Jay? If u didn't get it look it up
I am sub 15 and I don't dare to say that I'm color white.
I am sub 25 and I am not even color neutral
As a tip i put white cross away for some days and start for another color( e.g. Red). The main thing is in F2L bcoz i can make a cross at inspection and oll pll will only take some days. But try to do f2l only for specific color.
Means solve the cross and don't see cube and start time and solve the f2l.
I think this is the best way.☺☺☺
Welp, I’m glad I started off color neutral because this seems like a lot of work just to learn.
Same here, learning it early on won’t hinder you and will be beneficial in the long run.
@@oxntiger wow
Yes
I highly recommend doing the 2nd option. I have tried 3 times with option 1 but failed each time since I saw no improvement. I am now doing the 2nd option, and I am so motivated since I can see improvement.
Thanks for the advice/tips bro, super helpful. I've been meaning to switch to color neutrality for about a year and a half now, but never really stuck with it. Now that I've hit a little bit of a plateau in 3x3, I think I'm really going to try now. Your videos are so helpful and inspirational, I'm glad you continue to make them.
okay buddy
Yay new video!..some more neutral color..i really really need tips for neutral color.
thank you soo much..and a nice picture
I was only able to solve it from yellow and white sides without confusion but this is helpful.
I've been waiting for a video on colour neutrality. It's definitely something I've been considering as I've gotten faster. Thanks so much!
Was waiting my whole life for this video (by whole life i mean ever since i found your channel lol).
Thanks for the tips! xx.
Wanted that Color neutral tutorial ..THANKS TO YOU BRO😎😎😎😎😎
Have to say the tips in here really helped. Been training color neutrality for a week and i'm all ready within 5 seconds of my average on all colors.
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Great video Dylan. Thank you. That definitely will help me to be color neutral
Always a great video. Keep it up!
J Perm your video is always best. Thanks for making this video . This will help me .
*player has unlocked new move... Color neutral*
Thank you for introducing me to Color Neutral as a concept. I recently learned how to solve the cube by the basic method to reach a life time goal of mine. I'm not really interested in increasing my speed because fast was not my goal. I wasn't sure where to go next until this video. I think I will become color neutral before white side first becomes too ingrained.
I just solved it blue side first. It was a little slower than starting with white, but not as much as I thought it would be
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i just tryed you tips ND IMPRVED INSTANLY THX BRO
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Finally became Color neutral! Yay!!! Thanks for your inspiration. It helped me 😏👍
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Thanks I’ll be sure to keep this in mind
I watched this video 9 months ago, and back then I could only do the cross on white and yellow. After everything closed down I just said f*** it let's try and become color neutral. Thanks to this video I managed to do it before this terrible year ended. Happy holidays everyone!
Thanks Jperm due to your tips I became full CN in a month Awesome vid btw.
i am very glad that i have been colour neutral from day one, because, the learning for colour neutrality is layered on top of the entirety of learning the cube so it doesn't seem slow
Congratulations on 1.4 million subs
Nice video!
600k soon 👍🏾👍🏾
Good Explanation 👏
Your comment about not knowing the color orientation when solving the cross makes me feel so much better. lol. I know 2-look, but I’m barely learning to solve cross on bottom and it’s been pretty painful. >.
I'm already DCN, and after watching this video, I am more motivated to learn CN! Btw, I was color neutral when I was using beginners, but after I changed to CFOP, I solved only on white and then it carried over to yellow cross bc of the same side colors. I also have tried to be CN after CFOP, but I gave up. (When I averaged 30s to 20s). As of now, I have currently started learning CN today, and I average anywhere from low 20s to sub 20 with only DCN (white & yellow aka dcn), but I average 30s to 20s without DCN. (No yellow or white cross. Only B. O. R. G. crosses, aka blue, orange, red, and green.)
I used the 1st method of becoming CN from white (a little bit yellow) a little more than a year after i started cubing. Took me roughly 6 weeks to become full CN. However during the process i noticed i was having a little trouble starting on red/orange so simply practiced those colours more til i became comfortable with it. Now i mainly do red/orange but i am still CN and will go for an easy cross on any other colour
I'm color neutral now!!!Thanks J perm!!!💓
I would choose to use the layer by layer method at first (for the first two layers) when I am starting to solve the cross on a colour other than white, then I would use the standard OLL and PLL method for the last layer.
When you are learning how to become colour neutral, it is the F2L that you need to worry about the most, the secondary thing you need to worry about would be the cross (especially if you need to solve the cross without aligning it at first). You don't really have to worry too much about OLL and PLL when you solve those cases on a different colour, but you may want to worry about the last layer if you are using COLL or ZBLL/ZBLS.
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I saw this video like one month after I started cubing semi-seriously and it was really easy to change to CN. Now I’m not completely colour neutral like when I’m mindlessly solving but for the most part I am.
The tutorial that taught me how to solve the cube was using the green side. So i only knew how to solvw with that color until i began learning 2-look and all the tutorials were using the white side. So i was forced to adapt. Now i realize it was good that i learned using the green side since now I already color neutral with white,yellow, green, and blue
You could have just done the tutorials but use green. I watched a tutorial for redkb and he used red but all the other tutorials use white but it didnt really change much when learning cfop
9:28 Yau is for CFOP. There’s also Hoya for CFOP, Roux is Meyer, and ZZ is Z4.
dawidos007 I agRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anything you do is cool.
Thanks!
Best video!!!
A doubt when i should start to be colour neutral
if you want to learn it, learn it as soon as possible
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@@arunasaxena2660 yes
Nice logo!
I'm already color neutral but still watched! You should make a renaming OLLs video btw.
I just started yesterday and it really isn’t as hard as you think. I’m off to a great start but still a long way to go
The fact your motivation was that it would just be cool is insane. Idk how I would get motivation to become color neutral
Im kinda CN cuz I always start other colors for fun, but its slow tho.
I'm learning CFOP for now because Im using a mix of algorithms mostly beginner's method for months now so I think I'm going to practise CN after that.
I've been color neutral ever since I started with the begginers method. I think the worst part of it is that, sometimes, you can't decide which cross is the "less worst" and that takes you A LOT of inspection time. This doesn't happen that often, though.
I am actually kind of used to solve cross on every side because when I first started cubing, I would do the color which had the most edges oriented but as I learned cfop, I started doing the cross on only white. So I think it will be easier for me to become color neutral from now on. And I am already color neutral on 2x2. (when I started 2x2 I didn't even know what color neutral was and I was already doing the first layer on the color which had the most corners oriented. SO BASICALLY I AM COLOR NEUTRAL ON CORNERS BUT NOT ON EDGES. I KNOW IT IS WEIRD BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.)
I'm an extremely un-colour neutral red-cross solver, and I use Yau all the way up to 8x8, so the only time I use CN is 2x2 scrambles favouring Ortega, and even then the only time I touch 2x2 is 2-7 relay.
Thx sm since I was only good at dual CN
That’s so useful
That was what i needed
Superb
I'm curious, do you have any thoughts on color neutral for 4x4? I did it myself when becoming more serious about 4x4, and I actually would recommend it for a few different reasons. If you wanted to you could even do so as a video experiment to track the benefits of it and see if it seems worthwhile in general.
And I'll say more about my experience and thoughts if it's interesting, I just don't want to make a giant paragraph right now lol.
I think it's not a big deal, I'm able to be somewhat cn on 4x4 but f2c just always seems to be easy anyway. messing up the color scheme is a bit risky for me but obviously if I practiced it I think it would be good.
i am collor neutral solving a 2x2 cube its easy,but when solving a 3x3 its kinda tricky getting used to it but dont worryy i can hang on it
I'm gonna practice CN, and what happens with the logo of the channel? Looks pretty good Haha, greetings from Costa Rica!
I became color neutral as a beginner, I used the first method, where I just did any color from the start. Because I transitioned as a beginner the transition was pretty easy.
thanks for the tips . now i am colour neutral because of you
8:27
That what’s happening with me all the time, 🤦🏻♀️
thanks for doing my suggestion!!
I became color neutral when I used to average around 15 seconds. Even I did a color at a time. Fixed around 3-6 days for 1 color and then the opposite color. Took me a month to learn and around 2 to get better at it:) Hope that ya' ll who want to be CN become one soon
i never needed a tutorial to be color neutral
Lol I became color neutral right after I half learned f2l and 4 look last layer (I started trying color neutrality after I learned beginner’s method). You just have to have a screw-it attitude and mess around with the cube until it works. I think learning so early on (a month after I decided I wanted to cube) really works. You don’t get that much slower at my level at that time and when inspecting, I just look at the colors of the edges relative to the ones I already have. I don’t memorize the patterns of the colors and for f2l, I find the pair’s slot relative to the sides I can see. I mean idk if that’s color neutrality but I’m not faster on any particular side and I usually solve on any side with some edges solved. This might not make any sense but just remember what colors are opposite and look at the centers and just remember the relative spots of the colors for each solve. Not memorizing, just be logical and PAY ATTENTion to colors. You’d be surprised how much is subconscious. I still can’t inspect my first pair (that is just me no matter what the side) but f2l isn’t as bad as some of you say it is? Perhaps it’s because I got so used to it in the beginning. Either way, for f2l, corner pieces are what you should focus on.
About two months ago I got my first cube and now I have about one minute and half average and from the beginning I’m trying to become color neutral which to me seems as the most logical way :)
Thanks
9:48 you really cannot underestimate how big of a motivator this is :D
Hello! I was wondering if you could do a video about tutorial on big cubes like 7×7-9×9?
8:30 This happens to me a lot, thanks for the tips
Hi Jperm! love your videos :). I’m looking for advice. I avg around 13 sec, and I do white and yellow cross. I know I can improve on cross-f2l transition, better LL algs, more efficient f2l solutions, my lookahead could be a lot better, that kind of stuff. I definitely feel like I would improve more if I worked on that stuff instead of becoming CN. but, as you said in the video, it will become harder to get CN as you get better. So Im not sure I’ll ever do it if I dont do it now. On the other hand, I know it’s not necessary to be CN to get fast. So... should i put in the work to become color neutral? thanks!
Yeah I have been doing white and yellow crosses for a long time and this past week I've been trying to do neutral colors when I get a good cross
I was just thinking how I have been doing white and yellow for a while and then saw my old comment
I actually go with the first one.
I was full cn once and lost the doigté after not using the cube for a long time, I was even full cn petrus and the same thing: happened, lost most of the doigté. I thought of coming with two concepts in cubing: first one is solving the rest of the cube within f2l last pair, I made a few algs for that up until now I have 2 of them
R U' R' U' R U R' and the second one is R U R' U R U R'. The second concet consists of making 3 blocks or f2l-1 within 12-16 moves HTM and to exaggerate 8 moves.
And if you allow me, I came with the idea of making an advanced beginner LBL method wich would help increase look ahead.
Sorry if you see some mistakes, English is not my language.
Wow, I became color neutral pretty fast. I just decided to do it one day, and then it took me around a week of hard cubing (probably +2h every day). My only problem is that it sometimes takes me way too long to choose which color to use.
Love your videos, I just wanted to ask you how to make the shift from beginner's to cfop (With all the new algorithms)?
start with 2-look OLL, 2-look PLL, and intuitive f2l (16 algs total) I have a beginner playlist on my channel!
@@JPerm Thanks, And can I do advanced pll if I am already efficient with 2-Look?
@@ishaanvatus3536 tep
yup
@@JPerm hey question I'm sub 25 with really bad look ahead what should I do first advanced f2l or look ahead
Guys I found it really helpful to practice color neutral on a 2x2
Im color neutral in the 2x2 but in 3x3 when I try other color cross I add 5- 15 secs to my solve
Based on all these beginner comments talking abt not learning to start on one specific color, we just gotta teach this to anyone new learning a cube and if they do get faster, they benefit from an ez transition to color neutrality
I’m a natural opposite color neutral person, I’m capable of learning just 1 color and it can translated to the opposite color. I’m currently working on green and red only so blue and orange isn’t a big deal for me.
White is the color I first started when I learn how to solve btw, yellow had the same color combination so I do not have any difficulties adapting to it.
I just do the first one. Just brute force it and learn as I go. It works, but I'm not into speed solving yet, so I doesn't matter to me all the way yet.
Nice video jperm can i req a video next time its about having a ligher turning style thanks
This just blew my mind; I average 50 seconds and have been stuck there for 3 year. I usually start with any random color. I didn't realize that I was attempting to be "color neutral." I thought everyone just solved whatever color was best. What this taught me is that I'm actually NOT color neutral: I'm just equally slow on all the colors! I think now to improve, if I understand correctly, I need to focus on one color and get way better.
No, dont do that. You should just go with the begginer method and learn good habits and practice
Sit make one video on how to solve cube with crop oll, pll short cut
Started being color neutral after a few days. Had a cube for three weeks or so and can solve any colour in about a minute. I learned basic F2L and will try to learn basic OLL and PLL once I mastered the simple F2L cases I learned [like (l U) (r U' r' U') l']
so ok, I have been trying to like pair up the 2 pieces when taking it out from the bottom 2 layers to the top during f2l for the 3 move inserts, which now that I think about it means that I am actually focusing on the current pieces and I end up rotating to insert the pair anyways, so should I be kind of letting that go so that I can focus on the next pairs and on edge orientation which may save my time which I had lost on the extra moves.??
also are wide d moves bad? as it messes up the orientation.
p.s any like small tips that I may have not been focusing on during f2l?
Cool Dylan.
I'm just starting to learn cfop but became color neutral just after i learned the whole beginner method
I'm averaging around 18 sec and I'm color neutral (not fully neutral, I'm still slightly faster on white and wellow but that won't be the case soon) and I gotta say... I felt exactly the same as you when I started practicing color neutrality (for me, the first method of just becoming color neutral worked better) just because I thought it'd be cool, 'cause at that moment I wasn't even full PLL so there were many otrher ways to improve haha... I felt so identified with you lol
Yo wellow cross sickkk